30$ per day, depressed and lost..

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Earlier I posted a thread asking how to make 15-30$ per day from providing services, I got a few good replies and started my journey.

-I've set up accounts on Odesk, elance and freelancer.
-then completed my profiles there and added projects to my portfolio.

then it all started..down biding on project seems impossible, there's already tons of people down biding..
Then I started researching the market needs and thats where i got lost and depressed.

I don't know what to do, or where to start..
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  • Profile picture of the author alvinhy
    Another platform I used to work on is PeoplePerHour.
    Less down bidders.

    Also I do not recommend you to down bid but to actually bid based on your skills and how well you are at it.

    I used to do graphics design and I see a lot of people doing logos for $20 $30.
    I do logos for $200+ The reason is because I am qualified and know what it takes to make a great logo.

    So with your skills, if you are good at something, build a portfolio of it and base your price on your skills not on what other people bid on.

    I have a few clients told me that they refuse to choose low bidding freelancers because a low price means = shit quality.
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    • Profile picture of the author mo2menelzeiny
      Originally Posted by alvinhy View Post

      The reason is because I am qualified and know what it takes to make a great logo.
      Maybe that is my problem, I have so many skills yet I don't feel like I'm qualified at any of them..
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  • Profile picture of the author Syssolution
    I also started the way you started. I am active on Elance. I got my first project on 39th day. Keep bidding and be positive.
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    • Profile picture of the author mo2menelzeiny
      Originally Posted by Syssolution View Post

      I also started the way you started. I am active on Elance. I got my first project on 39th day. Keep bidding and be positive.
      May the odds be in our favour
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  • Profile picture of the author Gh0zt
    This is a tricky one, because I have zero exp in advanced coding - but I'd of thought such a skill would be able to land you a high-paying job in a brick and mortar company somewhere?

    But failing that - and if you freelancer isn't pulling through for you - and you are "fair" on photoshop, perhaps graphic design is a good way to go for some nice income...

    If you can do the work - look at what others are selling, and how they are selling it - then do better, or match them atleast.

    Design work sells like hotcakes on this forum - there is lot's of work there - trust me
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    • Profile picture of the author mo2menelzeiny
      Originally Posted by Gh0zt View Post

      This is a tricky one, because I have zero exp in advanced coding - but I'd of thought such a skill would be able to land you a high-paying job in a brick and mortar company somewhere?

      But failing that - and if you freelancer isn't pulling through for you - and you are "fair" on photoshop, perhaps graphic design is a good way to go for some nice income...

      If you can do the work - look at what others are selling, and how they are selling it - then do better, or match them atleast.

      Design work sells like hotcakes on this forum - there is lot's of work there - trust me
      I was thinking about learning Wordpress programming and start building tools and themes, but is it worth it?
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris30K
    Hey! Don't get so down, making money on the internet requires patience, just buckle in and get ready for the ride! Some of the above advice is excellent; sometimes you have to FAIL to appreciate SUCCESS. The ones who make it through are the ones who never get too high or too low
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    • Profile picture of the author mo2menelzeiny
      Originally Posted by Chris30K View Post

      Hey! Don't get so down, making money on the internet requires patience, just buckle in and get ready for the ride! Some of the above advice is excellent; sometimes you have to FAIL to appreciate SUCCESS. The ones who make it through are the ones who never get too high or too low
      Thank you Chris
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  • Yes, do not just lower down your prices to look good. Believe it or not, the good people who choose you and are willing to pay you with your price are those who will overlook price and want to hire you, so don't be afraid to give your exact price.

    I've seen it happen before. The publisher who hires the cheapest will expect perfect work, and they'll constantly tell you, "I'm paying big money and I chose you out of everybody else. You better be good"
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  • Profile picture of the author Raydal
    It takes to build an online income in any area and this get
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    you could make money accidentally. Now you have to be
    intentional and patient. When you are competing on a job
    board you have to know what you are worth and stick with
    that price. There is nothing worst than working for a fee that
    you are not happy about.

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    • Profile picture of the author alasdairsim
      Originally Posted by mo2menelzeiny View Post

      Earlier I posted a thread asking how to make 15-30$ per day from providing services, I got a few good replies and started my journey.

      -I've set up accounts on Odesk, elance and freelancer.
      -then completed my profiles there and added projects to my portfolio.

      then it all started..down biding on project seems impossible, there's already tons of people down biding..
      Then I started researching the market needs and thats where i got lost and depressed.

