list building or blogging which one is good business model

Banned 11 years ago

In theory, you'll do better from listbuilding, but you have to learn how to do it, first, in order to benefit from it.

Blogging is not in itself a monetized activity. It's a monetizable one, and the better ways of making it monetizable involve listbuilding.

In the last few days, you've started off threads announcing your intention to become a ClickBank vendor, an Amazon affiliate, and to go in some unspecified way into the Tinnitus niche, simply because of its high turnover.

And now it seems like "listbuilding or blogging" is today's big decision? The two aren't mutually exclusive at all. Building a list is better with some kind of website to produce the credibility needed to get people to opt in and subscribe to it. Blogging is better monetized by listbuilding.

Rather than continually imposing these apparently arbitrary and unproductive questions on yourself (and on others), I think it would help you much more to decide on what kind of business model you want to adopt, and start learning about it. Many people find that affiliate marketing suits them (rather than, say, being a service provider). Anything from which you're going to derive income, and try to build a business, depends on what skills you have. It's about "learning and understanding", to start off, not just "taking random action and hoping something good will come from it".

I can't add much more, at the moment, than what I told you in this thread.

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Pdomain

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

In theory, you'll do better from listbuilding, but you have to learn how to do it, first, in order to benefit from it.

Blogging is not in itself a monetized activity. It's a monetizable one, and the better ways of making it monetizable involve listbuilding.

In the last few days, you've started off threads announcing your intention to become a ClickBank vendor, an Amazon affiliate, and to go in some unspecified way into the Tinnitus niche, simply because of its high turnover.

And now it seems like "listbuilding or blogging" is today's big decision? The two aren't mutually exclusive at all. Building a list is better with some kind of website to produce the credibility needed to get people to opt in and subscribe to it. Blogging is better monetized by listbuilding.

Rather than continually imposing these apparently arbitrary and unproductive questions on yourself (and on others), I think it would help you much more to decide on what kind of business model you want to adopt, and start learning about it. Many people find that affiliate marketing suits them (rather than, say, being a service provider). Anything from which you're going to derive income, and try to build a business, depends on what skills you have. It's about "learning and understanding", to start off, not just "taking random action and hoping something good will come from it".

I can't add much more, at the moment, than what I told you in this thread.

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Alexa Smith,

I have been a fan of yours and your talent for years reading your long replies here at Warrior forum.

I'm sorry if this is a little irrelevant question, but it is not too irrelevant as our main goal is to learn internet marketing here.

And I thought this is the best way to personally ask you something that can be beneficial to others.

My questions are:

What are the ways of promoting CB products if I am not too confident to my writing skills?

Can I promote ClickBank products via blog comment (direct ClickBank affiliate URL(s) forwarded to a short relevant domain or sub-domain name)?

Please let me know.

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Alexa Smith Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Pdomain

What are the ways of promoting CB products if I am not too confident to my writing skills?

I'm a writer, so others can perhaps answer this question better than I can!

The only successful ways I know of promoting ClickBank products involve an autoresponder and an email series. There are loads and loads of different ways of getting targeted, potential subscriber traffic and opting people in, of course, but in order to make any sales worth talking about (and especially to keep your traffic returning to the sales page, because almost nobody buys at their first visit, and especially to be able to make repeated sales of different products to the same captive audience - which is where most of the long-term money is, in affiliate marketing - you're going to need some kind of email series.

So I guess if you're not confident enough of your writing skills, the answer to that part is to "learn to write the emails yourself, and let somebody proof-read/edit them for you", which doesn't need to be a very expensive service at all, to outsource?

I must tell you, in all honesty, without an email series and an autoresponder, I don't find it at all easy to imagine that "ClickBank-type products" would be the right business model for you. (I know there'll be people here who don't quite agree with that, and all I can say is that I don't quite agree with them).

You've probably seen it, but ... http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7110523

Originally Posted by Pdomain

Can I promote ClickBank products via blog comment (direct ClickBank affiliate URL(s) forwarded to a short relevant domain or sub-domain name)?

