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Is it worth it to work 13hrs a day through out the business cycle? or should there be more balance in a our work, social, leisure hours?
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  • Profile picture of the author Shana_Adam
    Yes balance is key. I guess if you have a major project that needs attention then for a few days or week focus on that. however longterm its not a key strategy.

    Whats the point making money if your health suffers or your relationships become strained.

    A good point would be to outsource the mundane tasks - free up time to focus on your overall long term goals and values.

    I have not read the book yet completely but Tim Ferris the author of the 4hour work week gives a great view on how to have all the time in the world with productivity increased by outsourcing
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  • Profile picture of the author wisecrone333
    I thought sixteen hour days were acceptable until my doctor told me I had a heart attack that I had been too busy to notice - now time with my family, my husband and the great outdoors have all become more important to me.

    Balance is the key - because money is worth anything if you don't have a life and people to share it with

    Best wishes
    Lisa
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    • Profile picture of the author addison.agnote
      Originally Posted by wisecrone333 View Post

      I thought sixteen hour days were acceptable until my doctor told me I had a heart attack that I had been too busy to notice - now time with my family, my husband and the great outdoors have all become more important to me.

      Balance is the key - because money is worth anything if you don't have a life and people to share it with

      Best wishes
      Lisa

      That's true. The money you earn is useless if it will cost your health or life.
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  • Profile picture of the author BloggerDownUnder
    Hi balance is the key!

    I agree Tim Ferris' book is excellent. Try to focus on what must be done to move towards your goals...not want you sometimes like to do. I switch of my email and review it twice a day so I do not get interrupted.

    Consider outsourcing some of the admin tasks that you hate to do. Best of luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jozep
    Yes balance is important, but atleast my balance is sesonal somehow. Nowdays I am enjoying working 12-14 hours a day with a computer. I feel the backpain though.
    As fishing season comes I will work far less then my balance will include less working.
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  • Profile picture of the author developerholic
    It is ok for me to work over than 12 hours a day if I love what I do and earn from it at the same time. Definitely worth it!
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  • Profile picture of the author Igor Kheifets
    Originally Posted by bethennyengland View Post

    Is it worth it to work 13hrs a day through out the business cycle? or should there be more balance in a our work, social, leisure hours?
    No, you are damaging your productivity that way.

    I do not know how much hours a day you should
    work, but 8-13 to me is simply too much.

    I quit my 9 to 5 so I don't have to work long hours
    and I tend not to exceed 5/day.

    ~Igor
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    • Profile picture of the author Jozep
      Originally Posted by igorhelpsyousucceed View Post

      No, you are damaging your productivity that way.

      I do not know how much hours a day you should
      work, but 8-13 to me is simply too much.

      I quit my 9 to 5 so I don't have to work long hours
      and I tend not to exceed 5/day.

      ~Igor
      It is not easy to earn a living with 5 hours a week or needs quite a financial investment. Are you living from internet marketing wit 5 hours a day?
      Very impressive, I'd also like to have such a work life balance for myself.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tracey_Meagher
    Time passes so quickly on a computer. Often I put in 15 hour days but it feels nothing like that ... I wish I could have more balance but when you're trying to establish yourself online, it sometime demands everything you can give ... AND MORE!
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    • Profile picture of the author dynameek
      Originally Posted by Tracey_Meagher View Post

      Time passes so quickly on a computer. Often I put in 15 hour days but it feels nothing like that ... I wish I could have more balance but when you're trying to establish yourself online, it sometime demands everything you can give ... AND MORE!
      I completely agree with you on that. When you're a start up company building on a business idea (or you just need to make more money doing conventional jobs) there's that tendancy to work long hours. I do this too and I've heard of people who did it until they made it.

      I plan to cut down my working hours as things get better for me. That way I can concentrate on other things that interest me. So, the bottom line is, if you can avoid it, work for as little hours as you can and stay healthy because you need your health if you must keep working.
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  • Profile picture of the author rbabi18
    Minimize your stress because that is the real killer. Forget the money, your health is much much more important. One of my friends has a mother who has had MS for about 25 years and has been in a wheelchair the same amount of time. They are incredibly rich but they would trade it all for her health back. I feel very confident that whatever you do, you will keep your calm and remember what is important, yourself.
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  • Profile picture of the author casestudykev
    balance no

    physical and social health yes

    every successful person I know is unbalanced

    if you think about it, working 40 hours a week is very unbalanced
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  • Profile picture of the author MaggieDavid
    I believe in balance. Outsource as much of the work you can especially the mundane, that way you will progress faster. Also you become tired and stale working that many hours per day. Your private life and social life must not suffer - after all money without those to share it with is useless. How about your health? Exercise, meditation and play create a healthier you.

