What is more important?

9 years ago

Reliability

see I'm not that bright, so had to look it up

noun
1.
the ability to be relied on or depended on, as for accuracy, honesty, or achievement.

and, 7 Different definitions of intelligence!

so many, it dosn't sound very reliable, or intelligent to me

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agc

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Sangfroid

What is more important to success:

Intelligence or reliability?

Of course, both are necessary but if you could only
have one in yourself or a partner, which would you take?

Which do you have? Structure how you do things so that is the thing that counts more.

Have really smart but unreliable people? Make sure they don't get paid if they don't deliver.

Have really reliable people but not the smartest? Make them work together in teams and build in a socratic test for acceptance.

If its YOU... then clearly reliability is more import as its the only thing YOU can control.

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somedevil

9 years ago

Intelligence without a doubt.

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rickdangelo

9 years ago

For me it would be intelligence. because with it reliability comes naturally.

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debbiesherman

9 years ago

For me it would be intelligence.

It may sound a little shallow but I think that reliability sometimes comes with the intelligence so I guess you will become reliable because of intelligence. And I believe that intelligence is not just about the academic side its about every aspect in our lives.

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Sangfroid

9 years ago

Originally Posted by debbiesherman

For me it would be intelligence.

It may sound a little shallow but I think that reliability sometimes comes with the intelligence so I guess you will become reliable because of intelligence. And I believe that intelligence is not just about the academic side its about every aspect in our lives.

Hi Debbie,

But what if you are brilliant but can't be relied on to do anything
on time?

Be Well
Don

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HDRider 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Sangfroid

Hi Debbie,

But what if you are brilliant but can't be relied on to do anything
on time?

Be Well
Don

What if you are reliable but can't do anything, remember anything shown to you or think on your own.

I have had reliable employees that actually slowed me down and cost more than they were worth. I'll take intelligence
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debbiesherman 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Sangfroid

Hi Debbie,

But what if you are brilliant but can't be relied on to do anything
on time?

Be Well
Don

Hi Don!

Like I mentioned I think reliability comes with intelligence. And as I mentioned as well intelligence comes in different forms. An intelligent person can be bad at numbers but are really good with words. I think if you are intelligent and you have honed your expertise people will rely on you on things related to your expertise. That's why in a company you have an accountant that you can rely on accounting and a graphic designer to do the designing and so on.
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tobyjensen

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Sangfroid

Hi Debbie,

But what if you are brilliant but can't be relied on to do anything
on time?

Be Well
Don

These hypothetical questions are sometimes seen as being redundant academic exercises with no practical application in the real world.

Here is a practical application: People with the proper priorities become successful and stay that way. Knowing the priority of intelligence over reliability gives you an edge. Now go use it well, meaning, be smart first and then follow through with reliability.

There are incredibly advanced ways to manage creative, intelligent people who are erratic, eccentric, blunt, critical, and condescending. Just one example to get started is to allow them autonomy.

Here are just two examples from several different categories of managing the creative individual Samantha:

DEVELOPING
Make her productive quickly
Show her the simplest, quickest, most practical way to get results

MOTIVATING
Provide opportunities to work independently
Allow her to direct the efforts of others

COMPLIMENTING
Use brief, direct statements, focusing on achievements, results, and leadership abilities
Use concise, accurate, specific statements (preferably in private) about her competence, use of logic,
efficiency, and precision

COUNSELING
Focus on obstacles to achieving results and how to eliminate them
Present needed changes in terms of impact on results and consequences

PROBLEM-SOLVING
Tends to take a practical, results-oriented approach, preferring simple, easy-to-implement, immediate solutions
May need to be directed toward considering the long-term consequences

DELEGATING
Tell her what result you need and by when; let her determine how to get it done
Specify clearly the limits of authority and available resources, allowing autonomy within those limits

CORRECTING
Be firm and direct, specifying the desired result as well as current level of performance
Direct the discussion to what she is going to do to eliminate the gap in performance

DECISION-MAKING
Tends to be a quick decision-maker
May need coaching on taking time to gather sufficient information and considering possible consequences before making decisions

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Sangfroid

9 years ago

Originally Posted by tobyjensen

These hypothetical questions are sometimes seen as being redundant academic exercises with no practical application in the real world.

