"I Tried That" Delusion

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Sometimes I come across folks who complain about a marketing method not working.

Pressed for an answer, some folks say "I tried that once and it did not work."

Once?

Guys; ego deludes you into believing you will get it right on the first try. Most of the time, you won't. Doesn't matter if you paid $50 or $500 for a solo ad, or if you invested significant time and money in a self-hosted blog, or in anything you do online.

The "I tried that" delusion cripples aspiring folks because they are in 1 shot, or 1 month, 1 year deal mode. Like; you blogged for a year, have not made a cent and can honestly say you tried it. Not really. I have heard 7 and 8 figure bloggers who made peanuts their first year blogging. Chris Brogan took 8 years to get his first 100 subscribers.

Guys; don't give up so freaking easily. Do not panic. Do not surrender to the meme delusion of "I tried that" after 1 attempt, or 10 attempts.

Everybody you see who is highly successful online tried again and again, and again and again, honing their craft over years.

If you love your niche....keep....going.
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  • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
    I've heard "I tried that and it doesn't work" many times. It's usually from people who really mean "I made one attempt, did everything wrong, and got no result".

    So there is a lot of truth in not stopping after one attempt.

    The problem is that people read these posts and think that if they just keep doing the same thing over and over again, eventually it will get results.

    The people that got results after 1,000 attempts...got results because they didn't do exactly the same thing every time.

    If you think of every attempt as a "swing of the bat" in baseball....the reason you finally get a hit is because you get better at swinging at the pitches... not because of the repetition.

    If you never adjust your grip, change the swing, time the throw...better than you did before...you'll never get a hit.

    Being doggedly persistent has its rewards, but if your just keep doing the exact same thing over and over...hoping for a different result...that's idiotic.
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    • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
      Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

      that's idiotic.
      Well, that kinda says it all. You were expecting more???
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    • Profile picture of the author Odahh
      Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post


      Being doggedly persistent has its rewards, but if your just keep doing the exact same thing over and over...hoping for a different result...that's idiotic.
      actually in todays world pretty much everything has diminishing returns .. so doing the same thing over and over my lead to steadily declining results ..the rate of change has been increasing ..

      in a lab where all factors stay the same and only one or two things can be changes at a time .. it is definitely insanity to do the same thing over and over and expect different results.. in the real world. that has been in an accelerating rate of change for 50 or more years .. you do the same thing over and over .. and you get boring fast
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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    honestly .. a lot of times or a good chunk of those "tries" are done to fail .. because people have no intention of actually doing it .. but don't want to explaine why they don't want to.. so it is easier to try fail and.. be done with it ..

    I tried it it failed no leave me alone about it so i can do the stuff i want to do ..

    or i knew i couldn't do it.. but had to try to make everyone else happy ..

    if it is part of the process of improving..it is a test ..not a try ..
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

      honestly .. a lot of times or a good chunk of those "tries" are done to fail .. because people have no intention of actually doing it .. but don't want to explaine why they don't want to.. so it is easier to try fail and.. be done with it ..

      I tried it it failed no leave me alone about it so i can do the stuff i want to do ..

      or i knew i couldn't do it.. but had to try to make everyone else happy ..

      if it is part of the process of improving..it is a test ..not a try ..
      Yes. In many business ideas, one attempt...without having any idea what you are doing, is all the person is going to do. They thinking they are seeing if "it" works.

      But if anyone else can make it work (I'm talking about business ideas) then "it" does work.

      I started doing print advertising 35 years ago, and it took me two years before a single and generated a profit. But I knew that advertising worked, because others were making it work. I just needed to figure it out.

      What takes so long for the learning curve to take place is that there are so many variables...so many things you can do incorrectly.

      And on the first attempt, everything...everything you do is wrong.

      That's why I'm such a big advocate of learning from an established success at what you are attempting...copy the masters and then try to figure out why their stuff works.
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      • Profile picture of the author Odahh
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post


        And on the first attempt, everything...everything you do is wrong.

