Three Things You Need to Improve to Make Lots of Money Online

by Elec
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Fellow warriors, here are some things I believe that taking care of them is always good to earn decent income online. The more you can improve them the more money you’ll make.

#1 Cost

Always track your costs. Costs are important and essential. In order to save time, you can go and hire a freelancer to do a specific job for you. By calculating your costs, you’ll easily be able to calculate your profits.

# 2 Price

If you have a product, pricing is the essential thing to make you earn that money. Setting higher prices, means more money and vice versa.

#3 Volume

If you can sell your product or service to many people, you then already created a great product with many useful benefits that customers like.

The best way here is research your market well to know what the problems that if you managed to solve, you can achieve high sales volume.

Hope these tips help, guys!
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  • Profile picture of the author Marked09
    @Elec - These are definitely one of the many things you need to watch out when building an online business. However I would also say that they need to work on themselves first before anything else...

    I've created a few products and free ones and most of them are the exact methods that I used however whenever I check on the progress of the people who downloaded the report. They will always have an excuse why they didn't implement the methods I have laid out.

    I'm sure most product creators will agree with me on this..

    If people can't get pass this and will continue to give some B.S excuses I highly doubt they will be successful!
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    • Profile picture of the author Elec
      Originally Posted by Marked09 View Post

      @Elec - These are definitely one of the many things you need to watch out when building an online business. However I would also say that they need to work on themselves first before anything else...

      I've created a few products and free ones and most of them are the exact methods that I used however whenever I check on the progress of the people who downloaded the report. They will always have an excuse why they didn't implement the methods I have laid out.

      I'm sure most product creators will agree with me on this..

      If people can't get pass this and will continue to give some B.S excuses I highly doubt they will be successful!
      @Marked09 Although you're correct saying that they're not the only things to watch out, but those are not methods; they're the basic framework that any business need to work it out in order to generate higher income. For any business around the world..
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  • Profile picture of the author positivenegative
    Originally Posted by Elec;9509945

    Fellow warriors, here are some things I believe that taking care of them is always good to earn decent income online. The more you can improve them the more money you'll make.
    I admire your enthusiasm, but you're totally wrong. Here's why . . .



    Originally Posted by Elec View Post


    #1 Cost

    Always track your costs. Costs are important and essential. In order to save time, you can go and hire a freelancer to do a specific job for you. By calculating your costs, you'll easily be able to calculate your profits.
    Yes, pay careful attention to your costs, but using a freelancer achieves absolutely nothing unless you categorically know that they can achieve better results than if you'd done it yourself . . . and more importantly, that they have a "handle" on your niche. Freelancers, in whatever guise, are only as good as the results they get YOU - not what they've achieved previously.


    Originally Posted by Elec View Post


    # 2 Price

    If you have a product, pricing is the essential thing to make you earn that money. Setting higher prices, means more money and vice versa.
    Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

    Setting higher prices alienates the middle and lower end of the market either for reasons of affordability, or the "too good to be true" factor. If at all possible you should always set your price structure at the lowest possible entry level. Then - if your product/service is good of course - you have many more customers to spread "word of mouth" praise.

    Setting "higher prices" in NO WAY guarantees more money.


    Originally Posted by Elec View Post



    #3 Volume

    If you can sell your product or service to many people, you then already created a great product with many useful benefits that customers like.
    You can sell your product/service to few people, but the quality of it, coupled with referrals and spin-off's you achieve from it, far outweigh selling to many who are "one-off" buyers" who've seen your sales pitch but will never return.


    Originally Posted by Elec View Post


    The best way here is research your market well to know what the problems that if you managed to solve, you can achieve high sales volume.
    Really!

    I don't know any people - newbies included - that would enter into a business without having researched their market.

    Oh, btw, researching your market is NO guarantee of high sales volume, as you state.


    Originally Posted by Elec View Post


    Hope these tips help, guys!
    Sadly, no.
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    • Profile picture of the author blitzbc
      Originally Posted by positivenegative View Post

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      Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

      Setting higher prices alienates the middle and lower end of the market either for reasons of affordability, or the "too good to be true" factor. If at all possible you should always set your price structure at the lowest possible entry level. Then - if your product/service is good of course - you have many more customers to spread "word of mouth" praise.

      Setting "higher prices" in NO WAY guarantees more money.




      You can sell your product/service to few people, but the quality of it, coupled with referrals and spin-off's you achieve from it, far outweigh selling to many who are "one-off" buyers" who've seen your sales pitch but will never return.



      I completely agree with this! You have to set your price based on your authority on the subject/niche. If you are brand new to the niche and nobody knows you, don't expect to sell something at what you believe it to be worth. Sell it at what the market knows it is worth.
      My first product I tried put everything I had into it. I loaded it with value and believed I could sell it for what similar products were selling for. The problem was that nobody knew who I was. So start small, once people can see that you are providing valuable content, you can raise your price accordingly. This will truly result in more sales in the long run.
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    • Profile picture of the author Elec
      Originally Posted by positivenegative View Post

      I admire your enthusiasm, but you're totally wrong. Here's why . . .





