The More You Fail, The More Successful You Are

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Question:

"Who would you say is more successful?" Person A -- Who
failed 7 times, and struggled endlessly, before finally reaching
their income goal of six figures/year. Or Person B -- Who
didn't experience any failure or struggle, just completed the
same income goal.

It's just my opinion however I would go with Person A.

Maybe you are that Person A right now and if you are
remember that the more failure/setback/adversity you
experience along your journey ... The greater your success
when you finally do make it. (And you will -- if you keep going
...)

Not only that, as with any failure or setback, you can learn
something that will make you more successful. As Thomas J.
Watson said: "Would you like me to give you a formula for
success? It's quite simple, really: Double your rate of failure ...

Now at first glance you may be thinking he has lost his mind.
However as he continues: "You're thinking of failure as the
enemy of success, however it isn't at all. You can be discouraged
by failure, or you can learn from it ...

"So go ahead and make mistakes -- make all you can. Because,
remember ... That is where you will find success."

Just a quick thought today.
: )

Jonathan
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  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
    Person A, because person B is a smarta*** and as such, will fail big time.

    Look at Spielberg and the director that did Star Wars, a couple of big successes early on, and now, they tend to listen to their off the shelf African children, and F**** up their movies.

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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

      Person A, because person B is a smarta*** and as such, will fail big time.

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      I agree, a person who is successful at their first attempt is a failure. And their very success means that they have "failed big time' So the goal is to fail.

      Please let me know when your book comes out.
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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        I agree, a person who is successful at their first attempt is a failure. And their very success means that they have "failed big time' So the goal is to fail.

        Please let me know when your book comes out.
        No Claude, you are twisiting my words. Sure Spielberg and the other guy, (can't remember his name off hand) had plenty of successes, but the point is, the liklehood that they will fail in the future is increased.

        The Star Wars guy brought in Ja Ja Binks, (mainly becuase of his children) and the world hated that character, as well as the prequels not making as much as Star Wars and the other two.

        Then Disney bought the rights seriously F***ed up the series, then thankfully got some ground back with Rouge One.

        Disney also F***ed up Tron 2, by trying to bridge the gap too much.


        But l get what you are saying, if someone becomes wealthy early on, then they are considered successful, but long term, when they are wealthy and listening to their stupid kids, then the wheels fall off and the failure rate goes up.

        Apple is one exception to the rule, although it is losing ground now.


        And Spielberg, a run of hits early on, with Jaws, and Raiders, and Duel, but now!!!

        Apart from the robot one, (which is becoming a running cliche of scanty clad women and robots fighting it out on Earth) most of his other movies haven't done that well.

        So sure invest in someone promising but most likely pull out when he is wealthy and seeking bad advise.

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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        I agree, a person who is successful at their first attempt is a failure.



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        • Profile picture of the author Pedro Campos
          Arnold Schwarzenegger once said: "I was never afraid of failing, look there is the ground, that`s as far as I can fall"
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          • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
            Originally Posted by Pedro Campos View Post

            Arnold Schwarzenegger once said: "I was never afraid of failing, look there is the ground, that`s as far as I can fall"
            Nice. : )

            Another one would be: "Shoot for The Moon, and the worst that can happen is that you will land among The Stars."

            When a person has "transcended" the concept of "failure" as being something "positive" the struggles of Life (and business) become so much easier.

            (JMO)
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          • Profile picture of the author yukon
            Originally Posted by Pedro Campos View Post

            Arnold Schwarzenegger once said: "I was never afraid of failing, look there is the ground, that`s as far as I can fall"


            But he was doing push ups, so he only had like 4 inches to fall.

            Seriously, Arnold has some good motivational videos on Youtube.
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    • Profile picture of the author pikka
      Why can't Person A & B both be successful when the results are the same? They set out to accomplish a goal and did it.

      Person A, should be happy with success. Person A may not have had the tools or knowledge that Person B had, hence the bumps in experienced along the journey.


      Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

      Look at Spielberg and the director that did Star Wars, a couple of big successes early on, and now, they tend to listen to their off the shelf African children, and F**** up their movies.

      I don't see where their nationality has anything to do with the supposed failures of these directors (Spielberg, Lucas).
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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        Originally Posted by pikka View Post

        Why can't Person A & B both be successful when the results are the same? They set out to accomplish a goal and did it.

        Person A, should be happy with success. Person A may not have had the tools or knowledge that Person B had, hence the bumps in experienced along the journey.