    Focus whilst your working, draw up a list, tick off as you go.

    Live Life, Laugh, play - as to soon the hours, days and weeks go by!
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  • Profile picture of the author hayfj
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    Question is, just how profitable is your time, and are you allocating your time on the right marketing activities?

    Write down your answer for each question, then follow the instructions at the bottom.

    Q1. How many hours do you spend each week ONLINE?
    Q2. How many hours do you spend each week on the phone speaking to people?
    Q3. How many hours do you spend each week writing emails/letters & proposals?
    Q4. How many hours do you spend each week at 121s and appointments?
    Q5. How mahy hours do you spend each week at networking breakfasts or events?

    ADD UP YOUR TOTAL HOURS

    NOW MULTIPLY YOUR ANSWER BY 4 (to get a monthly total)

    NOW MULTIPLY THAT ANSWER BY YOUR HOURLY RATE

    (This will show you how much your TIME is really costing you, and how much you are wasting on poor or ineffective marketng.)

    Hope it helps

    SHOCKED? You should be. The majority of people just dont realise how much time they are wasting.

    Regards



    Fraser
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  • Profile picture of the author articlemaddness
    Most business owners work an excess of 8 hours a day to start.
    I can spent 15 hours or 2 hours on the computer as time becomes irrelevant.
    Just remember that life is more than work and you should put some time aside for yourself, family and friends. At the very least stretch your legs and walk away from the job for a few moments once every hour. -good for your brain cells :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author Launder
    Balance, I really need to work that in somewhere along the line. Thirteen hours is just too much each day, and I'm exceeding that by a great deal I'm sure.
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    • Profile picture of the author submit_articles
      When i have new projects coming up, it's 13 to 15 hrs each day.
      Then after the project, I tend to take some rest...so about 5 to 8 hrs each day.
      On a normal day, I put in about 8 to 10 hrs.

      Time flies when you are doing something that you like. I spend lots of time on the Internet creating new and useful sites, so I don't feel like it's work.

      It's work, but it's also fun at the same time, if you get my drift.

      And yes, I agree that stress is the killer. But if you are enjoying your work, then there should be little stress. I also outsource whenever possible.

      I make less money coz I pay others, but I also get more of my time back. Time is my most precious commodity.
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      • Profile picture of the author Marcel Hartmann
        I find about 3-4 hours a night to do this. I have a real job that I hope to vanquish within 12 months.
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  • Profile picture of the author carlwilson
    I think it depend on the people, there are some that are used of working long hours a day. For as long as he watch his health and he enjoys what his been doing, then it's okay.
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    • Profile picture of the author rocketmail009
      Its true that it varies from person to person,I spend only 3 to 4 hours
      We should give time on other aspects of life.
      Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author stillstranger
    To all NEWBIES! WARNING!

    When I started my IM journey I knew I won't be able to outsource at all, lack of stable income showed me this way. I'd to invest my time, and educate myself. Very soon (I would say too soon) I've found myself addicted to PC, html/java, phoshop etc.

    I don't know how bad other addiction can be but this one is bad enough to ruin your health! And one of victims is me, here on WF! If you ask me - Why - I tell you cos I'm UNEMPLOYBLE.
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  • Profile picture of the author JakeRhodes
    Originally Posted by bethennyengland View Post

    Is it worth it to work 13hrs a day through out the business cycle? or should there be more balance in a our work, social, leisure hours?
    It's certainly do-able if you're an introvert and have a strong drive to succeed.

    I've been working 12 hour days 7 days a week for the last three months. I had to take my first day off yesterday because I was feeling run down but other than that I've had no problems. The key is to make the most of those few hours when you're not working.

    For example I spend 30 to 60 minutes walking my dog in the local park, and I talk to other dog walkers I knew getting in some social activity. I'd also record TV I want to watch which works out at maybe one or two shows a day then watch them while working our on my exercise bike.

    If you do choose to go this route then you need to maximize the little spare time you have. Also don't be afraid to take the occasional day off if you're feeling burnt our, or maybe even reduce your working hours for a few days until you're feeling energized again.
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  • Profile picture of the author dynameek
    Originally Posted by idesignbanner.com View Post

    There should be gaps to relax.

    Continuous working is harmful in my opinion and can make a person stressful.
    That's right. There's more tendancies of high stress level and back injuries when working long hours over and over again. Rest is good and will help one become more productive.
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  • Profile picture of the author ponting786
    Originally Posted by bethennyengland View Post

    Is it worth it to work 13hrs a day through out the business cycle? or should there be more balance in a our work, social, leisure hours?
    Hi....bethennyengland!
    Well to me,money is not everything.Its fact that earning requires working but there should be balance because to me spending time with family is one of the precious things in the world.
    continuous working for long hours can be harmful to your health.
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  • Profile picture of the author tsboss1
    I myself feel like I spend to much time working in front of the computer but I think as I get more established, I will be able to outsource things and spend more time doing other things I would like to do.
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  • Many people are talking about balance here but I think
    you're all DEAD WRONG!