Here is a practical application: People with the proper priorities become successful and stay that way. Knowing the priority of intelligence over reliability gives you an edge. Now go use it well, meaning, be smart first and then follow through with reliability.

There are incredibly advanced ways to manage creative, intelligent people who are erratic, eccentric, blunt, critical, and condescending. Just one example to get started is to allow them autonomy.

Here are just two examples from several different categories of managing the creative individual Samantha:

DEVELOPING
Make her productive quickly
Show her the simplest, quickest, most practical way to get results

MOTIVATING
Provide opportunities to work independently
Allow her to direct the efforts of others

COMPLIMENTING
Use brief, direct statements, focusing on achievements, results, and leadership abilities
Use concise, accurate, specific statements (preferably in private) about her competence, use of logic,
efficiency, and precision

COUNSELING
Focus on obstacles to achieving results and how to eliminate them
Present needed changes in terms of impact on results and consequences

PROBLEM-SOLVING
Tends to take a practical, results-oriented approach, preferring simple, easy-to-implement, immediate solutions
May need to be directed toward considering the long-term consequences

DELEGATING
Tell her what result you need and by when; let her determine how to get it done
Specify clearly the limits of authority and available resources, allowing autonomy within those limits

CORRECTING
Be firm and direct, specifying the desired result as well as current level of performance
Direct the discussion to what she is going to do to eliminate the gap in performance

DECISION-MAKING
Tends to be a quick decision-maker
May need coaching on taking time to gather sufficient information and considering possible consequences before making decisions

Good points! Well said or I mean Intelligently said!

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dbostian

9 years ago

Originally Posted by tobyjensen

These hypothetical questions are sometimes seen as being redundant academic exercises with no practical application in the real world.

Here is a practical application: People with the proper priorities become successful and stay that way. Knowing the priority of intelligence over reliability gives you an edge. Now go use it well, meaning, be smart first and then follow through with reliability.

There are incredibly advanced ways to manage creative, intelligent people who are erratic, eccentric, blunt, critical, and condescending. Just one example to get started is to allow them autonomy.

Here are just two examples from several different categories of managing the creative individual Samantha:

DEVELOPING
Make her productive quickly
Show her the simplest, quickest, most practical way to get results

MOTIVATING
Provide opportunities to work independently
Allow her to direct the efforts of others

COMPLIMENTING
Use brief, direct statements, focusing on achievements, results, and leadership abilities
Use concise, accurate, specific statements (preferably in private) about her competence, use of logic,
efficiency, and precision

COUNSELING
Focus on obstacles to achieving results and how to eliminate them
Present needed changes in terms of impact on results and consequences

PROBLEM-SOLVING
Tends to take a practical, results-oriented approach, preferring simple, easy-to-implement, immediate solutions
May need to be directed toward considering the long-term consequences

DELEGATING
Tell her what result you need and by when; let her determine how to get it done
Specify clearly the limits of authority and available resources, allowing autonomy within those limits

CORRECTING
Be firm and direct, specifying the desired result as well as current level of performance
Direct the discussion to what she is going to do to eliminate the gap in performance

DECISION-MAKING
Tends to be a quick decision-maker
May need coaching on taking time to gather sufficient information and considering possible consequences before making decisions

Good Points! I also believe that people should use their intelligence to be reliable.

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js088

9 years ago

An intelligent person may not be reliable.
A reliable person may not be very intelligent.

But I think most people would go with reliable assuming that there is an intelligent person to lead them.

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premz

9 years ago

intelligence is more important which will lead to success.

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beastwood

Banned 9 years ago

I agree with Debbie, since intelligence is really broad we can say that intelligence is something important when it comes to being reliable. People will rely on you on the things you are good at and when you are good at something it means that your intelligence is on that side of things.

