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I'm new here and very much like all that's going on.
My question is, what kind of guidelines would you give to a guy like me who's a total noob in Marketing. I can make websites and stuff like that, but how do you find good products/services to sell.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by Dantech View Post

    how do you find good products/services to sell.
    (i) Careful market research ("finding out what kind of things people already want to buy and then looking for ways to sell it to them" is always far preferable to "finding out what you want to sell and then looking for people to sell it to").

    (ii) Careful niche selection, taking into account your own skill-set and capabilities (this post might help: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post8561081).

    (iii) Careful product selection (I have no idea what kind of stuff you're thinking of, but - for example - for "ClickBank-type products" this sort of thing may help: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post2161932).

    Welcome to the Warrior Forum, and good luck!

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  • You must first understand supply and demand. If you go and pick a niche like weight loss, find a solution for the market and promote the product to them

    Its simple but if you understand this fact it is step 1.

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    • An easy way to start is to promote products that you use and like. That way you have a real experience and don't feel like you are "cheating" your customers.

      Most products can be found on Amazon so sign up for an affiliate account with Amazon and get the commission that way.

      Then branch out into the less mainstream stuff and/or niche focused stuff.
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      • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
        Originally Posted by PathofLeastResistance View Post

        and don't feel like you are "cheating" your customers..
        I'm just curious, do you feel like you are cheating your customers?

        I guess a good guideline would be; if you feel like you would be "cheating" your customers somehow, that's not the product to promote.
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        • Originally Posted by Brent Stangel View Post

          I'm just curious, do you feel like you are cheating your customers?

          I guess a good guideline would be; if you feel like you would be "cheating" your customers somehow, that's not the product to promote.
          Not at all, but there is a growth curve I think for most people. First you promote products you know, then you promote products you don't know but you think will make you money (most of the time these products suck and you are cheating your customers), then you get back to what you know and quality products that really work for you and your customers.

          You know what I mean? Everyone goes through a clickbank phase right?
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    • Profile picture of the author steffanmax
      Originally Posted by Joseph Villanueva View Post

      You must first understand supply and demand. If you go and pick a niche like weight loss, find a solution for the market and promote the product to them

      Its simple but if you understand this fact it is step 1.

      Joe
      wow i really do not agree, that is like selling your soul.. there is always a demand for everything and anything.. but dont loose yourself for the money..

      screw the niche do what you like
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      • Profile picture of the author Ben Holmes
        Originally Posted by steffanmax View Post

        wow i really do not agree, that is like selling your soul.. there is always a demand for everything and anything.. but dont loose yourself for the money..

        screw the niche do what you like
        This is a good way to go broke. My very first site was a labor of love... it's at the top of all the search engines for it's terms, and has been since 2001. It's by far the number one site on the ENTIRE Internet for what it does (it's a book review site for a very particular niche) Traffic is good, and entirely organic search traffic...

        And in a good month, I can clear $20 from it.

        Don't do what you love - pick from among the big niches, something that doesn't make you gag... hopefully something that you have at least a small interest in... dig into a specific subniche, and make your play.

        Between MMO, Health, Relationships, and rabid hobbies - you should be able to find something that you can see yourself working with. And if it happens to be something you love - then you got lucky.

        But don't work outside of the traditional super niches unless you feel like failing. Because the chances are - you will.

        For every one person who's done only what he loves, and made it big in that field, there's 100's who can't.
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        • Profile picture of the author grantveronica
          A really comprehensive market research is required before you start a business. Know what niche to pursue and product to sell. Know everything about the business you're trying to put up. Most importantly, you must love the business. If you're not into it, you better not start a business. You'll only mess it up.

          Good luck!
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        • Profile picture of the author steffanmax
          Originally Posted by Ben Holmes View Post

          This is a good way to go broke. My very first site was a labor of love... it's at the top of all the search engines for it's terms, and has been since 2001. It's by far the number one site on the ENTIRE Internet for what it does (it's a book review site for a very particular niche) Traffic is good, and entirely organic search traffic...

          And in a good month, I can clear $20 from it.