        That's why I'm such a big advocate of learning from an established success at what you are attempting...copy the masters and then try to figure out why their stuff works.
        seem we are partly carrying over the conversation from the patience thread .. well a lot of the stuff you see from the masters are the versions that survived the tests and rolled out ..and those test where a lot more expensive than today ..

        people just give up to easy today ... or go in with unreasonable expectations .. with no willingness to grasp there is a process ..

        especially where you can do test for 50 or 100 dollars today .. that would have taken thousands our 10's of thousands 20 or 30 years ago ..
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        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        That's why I'm such a big advocate of learning from an established success at what you are attempting...copy the masters and then try to figure out why their stuff works.
        Sorry - I am not letting you in my bedroom, regardless of how sad I am for your wife''s plight. You'll have to stick with the Penthouse letters for tips. You need to work your way up to the master course.
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    • Profile picture of the author Odahh
      Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

      I never understood why Wile E. Coyote only ever tried each ploy once.
      at least he was persistent no matter what the personal risk.. even real cyotes leave real roadrunners alone ..

      ar least willie could try any stupid doomed to fail thing to catch the roadrunner .. and no one would ever think a child watching a cartoon 50 years ago would ever think to try it .. now you would probably need don't try this at home and reminders that it is a carton and not real life ..

      the age of unreason
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  • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
    A typical example of "I tried that" delusion is in advertising. I was giving a seminar to a room of advertising reps, and one of them told me that the reason they ask for a 12 month commitment is that "it takes running an ad at least 7 times before they start to work".

    I said "No. The first ad will always outperform every following ad, if they are the same. That's why advertisers don't run the same ads forever. The reason you want a 12 month (or 12 insertion) contract is that now you have 12 chances to make their ads work for them. If the first one bombs, you can try something else....you get 12 chances at bat".

    I made the huge mistake of thinking that because they were ad reps, they knew something about advertising. Nope. I told them that the biggest secret to selling ads is knowing how to create ads that bring in buyers...and then repeat sales will be effortless.


    They looked at me like I was from Mars.

    In my years of selling my marketing courses from the stage, that was one of only two times I left with no sales at all.
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    • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
      Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

      They looked at me like I was from Mars.
      What am I missing, here?
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        Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

        What am I missing, here?
        personal charisma.
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        • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
          Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

          personal charisma.
          Uh - I said what am I missing, not what are you totally devoid of.
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      • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
        Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

        What am I missing, here?

        Ad reps don't want to talk about advertising. They only want to talk about selling advertising. Honestly, I have never run into an ad rep that knew even the most basic fundamentals of direct advertising.

        Ad reps think their job is to "get the business's name out there". The idea that they could actually strive to make a profit for their advertisers...simply doesn't occur to them.
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        • Profile picture of the author Odahh
          Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

          Ad reps don't want to talk about advertising. They only want to talk about selling advertising. Honestly, I have never run into an ad rep that knew even the most basic fundamentals of direct advertising.

          Ad reps think their job is to "get the business's name out there". The idea that they could actually strive to make a profit for their advertisers...simply doesn't occur to them.
          a lot of work today .. in modern america.. when you are off the factory floor.. is 10 percent actually doing anything.. 30 percent doing paperwork about what was done .. and 60 percent having meetings .. about planning future meeting and talking about how to get more done ..

          and then when not at work .. spending large amounts of time on the cell phone to co workers .. talking about things that should get done or meeting that may need to occur .. like 10 percent of people are involved in farming and making stuff.. 50 percent of the population is administrative and clerical .. itis this group that has the most to fear from ai and robotics ..

          in any case ..when the add rep's looked at you like you where from mars .. they may have been on to something ..ever wonder why humans seem so odd to you ..

          Haha
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        • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
          Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

          Ad reps don't want to talk about advertising. They only want to talk about selling advertising. Honestly, I have never run into an ad rep that knew even the most basic fundamentals of direct advertising.

