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Quick Tip:-
let me tell an important secret to manifest your desire.
"DON'T BE DESPERATE "
An important part of the law of attraction process is to feel as if you already have it.
And when you have something then you can't feel desperate for it. So just visualize properly and let it go.
Let your subconscious mind or the universe take care of it. There is a huge number of stories where this idea have been proved to be phenomenal.
Ask, feel , let it go & receive.
By the way, I'm not a law of attraction expert by any means. I'm just a a beginner in Law of attraction but what I've just told is taken from the words of law of attraction masters.
Best of Luck Because you are AWESOME & you deserve it.
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  • Profile picture of the author palmtreelife
    Thanks, Jess. What does the Law of Attraction mean to you and how do you practice the principle each day?
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    • Profile picture of the author Just Jess
      Originally Posted by palmtreelife View Post

      Thanks, Jess. What does the Law of Attraction mean to you and how do you practice the principle each day?

      It's pretty much automatic as I use specific hypnosis to breakthrough to the next level. I am siphoning energy from the universe this way and match the frequencies of the desired effect so to manifest.
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      • Profile picture of the author GordonJ
        Originally Posted by Just Jess View Post

        It's pretty much automatic as I use specific hypnosis to breakthrough to the next level. I am siphoning energy from the universe this way and match the frequencies of the desired effect so to manifest.
        Life is automatic. If you do nothing, time still goes on.

        How can you siphon something which is everywhere?

        There is a "secret", built into us, our survival bias. And one basic tenant: where the head goes, the body follows.

        GordonJ

        PS. Several Warriors in this thread, have been visualizing for a couple of years now, what possibly could be wrong with their thinking, seeing as, they haven't reached their goals?
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        • Profile picture of the author palmtreelife
          PS. Several Warriors in this thread, have been visualizing for a couple of years now, what possibly could be wrong with their thinking, seeing as, they haven't reached their goals?
          I'm certainly no expert on the attractor factor or "the secret", but I do know that a lot of people naively believe that THINKING something into existence is all you have to do. They forget about the actual hard work every day that is required to meet one's goals.

          Then there are others who believe that hard work alone will get them what they want. We know that's not true because there are a LOT of people working 12hr/day at minimum wage and not living the life they dream about.

          So what is the formula for reaching a goal or changing a life? I don't think there's one formula. The basics in my opinion are to have a vision, work hard and work smart....but there are people who do all of this and still don't succeed. There are some people who visualize, don't work and still succeed...and others who have no vision, work hard and succeed.

          I've always found it interesting to discuss these things, study successful people and failures. Every situation seems unique, and that's what makes life interesting to me. It should give people hope and inspiration as well because it means anyone can be successful...from any background, childhood upbringing, color, race, gender, financial circumstance, physical disability etc.

          TLDR: what are warriors doing wrong if they are visualizing and not reaching their goals? It could be anything since it (usually) takes more than just visualizing to be successful.
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          • Profile picture of the author GordonJ
            Originally Posted by palmtreelife View Post

            I'm certainly no expert on the attractor factor or "the secret", but I do know that a lot of people naively believe that THINKING something into existence is all you have to do. They forget about the actual hard work every day that is required to meet one's goals.

            Then there are others who believe that hard work alone will get them what they want. We know that's not true because there are a LOT of people working 12hr/day at minimum wage and not living the life they dream about.

            So what is the formula for reaching a goal or changing a life? I don't think there's one formula. The basics in my opinion are to have a vision, work hard and work smart....but there are people who do all of this and still don't succeed. There are some people who visualize, don't work and still succeed...and others who have no vision, work hard and succeed.

            I've always found it interesting to discuss these things, study successful people and failures. Every situation seems unique, and that's what makes life interesting to me. It should give people hope and inspiration as well because it means anyone can be successful...from any background, childhood upbringing, color, race, gender, financial circumstance, physical disability etc.

            TLDR: what are warriors doing wrong if they are visualizing and not reaching their goals? It could be anything since it (usually) takes more than just visualizing to be successful.
            May be a formula. May not. Life works pretty much the same for everyone, albeit, the where one is born and the rules and authorities of that land do play a huge role.

            But the first mistake made is:

            Success.