          Don't do what you love - pick from among the big niches, something that doesn't make you gag... hopefully something that you have at least a small interest in... dig into a specific subniche, and make your play.

          Between MMO, Health, Relationships, and rabid hobbies - you should be able to find something that you can see yourself working with. And if it happens to be something you love - then you got lucky.

          But don't work outside of the traditional super niches unless you feel like failing. Because the chances are - you will.

          For every one person who's done only what he loves, and made it big in that field, there's 100's who can't.
          And in a good month, I can clear $20 from it.

          The niche is the last factor every to consider, except you are in this for only money.. and still you loose money..

          It is better to be a pro online in your niche, than average in an niche you don't like.

          I can earn that with my eyes closed, in any niche.
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        • Profile picture of the author steffanmax
          Originally Posted by Ben Holmes View Post

          This is a good way to go broke. My very first site was a labor of love... it's at the top of all the search engines for it's terms, and has been since 2001. It's by far the number one site on the ENTIRE Internet for what it does (it's a book review site for a very particular niche) Traffic is good, and entirely organic search traffic...

          And in a good month, I can clear $20 from it.

          Don't do what you love - pick from among the big niches, something that doesn't make you gag... hopefully something that you have at least a small interest in... dig into a specific subniche, and make your play.

          Between MMO, Health, Relationships, and rabid hobbies - you should be able to find something that you can see yourself working with. And if it happens to be something you love - then you got lucky.

          But don't work outside of the traditional super niches unless you feel like failing. Because the chances are - you will.

          For every one person who's done only what he loves, and made it big in that field, there's 100's who can't.
          Also i earn more money than you.. so that is out of the window

          * if you have a website since 2001 and MAKING $20, you are doing something wrong..
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      • Profile picture of the author Vid Yo
        Originally Posted by steffanmax View Post

        screw the niche do what you like
        not sure I agree with this. Follow this advice if your number 1 reason for this journey is pure happiness and perhaps number 2 is making money fairly quickly.

        If vice versa, seek a problem and offer a solution. If you like it, let that be the gravy!
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  • Profile picture of the author steffanmax
    earn your first dollar and get it paid out, and spend it..

    you don't need any other advice.. this is up to every person, to find his way.. and if you do it for money.. get them

    "I can make websites and stuff like that, but how do you find good products/services to sell."

    write a pdf and sell it(it does not need to be more than 30 pages), you will suprise yourself when you get 1 sale.. fiverr.com is a good way to get your first customer fast.
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  • Profile picture of the author jbsmith
    Always helps to understand what "type" of business you would like to grow (sell information, sell expertise, sell service such as your website creation, sell physical stuff such as Amazon or licensed goods, etc...) and to whom.

    All of my businesses started this way, I enjoy teaching and helping other people, so I make sure that aspect is part of my businesses. I also like to work in markets where I have an interest - ex Personal Development, Writing, Relationships, etc... and so I drill into those markets to find the opportunities and match it to offering value in a way that I am good at.

    It's not too difficult to make initial money with markets you don't give a crap about, but longer term, not the best way to build medium term business where you continue to grow it.

    Once you have a grasp on what you would like to offer and the market you want to serve, then next step is to drill down and discover pockets of demand, meet that with supply and great messaging - viola - you have yourself a business.

    Jeff
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  • Profile picture of the author @tjr
    This will fly against the most common (and frankly practical) advice here; but find that absurdly stupid dream that you have and pursue it to the ends of the earth.

    You don't have to sell a Clickbank ebook, a product on Amazon, or a craft on Etsy (all great examples, just not for everyone). Maybe you always wanted to write that robot vampire thriller. Maybe you want to act. Maybe you'd like to go on missions trips to build the third world from the ground up. Maybe you want to strengthen the education system and send your country into its next cultural renaissance.

    All of these things will require you to market yourself, your product/service, or your idea in some way. The Internet is life these days, you're going to need to know how to do online marketing. The Warrior Forum will teach you a lot of the ins and outs of what you need to know and put you in contact with people who can lift you up or fill in the blanks (assuming you're not a total jerkwad or scamming people for paltry amounts of money).