        I don't see where their nationality has anything to do with the supposed failures of these directors (Spielberg, Lucas).
        Neither do l?

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  • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
    Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

    Now at first glance you may be thinking he has lost his mind.
    However as he continues: "You're thinking of failure as the
    enemy of success, however it isn't at all. You can be discouraged
    by failure, or you can learn from it ...

    "So go ahead and make mistakes -- make all you can. Because,
    remember ... That is where you will find success."

    Just a quick thought today.
    : )

    Jonathan

    Jonathan;
    The point isn't that failing is useful. At the very beginning, you'll probably fail no matter what. It's expected. Nobody starts out a business or an enterprise without a few mistakes. Nobody ever "guessed their way to success".

    It's that you learn from failed attempts, and change what you are doing. In fact, that's how expertise evolves.

    Learning what "Not" to do is the first step to learning what works.

    But if you try ten businesses, and all of them fail...you aren't making progress.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
      Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

      But if you try ten businesses, and all of them fail...you aren't making progress.
      Unless the Person learns something from those "failures." That's the whole point.
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      • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
        Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

        Unless the Person learns something from those "failures." That's the whole point.
        I agree if you are talking about ten attempts to make a sale, or ten techniques to manage a business....these are momentary "failures" while learning your craft.

        But starting ten separate businesses and all of them failing? That's a pattern.
        I remember someone (Can't remember who) saying "If you are 20 years old and ride the bus, that means you are paying your dues, just starting out. But if you are 50 and still taking the bus? That's who you are"


        A version of "The More You Fail, The More Successful You Are" is the sales mantra "Every "No" gets you closer to a "Yes"."

        Maybe, but if you keep getting rejected, it may be that what you are doing simply isn't working. It may be that you are just saying or doing things that make a "No" a certainty. I've certainly seen that in salespeople....even myself, in the beginning.
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  • Profile picture of the author dana67
    Failures are never totally bad if you use them as learning experiences.
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  • Profile picture of the author James_w
    person B is one of the lucky few and may fail later or learn how to get through Person A seems to be the majority is there an option C?
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by James_w View Post

      person B is one of the lucky few and may fail later or learn how to get through Person A seems to be the majority is there an option C?
      Person A, is the Tom Cruise type, early success, and now apart from the Mission Impossible franchise, most of his movies are duds.

      The crap version of War of the Worlds and the Crappy rehash of the Mummy being two good examples.


      Person B, is most of us, (me included, knock on wood) which explains why if some 20+ year old in society is dripping with one success after another, we tend to scan any videos they do for strong cup of tea.

      Person C? Are probably the ones, that went online immediately, and saved themselves the wasted years trying to create an offline business, but still failed for 5-10 years, (like most of us).

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    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
      Thanks for the feedback/posts People.
      : )

      Originally Posted by James_w View Post

      Is there an option C?
      Sure. That would be someone somewhere in the middle
      of the former 2.
      : )

      Another quotation I like is this one from Winston Churchill:
      "Success is the ability to move from one failure to another
      without loss of enthusiasm."
      And when you're learning
      something from those "failures" it makes it much easier
      to keep going.

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  • Profile picture of the author maxsi
    FAILURES are a part of the final Success, oohh yes. there are many guru that admit them, they did many mistakes in their life...

    What can I add here? .... they make $10K per month ( recurring income) by using Automated Businesses. it's the new trend in these years because people love things that go on autopilot.
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  • Profile picture of the author aabagail
    Proverb may use in a suitable situation only. Such as Failure is the pillar of success. It does not mean "FAIL" is good. Actually its mean who is trying after failing, he will Pass.
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  • Profile picture of the author IamEinstein
    Strive not to be a success, but rather to be of value.

    Albert Einstein
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by IamEinstein View Post

      Strive not to be a success, but rather to be of value.

      Albert Einstein
      IamEinstein, must be ghostwriter?

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        Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

        IamEinstein, must be ghostwriter?

        i thought that was garland jeffreys
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        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
          Originally Posted by hardraysnight View Post

          i thought that was garland jeffreys


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          • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
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            (Lol) OK play time over: Get back on topic otherwise I will fire you.