    Relax...

    Let me explain :

    I'm in the middle of reading a fantabulous book
    by James Arthur Ray called Harmonic Wealth.

    In the book, he talks about how balance is wrong!

    I don't know about you but when I think of the
    word "balance", I think of 2 hours for family, 2 hours
    for business, 2 hours for relaxation etc.

    Balance is NOT the answer!

    Harmony is..

    And I've begun living my life like that right now and I've
    got to say that I'm surprised that I actually feel more
    fulfilled!

    So, if you value your financial pillar and maybe that
    constitutes 60% of your life, then put 60% of
    your attention on that chosen intention.

    If 60% is towards relationships, then put 60%
    of your attention on that chosen intention.

    I think while we're all in this forum to make money,
    we need to realize that our ultimate outcome is to
    be happy.

    "Isn't NOW the time to be happy?"
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  • Profile picture of the author morry
    Even though I run a site called the Six Day Weekend, I'm a bit of a workaholic sometimes. Sometimes I don't give myself a day off for a few weeks, then other times I take a few weeks completely off.

    Personally, I like doing this stuff, so it's not like it's work. I like to throw myself at whatever I'm doing. Sometimes I think you need to work really hard for short periods of time in order to get your goals achieved quicker.

    Once you've got things setup, then you can take more time off if you want, but you can't grow a company to the million dollar level while being a bum.

    Sean
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  • Profile picture of the author olu peters
    resting time is a refreshing time. even God rested after the creation of the earth.
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  • Originally Posted by bethennyengland View Post

    Is it worth it to work 13hrs a day through out the business cycle? or should there be more balance in a our work, social, leisure hours?
    Sometimes I am in such a cycle to work even more than 13 hours a day.

    However I think the balance is very important and no matter how much I work I try to pay attention to mine body, family, wife etc.
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    • Hi, bethennyengland. I hope you wouldn't mind if I post here what I told Lucie in his thread. It's about health, achieving the right balance in life, and essentially taking good care of one of your most important business tools: your body.

      Here's my story:

      My business is my life. Or, so I thought. I was determined to make it a success that I said, "The tougher, the better. At least when I hit rock bottom, I know what to do." So I tried hard every single day, making sure that I can't miss a detail. And, for a writer, details mean everything. I worked to please my clients. And, because my clients live halfway around the globe, I changed my schedule. I literally make days to nights. I live differently. Even if I live with my parents (yes, we Asians love to make sure that the family stay together), it is as if they live with a stranger.

      Then, everything turned for the worse. My body gave up. I became sick, unable to concentrate and write. Instead of listening, I became committed to working harder. Pushing myself to the limits. I simply thought, "My mind is stronger." And, that's when I understand the true meaning of limits - and , that the body can only take so much.

      Today, I am hoping I know better. I prioritize health and take care of my body. Because it deserves only better.

      I hope this helps. The best of luck. Namaste.
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  • Profile picture of the author WhiteCanvasPro
    I definitely believe in balancing. Working to long of hours can affect other areas of your life. I always set a time where I quit working, no matter where I'm at. That way, I'm sure to let my brain relax.
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  • Profile picture of the author ELCaD
    I work very long days (often up to 16-18 hours) but the way I see it is that if I sacrifice personal time now then things will get done quicker meaning I will have more time to live comfortably and have personal time in the future.
    Of course, if it starts to affect my health then I will change my ways but for now I am happy to carry on. Also, I really enjoy doing what I do so it isn't the usual stress of a job, rather the enjoyment of a hobby.
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  • Profile picture of the author magnates
    Originally Posted by bethennyengland View Post

    Is it worth it to work 13hrs a day through out the business cycle? or should there be more balance in a our work, social, leisure hours?
    the short answer is Yes >work now while you are still strong and able to work

    A time would come when you are not able to work and completely dependent on others and the truth is ... We are designed to work ; To put effort ; to apply ourselves

    If you don't work and sleep all day you would feel more tired

    if you work all day and do not rest at all , you would feel tired as well

    You are designed to work . Some days would require you to work as long as 13hrs a day . it happens in business . Some seasons are like that

    Keep going

    Much Love

    Femi
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  • Profile picture of the author jacobcowen
    IF you love what you are doing, I believe that the number of hours you spend doing it doesn't matter. Especially when you're on your way to achieving it.
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