      Yes, pay careful attention to your costs, but using a freelancer achieves absolutely nothing unless you categorically know that they can achieve better results than if you'd done it yourself . . . and more importantly, that they have a "handle" on your niche. Freelancers, in whatever guise, are only as good as the results they get YOU - not what they've achieved previously.




      Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

      Setting higher prices alienates the middle and lower end of the market either for reasons of affordability, or the "too good to be true" factor. If at all possible you should always set your price structure at the lowest possible entry level. Then - if your product/service is good of course - you have many more customers to spread "word of mouth" praise.

      Setting "higher prices" in NO WAY guarantees more money.




      You can sell your product/service to few people, but the quality of it, coupled with referrals and spin-off's you achieve from it, far outweigh selling to many who are "one-off" buyers" who've seen your sales pitch but will never return.




      Really!

      I don't know any people - newbies included - that would enter into a business without having researched their market.

      Oh, btw, researching your market is NO guarantee of high sales volume, as you state.




      Sadly, no.
      @positivenegative Of course you're correct, but I don't mean in anyway the market studies or information you collect about your industry and competition to win customers, neither do I mean that you always have to set higher prices.

      What I say these factors are always the reason behind making a lot of money, so try to consider them, since practically, if you managed to leverage them, you'll have a successful business.
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnnyPlan
    Rather than setting a high price for a common item, you would do better by finding a rare product or service that no one else offers online. In this way, you can charge what you want and still earn money, so long as there is a demand and ready audience for what you are offering.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    If you are brand new to the niche and nobody knows you, don't expect to sell something at what you believe it to be wort
    I don't know about that. I'm from the old school and some mail order guru once told me to start at the high side of what you think the market will bear and then adjust down if necessary.

    I've had a number of products that sold well at what I thought was a very high price and didn't sell as well at lower prices. If I would have started out low I probably would never have risen the test price to the level where it actually made the most money.

    I always start high but as always, test, test, test!
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    • Profile picture of the author Alice12345
      Originally Posted by Brent Stangel View Post

      I don't know about that. I'm from the old school and some mail order guru once told me to start at the high side of what you think the market will bear and then adjust down if necessary.

      I've had a number of products that sold well at what I thought was a very high price and didn't sell as well at lower prices. If I would have started out low I probably would never have risen the test price to the level where it actually made the most money.

      I always start high but as always, test, test, test!
      Totally agree with you. But the point here is make a quality product. Sometime higher price sell better than lower price or vice visa. Always test. But I am sure FREE stuff is definitely not worth it.
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      • Profile picture of the author Marked09
        Originally Posted by Alice12345 View Post

        Totally agree with you. But the point here is make a quality product. Sometime higher price sell better than lower price or vice visa. Always test. But I am sure FREE stuff is definitely not worth it.
        This is absolutely correct but I want to add some reason behind why higher priced product will sell well.

        1.) You attract more affiliate. If you are to sell $1 product don't expect affiliates to jump in and promote your product. It is tested that if you sell product more than $7 or more product you will attract more affiliate because you get higher EPC.

        2.) Most of the time $1 are total junk or just used to weed out tire kicker at the same time used to pre-sell to a higher offer. Majority of the people are intelligent enough to realize this (At least for IM audience).

        I'm not saying that all products sold for $1 product are crap but majority of the marketers even noobs do it nowadays mainly for 2 reason that they will have no guilt of selling a crappy product or because they are not confident enough that it will really bring value to their leads.

        3.) Having a higher priced product to sell as an OTO gives you faster return of ROI on your traffic campaign. Meaning more traffic = More Sales.
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        • Profile picture of the author Steve B
          I say test the market before you set your price. Begin with two prices, both seemingly reasonable and competitive for your market, one higher and one lower. Drive some paid traffic to each and test the response. You may want to do this several times over a short period until you are convinced that you have the best price point. Once you know what that point is . . . then you can set your price and roll out the product.

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          • Profile picture of the author MikeMiller
            Originally Posted by Steve B View Post

            I say test the market before you set your price. Begin with two prices, both seemingly reasonable and competitive for your market, one higher and one lower. Drive some paid traffic to each and test the response. You may want to do this several times over a short period until you are convinced that you have the best price point. Once you know what that point is . . . then you can set your price and roll out the product.

            Steve
            Very true! Always test everything, not just try to decide the right way on your own.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeMiller
    This is an interesting thread, that starts to get valuable, but started out a bit wrong.
    Of course the things @Elec mentioned are important, but as @positivenegative started to explain, they are very important in a different way:

    1. Costs
    Yes, costs are very important, but you can not just go for low costs. Having very high costs can also be highly profitable. What you have to go for is ROI. If you have high costs, but still make good profit, and those high costs are necessary to achieve the good profits, then there's nothing wrong with your high costs.
    A great example is what I see with a lot of clients of mine when we start working together: the first place where they cut costs is marketing, because they don't actually measure the results of their marketing efforts, so they only see what they spend. After cutting the marketing budget they struggle to get new clients, and I have to explain to them why they should see marketing in a strategic way, and not just spend money on it.