            (Hehe)
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  • Profile picture of the author Raphaelj
    I say the person who has failed many times, we learn a lot from our failures and most successful have failed more times than others that's why they are successful. Those who never fail don't have solid foundation and can crumble anytime in future.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    "Who would you say is more successful?" Person A -- Who
    failed 7 times, and struggled endlessly, before finally reaching
    their income goal of six figures/year. Or Person B -- Who
    didn't experience any failure or struggle, just completed the
    same income goal.
    If they end up in the same place - does it matter? Perhaps Person B just had better timing, or was a fast learner, or is a more logical thinker - or is just smarter overall. Why would anyone think failing is 'better than'?

    Failure is useful if you learn from it - it should never be a goal nor is it something to brag about. Maybe with the next business, person A will be fast and accurate and succeed right away while Person B will struggle. Again - if they end up in the same place, does someone have to "win"?

    Those who never fail don't have solid foundation and can crumble anytime in future.
    Those who always fail have no foundation at all...so...

    Failure is not a positive and is never a goal. It may be a learning experience or a humbling one - but it is not what wins awards or generates a good income.
    Failure is something to move past - or to fix or avoid. There is no glory in failing...no matter how good at it you become
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  • Profile picture of the author Raphaelj
    Kay King yes it matters if someone succeeds without failing. Read about every successful person today, they failed multiple times before succeeding. You won't find single person who succeeds without experiencing many failures, never. If you find one show me and I will stand corrected.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by Raphaelj View Post

      Kay King yes it matters if someone succeeds without failing. Read about every successful person today, they failed multiple times before succeeding. You won't find single person who succeeds without experiencing many failures, never. If you find one show me and I will stand corrected.
      I opened a retail store in 1983 and was immediately successful.

      First month, out of gate.....

      I decided to not be a fool, and learned how to run a successful retail store by working in one for six months. Then I opened my own store and was immediately in profit. My first attempt at owning a retail store. Wildly successful. In fact, I even wrote a book about how I did it. My first book I ever wrote. Again, successful on my first try as an author. Hey...maybe I see a pattern here.

      You stand corrected.

      In fact, of six different businesses I've started, none could be considered a failure, I made money with all of them.

      In fact, if you study the business you want to start, learn from someone already in that business...and you're not a blithering idiot...chances are very good that you'll make money the first time out.


      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post


      Those who always fail have no foundation at all...so...
      Very well said. A history of failure gives you nothing to build on. People that are going to be successful, may fail at a few attempt in the very beginning...but if it becomes a habit, if failing become OK with you...that's just the kind of person you'll be.

      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      Failure is something to move past - or to fix or avoid. There is no glory in failing...no matter how good at it you become
      And.....
      There is no glory in failing. There is only glory in succeeding...wildly. Everyone I know that is wealthy...hated being poor. If they had a very temporary setback, it really bothered them. Why? Because they knew it was their fault. They blamed themselves...and it made them sick.

      I can tell you people one way to guarantee never getting anywhere...being OK with failing.
      Because if failing doesn't just eat at you...make you miserable...make you ashamed...you'll be comfortable failing. And pretending that failure is a prerequisite to success? No...it isn't.

      This may sound harsh, but there is a quite a lot of "Feel good about yourself no matter what" in this section of the Forum.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
      Originally Posted by Raphaelj View Post

      Kay King yes it matters if someone succeeds without failing. Read about every successful person today, they failed multiple times before succeeding.
      Yep. That's what I have observed also. People: Don't be afraid of "failing" because it will help you become more successful. Period.
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  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
    Originally Posted by Raphaelj View Post

    Kay King yes it matters if someone succeeds without failing. Read about every successful person today, they failed multiple times before succeeding. You won't find single person who succeeds without experiencing many failures, never. If you find one show me and I will stand corrected.
    Elon Musk, but he did fail with one of his websites, and succeeded with everything else.

    PS his Rocket business was on shaky ground for a while, but it succeeded also.

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    • Profile picture of the author Ron Lafuddy
      Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

      Elon Musk, but he did fail with one of his websites, and succeeded with everything else.

      PS his Rocket business was on shaky ground for a while, but it succeeded also.

      Elon Musk is the poster-boy for failure. He's a charity case. The money he has came from the taxpayers, in the form of subsidies for both his failed car business and his failed solar business.

      Neither business makes a enough money to survive.

      I wouldn't trust his business sense to run a school lunch line.

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  • Profile picture of the author Jeff Rodburg
    I'd say both are successful. You also have to take a look at it on another angle. What if Person A failed several times due to lack of preparation? Person B was just lucky enough to dodge those delays and might not have faced adversities yet upon meeting the income goal (if this is the basis, then the two shouldn't be compared at all). They both succeeded in their own timeline with both experiencing a learning event.

