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The Answer To $1 Trials on Clickbank

by Raiel Schwartz
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I am going to be launching my own membership site soon, and I wanted to include a $1 trial because I think it's fair for members to see what they get before they buy.

Since clickbank allows the LOWEST amount of $4.95 as a charge, is there someway that this idea can work as a "work-around"

I'm using amember maybe someone knows of a plugin or technique to implement what I am talking about.

User goes to order page -> Selects $1 trial follow by billing of $x/per month after 7 days


The $1 trial payment is handled by paypal -> user gets access to membership site

After 7 days an invoice for $47/month via Clickbank pops up - user has to pay using clickbank to continue using service.

Now I know this would take away force continuity (which may lower your retention rate) but would this idea work? Is there anyway to implement it (especially with forced continuity)

let me hear some ideas guys
#answer #clickbank #trials
  • Profile picture of the author rhelaine
    the goal is to have automatic rebilling...with that kind of system you will have massive dropout
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    • Profile picture of the author Raiel Schwartz
      Originally Posted by rhelaine View Post

      the goal is to have automatic rebilling...with that kind of system you will have massive dropout
      That's what I imagined.

      But maybe not? I doubt people keep their membership sites because they are "lazy" and don't want to cancel their credit cards - they probably actually find value in the product. I would imagine a dropout rate, but in reality, I wouldn't expect it to be over like 3-5% of sales you could have gotten.

      Maybe I would just set up 2 payment subscriptions 1 via clickbank 1 via paypal. Paypal handles the trial payment, clickbank handles the regular payment, only bad thing about this is that affiliates lose out if they use clickbank and customer buys using paypal.

      Do you think a $4.95 trial (probably would price it at $4.97 since that number looks better) on Clickbank would convert just as well as a $1 trial?

      Also, do you think it's smart just to have one payment option (for example Trial period to paid subscription) or should you offer 2 payment plans

      Example:
      1) Initial Charge of $17 then $47/month

      oppose to 2) Trial of $1 then $47/month

      I would put the initial charge of $17 because it gives benefit of the buyers of option 1 by letting them get their months worth for only $17 instead of $47 while buyer 2 will pay $47 7 days later
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  • Profile picture of the author rhelaine
    a lot of great fortunes were built on people lazyness never underestimate it.

    plus ipeople will have to buy the subsciption twice in a sence. having people open their wallet once is hard enough...but twice.....
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  • Profile picture of the author Raiel Schwartz
    So this raises a good question.

    Should I stay w/ clickbank and gain the advantage of affiliates or use paypal and gain the advantage of higher conversions?

    Last question, do you think a clickbank trial of $4.95 would work as good as $1 trial. Except i just remember with CB you can't give a trial for 7 days it would be for the whole month right?
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  • Profile picture of the author Lightlysalted
    I would just stick with a paypal subscription button. When a member signs up once it will continue to take out future amounts unless the member actively cancels the agreement.
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  • Profile picture of the author warrior2008
    Haha, so many people stepped up with great addvice I now have very little to share. LOL. OK, here's the deal. I have done recurred billing for over 8 year. That was 8 years if that was missed . Everyone here that gave advice prior to this point is correct. You will lose, lose, lose if they have to subscribe again. You need to do $1 to $2.99 trial. This is where it is at. Stay between $17 to $21.95 a month if you can. Yes I know it is hard to do and reward your affiliate for that little but if you do and you can get X amount to month 3, you will have a longer life with them from a year to 1.5 years. Trust me. If you have some mega monster service, program, or etc then yes you can bill them for a lot more.

    Here is what else I do. Shhhh... I set a $37 price on the site. Then aweber sends them a PDC (PayPal) link for a $1 (3)day trial. Then they get billed a one-time $37 price if they do not cancel. I took in aorund 35-40% that did the $1 for the $37 price 3 days later. Loads of sales you can get for your affiliates that otherwise you would miss. I can do $37 as it is a one-time, but start your beta smaller in price on recurred billing and test, test, test and then work the price up to see where you keep them on board at. I hope this helps.