          Ad reps think their job is to "get the business's name out there". The idea that they could actually strive to make a profit for their advertisers...simply doesn't occur to them.
          Agreed. Best to avoid them wherever possible. They also believe that, "one size fits all."

          Go right to the sales manager and tell him you'll only deal with him/her and you want the reps commission as a discount. I've had that work. I didn't make any friends, but - you know me. I have a dog.
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    Originally Posted by ryanbiddulph View Post

    Once?

    Guys; ego deludes you into believing you will get it right on the first try. Most of the time, you won't. Doesn't matter if you paid $50 or $500 for a solo ad

    Though the general principle rings true, I wouldn't press it by using solo ads as an example.

    Where solo ads are concerned, I would advise anyone to avoid pumping money into solo ads from 'solo ad vendors' at all costs, especially hundreds of Dollars if results aren't evident.

    This opinion is based upon the fact that solo Ad selling is one of the most prominent channels of syndicate scamming in 'Internet Marketing' today and the game will be up for many when legislation are inevitably laid down.

    Though I've said this before, and many time previous to that, I feel that this cannot be emphasized enough.

    'Solo ads' which work are those that are broadcasts executed by those people or organizations who have spent time (and no doubt money), acquiring genuine, valuable prospects and customers who have also agreed to accept information from associated partners.

    Effective solo ads derive from analyzing a niche and establishing such partnerships and potential of general loss is greatly minimized by effective and sensible business strategies - not simple repetition. This involves sensible testing, (largely avoiding figurative shots in the dark).... and adjusting.
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    Delusion smiles at you that you haven't figured it out.
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  • Exactly!!!!
    Never Give Up!!!
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      Originally Posted by Michael Harrington View Post

      Exactly!!!!
      Never Give Up!!!
      Because we all know that's nothing more than a meaningless platitude.
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    You see, I invested dearly in esotericism. I turned a deaf ear to the naysayers and I am very optimistic about the future. This one of a kind hypnosis propels me to move forward. I reckon how powerful you can be once you program the mind with deep trance hypnosis. Hypnosis changed the way I perceive my reality and believe it or not, how you think on the inside, shows off on the outside. That's how you magnetize the right people into your life. That's how you make ends meet. With an unbreakable mindset!

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    Are you gonna fall prey to the bearer of bad news? It's your call. I would suggest that you take action now and become part of the Cosmic Master evolution and never look back again.
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      Originally Posted by Sir Eliot Dundee View Post

      I want to submit my own case study while using the Cosmic Master programs. I know this testament will serve as an affirmation as to why these programs work, straight out of the gate. And the way I use affirmations, well, I know they are pretty powerful because not only they are imprinted in the subconscious, but in the universe as well.

      I noticed an increasing, rather staggering boost in confidence and personal awareness. My case is a page turning case study of unprecedented achievement. I live life to the fullest every single day. Deep inside of me, I can spot the difference. Even people commend me about how positive I am, and how I can pass this energy onto them without even trying.

      You see, I invested dearly in esotericism. I turned a deaf ear to the naysayers and I am very optimistic about the future. This one of a kind hypnosis propels me to move forward. I reckon how powerful you can be once you program the mind with deep trance hypnosis. Hypnosis changed the way I perceive my reality and believe it or not, how you think on the inside, shows off on the outside. That's how you magnetize the right people into your life. That's how you make ends meet. With an unbreakable mindset!

      Attracting my soulmate? Not a problem anymore. Thriving in business and personal relationships? Consider it done already. I feel as if everything is laid on a silver platter... this quantum noesis as well. For over 15 years the Cosmic Master has been empowering people to conceive what others perceive as unthinkable. People swarm in the Cosmic Master website in a buying frenzy because these programs work, to the fullest extent that the mind apprehends.

