Why Law of Attraction doesn't work

by kursat
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Don't know...do you think it works.

I certainly have some experiences with it. And I do hope there is a way of making it work but most of the time I think, I am more on the "need" mode than the "want" one. Any tips?

The weird part of my belief on this is some of the stuff that I think I manifest unconsciously.

An example one was couple of months ago, when I was designing a website for a client. The project was for a type of dog that I never heard of before. After checking this dog was also very rare in the region where we live.

Story is, it was 4 am and after calling it a day, I made a drink and sat outside on the balcony, only to see 2 guys walking one of these dogs across the road. I was almost shocked.

Coincidence - may be? Did I just created that scene? No idea... Definitely want to hear your manifestation stories and tips if you have any...Cheers!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mr Bill
    This discussion has been had countless of times. Not sure if you edited your post but you didn't make a case for why you think the law of attraction doesn't work. Your dog story is interesting but coincidence isn't really what LOA is trying to promote in my opinion. At least I don't think that's what they're trying to promote. I could be wrong.

    The law of attraction works if you think about what you want and then start taking steps towards it. It "works" because as you start to take action based on what you think you want you start to have more experiences that will push you along your path. For example, if you "think and wish" you could make money on the stock market you might start to look up doing a course or become interested in a conversation you come across. You start to move your interests toward that which you desire. I'm pretty sure that only a minuscule fraction of the people who've watched The Secret actually believe that thinking of money (or dogs or anything) will "magically" produce it.

    I think it's become generally accepted that the real subtext to The Secret was that if you want to achieve something, think and focus on what you want then start moving and taking action or steps in that direction. I and many who have discussed it have accepted that it's generally a metaphor for thoughts plus action have a stronger possibility of coming true than just wishing and doing nothing about it.

    Personally I think it might as well be called The Law Of Action. It's pretty hard to go and do something without thinking about it first. There might be "magical/invisible/unfathomable" forces in the universe but I tend to think that if there is it's in our brains capacity to imagine and send commands to our limbs to take action and do something about it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Net 700
    The LOA simply doesn't exist. If you want to make a change then be that change.
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    • Profile picture of the author kimanierick
      Originally Posted by Net 700 View Post

      The LOA simply doesn't exist. If you want to make a change then be that change.
      It do exists dear! See its all about positive thinking, after all everything around us, including billions of humans were started with nothing but a mere thought!
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      • Profile picture of the author Net 700
        Originally Posted by kimanierick View Post

        It do exists dear! See its all about positive thinking, after all everything around us, including billions of humans were started with nothing but a mere thought!
        Well that means that thoughts are powerful, nothing to do with LOA. It's their damn brain cells that did that.
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  • Profile picture of the author CaRTmAnBrAh
    The LOA DOES work! Every year on the 24th of December I lie in bed for hours simply wishing for all the things I want, and when I wake, THERE they all are, in a SACK, at the bottom of my bed! Hella YES! Thanks LOA!
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    • Profile picture of the author Mr Bill
      Originally Posted by CaRTmAnBrAh View Post

      The LOA DOES work! Every year on the 24th of December I lie in bed for hours simply wishing for all the things I want, and when I wake, THERE they all are, in a SACK, at the bottom of my bed! Hella YES! Thanks LOA!
      Ha, too funny.
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
      Originally Posted by CaRTmAnBrAh View Post

      The LOA DOES work! Every year on the 24th of December I lie in bed for hours simply wishing for all the things I want, and when I wake, THERE they all are, in a SACK, at the bottom of my bed! Hella YES! Thanks LOA!
      Day of the Testicles!
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  • Profile picture of the author art72
    Being that I have been listening to Earl Nightingale's "Direct Line" all week, I feel my outlook is more positive, and my focus is clearer.

    However, there too is something known as (RAS) the Reticular Activation System built-in to our brain that I believe explains it a little better than the LOA philosophy.

    The (RAS) is simple. It operates silently in your mind, until you gravitate toward or attain a specific goal.

    For example, a few years back - I built a "Mobile Detailing Service" for my son and myself to work together, and build a small offline business.

