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Can anyone recommend a decent course or WSO on getting into freelance writing?

I can write - but I'm not sure where the best place to go to get customers. (yes I'm a newbie!)


Ideas welcomed!
#freelance #writing
  • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
    Originally Posted by lonewolfmark1 View Post

    Can anyone recommend a decent course or WSO on getting into freelance writing?

    I can write - but I'm not sure where the best place to go to get customers. (yes I'm a newbie!)


    Ideas welcomed!
    Also, look at who is selling what while there, this might stimulate your ideas, and it won't cost you anything. The PROBLEM is, freelance writing covers so much territory, it is huge, and probably best served via niches.

    What type of writing do you want to do? This might be a good starting point for you.

    gjabiz
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  • Profile picture of the author NatesMarketing
    Read this guy's blog - every word of it. Leaving Work Behind
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  • Profile picture of the author trevord92
    Not WSOs specifically but 3 possible ideas:

    On sites like iWriter you select appropriate writing tasks and get paid once the buyer accepts. It's low paid at first but as you work your way up the levels it gets better.

    You could post in the Warriors for Hire section here - put up a few samples, offer a few review samples to people with a decent number of posts, offer an initial discounted rate, that kind of thing.

    Or offer gigs on Fiverr (competitive but maybe worth a try).
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by lonewolfmark1 View Post

    I can write - but I'm not sure where the best place to go to get customers. (yes I'm a newbie!)
    We all were, when we started. (And I first started as you're planning to, by writing articles for others, though I haven't done that at all ever since joining this forum).

    I feel a long post coming on, but I'll try to offer you what I think you "need to know".

    You won't find a better "content mill" site than Constant-Content. It's relatively easy for people who can write competently to earn $1,500+ per month there. But it takes time, because the best-paid work there is all "private commissions" and you're not eligible for them until you've sold some "general articles". Some people try it and give up much too early.

    In the long run, it's better to have your own, private, paying clients and to choose customers who will return for more (i.e. customers who know how to use the articles you write!). To get them, however you market your services, you'll need a small, professional, simple, clear, non-hypey, non-salesy website with at least two specimen articles on it, and at least two good testimonials from customers, and to state your prices and terms of service very openly.

    The big mistake to avoid is to "start cheap" imagining that you can increase the prices once you have some customers. This market doesn't work that way, and there are reasons for that. They're real and reliable and valid reasons and they'll apply to you just like they apply to everyone else.

    (If you have to write a couple of "cheapies" just to get your initial testimonials, then so be it, I suppose, but don't make a habit of it! ).

    Key concept (i): at the bottom end of the market, there are almost as many service-providers as customers, so that's the hardest way to earn anything.

    Key concept (ii): what attracts customers to buy the services of people who write articles for $5-$10 is the price: as soon as that increases, all the customers disappear (to become customers of one of the thousands of other people from all over the world offering the service at that price), and the service-provider effectively has to start all over again.

    Key concept (iii): the main reason you see providers of $5-$10 articles continually advertising and marketing is that their clients businesses' tend not to survive (mostly because they don't know how to use the product, rather than because the product itself is no good - though that can also sometimes be true), so they have to replace them all the time. The main reason you don't see providers of $100-$150 articles advertising at all is that their clients know how to use the product, profit from it and return regularly for more articles, with the effect that those writers tend to have all the work they want without needing to advertise at all. At lower prices, article-writers need continually to be marketing their own services. People who want their income to depend entirely on their own marketing skills should become marketers, not service providers.

    If you want some more information on the big, common mistakes involved in starting an article-writing business, these resources may prove valuable ...

    Warrior Forum resources:
    Writing Articles - I'm Done
    How much can you make writing articles?
    How do I make money writing articles???
    Would you still do freelance writing?
    Can anyone suggest good pay, high quality writing jobs?
    Content Writing - Still Viable?
    Are There Many Clients Who Pay $50/Article?
    The appropriate rate for written content is ?
    You must be a superstar professional writer BUT I can only pay you $2 per article - say WHAT?
    Any point in trying to find clients on Warrior Forum..?
    Is it hard to make 30K a year from writing?

    Other resources:
    Jennifer Mattern's blog
    Carol Tice's blog
    Free report on how to attract new freelance writing clients during a recession
    The Renegade Writer Blog
    The "Irreverent Freelancer" blog
    The Well-Fed Writer: Lucrative Commercial Freelance Writing - Land Lucrative Freelance Writing Jobs
    Words on the Page.

    I haven't, myself, clicked on all of these for a few months, so apologies in advance for any defunct links, above (which there easily could be, by now ).

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    • Profile picture of the author Raydal
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      The big mistake to avoid is to "start cheap" imagining that you can increase the prices once you have some customers. This market doesn't work that way, and there are reasons for that. They're real and reliable and valid reasons and they'll apply to you just like they apply to everyone else.

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      I love this one because it applies to almost any SERVICE you provide.
      The same for copywriting as well. If you start cheap and then hope
      to raise your prices with the SAME clients, think again! Once you
      set your fees with a client, that fee is branded in his mind and it's
      easier to get higher paying clients than to raise your fees with your
      present client.

