Reviews on WSOs genuine?

by bigmaz
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Hi guys

Just a wee question that I have been wondering for a while. After looking through a lot of WSOs on the forum. For some, there follows a string of ppl replying in the thread praising the persons WSO, and their other stuff. How genuine are these praises do you think? A lot seem too good to be true. Are they a group of ppl who praise each other to generate some interest from potential buyers? I am a very sceptical person as you have probably notice, lol, and maybe a bit out of order asking, but just curious what other ppl think about it.
#genuine #reviews #wsos
  • Profile picture of the author Mr Bill
    A few people believe there's a conspiracy to defraud but I honestly doubt it exists in the overwhelming majority of cases. Most of the time people ask for reviews before posting their offer and those reviews are then posted in the thread. As to their accuracy - who's to know. People tend to want to be nice. It's the negative reviews you need to look out for.
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    • Profile picture of the author Arun Chandran
      Take the reviews with a pinch of salt. Most people are too nice to say anything negative after they have received a free copy.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        Most of the positive reviews come from those who have "read" the WSO or "watched" the videos. That's not the same as someone who put the theories into practice or did the step by step.

        I only trust reviews if I know something about the reviewer. If I see people I respect recommending a WSO I would look at it closely. Doesn't mean I buy everything those same people "recommend" if I'm on their list.
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        • Profile picture of the author Mr Bill
          Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

          Most of the positive reviews come from those who have "read" the WSO or "watched" the videos. That's not the same as someone who put the theories into practice or did the step by step.

          I only trust reviews if I know something about the reviewer. If I see people I respect recommending a WSO I would look at it closely. Doesn't mean I buy everything those same people "recommend" if I'm on their list.
          That's true. I look for evidence of people actually having made money using the suggestions and resources in the offer or I take a personal risk. I do put a little bit of stock in people explaining what's inside so I'm not surprised at a 300 word suggestion sold as a way to make money.

          I'd rather pay hundreds or thousands for something that actually works and has real testimonials from serious people who have made money than gamble my time and hopes on something that looks good.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    There is definitely a lot of circle jerk groups in IM, and you will certainly find that in the WSO section.

    You can find plenty of "Follow my 90-day course to riches" sort of offers that have tons of reviews within 15 minutes of launching. That is a pretty dead giveaway.

    Also if the review just praises the seller and mentions a lot of past products, but doesn't specifically talk about the product in the sales thread, I ignore it. Person probably did not even buy the product or has not even really looked at it yet. They are just helping out a buddy.
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  • Profile picture of the author deekay
    Hi bigmaz, you can check a special section in warriorforum, where people do advertise for reviewers and give free review copies or trials in return of positive feedback.

    These are done to gain initial momentum and generate initial buzz for the product. But do understand that, if product is good, then this effect will carry on and people do write and praise for good products. But if not, then nothing can carry on bad products at its own.

    Go and check yourself that section and see, how you can review some products and check them before hand.....
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  • Profile picture of the author gmarklin
    Some are from people promoting and some are from other forum members. How genuine and true I am not sure
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    • Profile picture of the author PLR365
      I did a review here the other day for the first time and I was bitterly disappointed when I downloaded the product. I left an honest review (without sabotaging the marketers WSO) but I was brutally honest with him behind closed doors. Unfortunately, it seems the Warrior forum doesn't vet products before they are listed, which leaves the door open to unscrupulous marketers and scammers. I believe more care is needed here to make sure all offers are genuine and not pirated or overpriced.
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
        Originally Posted by PLR365 View Post

        it seems the Warrior forum doesn't vet products before they are listed, which leaves the door open to unscrupulous marketers and scammers. I believe more care is needed here to make sure all offers are genuine and not pirated or overpriced.
        That's nearly impossible to do. Some offers are a 6-month course. Are you going to volunteer your time to go through all those courses and put their techniques into practice to determine if it is overpriced?

        There are far too many offers in far too many areas of expertise for moderators to make an accurate judgement on what is good and what is bad.

        If something is found to be pirated, it is generally removed as soon as that is reported.
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        • Profile picture of the author PLR365
          Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

          That's nearly impossible to do. Some offers are a 6-month course. Are you going to volunteer your time to go through all those courses and put their techniques into practice to determine if it is overpriced?