    I think a big issue a lot of novices run into is that they immediately put themselves into a box. They quickly find themselves doing something they don't like in a market that they don't care about.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mrnace
    If you know how to do websites (and stuff like that) then there is your product/service.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Addams
    Dantech,

    Research the topics of blogging and affiliate marketing. This will start you on the right road.
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  • Profile picture of the author Franck Silvestre
    Here are a couple of guidelines:

    First, get a pen and a notepad and write down what you'd like to do. I don't know, maybe it's selling product? or providing a service that helps other marketers? Or you'd like to crush it with webinars?

    Once you've found your niche, your one million dollars idea/business model, learn everything you can about it. Read blogs, the forum, ask questions. For example, if you want to make money with Facebook ads, focus on that only.

    Secondly, don't buy every shiny product under the sun.

    Third, take action even if you don't get it right the first time. The secret of successful people is speed of implementation. In other words, when you learn something, put in in application right away.

    Then, get a coach, or take someone you'd like to follow as your mentor. Ask him questions, follow him, study his marketing.

    Lastly, try not to stay more than two hours straight in front of your computer. Relax.

    And build that list of subscribers.

    I was about to forget. Once you are sure that you've found your million dollar idea, and consulted your coach or mentor or people in your mastermind, you'll need to focus on getting traffic and conversions.

    And you also need to memorize three words: test, track & tweak.

    Take care,
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  • Profile picture of the author Pedro Lopes
    Depending on your niche, here are the most popular affiliate marketing networks:
    The Top 20 Affiliate Networks 2014 - mThink

    Hope it helps!
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    There are alot of ways to start. Just know that no matter what kind of product you choose to sell on the internet, the only thing that matters is marketing. Don't think you can just go and choose a niche or product that YOU like, and think that other people will like it too.

    Make sure you know how to drive traffic, write a sales letter, create a sales page, and create backend products.
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  • Profile picture of the author fizique
    Originally Posted by Dantech View Post

    I'm new here and very much like all that's going on.
    My question is, what kind of guidelines would you give to a guy like me who's a total noob in Marketing. I can make websites and stuff like that, but how do you find good products/services to sell.

    Same here, some times it looks like I am overwhelming with too much info out there and at one point, I even don't know what should I do to get the ball rolling.

    What most frustrated me was I still don't know on how to search what market need. I understand that in order to successful in IM, we must be a solution provider to each pain that the market faced.

    The question is how we can identify their pain? How would we know those things are their pain?

    Then what marketing strategy should we apply? Is it list building, FB, Twitterr, affiliate?

    Any one can give honest opinion here? Or anyone can suggest solid training that newbies like me can follow and produce results? I mean solid training so that I can build my long term business.

    Thanks for reading and glad to hear your input. Really appreciated.
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    • Profile picture of the author jbsmith
      How do you identify their pain? Although this seems like some sort of "black magic", it really isn't that hard...here are 3-ways you can use to identify desires/wants...

      1. Look at products that are already selling well. From information product point of view, finding top ranked Amazon books and ebooks in non-fiction niche markets is one solid way to do this. For example, let's say you are interested in diet and fitness...you search Amazon under "Top Selling Diet & Fitness" titles and study the top 30 or 40. #3 on that list today is "10 Day Green Smoothie Cleanse: Lose Up To 15 Lbs in 10 Days" What you learn here is that a) The concept of using a Digestive "Cleanse" associated with weight loss is a very high demand topic. You can now go about researching and seeing if there are other "cleanse" methods with some scientific backing that you can propose (and perhaps even try yourself as you write) that will target this topic. NOTE: This book is currently #83 on ALL Of Amazon around ALL categories - in other words, a very massive seller.

      The point is you can learn a great deal by reverse-engineering the desire behind successful products, then go about targeting that same desire for transformation with a differentiated product.

      Another method we often use is to "mine" discussion comments on Forums, Blog posts, Social networks, Amazon customer comments, etc...where we see a question, frustration, or concern that gets significant participation (many comments) and many reads (most forums show you the reads and posts). This type of "mining" is a terrific way to uncover "hidden" pockets of demand.