    Here's what's next to success:
    "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." - Abraham Lincoln
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    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
      Good point. : ) Thanks Jeff.
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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    if you are failing making stupid mistakes .. then you are a f**** idiot .. if you make easily avoidable mistakes.. if two people put a million dollars in the bank the bank doesn't care who made more mistakes making it ..

    I personally learn the best from doing thing the hard way and then figuring out how to do thing better and more effectivly each time i do a thing .. i have been very good through my life at pretty much messing up every part of my life ..

    When i step up and become a guru.. It will greatly impro ve those people who listen to me ..when i explan my mistakes and what i did the eventually worked ..so they can not have to make the same mistakes i have mad.. most of the time over and over and over.. and over .. and yep you guessed it ..over ..

    i had 36 years of mastering ways to mess up a life without drugs or alcohol ..and the last 3 years of intense painful reprogramming and rebuilding ..

    the most successful people learn from others mistake .. such as mentors and coaches and research .. they also know how to limit the risks when they make mistakes..

    one person i listen to or did for a while said .. the formula for success is if you do ten things a only three work.. then do 20 thirty or 40 things .. and cull out the stuff that doesn't work fast

    learn from your mistakes .. just don't make the stupid mistakes that are easily found out with 10 minutes of research ..
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  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
    True, some might argue that if you fail enough times, over a long enough time period then you will do that for life?

    That depends, l have failed at least 6 times with my first website over 2.5 years, trying to monetize it.

    And 7 times with PPC, or a Course of it.

    And a couple of times with product and software creation, and off the top of my head, about 10 with name lists, and so forth.

    I also spend quite a lot of years offline, trying T-shirts, and crafty products, which lead me to online, since offline was very difficult to develop or increase past pocket money levels.

    But in trying each area, l learned what l would risk and what l didn't want to do, (l didn't want to continue with PPC, as it would cost me about $250 to test each one, and a ton of effort to create the only product that got some sales, with affiliate sales being the only perceivable way forward).


    I also got some sales with early graphic products, but shyed away from that since it would take 10 years to make anything decent from it.

    Then switched over to fonts, but even with being handpicked, (others have and their results weren't life-changing) l was in a corner, and had to sit down and critically think it through.


    Then that is when l hit the jackpot, and am developing that business now, with great results so far.

    If l had stayed with name lists or PPC, l may have still been failing, persisting til you make it, seems reasonable especially with Edison to back it up, but just imaging if the light bulb couldn't be developed at a mass consumption level?

    Edison would have failed big time and stayed with supplying them to the rich and moved on.

    Hard to say if you should stay where you are and keep trying regardless, or move on, but l guess that you need to stay with something till deep thought and reflection may tell you that it is time to move on, or when you believe that you are at 100% competency.

    But yet again, l dumped graphic posters, and a year later went back to them, but only after being in a uncomfortable place and giving it a lot of throwing the blinders off thinking.

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  • Profile picture of the author Dennielle Lee
    So beautifully said Jonathan!

    I can't agree with you more.

    Personal growth comes from life experiences such as failure. Furthermore, repeated failures builds resilience and the ability to bounce back during difficult times. It provides you with more valuable life skills that success ever will.

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    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
      Thanks Dennielle. : ) (Finally someone who understands it.) Lol.

      Originally Posted by Dennielle Lee View Post

      Personal growth comes from life experiences such as failure. Furthermore, repeated failures builds resilience and the ability to bounce back during difficult times. It provides you with more valuable life skills that success ever will.

      : )
      Absolutely: Well said. : )
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    • Profile picture of the author Odahh
      Originally Posted by Dennielle Lee View Post

      So beautifully said Jonathan!

      I can't agree with you more.

      Personal growth comes from life experiences such as failure. Furthermore, repeated failures builds resilience and the ability to bounce back during difficult times. It provides you with more valuable life skills that success ever will.

      It really depends on the type of failure and the people who see it ..Mistake are part of growing .. failures are part of life ..people have very boring lives because they have no risk tolerance for failure.. or in worse case they are total blow hards when they do something new they tell everyone about it ..and when they fail they hear about it from everyone as well..

      i think i preferJack Ma when he talks about all the ways he failed before starting alibaba ..and how everyone told him ho alibaba and the 7-8 businesses that he started from alibaba where just stupid ideas ..