          There are far too many offers in far too many areas of expertise for moderators to make an accurate judgement on what is good and what is bad.

          If something is found to be pirated, it is generally removed as soon as that is reported.
          Fair enough, it may seem difficult to vet a 6 month course, but first they could start with vetting stand alone products like ebooks and software. The product I reviewed the other day was possibly swiped from another marketer, although I have no proof! And it was certainly overpriced at $47 for a 21 page PDF full of fluff. I still think WF should, and is, more than capable of implementing a vetting procedure for most products.
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          • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
            Originally Posted by PLR365 View Post

            Fair enough, it may seem difficult to vet a 6 month course, but first they could start with vetting stand alone products like ebooks and software. The product I reviewed the other day was possibly swiped from another marketer, although I have no proof! And it was certainly overpriced at $47 for a 21 page PDF full of fluff. I still think WF should, and is, more than capable of implementing a vetting procedure for most products.
            The market sets the price. It should not be up to the Warrior Forum to set prices. If a seller tries selling something that is overpriced, that will get out rather quickly and sales will trickle to a halt. Just like any other product in any other market.

            Not to mention all kind of personal bias comes into setting prices. If I read half the stuff on SEO in the WSO section I would probably say that at free they are overpriced. Other people that know little to nothing about SEO might say that some of those same products are worth a lot more to them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Luke Dennison
    I will always read the reviews on the second page, as that's where the reviews from people who have actually paid usually start coming in.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    I believe more care is needed here to make sure all offers are genuine and not pirated or overpriced
    Just stop for one second and consider the logistics:

    Putting qualified eyeballs on every single product beginning to end. Just that alone would require a massive force. Who decides if they are qualified?

    The time from submission to actual posting would be insane.

    The added costs to listing fees in order to cover the army of manpower required would effectively kill the WSO forum.

    It is not now or will it ever be possible.

    There are systems in place to deal with products you don't like or don't live up to the hype.

    #1 Don't buy it!
    #2 Get a refund!

    Stop expecting others to protect you from yourself.
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  • Profile picture of the author ronrule
    Threads like this always seem kind of strange to me... why is it that courses presented as WSO's are so heavily scrutinized/referred to as a scam when a buyer fails to achieve the exact same results as the author, but the same people that do that don't hold any other forms of study to the same standard?

    Turn on the TV to see what I mean...

    EVERY advertisement for a university or specialized training talks about how much more money you'll make with the education they're offering. Every. Single. One. And likewise, every one of them has testimonials from graduates who talk about their new job and how much their life has improved.

    You don't see I.T.T. graduates whining that they we re "ripped off" because they didn't get a $200k job offer from the Department of Defense, do you?

    Or law school grads whining about how they weren't able to just open their own practice and start raking in the cash?

    Or buyers of books like "Rich Dad Poor Dad" or Dave Ramsey's Financial Peace course crying about how a couple weeks later they still aren't rich/are still in debt?

    Traditional presentations of higher education, courses, etc. present the same type of "sensationalized" testimonials from individuals who've managed to accomplish these things, but they're never attacked the way IM courses are.

    Why not? Because you know that "knowing is HALF the battle". I can teach you something I know, show you exactly what I'm doing step by step, but that doesn't mean you'll have the exact same results. And a logical person KNOWS that when it's presented in the traditional setting. Heck, the unemployment rate for college grads is through the roof right now - they were "sold the dream" and still can't get a job. Are they demanding refunds?

    Yet for some reason when the same "dream" is presented online, suddenly logic is thrown out the window, instant gratification is mandatory, and anything that doesn't deliver it is a scam and must be riddled with fake testimonials?
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by Arun Chandran View Post

      Take the reviews with a pinch of salt. Most people are too nice to say anything negative after they have received a free copy.
      Take most of them with a big double handful of salt. Use the salt to keep you from reaching for your wallet.

      There are bunches of "Warriors" whose main business seems to be trading review copies for positive reviews. After all, it's a lot easier to ask for that freebie when you have a track record of posting positive things.
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  • Profile picture of the author Javisito
    Reviews are often very overestimating but there is a few good WSO's though. A good rule of thumb is to see if there are any negative reviews. If it is bad you can be assured that people will post negatives. People just work like that imo.
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