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Just a message of inspiration for other marketers... don't give up!

We're often led to believe that in internet marketing, it is all "instant money".

It's often not really how it is.

I spent best part of a year creating a Clickbank product - a 330 page book.

Like many marketers doing things for the first time, I thought "This book is awesome. It's gonna be a stampede. I'm going to get rich quick!"

It didn't happen. For the first few months I made barely any sales at all.

However, I persisted. I improved my sales materials. I did some link building.

And now the product has started selling. I've got myself an affiliate who is making consistent sales - and I'm guessing it must be converting well for them because they are sticking with it.

Another example - just over a year ago I created a ringtone web site and did some SEO. Within a couple of months it got into the top ten on google for the phrase "free iphone ringtones" and started making me a few bucks. Not bad. Another ringtone company made me an offer and I sold the site. I should have hung in there... right when I was in the sales process for the site, around a year after I created it, it suddenly jumped up several places in the SERPS and the traffic doubled.


So I have a few tips to summarize with here.

1) Success sometimes takes a while. Don't give up.
2) Sites sometimes take a while to show their true form. Don't just offload it if it hasn't hit pay dirt within a couple of months.
3) If you are an affiliate, don't just test out the best performing Clickbank products. Try some others - they might not have any gravity yet because they haven't achieved the gravity to attract the really good affiliates yet. You don't know how well something is going to convert until you actually try it.
4) Don't sit back while you wait for something to show form. Keep developing other ideas.

As they say, "overnight success often takes a few years"....

Happy summer everyone!
Alex.
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  • Profile picture of the author hugofortin
    Thank you for your message!

    Something, we need this kind of message from time to time. I really easy to just give up. We feel like a faillure.

    Never, never give up

    Hugo
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  • Profile picture of the author TheDebtEliminator
    Thomas Edison tried to invent the light bulb more than 1,000 Times and stayed with it until he succeded.

    I do not have the patience, but do admire his determination
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    • Profile picture of the author hugofortin
      Originally Posted by TheDebtEliminator View Post

      Thomas Edison tried to invent the light bulb more than 1,000 Times and stayed with it until he succeded.

      I do not have the patience, but do admire his determination
      Yes, he was very determinate. A great man!

      All those great man and woman have a point in commun. They are determinate. They said to themselve: "no matter what, I must do it..."

      bye

      Hugo
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    • Profile picture of the author Gary Pettit
      Originally Posted by TheDebtEliminator View Post

      Thomas Edison tried to invent the light bulb more than 1,000 Times and stayed with it until he succeded.

      I do not have the patience, but do admire his determination
      And when asked how he kept going, failing 1000 times, Edison said: "I didn't fail. I succeeded in finding 1000 ways how NOT to make a lightbulb."

      Sheer genius! And a master of self-motivation.
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  • Profile picture of the author dino_rhino
    thanks for the inspiration. internet marketing indeed is not all "instant money". you have to have strategies and a lot of patience.
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  • Profile picture of the author mobiusman
    Edison didn't give up even when he lost his research facility in a fire. He said, "Good, all our mistakes are burned up. We can start again."
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  • Profile picture of the author emofree
    Internet marketing needs consistent patience, and wisdom to achieve it's goal. Never Give up ...
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  • Profile picture of the author NijThinkIt
    Very good post and replies!

    I got lucky really early in my life running big music events. But then I got complacent with my success and lost a lot of money in the process. I then found I had to relearn everything again and starting out with huge debts was really difficult. But over that time period I made great progress because of my sheer will and determination to succeed again!

    I found there is a day which I call "Judgement Day" that is the day that determines whether you taste success or give in to failure. Its this day that you will be tested the hardest and the symptoms of it are quite familiar. Panic, fear, worry, low self worth etc. If you can survive past this day and you know in your gut that you are doing the right thing then you will succeed if you dont give up!

    I urge people to thing small first. Making your first $ is the best feeling ever. This is often all you need to have the will to carry on.

    It doesnt happen over night.

    There is no such thing as a magic pill or button.

    Just hard work, persistance and pure determination!
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  • Profile picture of the author kanenala
    This message was a great pick me up! It is always good to see positive words or motivation when you are working hard at something.
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  • Profile picture of the author edward_james
    What a great inspirational post... and I agree totally... we have all encountered failures in our lives... but the secret we all know is that we should all carry on making mistakes because the successes out weigh the mistakes tenfold... thanks again for a great post
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    • Profile picture of the author TanyaBlack
      What a fabulous post. My day started well and then the beasties threatened to dine on my motivation and tempt me to wallow. I only joined the forum two days ago but am absolutely loving that there's so many inspiring people here to bouce off.