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    • Profile picture of the author Raiel Schwartz
      Originally Posted by Paid Surveys View Post

      I would just stick with a paypal subscription button. When a member signs up once it will continue to take out future amounts unless the member actively cancels the agreement.
      I was going to use Paypal, my only pet-peeve is that I would have to pay affiliates out MANUALLY (Clickbank automates everything) and also through paypal I think I'd have a constant fear of paypal just blocking my account one day. I haven't had problems with them in a while, but sometimes when a nasty customer does a chargeback or requests a refund paypal likes to screw around with you and I wouldn't want to get stuck with that, thats why if I use CB it all goes through them so I don't have to worry about that

      Originally Posted by warrior2008 View Post

      Here is what else I do. Shhhh... I set a $37 price on the site. Then aweber sends them a PDC (PayPal) link for a $1 (3)day trial. Then they get billed a one-time $37 price if they do not cancel. I took in aorund 35-40% that did the $1 for the $37 price 3 days later. Loads of sales you can get for your affiliates that otherwise you would miss. I can do $37 as it is a one-time, but start your beta smaller in price on recurred billing and test, test, test and then work the price up to see where you keep them on board at. I hope this helps.
      I am kind of confused at what you are getting at. If you set a one time fee of $37.00 then where does the e-mail from aweber giving a $1 trial come in to? Is the $37 rebilled monthly? Is the affiliate getting paid only on the initial sale and not the rebill? I did not understand your post 100% but it sounds like you have some good advice so hopefully you will respond back.
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  • Profile picture of the author warrior2008
    Hi Craig.Michaels,

    No problem. First What happens is they go to the main site and that price is $37. X amount fill out a form that flys onto the page and is serviced by Aweber for the list (But use whatever), then they get their FREE report they asked for emailed to them and also a 3 day trial link for ONLY $1 but they are told it is $37 in three days and charged only once if they don't cancel.

    So once again the $37 is NOT MONTHLY, it is a one time and just a way to get them in for $1 if they did not do so yet, then it stilll gets X amount sold at $37 3 days later.

    Second Yes, with PayDotCom the affiliates make some change on the $1.00 sale and also 75%(on my site) on the $37. So they are happy since you are maximizing their earnings.

    I am a bit tired here today so please do let me know if that makes sense. If not... you're welcome to PM me, OK?
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    • Profile picture of the author Raiel Schwartz
      I think I understand what you are getting at, but basically that gives e-mail subscriber a one time payment of $38.00 (total) for a lifetime membership, while other visitors to your page will be paying $37.00/mo (or however much you decide to charge).

      I wouldn't want to undervalue my product by giving it away to e-mail subscribers, and I wouldn't want to make it unfair for monthly subscribers by having others in my membership site for dirt cheap.
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  • Profile picture of the author warrior2008
    Looks like you will have to go from here... My offers are always a specific price however, to those that are skeptic I like to give options... I am also very clear on my billing after the trial period of 3 days. Once again, always glad to help. The best part of advice is you can filter it and take the best of the best and taylor it to your needs...

    Note: Some people use an exit pop up window and offer their cust a lower price if they are leaving their site. It is always good to offer lower prices if at all attempts they cannot make the original product or service price purchase.

    Stay Golden,

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  • Profile picture of the author russellprisco
    I read this post a while ago and just happened to come across one of Jeff Alderson's sites: Viral Traffic Dominator and I thought of you.

    4.95 clickbank 7 day trial.

    I would also add that you can always start it off with paypal and then move it into clickbank at a later date.

    In fact, that could be a good reamp for your product. start it off at a lower price with paypal, and then let all your aff's know that you'll be putting it in cb and do a special promo or hold a contest/race.

    Also, you can then later tell your aff's that the commission has been bumbed up and have another contest/race when you move it into cb.

    ~Russell Prisco =)
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  • Profile picture of the author JasetheAce
    It is sooooo sneaky but if you feel happy riiping everyone of to make a quid then I would strongly agree that you should not have the members having to re register.
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  • Profile picture of the author Cerberus
    If you are using amember why wouldn't you activate the affiliate plugin and just create your own affiliate program. You wouldn't have access to all the CB affiliate but you could do JV's and handle it all through amember
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