I would never dream of putting an affiliate-link (or something that resolves to an affiliate-link) on someone else's blog, at all, for two main reasons: (a) I very much doubt whether it's possible to make a sale that way (apart from maybe a very occasional, semi-random one), and (b) I'd feel like I was "trespassing": I obviously wouldn't want anyone else's affiliate-links on my blog, so why would they want mine, on theirs??

Apologies for such unhelpful responses, after your kind comment above!

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Online Traffic Victory

11 years ago

If I had to choose between blogging and building a list I would choose building a list

However I would do both as a blog is a great way to bring traffic to your website but without a method for capturing your website traffic details then it's very likely that your website visitors will eventually leave your blog and never return but by building a list you could bring your visitors back to your website.

You could try creating a blog and having a small opt in section on the right panel of the blog offering a free product if they opt in to your newsletter that way you can create and post a blog and build a list at the same time.

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Benung

11 years ago

You can go in building a list because its very productive and very stable platform away from Google's Algorithm. This is much safer for you and you'll notice every gurus are building their list. Most successful Internet Marketers have their own list as per se...

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DWaters

11 years ago

You could try creating a blog and having a small opt in section on the right panel of the blog offering a free product if they opt in to your newsletter that way you can do the blog and build a list at the same time.

Yes - definately do the above. If you have a blog you want to use it to help build your list.
More importantly on an overall note I would try to learn from Alexa's advice above -

Rather than continually imposing these apparently arbitrary and unproductive questions on yourself (and on others), I think it would help you much more to decide on what kind of business model you want to adopt, and start learning about it.

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CyndiHester 11 years ago

If I had to start all over again, the only thing I would consider first is "building my list". There is nothing else like it when you have people who trust and listen to you, and in one click you can offer then something and they buy because "you have built a relationship with them." So don't just think it is all about building a list, because it also is about the relationship you have with them!

Hope that helps,

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Joseph Villanueva

11 years ago

I believe that creating your blog is one of the most important aspect of your brand creation.

You can build your list without a blog successfully as well but a blog is and can be the portal to you past, present and future mediums and valuable contents.

It is also has a long term impact for your business itself because of the serps (search engine) will rank you due to how much "juice" your site is becoming.

I say build your list and leverage the power of your blog to continue building relationship and value to your leads.

Most successful businesses and entrepreneurs have a blog to keep updating their leads and customers for new exciting contents.

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walexy007

11 years ago

Thanks to everyone am very greatful,the only problem am having is that I don't know how to create a blog post

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Robinsh123

11 years ago

List building can give you instant returns while blogging may take some time to give better returns so I would suggest do both the works simultaneously and at last you will see a good growth in both the sources of income.

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carcin0genic

11 years ago

Both.

You need a list to sell to and a blog to have all your relationship building, training, and business centered in one place.

Generating leads is ultimately what translates into money so building your list should be a priority while your blog is something you build up over time to last the life of your business

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celente

11 years ago

we do both, and you should do both. Blogging for SEO, and list building for well.....list building.

If you are making money online and not list building, you are juts waisting your time.

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Mcfoxr

11 years ago

I have read alot of times where a lot bloggers regret not building their list on time and I quite agree with them. I also made that mistake too.

It is better to build the list because the usefulness of the list cannot be over emphasized.

I building the list you can either include an optin form on site. In this way you are integrating blogging with list building. This is good but the snag here is that you will get little optins due to the fact that the visitors may tend to get distracted with other stuffs crying for attention on the blog.

Whereas on the other hand, you may set up a squeeze page that is solely set up to collect leads and the rate of optins here is usually higher especially if the proper testing has been done.

Hope this helps

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npoint

11 years ago

Own list is the best source of income (:
But gathering them thru own blog is a good idea.

Originally Posted by walexy007

I will like to start either building email list or blogging,I need advice about which model to choose cos I don't want to do the two at the same time

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troy23

11 years ago

Both business models have worked for me over the years.
The blog helps to build the trust and shows you know your subject.

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JensSteyaert

11 years ago

You should definately do both, since you can build a list while you blog very easily.

Just add an opt in form on your blog, maybe a popup if that's something you don't mind and you're building a list. Then write a weekly newsletter to your subscribers about new blog posts = easy traffic.