      Great thread. Keep em coming.
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  • Profile picture of the author bilt
    i agree and disagree you need to keep trying but the person only has certain amount of money to put in and lets say everytime they spend money for the new methods and dont make money they get more and more disappointed and get themselves more indebt and if you simply dont see yourself making money online then you should just give up cuz this making money online is not for everybody some people get it and some people dont get it you need to decide which one are you the one who gets it or the one who doesnt get it and only spending money on methods and not making any money from the methods.
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  • Profile picture of the author The Villa
    Thank you for the encouragement. I've been told so many times before that success online takes a lot of work and effort and that initial failures are normal. It just feels really bad though when you actually experience failing. I have to remind myself every time that this is all part of the process.
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  • Profile picture of the author Good News Now
    Good post, Alex. This is encouraging. Keep it up
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  • Profile picture of the author zain654321
    This is totaly true, i have also gave up when i did not get even pany. Now with your tips i will try again. very much effective tips. thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Igor Kheifets
    Great advice Alex,

    one more thing about not taking action.
    The only time you don't need to be taking
    action and only sitting back and watching is
    when you are doing some testing.

    Sometimes it is important to test stuff for a
    period of time without touching, so you know
    what is going on and what needs to be changed.

    Igor
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  • Profile picture of the author Emma Ngin
    Thanks for sharing a great post! If we all start taking action and not just depend on a certain thing/generated income, then things will definitely be okay for all of us. Yes, there is no such thing as overnight success, even movie stars doesn't achieve their status in a day or two. Great post and Thank you!
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    • Profile picture of the author artofbizz
      When they say that your idea is
      dumb
      stupid
      and idiotic

      Here's what I do
      I smile politely and back away.
      Because both they and their words are POISON to my success.
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  • Profile picture of the author jim09875
    Life is nothing but only struggle your post reminds that again and again.So must inspiring post.My heartiest thanx for sharing....
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  • Profile picture of the author aihamshujaa
    Great advice there. All those messages from so-called gurus about quick-rich schemes is getting both tiring and just plain wrong...
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  • Profile picture of the author AnneE
    I agree with you. Particularly about the concept that sometimes it takes a while for a webpage or website to surface in the rankings and that once you have put in a fair effort, rather than be discouraged by it's lack of success, just put your efforts into another approach or niche.

    I also agree that the folks who hit big bucks in internet marketing in a few months are very few and far in between.

    So what is your Clickbank product? I can see that you might not have mentionned it before for fear that you would be slammed by others as promoting, but, it's okay now that I've asked.
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  • Profile picture of the author competitive
    I had my own business and was very successful for 5 years, In 2003 I created my own ebook linked to my business at the time after following shawn casey's (Internet guru) methods in "cash flow circle". That taught me how to create a sales page and a thank you page, how to build a list of subscribers with an autoresponder and so on. I did not realise the full potential of the marketing on the internet for my product, but astonishingly I made sales. I just used the product as a conduit for my business.

    Low and behold when the recession came my business went down the pan, so now I am marketing full steam ahead with my products to build back an income.

    So yes Never Give Up.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jacksprat
      Just one question - If you're concentrating on one niche, what amount of time should you give it to work? I'm just wondering whether there's a cut-off point where you give up and move onto a new niche?
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  • Profile picture of the author lexilexi
    Thanks for all the responses and positive feedback folks, awesome!! Good to see all this motivation, dreams and drive.

    My CB product is the one in my sig file.

    Another thing worth considering... we hear stories of the "mega-success" entrepreneurs but they don't tell us about all the embarrassing flops that it took to learn to build that mega site and campaign. When I think back to the beginning of my IM efforts, I cringe a little now. But that's how it is. Everyone makes mistakes, they are necessary for learning. The ones who succeed are the ones who learn from the mistakes and then apply that knowledge.
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  • Profile picture of the author lexilexi
    @Jacksprat... honestly, I would suggest never giving up on a niche.