            As a goal. What is it? You have used it several times in your response, and you say anyone can be successful. And it takes more than visualizing to be successful.

            But that is the very first block, or hurdle. When you say "study successful people", it brings along an X factor, that being your opinion in the equation.

            Was Mother Teresa, the Nobel Peace Prize winner a success? Certainly we would say. But ... The Missionaries of Charity and their vows: chastity, poverty, obedience and a wholehearted free service to the poorest of the poor...

            Those vows won't be found in the arsenal of the Internet Marketer or the would be rich crowd.

            So, to discuss these things, we need to be on the same page.

            In the West, Billionaires might be considered the most successful people in our culture, but in other places, like Tibet, success may mean something very different.

            The OLD homeless guy in San Diego, who gets his daily alcohol need fulfilled has had a successful day. But few of us aspire to such success.

            There is one idea, not necessarily a "law" or rule or formula, but it is a good starting point for all....what do you want, and WHY do you want it?

            The biggest problem in the so called Law of Attraction is that the neophyte mistakes pleasure for happiness. And tons of research has shown, happiness is as elusive a concept as fulfillment is.

            Is there an assumption made by those who practice the Law of Attraction, that the thing they desire comes with happiness upon it's attainment? But that is counter to the instruction of believing it already exists, and therefore, so does the happiness.

            And could that explain why the visualizing is often the thing achieved and not the goal, because if you are, then there is no place to get too.

            When one understands the I AM. The need for the BE, either falls to the wayside or is looked at further for mistaken, or misshapen thoughts.

            See?

            GordonJ
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            • Profile picture of the author palmtreelife
              But that is the very first block, or hurdle. When you say "study successful people", it brings along an X factor, that being your opinion in the equation.
              Absolutely. The X factor is a good way of putting it. I'm surprised I mentioned "success" so often in my post because I honestly cringe when I hear it and read about it. Success is typically associated with money.

              It's all relative like you said. I don't feel we have the right to say who is successful and who is not. Remember the story of the Mexican fisherman and the American investment banker? Summary for those who don't know: fisherman fishes a little bit, is perfectly happy and does what he wants. Banker encourages him to expand business with bigger boats and go international. Mexican asks why? Banker explains that he can have millions, retire and do whatever he wants...which is exactly what he's already doing now.

              Success is viewed VERY different for all of us. I didn't mean to make it sound like being successful is the same for everyone.

              When I "study successful people", I am looking up to people I admire and I'm more interested in their journey than their current position, possessions and daily routine. We can learn much more from their journeys than the tangibles they have like family, money, homes, jewellery etc. I have zero desire to become a movie star, but I still appreciate Dwayne Johnson's rise to fame and his insane work ethic. Is he a success? Seems so from the outside, but we have no idea what's going on inside and behind closed doors.

              I have my own idea for a daily lifestyle. I've spent time creating my "perfect day" and I work every day to get closer to that lifestyle I THINK I want for myself....maybe my goals change along the way, or when I get what I'm working for, it won't be as great or perfect as I thought it would be. What a kicker! That perfect day though is MY perfect day and I understand not everyone wants to do what I want to do. I will hit the pinnacle of success (for me) if I am able to live my perfect day every day. That ideal lifestyle does not include becoming a billionaire or having 6 kids, so by those standards, some may think I'm a failure in life...despite how happy I would be.

              That's why I enjoy discussing success, but only with those who understand success does not necessarily mean making millions of dollars and clubbing every night with an entourage of jealous ankle biters. I enjoy listening what others define to be a successful life.

              Perhaps I'll start an off topic thread about that...there are a lot of interesting folks in here and I'd love to hear their definitions of a successful life or what their perfect day looks like.
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          • Profile picture of the author Odahh
            Originally Posted by palmtreelife View Post

            I'm certainly no expert on the attractor factor or "the secret", but I do know that a lot of people naively believe that THINKING something into existence is all you have to do. They forget about the actual hard work every day that is required to meet one's goals.

            Then there are others who believe that hard work alone will get them what they want. We know that's not true because there are a LOT of people working 12hr/day at minimum wage and not living the life they dream about.

