12 Famous People Who Failed Before Succeeding

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This post is not what you may think it is. I actually have a pet peeve to share with you today. It's about proper editing.

I go in search of inspiration in the form of books, videos, movies, and blog entries during those times when I need a little boost/reminder to keep trying, keep moving forward. I find it really helpful sometimes.

Today, I Googled the term "success after failure" and came across this blog entry: 12 Famous People Who Failed Before Succeeding. Far from inspiring me, it actually annoyed me as many of these blogs do due to the lack of proper editing. I posted a comment on the blog recommending a couple of fixes ... a post which he or she ended up deleting rather than responding to with an intelligent answer.

Basically, I told this person that I know his or her heart is in the right place. The intention to inspire people was genuine. But when a blog post is filled with all kinds of obvious typos/errors, it loses much of its credibility with readers.
Spelling errors:

One of the errors was the spelling of Jim Carrey's name. It was spelled Carey. Really? My goodness, if you can't even spell a famous person's name properly--if you can't even show credible research in something as obvious and simple as that--than how do you expect people to take the rest of your research seriously? It makes me question how much of this blog is truth and how much is fiction when it is haphazardly thrown together in this way.

Word usage errors and typos:

In this blog entry, the writer talks about Jay Z's "debut album entitled, Reasonable Doubt," and I laughed out loud when I read that! Books, albums, and things in general are not "entitled" to anything. Only people can be "entitled." Books, albums, and things are "titled."
Not only did the author of this blog delete my recommendations, but he or she deleted the comment without correcting all the typos/errors in the post. That's a real shame. That comes across so unprofessional to me.

People, editing is so important. And if you think you can edit yourself, you're mistaken ... as this blog entry clearly proves! No one can edit themselves: not even John Grisham, not even Danielle Steel. You need a second set of eyes to catch these types of things. This is far more important to your credibility than you may think.

Maybe one of you can contact the author of this blog to let him or her know I provided some free exposure by posting it on this forum (you're welcome). Clearly, if I try making contact again, my own message will be ignored.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tony MC
    Well said Best Seller. I was beginning to think it was just me being old fashioned when I see so many edits needed everywhere.

    I once asked one Internet Marketing product producer why he left so many mistakes in his sales copy. Would he like me to go over it for him before he sent it out? He declined my offer on the grounds that when he left all the mistakes in he got a lot fewer product refunds than when it had been properly edited. I found that rather strange as his products were really good and it was just his sales copy that lacked polish.

    While I can forgive anyone from Europe for getting the English language a bit wrong, I can't even attempt theirs after all, I think with many in the US it's either ignorance or lazyness, plus a bit of cost cutting of course. I think the US are determined to get as far away as possible from correct English in order to have a language they can call their own. No grief from that please anyone, it's just my bit of fun.

    As I've just put this out straight after writing it, what's the odds of a mistake in it somewhere? Lol
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    • Profile picture of the author Avalyn Conner
      You both are so right, Best Seller & Tony MC! I come across this sort of thing online all the time and it just blows my mind. Like you, it is quite irritating to me and immediately turns me off - very unprofessional. If I had a dollar for every site/blog/article I've come across that I edited (in my mind) while simply browsing...and if I had come there to possibly buy something, I'm not likely to now, nor will I ever come back in the future or recommend them to anyone else.

      I'm an avid reader (and 6th grade spelling champ back in the day, lol) and have always had a knack for being able to spot spelling and grammatical errors where others didn't. I am usually the proofreader among family and friends.

      Not claiming to be perfect or anywhere close (there's a good chance I may have messed up somewhere in this reply, please do let me know if anyone spots anything) but when in any doubt - whether it's spelling, a meaning or grammar - whatever it is, I Google it! I know some people who think I am anal about it, but you are so right - editing is far more important than most people realize. It can be the difference between "make or break" in the business world, online or off.

      The only thing I can think of by his or her "response" (deleting your comment) is that, while you were just giving some constructive criticism, the author was embarrassed to have their errors pointed out for all to see. Nonetheless, it baffles me that they still didn't actually correct their mistakes, though. A shame, but it's their loss.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joyce Birmingham
    The thing is proper grammar and correct spelling don't seem to matter much any more. It's seen all over news articles, emails, Facebook posts - everywhere. It's a shame that standards appear to be dropping.
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    • Profile picture of the author Best Seller
      Originally Posted by Joyce Birmingham View Post

      The thing is proper grammar and correct spelling don't seem to matter much any more. It's seen all over news articles, emails, Facebook posts - everywhere. It's a shame that standards appear to be dropping.
      It is definitely a shame.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
    Absolutely great post. Thanks Best Seller. There's loads more "Famous Rejections/Failures" including this one:

    "It is so badly written ..."
    (Rejection letter received by Dan Brown.
    The DaVinci Code then goes on to sell 80 million copies.)

    (Haha)
    The lesson? Keep going. No matter what people say, where there's a will, there's a way.
    : )

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    • Profile picture of the author Best Seller
      Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

      Absolutely great post. Thanks Best Seller. There's loads more "Famous Rejections/Failures" including this one:

      "It is so badly written ..."
      (Rejection letter received by Dan Brown. The DaVinci Code then goes on to sell 80 million copies.)

      (Haha)
      The lesson? Keep going. No matter what people say, where there's a will, there's a way.
      : )

      Jonathan
      Hi Jonathan, The DaVinci Code went on to be trade published (a process that includes extensive, professional editing) before it sold millions of copes. Editing is crucial.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
        Originally Posted by Best Seller View Post

        Hi Jonathan, The DaVinci Code went on to be trade published (a process that includes extensive, professional editing) before it sold millions of copes. Editing is crucial.
        Oh OK. Thanks for the correction. : ) Even so, many people would have given up at the stage when they received their first "rejection."
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        • Profile picture of the author Best Seller
          Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

          Oh OK. Thanks for the correction. : ) Even so, many people would have given up at the stage when they received their first "rejection."
          Very true. I agree that one should "ignore the naysayers" when it comes to pursuing goals, and I'm glad the author of The DaVinci Code did just that. Otherwise, we all would have missed out.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
    Sorry. I kind of jumped in with my post without reading your OP. (Lol.)

    Sometimes it's not the "advice" that is "wrong." (And, definitely not in your instance Best Seller.) ... Many times it's the way you communicated your suggestion. Question: Is there anything you can learn about how you approached the Blogger?

    If not, then there's nothing to care about: Sometimes people are just "dumb" (for lack of a better word).

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    • Profile picture of the author Best Seller
      Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

      Sometimes it's not the "advice" that is "wrong." (And, definitely not in your instance Best Seller.) ... Many times it's the way you communicated your suggestion. Question: Is there anything you can learn about how you approached the Blogger?
      I've been thinking about that a lot. I think maybe I could have sent a private message rather than posting the recommendations as a comment. Maybe this was why the author of that blog disregarded my suggestion.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
        Originally Posted by Best Seller View Post

        I've been thinking about that a lot. I think maybe I could have sent a private message rather than posting the recommendations as a comment. Maybe this was why the author of that blog disregarded my suggestion.
        Cool. : ) Yeah (I would guess) that may have worked better.
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      • Profile picture of the author PhilBiggs
        I agree. The author would have probably taken your suggestions better if you sent a private message instead of posting a comment. Some people aren't comfortable with being correctly so publicly and openly, so a little bit of discretion would have been a better approach, I think.
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