    It only costs you a few bucks a year to keep your sites alive... you can always work on something you are more motivated by for a while and come back to the others later when you are feeling enthusiastic about them. In the meantime, you have acquired domain age and possibly pagerank. I've been in situations and I know many others have too, where sites they have "abandoned" have started taking off months later. By all means start with a new niche that you are all fired up about - but hang on to the other stuff... even if you just put a few ads on the pages and get a trickle of income from google traffic... it's really nice to get those occasional checks from the ad companies when you aren't expecting them.
    Another thing to consider is development of forum or community sites where others do some of the building for you. This is part of the success of Mark Pincus of plentyoffish. Others build all the pages, and with the option to appoint moderators, the forums are largely self governing.
    Takes more work to develop that kind of site but I'm investigating it right now with a particular dating niche I have not seen covered anywhere at all. I'm not telling you what it is - but here's a clue: How many ways can you categorize people? For every categorization, there is a potential niche.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jacksprat
      Hey thanks for the good advice!
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  • Profile picture of the author jimbo21
    Thank you man. This is exactly what I needed to hear right now.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Steel
    good stuff...thanx all -
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  • Profile picture of the author wealthminded
    Good things to hear.
    Just remember, if it was easy everyone would be doing it. Then nobody would make any money. That's why only 5% really make it happen, and it sounds like you are one of them.
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  • Profile picture of the author mr.schutz
    Success is something that is always with us, it only depends on oneself if we work hard and strive for the things we want to achieve. Giving up means losing the success that we within us and never had the chance to unleash it.
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  • Profile picture of the author aQsa08
    thanks for the inspiration.IM definitely not like we thought.It take times,patience,work hard....
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  • Profile picture of the author in51der
    Well said...
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  • Profile picture of the author gabidragomir
    many many imarketers who, like me, are at the very beginning may struggle and may feel
    comfort thinking others have difficult times..

    But we have to keep in mind that success is dependent only on us.. that's it !

    We control the chances some how.. or not ?
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    • Profile picture of the author hugofortin
      We are the authors of our own life!

      bye

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  • Profile picture of the author eienblue
    Thank you very much.. That's a great motivation
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  • Profile picture of the author theimgroup
    I agree with you totally, I've been working for a long time at what I do and I am only now seeing some nice results. Great post!

    Daniel
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  • Profile picture of the author adamonline
    Good stuff. Thanks all !
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  • Profile picture of the author K.serrattan
    Thank you for sharing your success with us!

    There are so many failures when it comes to seeking success... sometimes even the best of us get discouraged. But reading your post made me smile and remember why I'm doing all this.

    Thanks again!

    Kristan
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  • Profile picture of the author BigFish47
    Thanks! That really is great advice.
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  • Profile picture of the author PeterDunin
    Cheers man! I'm going to put your advice to good use.
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  • Profile picture of the author warrior32
    I have been trying internet marketing for 8 months now. And have not made a dime. these post give some good encouragement thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author warrior32
    Thanks for the encouragement
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  • Profile picture of the author Backlinks Weekend
    I read a book that I will remember for the rest of my life and I think if that book is published in English, you should grab a copy and read about it, too. It's called "Never a failure! All are challenges". The book tells a story of a boy who is born in a farmer family but doesn't want to become a farmer. He tries to escape from his family fourth times and never succeed. He is punished by his father, locked up in the house and then in the fifth time, he manages to escape.

    Well, that boy is a former Huyndai chairman, Chung Ju Yung. He met a lot of failures in his life. When Huyndai was a small car fixing workshop, he faced many challenges. No customers, no money, yet he never gave up and now, Huyndai has became a really giant in heavy industry.

    Just want to share with you the philosophy which inspires me since I was a little boy. There are no failures, all are challenges and with challenges, we can overcome them.

    Have a great summer guys
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  • Profile picture of the author cainsproducts
    reading this thread has given me a nice little boost thanks all
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  • Profile picture of the author humble101
    very inspiring, a really great & refreshing read
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  • Profile picture of the author Gary Pettit
    It gives me more confidence and determination to move ahead and explore a lot.
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  • Profile picture of the author chephalonia
    yes internet marketing means think harder, learn harder, work harder.
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    • Profile picture of the author PaulSolid
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      That' exactly what i promised myself years back never to give up on any project. B/couse Winners never quit and quitters never win.

      Thanx for sharing.
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  • Profile picture of the author dwave
    Great message thanks for the love.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Thai
    Awesome post appreciate your honesty unfortunately many people are looking for the "get-rich-overnight-magic-push-button" nowadays
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