            So what is the formula for reaching a goal or changing a life? I don't think there's one formula. The basics in my opinion are to have a vision, work hard and work smart....but there are people who do all of this and still don't succeed. There are some people who visualize, don't work and still succeed...and others who have no vision, work hard and succeed.

            I've always found it interesting to discuss these things, study successful people and failures. Every situation seems unique, and that's what makes life interesting to me. It should give people hope and inspiration as well because it means anyone can be successful...from any background, childhood upbringing, color, race, gender, financial circumstance, physical disability etc.

            TLDR: what are warriors doing wrong if they are visualizing and not reaching their goals? It could be anything since it (usually) takes more than just visualizing to be successful.
            I'm going to step away from my normal forum voice for a moment to give the no nice answer to this. This response also might risk being deleted . If you want the real reason why many people who visualize stuff never get what they are visualizing. Nor do they even start on the path to getting what they are visualizing.

            Here is the not nice answer. It is the same reason men who watch a large amount of porn end up never having sex . Or having the woman they do get in relationships with leave them .

            The same reason People can watch the food channel all day and still never cook anything that actually tastes good or doesn't come out of a box that say just add water .

            The motivation industry and the success porn talking heads make plenty of money . Feeding on getting people to have much bigger dreams or visualizations than they could ever hope to get. Which then foster a crushing feeling of inadequacy. That just ends up needing more motivation more visualization. More feel better sauce.

            Like the Pharmaceutical industry. Why cure or make people better when there is far more money keeping people sick and miserable and just giving them medication they have to take for the rest of their live ever day to feel better or at least not feel sick .

            Instead of teaching people the work they need to put in to make their lives better. teach them three hours a combination of visualizing, writing down goals, journal writing, reading more motivational books, listening to motivational tapes, and so on.

            Blah. I'm being a lot nicer than i though i was going to be.

            My Tldr for this Most people are visualizing stuff far outside of what they can ever accomplish so like what they see in porn. The visualizing might make them feel better in the moment . In reality though it leads to a chronic sense of comparison based inadequacy .

            PS I have settled on the first bad book i am going to write. It going to be a satirical business /motivation book . "how to start a small business , that will get you out of your parents basement, into you're own apartment dating woman you are attracted to"
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            • Profile picture of the author GordonJ
              Originally Posted by Odahh View Post



              . Feeding on getting people to have much bigger dreams or visualizations than they could ever hope to get. Which then foster a crushing feeling of inadequacy. That just ends up needing more motivation more visualization. More feel better sauce.

              (I think this is your point??^^^)

              Instead of teaching people the work they need to put in to make their lives better. teach them three hours a combination of visualizing, writing down goals, journal writing, reading more motivational books, listening to motivational tapes, and so on.

              My Tldr for this Most people are visualizing stuff far outside of what they can ever accomplish so like what they see in porn. The visualizing might make them feel better in the moment . In reality though it leads to a chronic sense of comparison based inadequacy .
              With you, I'm never quite sure I get the point. But, if you are saying the idea of accomplishing BIG things is out of the reach of most people, then I disagree. Don't know what porn or big pharm have to do with anything.

              I do accept the premise that we live in a world of comparison, and it can or could create feelings of inadequacy in some people. Today, in the world of social media there are enormous amounts of LIFESTYLE presentation.

              Keeping up with the Kardasians and Jenners sort of thing. I think, what you are saying is, the young girl isn't going to be a Kylie Jenner; rich, good looking celebrity.

              But she is sold on the idea that if she WANTS that lifestyle, or to get some of those feelings she THINKS comes with that territory, then she succumbs to buying the make-up, jewelry, accessories etc.

              And that she is NEVER going to be a Kylie. The dream is a fantasy, out of her reach, and therefore, all the visualization, journal keeping, and meditation in the world isn't going to get her there. Right?

              Well, yea, our culture of celebrity plays a role, and fantasy takes up more time and space than it probably should.

              But in our little neck of the woods, the Internet Marketing lake of the Internet, we have the Frank Kerns (the Kylie Jenner of IM????) and their systems. The difference is, we all have a shot at becoming independent, even financially free with IM, albeit, maybe without the fame of a Kern type...

              Success (and defining that is another ball of wax) is achievable and RESULTS can be made manifest for all to see.