      2. Which Marketing Techniques should you apply...What we recommend is that you go with the techniques that work best and match your strengths. For example, some people come off very well on video - so they connect best with their market through video extending into social networking. Others are best with written content where they can reach wide audiences through articles, content syndication, PR, etc... Still others are copywriting "scientists" who are great at writing copy and testing it across different ad platforms and see very good ROI this way. There is no one single RIGHT way for everyone, but there is a RIGHT way for you. They all work, you want to find one that matches your strength, allows you to reach and connect with your audience and convert them from interested into buyers.

      Honestly, where I see most people go wrong is they pick niches and products for the wrong reasons (because they THINK it will convert or because someone else did well with it...but they haven't really an interest or clue) and they pick marketing methods for the wrong reasons (again because they THINK they will work, but in fact are not aligned with your strengths). For example, video marketing works well, but if you suck at videos and hate doing them...that won't work for you.

      Jeff
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    To know for free? Read the forum all over it.

    Or..

    Buy one of the top selling with good review WSO and work on it until success. Simple.
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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    I would say when I started, no one told me to build a list.

    All these years later, and thousands of SALES later....I would say it the single biggest things to do when you trying to do well online.

    I wish I built myself a big ass list from day one i would have tripled all my sales. And seen as though 83% of all our sales are from email marketing, i guess you know what you should be doing. Its up to you to take action but.
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  • Profile picture of the author xflavor
    Do you have basic idea on online marketing?
    Here are some basic procedure on online marketing
    1. Research the market
    2. Try to figure out demand and supply
    3. Select your product or service
    4. Promote your product or service.
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    Originally Posted by Dantech View Post

    I'm new here and very much like all that's going on.
    My question is, what kind of guidelines would you give to a guy like me who's a total noob in Marketing. I can make websites and stuff like that, but how do you find good products/services to sell.
    Start with Affiliate marketing ( best way to get started online)

    You can choose different products from different marketplace like Clickbank , Jvzoo, infusionsoft
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  • The knowledge is all out there. The real problem is motivation and constant motivation + productivity.

    1. Find trusted sources of marketing information
    2. Start testing stuff. Results-oriented mindset
    3. If you want to be an affiliate look though sites like Clickbank and offervault

    Motivation and productivity is key
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    • Profile picture of the author fizique
      Great, thanks for sharing but I think most difficult challenge the newbies will face are choosing which trusted sources of marketing information that can be follow. Which trainer or training course that should be trust in order to get on the right track. Because it is common now days, some people sell their stuff without they even doing or practice them.
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  • Profile picture of the author usemyteam
    Hi Poster!

    There are things you need to know first before jumping to reading marketing blogs.
    1. Find a niche that you would like to work on.
    2. Research the niche and set a target market. Check out how that niche is going on the online arena.
    3. Ready yourself for some tough challenges before getting your ROI.

    Once you are done, you need to read marketing blogs but ensure that the information you get would definitely be useful to you. Check if the website is trusted and have some friends work with you on testing your niche/product or whatever you plan on selling.

    Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author Esteban Gomez
    Here's my advice:

    Find a niche that you are passionate about.

    You need to be passionate because making money online takes dedication and hard work.

    Don't choose a niche just because there is little competition or because its the new deal.

    Create a blog about this niche designed to get optins (emails) intro your autoresponder's list. (I use Pure Leverage but there are others like Aweber and Getresponse) You can check out my blog for this.

    Create valuable content people like to get followers and leads (emails) into your list.

    Market to your leads via email with products that are related to your list.

    You have to make sure that you are branding yourself as an authority and giving massive value to your followers to create a close relationship.

    This is pretty much what you have to do to start making money online.

    To scale up you can invest into paid traffic such as Solo Ads, Facebook PCC, Banner Ads, etc.

    To keep it simple:

    1. Get traffic to your squeeze pages (leadpages.net)

    2. Get leads into your autoresponder

    3. Market to your leads

    (Use your blog to give value and earn trust with your readers. The more value and people receive from you the more money you are going to make)

    Hope this helps
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