      I personally think some of the best ideas are things people would believe are totally stupid .. what a message servace that only lets you post 144 characters, huh a photo service that posts a picture that can only be viewed for 8 seconds or so.. then you get into uber and air bnb

      if you go into something grasping the possibility of failure . then yo will have more potential for learning a growth
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    repeated failures builds resilience and the ability to bounce back during difficult times. It provides you with more valuable life skills that success ever will.
    Or might it provide you with expectation of failure and platitudes to explain it away?

    What I object to is the idea that anyone who succeeds without 'repeated failures' somehow isn't as good as the person who fails. That's just crazy talk. No one starts out thinking "I'm going to fail now" - it's not a goal.

    Be happy for those who don't fail - and do your best to put yourself and your business in that category.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      What I object to is the idea that anyone who succeeds without 'repeated failures' somehow isn't as good as the person who fails. That's just crazy talk. No one starts out thinking "I'm going to fail now" - it's not a goal.
      No I agree Kay. The goal is always to succeed. And overcoming "failure/setback" (etc.) -- and learning something from it -- actually is succeeding. (Compared to the Person who simply gives up at the first sign of defeat.)

      When Thomas J. Watson said "Double your rate of failure" essentially what he meant was "Double your rate of progress."

      My OP was the result of a thought I had about my current venture not succeeding. And, personally, it's my belief that if it does fail, that will just make my success (when I reach it) all the better.
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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    Ok ,

    This might be harsh and it not aimed at anyone in the thread just something i see as a real drawback of the success community that probably hurts more than it helps .. but you can always lay the blame on those that get hurt by it .

    So last week my hustle in Las Vegas the money went from making 30-100 dollars a day and so i was barley surviving to 5 dollars a day for 5 days in a row ..and so last saturday i lost my place ..and had just enough to buy a bus ticket out of Vegas ..because i did not want to be homeless there .. so im in a new city .. homeless , don't know anyone here .. family won't help , no money .. blah blah blah ..

    Its a rough ride but i am not dead yet so .. I am not a failure . at life yet . and the last week i have been digging out a crap load of programming that was fed to me nearly every day for 37 years of my life .. by every member of my family ..

    chip are down if you looked at the score card of my life up to this point 105 people out of 100 would write me off as screwed .. but i also have no debt no one to take care of but me .. and where i am now i can rent an apartment for 400-500 a month on month to month terms . I don't drink (anymore) and i don't do any drugs ..

    So right now i have identified one business i can get into that i can run from an apartment here that is legal (growing microgreens ) that if i find someone help me out possible potential customers .. the investment can get me into an apartmnent and a business that can make 1000 a month from a small space .. starting out ..

    anyway here is where my pet peave with the success community lies .. most people just need a better way to make the same or a little exrta money than they do now .. and there are growing numbers of way to pull that off ..

    but after partaking in any amount of prosparity porn the way to make 1000 -2000 a month .. are written off as not worth the time.. not big enough goal.. not great enough success to be shooting for ..

    I will get out of this and build wealth ..i am starting with a clean slate where i am.. and i want to build my life here .. i have 39 years of messing things up in my life ..and i am currently tearing out the programming behind that .. and organizing the tool box to build the life i now want to live ..

    There is a reason why so many successful people have bankruptcies or a couple of them in their past ..

    You want the dirty secret of it .. we are taught to fear the finacial ruin.. losing it all ending up homeless .. the stigma attached .. the stuff is easy to replace .. now the horribly nasty secret of this .. is the people you need to remove from your life .. either remove themselves .. or stick around and gloat .. so rebuilding .. you get to stop wasting energy on a huge nomber of people and the people who care stay and new people show up who can help ..

    and the drity secret of the dirty secret that is the horrible thing few success authors I am calling them F*#$ you goals they are goals you write and success you aim for that when you get them you get them so you can give the finger to everyone who wrote youoff as a failure ..

    your success matters only to you .. comparing yourself to others will alwaysmake you feel feel either less than other .. or prove your an egotistical arse ..
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      Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

      your success matters only to you .. comparing yourself to others will always make you feel feel either less than other .. or prove your an egotistical arse ..
      Amen!

