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Please don't flame me, this isn't a trolling thread.

I have been reading books and listening to disc programs in my car on how to set goals, how to reach your goals, how do decide your goals, how to be successful, etc., and the overall message I get is that you have to be passionate about your goal in order to achieve it..

I understand the process of writing them down, and taking action on them every day.......but there should be a precursor to these programs that answers the question......

What if you don't have a passion? How do you get passionate about something, anything?

For example, I enjoy playing the guitar, I enjoy making hunting bows, traditional longbows, and fiberglass recurve bows, I enjoy brewing beer, and wine, I enjoy fishing, hunting, and camping.......I enjoy all of those things, but not one of them is something that I can be 100% passionate about.

I think my mindset is that I enjoy all of these things when I have time to do them, which is after work, and after family, and after household chores, which doesn't leave much time to spend on these things. Without spending much time on them, I would never be able to consider myself an expert on any of them.

How do you become successful in business without a passion for the areas you have experience in? Is it even possible?

For those who never had a burning desire to do just one thing for the rest of your life, have you reached the level of success you desire?

Every goal setting plan that I have come across has started AFTER you have decided on your passion, and never addresses the question of 'what if there is none?'

I know I will get some responses that say 'get out of IM if you don't have passion'.....well I am not really in it anymore as the passion has gone. The question is how to get it, or get it back?

Sorry for the overuse of the word 'passion'

Thanks,
Scott
#finding #passion
  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    ok this goes hand in hand with kenser's post..and you have the right question ..

    you have a collection of skills/hobies that you do in your spare time ..but from listening to guru's and reading the books.. you have been led to believe you should turn one of these into a fulltime business ..

    the work we do that put food on the table and pays the bills ..is a major source of our identity ..

    now put aside what you are passionate about doing for entertainment..and ask yourself if you can mold the skills you have into something that you are passionate doing for paying customers .

    a side business where you custom make bows for people and take them hunting with them ..

    or learn to fish with a bow and arrow and teach other people how lol .. just combine your multiple past times ..and keep it on the side .. untill you have something you feel can be done full time .
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    • Profile picture of the author ScottieScott
      Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

      now put aside what you are passionate about doing for entertainment..and ask yourself if you can mold the skills you have into something that you are passionate doing for paying customers .
      Herein lies the problem, I enjoy doing those things when I have time....it takes my mind off of my full time job and helps me relax...but do I have a 'passion' for them? Would I rather be doing those things more than anything else in the world? I can't say that I would.

      The question isn't how to create a business out of ones passion.....the question is how do you get passionate about something when you just aren't?

      How do you find your passion when you just don't have one?

      Does that make sense?
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      • Profile picture of the author ColossusMedia
        Originally Posted by ScottieScott View Post


        The question isn't how to create a business out of ones passion.....the question is how do you get passionate about something when you just aren't?

        How do you find your passion when you just don't have one?

        Does that make sense?
        Just a few thought on my mind about your questions. Trying to get passionate about something that you are not is probably like pulling a flower to try to make it grow.

        I found a new passion at the age of 32. I found it because I tried something new. It was totally unexpected. I believe I will find other passions this way.

        Also you could ask yourself what you would do if you were multimillionaire and had no need to work anymore. I answered this question seriously. Again the answer surprised me and gave me something to think about.
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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    what it is a lot of successfull people actually have multiple things they do ..

    there are three parts of a business making the thing selling the thing , and tracking the money .

    which area areyou more passionate about . then get people passionate about the other two
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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    ok here is another formula ..

    when you are at your job..what are the thing you enjoy doing ..that make you want to do a good job..what are the thing that interest you about the work you already do ..

    when you do anything what elements make you want to do them well or get better at doing it
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  • Profile picture of the author nurz
    It’s true that people should have the passion to pursue a venture if they want it to succeed but that also mean that even if you don’t have the burning desire, you can still succeed if you set your mind into your goals. I think the reason why you are confused is because you know a lot of things and you are torn whether or not you will pursue just one or pursue them all. I suggest you pick one interest that you think will be most lucrative than the rest and focus on it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    i have spent three or four years finding my own answer too that question .. as 3-4 years ago my life was a complete mess and it had been that way for many years .

    now read this how you will.

    there are few thing really almost nothing that i am passionate about doing ..but when i know what i need to do..i know many ways to set ihow things get done so that the process can be passion filled and motivating .

    if i can set something up that way ..i don't really want to do it.

    but i am different tan you so my list of things that motivate and bring me passion is different than yours .

    well even once you start compiling this list ..

    ok when you do something what motivate you to do it well and want to do it better.. and what thing frustrate you and make you not want to do thing ..
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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    you do not ..and should not build your business around something you are passionate about now ..unless it is something that whacks you upside the head and lights a fire in your heart to do..but not many people actually get that one .

    the problem with things you are passionate about..is they tend to change every few years as you get older and change ..and many things you once where passionate about ..really do not do it for you any more .

