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Ok I just really felt like sharing this as it is really frustrating me at the moment. This is actually a post on my blog but I felt like sharing this to hear what you other warriors may think about this concept!!! It is on the concept of love. How do you know when someone really loves you? I am not talking about boyfriend-girlfriend love. I am talking love of each other in general because many people do say they love you but when put to the test they sure fail the love test.

Now tell me what exactly is love? How do you know if someone really loves you? When I look at society today I see an absense of real love!!! Everyone says they love you, they are your best friend but at the times when you need them most they betray that love!!!

I am a Christian and I live by that standard but I see a lot of people in churches and other religious institutions who fail the love test when put to the test. Now what exactly is this love test I am talking about???

I am talking about the ability to love someone unconditionally!!! If I call you friend then I should love you 'no matter what'!!! What do I mean by that statement?

Let me give you some examples to illustrate the point. If I am your parent and you are my child and you are an A Student and you continue to do well in school and I am always boasting in you and letting you know how much I love you etc. What happens if your grades begin to drop? Do I stop loving you? For some parents that is the impression they give their children?

If I am a church member and the whole of our faith is centered around love, how do I react to a fellow church member who gets caught in sin. Do I stop loving them and calling them my brother? If I do then my whole religion was in vain and I am a fake!!!

You need to love the child whether they are passing their exams or not, whether they are on drugs or not, whatever the reason I believe Love that is Unconditional will conquer everything else. Ancient wisdom says to hate sin but love the sinner!!!

I will really like to hear your comments on this!! What is real love and is it demonstrated today and most importantly do you demonstrate it!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author jaggyjay
    If you're a Christian, then consider the Greek's view of the different kinds of Love: Agape (ie: God's love); Eros (love btw a man and a woman); Philia (brotherly love); and Phallic? (love btw parents and their children).

    Obviously, there are different kinds of love.

    Now, should you really love everyone unconditionally? I don't know. I like to keep things simple. Love of God, Family, Friends, Country - then everything or everyone else - has worked well for me ; )

    - Jay
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  • Profile picture of the author johnlagoudakis
    I am a father of three. Yes, I want my children to do well in school and life in general. What's most important is that they try their best... what marks they achieve is insignificant.

    I'm also active in my church. As far as sin is concerned; you love the person but hate the sin. We should all love and seek the welfare of each other and be patient with one another. Who hasn't done wrong?
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  • Profile picture of the author bozz723
    I know love. It is not the wife, boyfriend, girlfriend type of love. It is more of an understanding, more of..no matter what I'll do anything for you, be there for you. Love is like you are a part of the other person whether it be family, friend, lover. Love is something unexplainable. I know I have it, I just can't explain it.

    I do know that love can masquerade as many things. With real love there is a knowing it will never go away.
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    • Profile picture of the author Matt D.
      Love is an emotion above other emotions. It controls other emotions. So whe you love somebody you are caring and ready to do things for free for that person because it will make you feel good. Love is very egoistic. It's all about you... I mean all emotions are egoistic, but love is good. It makes you do good things so that you feel good. Where when hating you feel bad and you make bad things because you can't bare that bad feeling, it's the opposite.

      Unconditional love is something very few people have. It means, you give up everything because of that love, basically you're willing to die for somebody or something ...

      No offence, but the church is not really teaching love for all people (exp. they hate gays), that's why I have stoped being officially religious. I believe in what Jesus said, love everybody and not just "straight" people as the church says.

      Take care
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  • Profile picture of the author SergeyT
    Wow! It's one of eternal questions (among "what is life?", "what is our destiny?", etc.) It reminded me of a brilliant book I read when a child, though that episode was about "happiness". Let me quote it here:

    (One of characters in the novel collected definitions of happiness. And he just found one more):

    You ask me:
    What is the greatest happiness on earth?
    Two things:
    changing my mind
    as I change a penny for a shilling;
    and
    listening to the sound
    of a young girl
    singing down the road
    after she has asked me the way.
    (Christopher Logue)
    - You see? How can one link it all together? Listening to the sound of a young girl... Not just any singing, you know, but of the girl who should be young, heading in the other direction that he is, and only after she asked him the way she needed... How can it be put such way? How on earth can you find any algorithm for such things? ("Monday begins on Saturday" A. Strugatskiy and B. Strugatskiy)

    The same with love. It is very difficult to give any general definition of love, if possible at all.

    Most often when speaking about love people mean some sense of affection or attachment to someone or something. Be it an idea, a person, a thing - usually that sense implies some response, some outcome that may be beneficial in a way to the one who loves. It may be just a pleasant feeling that "warms", it may be passion that puts everything else in the world aside, it may be strong attachment to an idea when people naturally die for it.

    What is common in all these different kinds of love? It is giving for receiving. (So it may be called "conditional" love.) "I give you my attention, my time, my feelings, my actions... and I want to receive from you some recognition, back actions, the state I await from you (i.e. a response that would be beneficial for me)".