Plus as your list grows you can monetize it in various ways.

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Cris Cato

11 years ago

I think that depends on the type of marketer you want to be. If you're passionate about something and can write about it all the time, then blogging might be a good option for you since it requires fresh and updated content all the time. Listbuilding on the other hand, does not require much writing other than maybe email follow ups, but it's more marketing and finding the right products to promote.

You can start blogging for free and build up from there which is another thing to consider. Listbuilding can be started with no money but paid traffic is the way to build a faster and even more responsive list.

Or you can kill two birds with one stone by starting a blog and placing an opt in form in it. That way, you can blog about what you like and also get people's email so you can follow up with them.

It's really up to you. I think both are a good way to start in the IM niche. Good luck!

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ceenote100

11 years ago

Why not do both? Use your blog to build your list. And that's just one of many ways to build it.

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11 years ago

Why not do both.

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cyberzolo

11 years ago

How bout BOTH. Build a list through blogging. The quality of the list will probably be much higher.

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tristatemedia

11 years ago

list building, definitely. learn how to work sales funnels and you will never go back to anything else.

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M3C

11 years ago

They are not mutually exclusive.....

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Kingshouse

11 years ago

Originally Posted by walexy007

I will like to start either building email list or blogging,I need advice about which model to choose cos I don't want to do the two at the same time

I think the two should go hand in hand however the most important in my point of view should be list building.

Adding lots of content to your blog is great but allowing them to just walk away without building a list is crazy.

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IM Mozie

11 years ago

Why would you want to choose?

Use your blog (WordPress) to setup some good squeeze pages
Write some good SEO posts with highly targeted keywords and get your blog ranking for a few traffic keywords.

Your blog can land up being your best source of traffic for your list building efforts.

Everyone is right, List Building comes first since it's turning your traffic into leads/subscribers

Blogging is a source for your traffic but it also allows your to easily host all your landing, sales and squeeze pages so I highly recommend it too.

By the way, when I say blogging, I mean a self hosted version of WordPress, so any web 2.0 stuffs. You even get good free lead capture plugins for your WordPress blog to capture leads and build your list like footer bars, popups etc.

My final advice:
Get a autoresponder Aweber or Mailchimp (paid or free)
Get a self hosted version of WordPress and a nice relevant domain name.
Buy a high quality PLR product in your niche, rebrand it with your domain name, your name and some nice graphics (use fiverr.com to get it cheap), make sure you buy high quality PLR that comes with a well written salespage and a good squeeze page. You will be using it as a free gift to give to your visitors in exchange for their email address.
Setup everything (squeeze pages, download pages) on your WordPress blog.
Start blogging on related topics to the niche you're targeting and related to your product on offer
Setup some autoresponder messages on your email provider to help you build a relationsip with your list and include an offer or two in those (not too many though)

This is a basic "List Building" model, well it's what I and many others use. Hope it helps.

Mozie

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Anonymous Affiliate

11 years ago

Skip blogging, its highly inefficient. List building yields a much higher ROI.

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Carter Boatright

11 years ago

You can use a blog as a traffic source to get people on to your list and hopefully into your sales funnel. Getting traffic to your blog is the tough part.

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gcbmark20

11 years ago

Originally Posted by walexy007

I will like to start either building email list or blogging,I need advice about which model to choose cos I don't want to do the two at the same time

Hi,

I personally do both.

What I do is direct my subscribers to my BLOG anytime I have something
JUICY to share with them.

1. Tips.

2. Case Study Results.

3. Traffic.

4. List Building techniques.

This allows me grow my following via my blog and grow my lists too.

And of course build solid relationships with my lists.

So you could do both and use the exact same tactic I've just shared with you.

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tyronne78

11 years ago

Blogging and building a list of subscribers (listbuilding) is the primary way I make money online. It's a great online business model (Blogging + Listbuilding) but it isn't the only way to make money online.

In one way or another you're going to have to create content if you want to make money online. Even if you decide to do paid marketing you're still going to need content to convert your leads into customers. Article marketing is another option if content marketing is your thing. Article marketing is another great way to build a list.

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