      You see, the onus is on you because once upon a time you did a disservice to yourself listening to the bad news. And you bought the story. Hence why a flawed mindset belittles you as a person, and your ambitions. A person without ambitions is empty on the inside, and that shows on the exterior. Other people instinctively know that something is wrong with you because body language and the eyes, never lie. That's why it is so crucial to work closely with your most powerful asset - your subconscious mind.

      How on earth can you be a smashing success without proper mind programming? How can people trust you when you can't trust your own self. That's when confidence hits rock-bottom and you lose everything. It occurred to me based on substantial evidence and empirical studies, that mind programming is the only thing that can resurrect you from the shambles.

      People procrastinate because they haven't found their true life purpose... a purpose that redefines reality and thrusts your way to the top. When you start programming your mind with Cosmic Master hypnosis, you will immediately notice the perks and the dividends as you unmistakably rise your way to the top. In short, you collaborate with your own self to ostracize any qualms you have about yourself, as you make the transition to the next level. A level you've never encountered before - until now.

      You will experience new or better relationships, a reason to live optimally and an undying tendency to make ends meet, the right way. The wrong way of course, is to do nothing, hence expect nothing. That's a devastating blow to one's potential. The other option is to counterattack the matrix and find your way out of the loop.

      Are you gonna fall prey to the bearer of bad news? It's your call. I would suggest that you take action now and become part of the Cosmic Master evolution and never look back again.
      Normally, I would pick out a sentence or two, to quote for my response, but that is not possible, This entire posts is one of the saddest, yet most laughable piles of pure, unadulterated swill that I have read in many years.

      If all of these things you speak of are a reflection of your existence, past or present, then all I can feel for you is abject pity.

      Fortunately, although I have had my own challenges along life's journey, I have been blessed to have never been subjected to, nor affected by anything remotely resembling the tortured existence you describe here.

      You'll forgive me if I pass on your 'suggestion.' P.T. Barnum was absolutely correct. lol
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      • Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

        Normally, I would pick out a sentence or two, to quote for my response, but that is not possible, This entire posts is one of the saddest, yet most laughable piles of pure, unadulterated swill that I have read in many years.

        If all of these things you speak of are a reflection of your existence, past or present, then all I can feel for you is abject pity.

        Fortunately, although I have had my own challenges along life's journey, I have been blessed to have never been subjected to, nor affected by anything remotely resembling the tortured existence you describe here.

        You'll forgive me if I pass on your 'suggestion.' P.T. Barnum was absolutely correct. lol
        Good luck servicing your customers with that long face.
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          Originally Posted by Sir Eliot Dundee View Post

          Good luck servicing your customers with that long face.
          Third-grade, come-back. One grade level lower than I was actually expecting. lol
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  • Profile picture of the author dana67
    Sometimes you have to keep trying and trying to make it work. People seem to give up way too soon. It's going to take some time and effort to be successful.
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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    this cosmic master stuff is starting to sound like a cult or religion.. at what point does talking about it start violating forum rules ..
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      Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

      this cosmic master stuff is starting to sound like a cult or religion.. at what point does talking about it start violating forum rules ..
      The forum has no rules relating to being ridiculous. Unfortunately.
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        Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

        The forum has no rules relating to being ridiculous. Unfortunately.
        but the patter is people either more than one .. or one with multiple forum names selling religious or cult like.. Cosmic master program

        IT's boordering on religion.. but hey ..
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          Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

          but the patter is people either more than one .. or one with multiple forum names selling religious or cult like.. Cosmic master program

          IT's boordering on religion.. but hey ..
          You can always make a formal compliant to the Poobah. I did that today and was shocked to find the thread I complained about edited to remove the offending content in question and then locked-down, permanently.

          Any time I can 'make my day' by ruining someone else's, is a very good day indeed. :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author tryinhere
    Many people now live in an indulgent society where they want it, and they want it now.

    Which in the irony of that makes it so much better for those who have the patience to learn on how to deliver those today needs best.

    Swings and Roundabouts.
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