    I'd like to offer you the way how I see love - in the terms if energy exchange.

    When we give, we share our energy and when we receive, we receive energy that other share - in this or that kind. The entire world around follows this rule - the wildlife and human beings. And what is most sad about it that usually receiving takes the first place. That is "I'll give my energy away if (and when) I get some energy from ..." You see, it's a generalization and you may apply it to any emotions (which are energy giving) or particular situations in your life. Many people call such energy giving as "love". Are they right? Yes, why not?

    But seeking for higher states of consciousness, trying to evolve in general (which is also natural) the humanity found out that the universe follows not only the law of exchange but that everything in it is interconnected and united. So if you give energy away you make some room in yourself to receive energy ("you cannot add milk to the full jug", right?). And since everything is interconnected you SHALL receive energy as soon as you have some spare room for it.

    Hence there appeared the definition of "unconditional" love - giving without expecting any receiving. For a person to grasp and put into practice this "unconditional" love concept it is needed first to understand and grasp the concept of equality of everyone and everything in the world, of their mutual connection and permanent exchange not only on material level but on the level of energy as well. But you know, people are so different and their mindset also differs so much...

    I'll stop myself here since this post may turn into a book (lol)

    Hope it'll be of some help to you.
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    • Profile picture of the author slingingshot15
      hey I will just like to thank all of you for your comments....this is really a touch subject and I agree that it is hard to love unconditionally but I think it is somthing we should all strive for at least....I agree that there are a lot of Christians who say they have love but they hate gays etc....they need to check themselves....Once again thanks for the comments and I hope more people share their opinion on this!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author abdoue
    hi intresting topic we are in need to explain to people this meaning

    Love is the most pleasurable and important thing that you can experience. There are different types of love. Many people are looking for good relationships. Think what you crave from your were attracted to someone and this is what it means to you. It can be a combination of acts, such as: nice words, being reliable, praise, complements, gifts, attention, talking, spending time together, being faithful, helpful and more. There is God's love too which means you have warm feelings toward everything and everyone.
    Have you ever met a person who will tell you "I love you" but you wouldn't feel or believe him or her? This is because you have a different language to express it. Sometimes you need to be convinced how they feel about you. Some people feel more accepted and cared of than others. For example, some people believe everyone loves them even if no one really does anything for them. And others don't believe it no matter what you do for them.
    Different types
    Some people view love when someone helps them. Others experience love when they get attention and hear praise. What is that you really want from people? I know people who don't care receiving praise or complements but others crave it most of all. Some people view love in money. Really, some people feel it when someone spends money on them and buys gifts.
    But what if you want to love someone and you don't know how? This is a tough question that many people don't even know what it means for them. They don't know how to feel it toward someone. Most often this people didn't get enough affection in their life or in childhood or weren't convinced in love by someone else. A person who had a hard or tough childhood has harder time to be nice to others. Some people don't believe in love at all. Does this mean that it doesn't exist? No, it does exist, you just need to find it and understand what it means to you.
    What is it? It is the most beautiful and warm feeling that you can experience and it makes a world a better place. It can be romantic, friendship, love toward relatives. All we want to be accepted, appreciated and cared for. Look for it and you will find. For most people romantic love is the strongest. For others God's divine feelings is the strongest. Spirituality and faith really helps you to experience it. When you know you are accepted by God, it's easier to treat others the same too.


    best wishes,
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  • Profile picture of the author technomartrga
    love is life............
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Ho
    If you're a Christian then you should know what this is:

    "Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up; 5 does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil; 6 does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth; 7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things."

    In fact, God himself is love.
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    • Profile picture of the author pioneer
      Love is divine. It is different from relation to relation. It can be tested when one falls in danger. I believe in Platonic love. Nowadays this type of love is rare. All are forgetting this love and being ready for hell.

      Regards,
      Pioneer
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      • Profile picture of the author achivement84
        Well, i can fully agree that love is unconditional by any means.May be i have an experience proved tha to me which i can`t tell here, but i learned from it the full meaning of your mentioned ancient wisdom which says "hate sin but love the sinner", i hate to tell a lie ,but i may love a liar, regardless if he is my boyfriend, my parents or my brother, but this concept you can prove yourself , to have this undefined emotions and to accepts things that you never thought that you may accept it, and to see the person`s defects with a lovely eyes, I think this is can be called love.
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  • Profile picture of the author emofree
    love is something more than we expected to have ... love is something like a magical spell that binds us whether we are sad or happy.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ronak Shah
    Self-Love means self-acceptance.

    Love is life and life is light therefore love is light
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  • Profile picture of the author mark z
    Interesting thoughts.
    As always, simplest things are hardest to explain.
    Honore de Balzac said:
    "True love is eternal, infinite, and always like itself. It is equal and pure, without violent demonstrations: it is seen with white hairs and is always young in the heart."
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