    When the intial idea hit me, I knew there were others doing "mobile detailing services"- of course, we were not the first.

    But... Once we started the business, and took to the road, my (RAS) kicked in, and *everywhere* I looked there were "mobile detailing" businesses. I mean, I started seeing upwards of 5 or more per day... literally!!!

    So, in this "experience" which you may notice when you buy a certain car, the same make or model car *appears* more frequently.... or when you take a specific interest in something like "internet marketing" techniques for example... You start seeing more of the same... Everywhere!!!

    I personally think, our minds navigate towards that which we seek an interest in -automatically, even if we don't consciously realize it.

    So if you're mind is fixed on say "a corvette" then you start seeing more corvettes.

    Therefore, whatever your dominate conscious thoughts are, be them positive or negative... You tend to manifest more awareness towards the dominate thought, and therefore "experience" (or recognize) more of that which you "think about".

    So, despite my ability to fully invest in the all-consuming positive found in philosophies and teachings liken to, or in alignment with the LOA... I do believe we become what we predominantly feed into our minds, as a natural response to the manner which the human mind works.

    Unfortunately, if you are experiencing a rash of negative shit in your life, and your thoughts contain worry, anxiety, fear, anger, etc... It can too consume you, and produce the (RAS) whereby your mind will keep "showing" more of that result... because YOU are in essence "asking" for that experience to continue.

    (RAS) just makes sense...

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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    Originally Posted by kursat View Post

    Don't know...do you think it works.

    I certainly have some experiences with it. And I do hope there is a way of making it work but most of the time I think, I am more on the "need" mode than the "want" one. Any tips?

    The weird part of my belief on this is some of the stuff that I think I manifest unconsciously.

    An example one was couple of months ago, when I was designing a website for a client. The project was for a type of dog that I never heard of before. After checking this dog was also very rare in the region where we live.

    Story is, it was 4 am and after calling it a day, I made a drink and sat outside on the balcony, only to see 2 guys walking one of these dogs across the road. I was almost shocked.

    Coincidence - may be? Did I just created that scene? No idea... Definitely want to hear your manifestation stories and tips if you have any...Cheers!
    bah the law of attraction works ..but doesn't obey your demands ..and it may give you what you want..but like the story i read in school about some little idol that gave three wishes ..the wishes where granted .. but they where not granted pleasantly ..

    in my case .. gosh .. i was going to get rich and find me an amazingly beutiful gold digger ..

    now i'm still poor technically ..if you look at my income and assets i have my wealth building plan developing ..and i had to get my health together ..

    now i had a bit of money last year and took a trip to the philippines ..and met my gold digger ..well she doesn't like me saying that but ..she is very poor and very pretty didn't finish highschool.. and was a watress at a restraunt ..working 60 hours a week earning about 25 dollars a week....and i had a girlfriend at the time ..but she had had a long list of want .. and she eyed me like she had found the way to get them ..and i picked that up about her just the way she looked at me ..because i had it in my head this was the type of woman i would eventually have ..

    a few day later my girlfreind left ..and i started eating at this resteraunt twice a day ..untill this girl who didn't speak english well.. started chatting with me on facebook .. because she was shy to talk to me at work and i never got her outside of the resteraunt ,,

    jumping ahead a 16 months to now .. this woman has managed to stay focused on me being the one despite my many attempts to convince her to move on.. and find someone already rich ..

    now in reality i just need to make about 4-5 times what i make right now ..which even then i would not be rich ..to fill her list of wants ..i am making a little money now which is much more than the no money i was making for a few years while taking care of my elderly parents in the last few years of there life ,.. and this year i did make 5 times what i worked to earn last year ,, but multiplying small amounts is easy ..

    anyway now i have to fucus on building a busines and building wealth.. and getting enough money to be with this woman and take care of her want ,,

    so right now the law of attraction is providing me huge motivation to identify and build the business that make it possible ..

    the law of attraction works..but it still leave a good chunk of work in your hands to do.
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
      The coincidences are called syncronicities.

      From a religious standpoint, the closer you get to the truth, the more wild and fascinating they become.