              AND, I will argue there is a mountain of HOW TO, and there is all kinds of ideas about the WORK needed to achieve, it isn't a secret.

              It might be a gap in our education, not knowing that to manifest something requires effort, especially with younger generations...but I do agree with you that SELF HELP, self-improvement and books and courses on how to make things happen is an industry full of scoundrels and charlatans, however, there IS quality HOW TO information available to help people achieve their dreams.

              GordonJ

              PS. I may have missed your point completely, oh well.
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              • Originally Posted by GordonJ View Post

                Keeping up with the Kardasians and Jenners sort of thing. I think, what you are saying is, the young girl isn't going to be a Kylie Jenner; rich, good looking celebrity.

                Many goals I hear are really fantasies. They are so out of touch with reality that the goal setter never even starts making an effort.

                But I have observed a few things in my life. Regardless of the goal, Consistent learning, and consistent effort are the commonalities.

                "Wanting to be rich" is a common goal. But it's not really a goal. It's an effect of reaching a different goal.

                I was workig for an insurance company when I was in my early 20s. There were maybe 12 of us in the room. There was a sales contest for the month...how many policies would we sell?

                Since my last name is Whitacre, I went last. All the other guys were saying "30", "40", "50" policies. One trying to out claim the next. These 'goals" were fantasies, given by chronic underachievers. They were hollow.

                It came to me. I said "12". And one guy laughed. The manager said "Why only 12? What's the difference between everyone else and you? I said " I'll really sell my 12".

                The difference between a real goal..and a fantasy.

                And speakers and Gurus have to sell the fantasy...because that's what people want to buy.
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      • Originally Posted by Just Jess View Post

        Quick Tip:-
        let me tell an important secret to manifest your desire.
        "DON'T BE DESPERATE "
        An important part of the law of attraction process is to feel as if you already have it.
        And when you have something then you can't feel desperate for it. So just visualize properly and let it go.
        Let your subconscious mind or the universe take care of it. There is a huge number of stories where this idea have been proved to be phenomenal.
        Ask, feel , let it go & receive.
        By the way, I'm not a law of attraction expert by any means. I'm just a a beginner in Law of attraction but what I've just told is taken from the words of law of attraction masters.
        Best of Luck Because you are AWESOME & you deserve it.

        To be honest, when I read...in the "Mind Warriors" section...Don't Be Desperate...I thought "Oh good, someone is going to talk about how appearing desperate repels people. How being seen as desperate kills any chance of making sales, getting hired, or attracting a quality mate.

        But no...it was more of this.....


        Originally Posted by Just Jess View Post

        It's pretty much automatic as I use specific hypnosis to breakthrough to the next level. I am siphoning energy from the universe this way and match the frequencies of the desired effect so to manifest.
        Amazingly, this 'idea", this way of thinking, has been around for decades.

        My question is, after thinking this way for years...has it worked?

        Maybe you're just not manifesting hard enough. "Ask, feel , let it go & receive."?

        No effort? No work? No action? No responsibility? No putting in the hours to makes something happen? You know, the things people that are successful do?

        Maybe you're chanting at the wrong frequency. Maybe that's the problem.

        I'm just trying to help with suggestions.
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        • Profile picture of the author Odahh
          Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post





          Amazingly, this 'idea", this way of thinking, has been around for decades.

          My question is, after thinking this way for years...has it worked?

          Maybe you're just not manifesting hard enough. "Ask, feel , let it go & receive."?

          No effort? No work? No action? No responsibility? No putting in the hours to makes something happen? You know, the things people that are successful do?

          Maybe you're chanting at the wrong frequency. Maybe that's the problem.

          I'm just trying to help with suggestions.
          well where people hear Connor Mcgreggor and Jim Cary talk about the law of attraction and visualizing what they wanted and believing they could get what they wanted.. then ignore the ungodly amount of effort both people put into training and mentally preparing .. and the luck ..that can only come when a person is doing so much ..

          Inspired action verse mysteriously attracting manifestations ..