      -Ray Edwards
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  • Profile picture of the author Elvis Michael
    Look into a WSO by John Coutts, The Well Paid Content Writer. It will give you a great way to start and point you in the right direction.

    http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...les-again.html
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnnyPlan
    Originally Posted by lonewolfmark1 View Post

    Can anyone recommend a decent course or WSO on getting into freelance writing?

    I can write - but I'm not sure where the best place to go to get customers. (yes I'm a newbie!)


    Ideas welcomed!
    Some people will say to start out on Fiverr or some site where you can 'learn' how to be a freelancer. But, you don't need to do that as you already know how to write. The real issue now is getting customers.

    Create your own freelance writer's blog where you contribute posts daily. This should not just be an advertisement for your services.

    Everything you publish on this blog is a sample of your writing style.

    Close each post with a mention of your writing services and link to that page.

    Include a link to your writer's blog on every signature line on every forum where you are very active. Be sure the signature line is enticing enough for others to want to click through.

    The key to making this idea work is to contribute the highest quality posts on every forum you post on. This is not about SEO or backlinking but generating click throughs from your target audience.

    Just one thing you can do to jumpstart your freelance writing career.
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  • Profile picture of the author positivenegative
    Originally Posted by lonewolfmark1 View Post

    Can anyone recommend a decent course or WSO on getting into freelance writing?

    I can write - but I'm not sure where the best place to go to get customers. (yes I'm a newbie!)

    Ideas welcomed!

    I see a lot of replies and a lot of advice, but let me ask you a question . . .

    Why do you even want to become a freelance writer?

    You say you can write, well if you're half as good as you believe you are then you should be writing for YOURSELF and not others. Do you even realise the potential and earnings you're ignoring by setting out on that well travelled road to disappointment that you're contemplating?

    Very few talented writers make it to a reasonable level of income in freelancing. Even fewer make it to the top. The market is absolutely saturated with every Tom, Dick and Harry (or Harriet) that thinks they can make it in the industry. As such prices have been driven down to rock bottom and the vast majority of buyers can select from a never ending ocean full of aspiring talent. If you're only a moderate writer then there are plenty better careers to earn a living at than writing.

    Real quality writers are snapped up instantly and retained for many years. Real quality writers are very seldom available for work on the open market. Real quality writers choose freelancing as a very last resort as the talent they possess enables them to earn a handsome living from creating and marketing their own products. Therein lies the problem though as many hugely talented writers just write . . . they have no idea of product creation and marketing, and it's their loss.

    The internet is a vast retail front for your skills and abilities. If you have them, use them wisely. There are hundreds of ways you could be profiting hugely right now - IF YOU TRULY ARE A GIFTED WRITER. Create your own products NOW.

    A previous post of yours states you have a 1,000+ NFL fan list. Your writing skills should have developed a way of monetising this to it's max. I could tell you ways to create a steady 5-figure+ monthly income from your writing abilities but it will only be realised if you actually DO HAVE that exceptional writing gift.
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  • Profile picture of the author strategymaker
    Originally Posted by lonewolfmark1 View Post

    Can anyone recommend a decent course or WSO on getting into freelance writing?

    I can write - but I'm not sure where the best place to go to get customers. (yes I'm a newbie!)


    Ideas welcomed!
    Hello lonewolfmark1,

    If you're just starting out, you can try Freelancer, Odesk, Elance or Fiverr. I hope you can find lots of writing jobs there and build your portfolio.

    Hope it helps!
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    • Profile picture of the author Egyfitness
      Writing quality articles is a daunting task. If you love to write why don't u open ur own blog and monetize traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lucian Lada
    I second Epic Passive Income's recommendation in post #7. John Coutts' WSO is very good, and he's a nice person, too. One caveat, though: the WSO is mostly aimed at SEO articles, which isn't stressed out on the sales page. However, he's not referring to your typical $5 SEO articles, of course, and also recommends a few free tools to help you find keywords.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Addams
    The information you need is pretty much freely available.

    As far as how to get work, I've actually helped quite a few writers.

    2 Great places:

    1. Webmaster Forums
    2. Local Businesses

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  • Profile picture of the author forsure12
    Same question here I'll read everything on this page
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  • Profile picture of the author writeaway
    Read copyblogger It's a great place to start if you're looking to learn how to write web content. Also, work on your speed and quality.

    Start with Fiverr to get a portfolio going. Don't listen to people that advise you to start at high rates. You're not going to get clients since at high rates since there are other MORE ESTABLISHED writers at those rates. Start small. Prove yourself. Move up. That's how the REAL WORLD works.
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  • Profile picture of the author owenlee
    One idea is that you can try to have your own website and promote it.

    Is like having your own writing business. Good luck
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  • Profile picture of the author writeaway
    Read copyblogger or other writing sites or search for old threads on WF. Get started on Fiverr and scale up from there.
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  • Profile picture of the author mialucy06
    Why you do not have a look on the freelancing market place. Today there are many freelancing market, you can get your expected client from there. If you have a good command on writing, there are many client is waiting for you. You need to check many freelancing market place. Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Milesgeek
    If you are looking for freelancing projects online or if you would like to create a freelancing project online, then freelancer.com is the best website for you.
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