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      • Profile picture of the author Alex II
        The "Law of Attraction" simply is the universe. It's not just a "law" like you are not allowed to drink until you are 18/21 years old. And it doesn't work like it has been presented in "the secret". Just to think about something and then getting it is silly.

        However, there certainly IS a greater power or whatever you want to call it.

        Looking back at the Law of Attraction and how to make it work for you...
        Say you want to be rich. Well, first you need to know hom much money would make you rich? And secondly you'd need to define a timeframe. Just that would get you a lot closer towards your goal, because it just became a lot more real.
        So, let's say you want to make $1'000'000 by 31st december 2016.
        Next step is you must not just want that, but you must desire it. And you have to make up your mind that it is real. You have to believe that you will make it.
        First your mind will tell you 100 ways why you can't make it. You must resist and keep focus on that you will make it. Soon your mind will give in - it will start to accept it, seeing as it can't convince you not to do it. Now the "Law of Attraction" starts to work. Your mind will now - and only after you got rid of any limiting beliefs - start to find ways to make it happen.
        Will you have 1 mio. by next year? Maybe not, maybe you'll have more, maybe less, but you'll be a lot closer to your goal.

        The secret had it wrong as in you just sit there and think you want to be rich and by magic you will become rich.
        But by having DESIRE and DETERMINATION your mind will simply give in and start to figure out how to make it happen.
        And then you will have to actually make it happen.

        Really like this interview of Jim Carrey: https://youtu.be/DXwVD2ncqfE
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  • Profile picture of the author Believe In You
    The LOA entails RI (remote influence) so it is made for outlaws. Don't take this topic for granted, there's some sort of sorcery/remote hypnosis involved and is achieved by bypassing subconscious security of a person you want to be influenced.
    Yet is heavily promoted and packaged in a way that appeals to the masses.
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    • Profile picture of the author kursat
      Originally Posted by Believe In You View Post

      The LOA entails RI (remote influence) so it is made for outlaws. Don't take this topic for granted, there's some sort of sorcery/remote hypnosis involved and is achieved by bypassing subconscious security of a person you want to be influenced.
      Yet is heavily promoted and packaged in a way that appeals to the masses.
      Could you please explain more...or may be give some resources to what you think it is.?

      Is this like some of the TV ads we watch with messages that only our brain register but our eyes don't see and our ears don't hear
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      • Profile picture of the author Believe In You
        Originally Posted by kursat View Post

        Could you please explain more...or may be give some resources to what you think it is.?

        Is this like some of the TV ads we watch with messages that only our brain register but our eyes don't see and our ears don't hear
        CIA Hypnosis and Mind Control Remote Influencing - Pakclips.com - HD Video Youtube Clips Download in Pakistan {secret services using remote influence and viewing to extract information remotely by entering a hypnotic state of mind and infiltrate within}

        Develop Extra Sensory Abilities & Super Powers with Hypnosis } the site responsible for bringing this technology online. He's been a victim of RI and decided enough is enough so he made a program to counter the attacks and influence just about anybody. Posted a vid recently where some solid info is revealed.

        The LOA is misinterpreted as something sort of innocuous but there are underlying principles that tie down to the glowing fact that other covert methods are being used - surreptitiously.

        Nothing to do with subliminal ads btw.
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  • Profile picture of the author speigo
    The Law of Attraction is fundamentally pretty straight forward. It is an alternative way of saying we are products of our environment. If we surround ourselves with successful people we are likely to be successful and if we surround ourselves with losers then we will become the same.

    This is proven repeatedly with simple thought processes and/or other environmental influences. If you come from an abusive environment then you will likely be an abuser simply because it is what you have come to know as normal. And we all see ourselves as normal.

    The way to get a sense of this for yourself is to write down the names of the eight to ten people you spend the most time with. Document the attributes you believe are important like how they manage money, their ability to communicate with others, how and if they demonstrate respect, what their aspirations are. You will start to see a pattern and you will basically be describing yourself. You are a composite of your environment and the world reacts to you in a consistent manner.

    I am not suggesting you abandon your friends or family. However, if they do not represent what you are trying to accomplish for your life I would say identify those people that are and begin spending more time with them.