          I'm currently inspired to become a better writer.. but i am not ready to put in thee work.. but a lot of the interviews and podcasts i have been listing to have been from people who wrote books .. or professional writers.. and many tips on improving writing.. or the writing process in general.. that where just outside my real of thinking ..a month ago.

          the human brain works as a filtering and a storytelling ..and scary enough does not really care about facts ...unless they fit in and confirm the story .

          so this stuff on writing better .. is probably not getting randomly attracted or just manifesting .. it is amount information i would have been listening to anyway.. but because i have it in my mind to improve my writing skill at some point in the future .. my brain is picking it out .. and taking note rather than filtering it out ..as it probably would have months ago ..

          and when i'm ready to write then re write and rewrite and rewrite ..i will actually get better ..

          now i just try to think through and explain the mysterious stuff without sounding high ..
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          • Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

            now i just try to think through and explain the mysterious stuff without sounding high ..
            It's only mysterious, because you don't know how it works. Nothing by its nature is mysterious. Some things are just not understood well.

            On a related subject (not really addressed to you), there seems to be a consensus that some things are "Unknowable" or "Unfathomable".

            But just because something is mysterious to someone, doesn't mean it's a mystery to everyone.
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      • Profile picture of the author IGotMine
        Originally Posted by Just Jess View Post

        It's pretty much automatic as I use specific hypnosis to breakthrough to the next level. I am siphoning energy from the universe this way and match the frequencies of the desired effect so to manifest.
        And all along I've been using non-specific hypnosis.

        Frequency matching...what an awesome concept. Do you need your tinfoil hat for that? Or do you use magic rocks or something?
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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        Originally Posted by Just Jess View Post

        It's pretty much automatic as I use specific hypnosis to breakthrough to the next level. I am siphoning energy from the universe this way and match the frequencies of the desired effect so to manifest.
        Phew, you have pretty much opened a can or worms here, but here is my take, (and yep l have gone through the Cosmic Master website, and the Secret).

        After the Secret, l visualized my brains out that l wanted to find as much cash as is possible on the street, etc. I know specific, (so l visualized 100k).

        And l ended up with being in the right place and time, over and over again finding a few bucks, (once in a park, in the middle of the road, and so forth) but Never any more, and this happened every few months like clockwork, so it does work, but it also doesn't work.

        It is unlikely that you will achieve the kind of success you really want at least until Astrological charts are in your favour, and you have worked hard to get there.

        I am in the zone regarding astrology, but am still having issues regarding what l am presently doing, and watching tons of video's, etc every day is helping clarify my options, as well as trading.

        It is impossible for the Cosmic Master principles to work 100% of the time, with business models that lean towards those principles, so any way you cut it, it will fail occasionally.

        So learning how and when to use them, so you can minimize your losses is the trick, one l am still figuring out.

        But l have certainly learned that at least two stock trading methods are remarkably similar just packaged differently.

        And visualizing and reading books helps to keep you going, but overall not much else.

        Since it is only a matter of time, until a few years roll past and the frickin BMW is still not sitting in your driveway, and you ditch the Secret and dream boards and reading goals twice a day.

        There is such a thing as doing too much reading and visualizing, l see a nice tropical image in the paper and imagine being in the picture, but no more as it will only lead to disappointed.

        There is also a lot of power in staying with one thing only, and keeping at it, learning all you can and actually doing it until it works, (and works meaning others have done it, and can show solid proof).

        No doubt that is what others are referring to, and l agree with the motivational books one. Motivational books are a comforting security blanket, and a couple may instill some good ideas, but overall it is a golden teddy bear.

        I still occasionally read one, but am also watching a lot of video's on SEC rulings, penny stocks and how the market is manipulated by media and big investors as well as trying out different trading methods.

        Someone who meditates for 8 hours a day, and visualizes may find a penny stock that becomes the next Apple, but someone who gets their hands dirty in the year or more before that one takes off, will be much further ahead, (more stressed herhaps, but wiser and with more experience behind them, and more confident that their way of doing things is the right way for them).