      There is a quote I saw that said: "How to Be Happy - Stop Comparing Yourself With Others"
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  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
    Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

    Ok ,


    You want the dirty secret of it .. we are taught to fear the finacial ruin.. losing it all ending up homeless .. the stigma attached .. the stuff is easy to replace .. now the horribly nasty secret of this .. is the people you need to remove from your life .. either remove themselves .. or stick around and gloat .. so rebuilding .. you get to stop wasting energy on a huge nomber of people and the people who care stay and new people show up who can help ..

    and the drity secret of the dirty secret that is the horrible thing few success authors I am calling them F*#$ you goals they are goals you write and success you aim for that when you get them you get them so you can give the finger to everyone who wrote youoff as a failure ..

    your success matters only to you .. comparing yourself to others will alwaysmake you feel feel either less than other .. or prove your an egotistical arse ..
    Yes, l have one F*#$ you, goal, and a few I told you so F%$#wit goals, but they are long term.

    Also true when you compare yourself with others, you will get p***ed about it.

    We have a lady in AU, (she is on the X Factor l think) who is in her 20's and is dripping with success, successful song's, etc.

    And because she somehow fast tracked what has taken others, well, others are 30 and 40+ years and some are still trying, naturally some of those are p****ed.

    But as others with early success show, long term, it might be more of a curse than a blessing. The fat guy out of Blues Brothers, was successful and killed himself.

    The guy that wrote Thriller, insane success early on, and we know the rest.


    Originally Posted by Veronica Hudson View Post

    Hey, I'm Veronica and I'm new here.
    No, kidding!

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    • Profile picture of the author Odahh
      Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

      Yes, l have one F*#$ you, goal, and a few I told you so F%$#wit goals, but they are long term.

      Also true when you compare yourself with others, you will get p***ed about it.

      We have a lady in AU, (she is on the X Factor l think) who is in her 20's and is dripping with success, successful song's, etc.

      And because she somehow fast tracked what has taken others, well, others are 30 and 40+ years and some are still trying, naturally some of those are p****ed.

      But as others with early success show, long term, it might be more of a curse than a blessing. The fat guy out of Blues Brothers, was successful and killed himself.

      The guy that wrote Thriller, insane success early on, and we know the rest.




      No, kidding!

      that is the problem with the success culture.. a lot of those perading around with great success .. are only able to get out of bed in the morning or fall asleep at night because they pay a doctor lots of money to perscribe them the good stuff..

      We have a world where people can live happily in many different ways but we are beating people with this ideal of success that does not fit most people ...

      right now i the two most annoying part of the homeless thing .. are the bathroom cituation because i have to walk 20 minute or more sometime if i need to use the bathroom.. and i'm still housebroken..and the other ..is I am not being productive right now ..but then the last few months doing what i was doing i was not feeling very productive either .

      right now .. i'm just analyzing where i have messed up repeatedly in the past and trying to model a business that fit best with the way that i work the best..most productive .

      now there are a lot of mentlly damaged people ..that have gone through real nasty stuff.. and i have met so many of them in the last 18 months.. that no amount of money or success fixes the problem ..for a time things are great then they blow up again and life crashes

      the path i am on and why i am here is i had to root out the burried damage and fix it ..now i have a sneaky suspision.. that has been there for a few years and is getting more confirmation as i go along..

      I am damn sure i will get through this and on the path to building wealth..but i am also a teacher by design.. and i have got 20 good years of messing almost every area of my life up pretty bad over and over again....and no shame in explaining it ..so when i teach people.. i will start out listing the number of way i messed my life up ..and thenbe like here ..i made these mistakes for you .. here are many way you can chose better things to do ..


      in the world we live in if you have a roof over you head, a car in the driveway, money in the bank, food in the fridge.. heating and airconditioning .you are doing better than a vast majority of the population on this planet ..so it really does not serve you to compare yourself to others .

      can only compare you to who you have been .
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  • Profile picture of the author Princess Balestra
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    I figure we gotta look in on the Norse myth 'bout Bashir the Relentless.

    It is a myth kinda other enda the scale to Theseus an' the Labyrinth, cos Bashir got zero way out options.

    He jus' got a wall.

    But, hey -- guy got a stone hammer, so he gets whackin'.

    "Gonna bust down that goddamn wall," he screams, while syncin' total-body muscle flex ... an' squirtin' sweat.

    Anyways, wall is so thick, he loses his hammer real early, so he bashes the darn wall with his fists.

    (Long oral tradition kinda story, plays real good round a campfire as Bashir loses fingers, one by one, an' teeth, one by one, an' bones, one by one, till he is jus' a shattered skull lyin' screamin' on the ground before the unyieldin' wall -- but this is internets-fueled WF, so I am cuttin' through alla that crap to hit on the CLIMAX.)