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Banned 9 years ago

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Sangfroid 9 years ago

So, maybe the right answer is that neither one is
more important. They are both equally important.

One without the other does not work.

But we don't want to work with a narcissistic ego-
maniac.

Nor do we want to work with a moron.

A balance of the two works!
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Rory Singh

9 years ago

Reliability for me is more important than intelligence.

You can always acquire intelligence or know how no matter how ignorant someone may believe they are.

But reliability is like loyalty. If you can not be loyal and dependent on yourself, then it does not matter how intelligent you may be...

Because if you can not rely on yourself,

then who can?

Some of the smartest people in the world with very high IQ's come into IM and fail.

Then you have had some people who you would be voted as the least 'likely' to succeed come here and make their legacy's.

Meaning of intelligence: the ability to acquire and apply knowledge and skills.

However, knowledge is just 'Potential Power'.

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Sangfroid

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Rory Singh

Reliability for me is more important than intelligence.

You can always acquire intelligence or know how no matter how ignorant someone may believe they are.

But reliability is like loyalty. If you can not be loyal and dependent on yourself, then it does not matter how intelligent you may be...

Because if you can not rely on yourself,

then who can?

Some of the smartest people in the world with very high IQ's come into IM and fail.

Then you have had some people who you would be voted as the least 'likely' to succeed come here and make their legacy's.

Meaning of intelligence: the ability to acquire and apply knowledge and skills.

However, knowledge is just 'Potential Power'.

Good points! If you are not reliable, what can you accomplish?

And who would want to work with you.

You would need at least a modicum of smarts to start with..............

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James Stark

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Sangfroid

What is more important to success:

Intelligence or reliability?

Of course, both are necessary but if you could only
have one in yourself or a partner, which would you take?

Intelligence all the way. You can do anything with a little Intelligence.

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tobyjensen

9 years ago

What is more important to success:

Intelligence or reliability?

Of course, both are necessary but if you could only
have one in yourself or a partner, which would you take?

Intelligence is more important than reliability because if nothing was leading all the reliability in the world would have no place to go. Sounds weird, right? Because reliability is the ability to be counted upon – which means nothing without someone to count on you. What good is being reliable if there is no one smart enough to give you something to rely upon.

Intelligence is a leader.
Reliability is a follower.

If everyone is a follower then we go nowhere but if everyone is a leader then we are alpha’s among alphas.

Another example is creativity as a form of intelligence. Creative people are often known for being erratic, eccentric, unpredictable, blunt, critical, and condescending but when they produce – WATCH OUT! Because the world changes in incredible ways. Would I want to be neighbors with Leonard DaVinci, Picasso , or Tim Burton (Beetlejuice, Edward Scissorhands, etc)? Probably not. Only without this intelligence what need would there be for reliability. It is possible to manage the craziness of intelligence to obtain invention or products to turn over to reliable people. It just isn’t easy so people turn to reliable but then they don’t have any new results.

Creativity (a form of intelligence) comes before even the need of reliability. All current reliability is following great intelligence that came before it.

Be intelligent first, then reliable. Both are needed.

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chaksmiths

9 years ago

Intelligence

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kirbymarketingconcierge 9 years ago

is 1 a noun and the other a verb???

1 is active, the other a state???

just considering that.

I can be relied upon to be there, but don't know if I can help.

I don't know how to get there, so don't rely on me
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Sangfroid 9 years ago

Originally Posted by chaksmiths

Intelligence

Intelligence is great but what value is it if you
can't get anything done.

If you have no discipline or reliability, what can
you accomplish?

Be Well
Don
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Anish Khandelwal

9 years ago

Reliability for sure

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mrhmamun

9 years ago

Of course reliability

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Sangfroid 9 years ago

Originally Posted by mrhmamun

Of course reliability

That is how I see it.

Of course it is nice to have a modicum of smarts.
But I would not hire someone who was always
late, for example. No matter now brilliant.
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