    Years ago I had a roommate that ridiculed me for trading in my jeans for a business suit and establishing friendships with successful professionals. He accused me of trying to be something I wasn’t…… he was right. Today he is still working manual jobs and I have enjoyed the professional success that I was after.

    The Law of Attraction is real. It requires self-awareness, a desire to change, and the discipline to see it through.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mr Bill
      Originally Posted by speigo View Post

      The Law of Attraction is fundamentally pretty straight forward. It is an alternative way of saying we are products of our environment...
      I agree but would add..."It is an alternative way of saying we are products of our environment"..., thinking and actions. Sometimes our environment is out of our direct control so it's our thinking and actions that shape our lives and who we are.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andrew Fox
    Don't you ever try RI because it can drain your energy and next day you'll wander like a zombie. It requires ungodly amounts of psychic energy and you better focus on more run of the mill stuff like your day job and friendships.
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  • Profile picture of the author George Flm
    It's quite bizarre that more people deem the Cosmic Master Hypernoesis as an entity to whom they believe in to ascertain new habits, transcend to another level of consciousness and use this form of influence to reprogram the mind.

    The underlying consensus behind the success of these programs is that they force the mind to operate in certain frequencies thus increasing intuition and ESP abilities, hence the term "hypernoesis" or hyper intelligence.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dante II
      Originally Posted by George Flm View Post

      It's quite bizarre that more people deem the Cosmic Master Hypernoesis as an entity to whom they believe in to ascertain new habits, transcend to another level of consciousness and use this form of influence to reprogram the mind.

      The underlying consensus behind the success of these programs is that they force the mind to operate in certain frequencies thus increasing intuition and ESP abilities, hence the term "hypernoesis" or hyper intelligence.
      The Cosmic Master works for me without chanting or wearing sandals or the casual LOA mambo jumbo. Simply plug in and sense the transformation occur down to the core. I have a huge grin after each session, energized from the get-go.
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  • Profile picture of the author allanrsm
    The way the Law of Attraction is related to in this day and age one would think we are reviewing a Peter Pan story with Tinkerbell waving fairy dust everywhere.

    The Law of Attraction only works when it is preceded by the Law of Vibration which is when get specific about a goal, get emotionally involved in that goals and pursue that goal with faith, expectancy and enthusiasm

    The LA of Attraction requires a significant amount of persistent and efficient action in order for anything to manifest.

    The manifestation comes through results earned.
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  • Profile picture of the author art72
    While I cannot specifically relate to the various sources mentioned above... I am of the opinion that it boils down to 80% bullshit, 20% truth...

    The hard part is being able to see beyond the 80% and conclude that 20% or less of mankind actually is in pursuit of their true desires, needs, wants, aspirations, etc...

    And as such, those who seek, tend to find that which they feel they need.

    Meanwhile, the larger majority remains content, in their comfort zone, scared shitless to venture beyond the security or comforts of daily routine.

    Breaking those routines requires risk, courage, determination, and fueling your mind to attain results at any, and/or all costs.

    Call it what you will... It requires an open mind, optomism, and the decision to pursue the dominating thoughts in your mind.

    Sadly, the majority sit on their ass at the base of lifes majestic mountain (in the valley) waiting for some miracle to move them, carry them, or hold their hand and show them the way.

    Most think the mountain is too steep, requires too much risk, time, energy, and resources...

    Never to accept, acknowledge, or stand accountable for the outcome of sitting in the valley... Mocking the impossible.

    While I do believe there are ways to "unlock" our fears... I believe too that it is not attained by some "secret" or "government only" programming.

    Instead, we have plenty of real people who've attained understanding, knowledge, and wisdom simply by "quieting their mind" and being receptive to what can only be considered (by the majority) as a mysterious pressence within.

    If I ventured to guess "where" that mysterious pressence communicates information outside the normal reach, my best guess would be "our minds".

    If the spirit of being speaks... It does so on a frequency only our brain can access, and that is an effort many refuse to exercise... As can be achieved through simple meditation practices and training ourselves to be receptive to the information our mind has access to.