    It's always about ROI, if you get more value than what you spend, you should spend it!

    This is also true for freelancers: you have to think of ROI, not just the costs, and it includes value and quality. If you get crap for cheaper you are surely not better off with it.

    2. Price
    It's about value and perceived value.
    If you are selling a very common, very basic product, with not much extra value (like a basic low-end Android phone), you should go for the lower price ranges, because otherwise people will buy other similar products. Of course you have to consider your costs and make sure that you make profit.
    On the other hand if you have a special product with extra value (like a high-end phone), you should go for the higher price ranges for three reasons:
    - that's where you will make profit
    - your product offers the right value for the high price
    - if the price is high it means that not many people will be able to afford it, so the rareness and perceived status of the product will add extra value

    3. Volume
    This is in close correlation with the Price and Costs. If you sell something for 2$, but your costs are just 1$, and you sell a 1000 items, you make 1000$ profit. But if you sell something for 2000$ with 1000$ costs you get the same 1000$ profit by selling just one item.

    There's also the basic rule of economics, which is true in most cases: lower price means higher volume, higher price means smaller volume. Of course sometimes it's exactly the opposite, but that's usually the exception, not the rule.

    Volume is not everything, and sometimes it's even counterproductive. If you were selling a high-priced coaching program, and openly advertised that there are like a thousand free spots, people would think that you can't provide much value, and it's not so special. If you only offer 10 spots for the same program, people would think that it's unique, and can give value, because you only divide your time between 10 people.

    You should always go for ROI and for the right balance between costs, prices and volumes.
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    • Profile picture of the author Elec
      @MikeMiller

      3. Volume
      This is in close correlation with the Price and Costs. If you sell something for 2$, but your costs are just 1$, and you sell a 1000 items, you make 1000$ profit. But if you sell something for 2000$ with 1000$ costs you get the same 1000$ profit by selling just one item.
      That's why I said costs, price, and volume are the major factors. If you expect to sell high volume, then costs doesn't matter and your ROI will be high.
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      • Profile picture of the author Steve B
        Originally Posted by Elec View Post

        If you expect to sell high volume, then costs doesn't matter and your ROI will be high.

        Whoa! Costs don't matter?

        Spoken like someone that has never owned a business.

        Costs always matter, regardless of how much you sell. Just because you "expect" to sell high volume, there is no guarantee that you will.

        Volume is really something that you can't control and I'm not even sure why it's on your list. Your cost and the price you choose for your product you can control. But volume is a function of cost and price and market demand. You don't control volume of sales - that's something that you work to maximize by adjusting the price point to a level that is accepted by your prospects.

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        • Profile picture of the author Elec
          Originally Posted by Steve B View Post

          Whoa! Costs don't matter?

          Spoken like someone that has never owned a business.

          Costs always matter, regardless of how much you sell. Just because you "expect" to sell high volume, there is no guarantee that you will.

          Volume is really something that you can't control and I'm not even sure why it's on your list. Your cost and the price you choose for your product you can control. But volume is a function of cost and price and market demand. You don't control volume of sales - that's something that you work to maximize by adjusting the price point to a level that is accepted by your prospects.

          Steve
          I exactly mean that, unless you're a big market, be it a 1 billion market, and you have high opportunity to sell high volume in such markets, you shouldn't care much about cost, because you have better chance, as you said, to maximize volume. You have a lot of space to do this in such markets. But yes, of course costs is the base of your profits, how doesn't it matter? Sure I don't mean that.
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          • Profile picture of the author MikeMiller
            Originally Posted by Elec View Post

            I exactly mean that, unless you're a big market, be it a 1 billion market, and you have high opportunity to sell high volume in such markets, you shouldn't care much about cost, because you have better chance, as you said, to maximize volume. You have a lot of space to do this in such markets. But yes, of course costs is the base of your profits, how doesn't it matter? Sure I don't mean that.
            Costs, Price and Volume matter together. Like @Steve B said, it doesn't matter what volumes you are selling, costs always matter. It's a simply a question of P&L calculation. If you sell high volumes, but your costs are too high to actually make profits, then high volumes mean nothing.
            There's also the question of fixed and variable costs. With an online business fixed costs are usually lower, and variable costs are exactly the ones which go higher when you sell bigger volumes, though it's naturally not a problem if you make a profit. Let's say you spend 100$ on advertising, which brings you 50$ profit, if you spend double, profits will double. There's no such thing as costs doesn't matter. They always matter, you just have to spend less than what you earn. It actually has no correlation to the size of your market.

            And about huge markets: don't even go there, because you will fail hard. So many people make the mistake of looking at the size of the market, and thinking that if I can just get a small piece of that market, I will be rich. A 1 billion dollar market doesn't mean that that's the earning potential on the market, it doesn't even necessarily mean, that there is room on that market. Your market is always the amount of people who you can reach and turn into prospects and customers. If the market has 1 million buyers, but your marketing budget only allows you to reach 100 of them, then 1 million isn't your market.
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