    but when you figure out what bring out your drive ..you can look for thing that in the process of doing ..tap into what drives you ..

    so the answer is to not focus on a thing that makes you passionate ..but again.. figure the way you do things that make you passionate to do anything ..even stuff you do not like doing .

    how do you do a good job ..and what do you really want when you do a good or great job ..

    what brings you personal satisfaction..and what reward do you prefer from others..beyond money
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
    Hi Scott,

    If you enjoy them, they are passions It's just that since you may believe that being passionate about some activity means that you are on fire about it, that you live, breathe and sleep it, well, you may mistake these activities for not being passions. They are! The issue is in diving in. Once you pick one thing you enjoy and run with it, the fire grows. Your attention and energy makes that passion expand and then, you'll be more consumed by it.

    How to choose?

    You know Seriously though, all of us have 1 or 2 things we enjoy doing more than anything. Find that 1 thing, or go with 2, then narrow things down and you'll understand what your true passion is. We all have more than a few but that narrowing down may take a little time and energy. For me, I needed to patiently take stock of what really moved me, to get serious about my online gig. Blogging and travel, I worked them together to create Blogging from Paradise.

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  • Profile picture of the author ScottieScott
    I suppose that an interest that I have can turn into a passion, but even if it doesn't, I would need to decide if there is ENOUGH interest, as well as assess the viability of that niche, to pursue it as an income channel.

    It is kind of refreshing to hear that some of you folks may not be on fire about your niche, yet you are still seeing success.

    Thank you all for your help.
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  • Profile picture of the author AixenPixel
    I think what you might need is a personal motivation and goals. Sorry to sound so simple, I don't want to irk you, it's just that, Hmmm. As a linguist I get burnt out time to time from doing too much language learning. I think you might just have to take a break and remind yourself of your old passion!

    Sometimes we need to take a break, let it ride for a while!
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    • Profile picture of the author ScottieScott
      I do know that I have been working a lot of hours at my job that pays the bills, and when I have free time, I don't feel like doing anything at all. I am trying to cut back at work a bit....maybe then I will have the energy to start doing the things I like to do again, and build a business around those things.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
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    Sometimes passion develops as you begin working on something. You don't have to be pumped up like Tony Robbins, just something (like Ryan mentioned) that you enjoy and/or interested in working on. For instance maybe you would enjoy writing Blog posts about a subject that interests you.


    As the late, great Gary Halbert said:
    "Movement creates more momentum than meditation."


    Good luck. : )
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    Originally Posted by ScottieScott View Post

    And the overall message I get is that you have to be passionate about your goal in order to achieve it.

    (That's simply not true ...)

    All you have to do is take the necessary actions and you will accomplish your goal. You don't even have to be "motivated." (Just disciplined). Of course if you are passionate about your goal you will be more likely to accomplish it as it will make the process easier.
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  • Profile picture of the author ceeczar
    Originally Posted by ScottieScott View Post

    Please don't flame me, this isn't a trolling thread.

    I have been reading books and listening to disc programs in my car on how to set goals, how to reach your goals, how do decide your goals, how to be successful, etc., and the overall message I get is that you have to be passionate about your goal in order to achieve it..

    I understand the process of writing them down, and taking action on them every day.......but there should be a precursor to these programs that answers the question......

    What if you don't have a passion? How do you get passionate about something, anything?

    For example, I enjoy playing the guitar, I enjoy making hunting bows, traditional longbows, and fiberglass recurve bows, I enjoy brewing beer, and wine, I enjoy fishing, hunting, and camping.......I enjoy all of those things, but not one of them is something that I can be 100% passionate about.

    I think my mindset is that I enjoy all of these things when I have time to do them, which is after work, and after family, and after household chores, which doesn't leave much time to spend on these things. Without spending much time on them, I would never be able to consider myself an expert on any of them.

    How do you become successful in business without a passion for the areas you have experience in? Is it even possible?

    For those who never had a burning desire to do just one thing for the rest of your life, have you reached the level of success you desire?

    Every goal setting plan that I have come across has started AFTER you have decided on your passion, and never addresses the question of 'what if there is none?'

    I know I will get some responses that say 'get out of IM if you don't have passion'.....well I am not really in it anymore as the passion has gone. The question is how to get it, or get it back?

    Sorry for the overuse of the word 'passion'

    Thanks,
    Scott

    Thank you for sharing this.

    Let's look at this together:

    So many times we allow people tell us how to live
    our lives, without even thinking for ourselves.

    Like this "passion" thing.

    Who says you need a "passion" to succeed?

    What does it even mean to "succeed"?

    And why should anyone tell you what it means to
    succeed?

    I think you should first find out for yourself
    what success means for YOU. It may not be what
    everybody else thinks.

    When you define what success is for you, you will
    have a better idea of what you can do to achieve
    it.

    Cheers!
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