    Point is, Bashir dies -- heroically tenacious, but also kinda f*ckoed.

    That's when a buncha NORSE MOLES show (an' we know they are Norse cos they got horny helmets on an' speak all kinda Scandinavianese) an' carry Bashir's skull into their BURROW NETWORK deep below ground.

    Tellya, they got no clue what no wall is -- they ' jus' got a networka burrows internexin' out all overunder, prolly only dug in the first place cozza mole style ROMANCE.

    Tellya, those guys're so in love, deep below the surface, they kinda transcend all walls the wrong way frickin' up.

    So Bashir makes the other side ... in the end.

    Coulda asked the moles real sweet, straight out.

    But that is the naturea all problems, I guess -- the interplay between the known an' the unseen.

    He never knoo the moles were there, an' they would not show cozza his Bashin'.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
      I have to say Princess B. that I have absolutely no idea what you're on about. : ) (Lol.) Reminds me of when I'm listening to some of my favourite songs/Artists. (You creative types ...)
      : )

      Peace.
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    PB said there is more than one way to get to the other side - that sometimes you need to use what is available to you rather than try to break down walls on your own.

    PB basically said you can get to the 'other side' of a problem without screaming and banging on it. That it can be easier/smarter to adapt than to try to force life to go your way.

    But PB said it in a much more interesting way than the rest of us do.
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  • Profile picture of the author oppyeaunome
    If there's one thing I've learned from the time that I've spent online is for you to make money online, you have to become comfortable with failing.

    Failure is a part of making money online. If you're too afraid to take action because you're scared of failing, then you shouldn't even think about starting a business.

    The failure is what makes you stronger every time. Failing allows you to make better decisions in the future. When you don't take action, you never get feedback, and without feedback, you'll never know how to get better.

    I was stuck in a place like this when I first got started online. I never took action. It was too scary.

    Never taking action made it harder for me. When I took action, I got feedback.

    Making a habit of taking action and failing is the only way you'll start to make progress with your online business.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
      Great post oppyeaunome. Thanks. : )

      Originally Posted by oppyeaunome View Post

      Failure is a part of making money online. If you're too afraid to take action because you're scared of failing, then you shouldn't even think about starting a business.
      Or, as Bruce Lee (and Susan Jeffers) said:

      "Feel the fear and do it anyway!"

      IMO there's nothing wrong with being afraid of "failing." However I hope my comments have helped People realize they can benefit from their "failures." (In Business and in Life.)

      Originally Posted by oppyeaunome View Post

      The failure is what makes you stronger every time. Failing allows you to make better decisions in the future. When you don't take action, you never get feedback, and without feedback, you'll never know how to get better.
      Agreed. : ) Well said.

      Cheers.
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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    i think the quote i heard and i may have put it in this one is .. in medical school it only take a few hour to teach a student how to do 95 percent of opperations.. it takes two to three years to learn how to fix anything that can and will go wrong ..

    Because most of us had educations the put us on the path to be worker bees in factories or offies .. or some repetative process.. once someone else had fine tuned the system.. it was our training and conditioning.. to not make mistakes that made us valuable to the system..

    we don't live in that world anymore .. the same way we don't live in a world where a woman has to have 7-10 kids so 2-3 make it to adulthood ..so around the world replacment rates are plumiting so woman are only having 1-3 children ..

    And because automation and ai and other tech will reduce the need for having humans for just menial lahbor.. those rates will drop further ..because we will have robot and tech taking care of elderly people instead of laying the burden on the children ..

    if you aregoing into surgery ..you do not want you doctor to fail on your surgery . you don't want your machanic to fail to fix your breaks, or your pilot to fail to follow everything on the check list .

    but in business when it is your business you are trying to grow you have to test new things that might fail remember do to perato's law 80-90 percent of what you do will not be very profitable or will lose money .

    for it to be the most effective you have to have a failure rate designed into your system in order to find the most bang for the buck..

    and mostly every tasty treat or delicious delight in any culture has the back story of someone messing up and then boom this great tasting thing resulted ..
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  • Profile picture of the author Benjamin Ehinger
    It's person A for sure. The failures teach lessons, which can be used later in life. Person B is still successful, but doesn't have the same failures to use as a guide later, if something goes wrong. Just because they have achieved the same goal, doesn't mean they will both stay there and my bet would be on Person A every single time.
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