      I don't know what to do, or where to start..
      I know the feeling.

      I'm coming from a slightly different perspective as I am a content writer - god knows there are thousands out there willing to write 500 words for $1 and I imagine the coding sector is similar. You need to keep at it though.

      I'll admit for the first few months I was taking on jobs that I would never dream of doing now. Mainly in order to get my portfolio developed - I had been ghostwriting online since 2009 with a few breaks here and there and it was like starting all over again with new clients. People who want good quality work will normally pay for it and the ones that don't sure as well will whenever they realise that underpaying rarely works out.

      Originally Posted by alvinhy View Post

      Another platform I used to work on is PeoplePerHour.
      Less down bidders.
      Great suggestion here. My income really rose when I started using PPH. Now, you will come across some 'nonsense jobs'. These are the low paying ones but you will more than likely find serious/good paying buyers there.

      At the end of the day it comes down to perseverance.

      You might get one client and then find that they have a ton of repeat work for you. As a personal example I went between numerous clients for the first couple of month then settled on 2 or 3 that provided steady and decently paid work.

      Keep at it and you should reap the rewards.
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  • Profile picture of the author alaynaaleah
    Earning $30 is possible by freelancing. but it is not important to get your first job, because the client does not know about your work experience. after getting a feedback, the client will see your last work review. so do not upset. start bidding, you will get job. there are billion of freelancer as you, who are working as freelancer. there are million of clients also. Carry on.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnnyPlan
      Originally Posted by alaynaaleah View Post

      Earning $30 is possible by freelancing. but it is not important to get your first job, because the client does not know about your work experience. after getting a feedback, the client will see your last work review. so do not upset. start bidding, you will get job. there are billion of freelancer as you, who are working as freelancer. there are million of clients also. Carry on.
      Looking at this situation from the point of view of the potential buyer is always a good idea. As you say, that person doesn't know if the freelancer is qualified to do any work required. Being able to showcase actual work samples or link to previous work is a good idea as it shows the client what you are capable of doing. Once you get a few paying clients, you can showcase their testimonials as proof of your good work.
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  • Profile picture of the author SEO Power
    Competition is a healthy aspect of anything profitable. If you become afraid of the competition, you might find it difficult to achieve your goals or become successful. Once you get past winning and completing the first few projects, winning bids will become relatively easier.
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    • Profile picture of the author JessUBotNinja
      Your last post was hardly more than a week ago. Be patient and persistent. Rome was not built in a day and neither are internet businesses. Try to not get discouraged; have faith in yourself and your abilities and simply keep trying. 9 times out of 10 people give up too soon, never reaching their goals because the journey was too long, tough, or they just did not get what they wanted or expected. Making money in general is not an easy thing, internet marketing is no different in that regard.

      Keep your head up and keep you goal in the front of you mind. Best of luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author Barry Unruh
    I'm curious. How many tests have you taken on the sites to showcase you have the basic knowledge and skills? If the answer is 0, it is time to get busy.

    When you bid on a project, do you take the time to write an excellent proposal or cover letter? Do you offer to show them samples of your work?

    Do not limit yourself to looking on regular freelancing sites. Watch Craigslist Gigs, look on the Warrior Forum, post gigs on Fiverr. Get yourself out there.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by mo2menelzeiny View Post

      Maybe that is my problem, I have so many skills yet I don't feel like I'm qualified at any of them..
      Dan Kennedy tells a story about when he first got started. His mentor gave him an assignment to figure out how much his work was worth and then double it. Kennedy was then assigned to look in a mirror and say "my daily rate is ..." until he could do it without flinching or laughing. He seems to have done okay for himself...

      Originally Posted by JohnnyPlan View Post

      Looking at this situation from the point of view of the potential buyer is always a good idea. As you say, that person doesn't know if the freelancer is qualified to do any work required. Being able to showcase actual work samples or link to previous work is a good idea as it shows the client what you are capable of doing. Once you get a few paying clients, you can showcase their testimonials as proof of your good work.
      Normally, I'm not in favor of doing work for free to build a portfolio, but there is one exception. That's for someone just starting out, and the free work should be for a charity or other non-profit you can support with free work in return for a reference/referrals/testimonials.

      A side benefit of doing this is the caliber of the people who also do charity or pro bono work. You can meet and rub shoulders with the movers and shakers in your city on common ground.
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  • Profile picture of the author mo2menelzeiny
    Thank you guys for the great boost, I'll take your words in consideration and be more confident. I'm sure I'll make it
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