    So, no matter how you slice it... Hypnosis, IR, LOA, so-called "Secret", and all other pyschic masters will almost always agree... You need only to believe it to conceive it, and ultimately achieve it.

    Sadly effort requires sacrifice... And despite what many wise men risked sharing their insights... They saw beyond themselves, which predicates understanding, or to "stand under" a greater knowledge.

    Clearly, as beings... We cannot possibly think we are "locked out" or "denied" access to any intelligence we seek. But, trying to convince edgewise... That my friends is a tough sale to make, as the "experience" is obtained in the pursuit NOT found in any one book or teaching.

    If you look deeper, you'll often find... The wise are all saying the same thing in diffent tongues, different times, and in essence are of one "universal truth".

    Unfortunately, we cannot package it under any one label. For to add "God", "The Source", the goofy youtube evil clown voice so many find as their "Almighty One" only brings division, doubt, fear, and questions our integral beliefs to "rethink" even "reshape" our thoughts in a more "neutral" and "non-bias" teaching that doesn't spill blood to unite us!!!

    Just a thought!

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  • Profile picture of the author mrobertm61
    LOA is one the most misunderstood things out there. A lot of that can be attributed to "The Secret" which did LOA a lot of disservice.

    Here is the scientific or physiological basis of LOA. You have your conscious mind and your unconscious mind. Your conscious mind is the part that does all your rational thinking and logical thinking. When you make a decision it is in the conscious mind.

    Your conscious mind is also a filter. It can only process about 40 bits of information per second and it is bombarded with much more than that so it filters out most of the information you receive. One of the ways it decides what information to filter and what to process is based on your self-concepts which are in your unconscious mind.

    Your self-concepts or beliefs have been developed since your inception and development of the autonomic nervous system. It is developed by experiences, thoughts and what people tell you. If information is consistent with your self-concept the conscious mind will process it. If it is not consistent the conscious mind will most likely filter it out.

    Examples of this are when you buy a new car - all of the sudden you notice there are a lot of cars out there similar to the car you just purchased. Those cars where always out there but they weren't part of your self-concept until you purchased one now they are no longer being filtered out. Many women report that when they become pregnant they start noticing there are a lot of other pregnant women out there. In your case you were working on this project about this dog it had become part of your unconscious self and now your conscious mind processes the dog.

    Here is how this relates to LOA. If your unconscious belief system is that you will fail your conscious mind will filter out opportunities to succeed. If your unconscious belief is that you will absolutely succeed your conscious mind will now start processing all the opportunities to succeed.

    The opportunities are always there it is just whether or not you are filtering them out.

    Positive thinking is important because it will start to form your unconscious belief system. Feed your head with positive thoughts and take time everyday to envision the future you want and you start becoming aware of opportunities that you would have otherwise filtered out.
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  • Profile picture of the author GomerMagtibay
    I have proven it with my mom. She always worry about things. And we become fed up of her worrying, we usually have arguments that resulted to making those worries real...
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    • Profile picture of the author kursat
      Originally Posted by GomerMagtibay View Post

      I have proven it with my mom. She always worry about things. And we become fed up of her worrying, we usually have arguments that resulted to making those worries real...
      My mum is the same...I guess I am too sometimes. Always trying to see why something would not work out. Last 2 years I am more optimistic about life though. My biggest move towards positive action was when I stopped watching daily news. I used to watch 9 o'clock news every day before and I found myself negative on everything. Now I just check quickly online news in the morning and that's done for the day. After that I try to watch discovery channels and likes if I have free time. Also trying to watch more comedy movies than drama.
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  • Profile picture of the author ViolentAJ
    A former colleague of mine swears by the Law of Attraction. I personaly don't believe in it. Maybe some people just have a certain vibration, like the Force in Star Wars, while others don't. hard work has been the only thing to pay off for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author unlimitcloud
    I really never have any experience of that.
    Or maybe i had, but just didn't realize it..

    Anyway, there are millions of people who really believe that, so i can't say it's not exist just because i never experienced it before.

    I think the point is, that LOA was made to give us motivation not to give up with our dreams or goals..
    And it makes sense if you keep trying, you might be successful, but don't think about when as based on LOA, the universe will find the right time for you
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