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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    instead of feeling like you already have something.. the feeling you should have is the feeling you think having something will give you ..

    a big block to the law of attraction or the thing you are trying to attract ..the mindset of trying to only feel the feeling to get the thing .. or only feeling the feeling to get the thing ..

    you are after the feeling something gives you by getting it .. or owning it. so the crytical thing is to find ways to have those feelings before having that thing.. and allow for the universe to bring several other things outside your awareness that will bring the same emotion

    another block.. is that we demand or try to control how something will come .. or put great limits on it ..

    how does the saying go ..it is always easier to find a job .. when you still have a job .. than when you don't have a job..

    and at this point Facebook friend suggestions ..google and you tube search engines work of law of attraction like principle.. as your search results are based off things you have searched for in the past or what people like you have searched for ..

    You create you're own reality ..before you get in to trying to attract new things into the reality you create.. get a grasp on what you are doing to create the reality you have or attract into your relative what you are at this point ..

    The past does not create the present.. when something happens.. you attempt to tie events together in the past to explain why things happen .. which people use to explain why the law of attraction works.. but of course they ignore a bunch of stuff that they are trying to attract and never come.. and only hold up the things that do ..
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  • Problem I got with the Law of Attraction is how guys wanna ogle my ass in WalMart when all I wanna do is figure WHICH ZUCCHINI for the EAT-AT-HOME feast likely ima carbonize bcs DITZ.

    Those guys wanna STARVE or what?
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    Feel fear - however unpleasant - clear fear, and desperation dissolves. I had to feel fear fueling desperation to release the energy, to let go the desperate feeling. Highly uncomfortable process but it moved me up the energetic ladder quite quickly.
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      Originally Posted by ryanbiddulph View Post

      Feel fear - however unpleasant - clear fear, and desperation dissolves. I had to feel fear fueling desperation to release the energy, to let go the desperate feeling. Highly uncomfortable process but it moved me up the energetic ladder quite quickly.

      but what if fear has a machete and a hockey mask and you're both locked in a haunted high school
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    . I am siphoning energy from the universe this way and match the frequencies of the desired effect so to manifest.

    Run that by a real quantum physicist and see how hard he laughs.
    ...or a theoretical physical chemist for that matter


    It's good to be positive and open to possibilities - then there is naval gazing while psycho babbling. At a certain point in self improvement and watching 'The Secret' you have to decide which side you'll land on.
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  • Profile picture of the author GordonJ
    Originally Posted by Just Jess View Post



    an important secret to manifest your desire.


    "DON'T BE DESPERATE "

    I'm not a law of attraction expert by any means. I'm just a a beginner in Law of attraction but what I've just told is taken from the words of law of attraction masters.
    Best of Luck Because you are AWESOME & you deserve it.
    NO, you are not an expert, but I am. So let me show you the REAL reason for manifesting goals. You can find real life, real time examples here at Warrior by going to the WARRIOR PATH sub forum and following the threads of both Michael Meany (10,000 youtube subscribers) and savidge4, 40 to 250.

    You are right, you need a goal. A desire as you state it. But then your understanding of manifestation falls apart pretty quickly.

    A goal is the starting point and finish line, but the MOVEMENT between the two, the action taken from one to the other isn't accomplished in mind, but in body.

    Manifestation is about the ACTION you take, and includes mental activity...but thought alone will often as not produce delusion.

    Thank god I'm here.

    GordonJ
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  • Gotta figure always how the diffrence between desperation an' enthoosiasm is a downhome mindset flip of a coin.

    You can only evah play the tables with whatevah you bring along.

    An' you can't evah dictate how any tables gonna play.

    I would want always to approach this deal from the POV of DESIRE steada NECESSITY, cos that way, mebbe I can flux sum Sparky into Inevitability's dismal plunge into the Abyss an' offer a HALO OF LIGHT says if'n you can climb back up, next step is flyin' ...

    SORRY, PRINCESS -- THAT'S JUST HYPERBOLE

    No it ain't. It is also plenty other stuff besides hyperbole, kinda like whenya order pizza an' throw in stoopid extras like corn dogs an' drinks an' stuff. You on a carbs diet or whaaat?
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  • Profile picture of the author chuckholmes
    People want to do business with people who are successful, confident and know what they are doing. People want to do business with people they like, know and trust.

    Work on yourself every day. Have a personal development plan. Read books, listen to audio training, watch helpful YouTube videos, attend events, etc. Do anything and everything to grow you.

    Surround yourself with others who uplift you and encourage you. Avoid the haters and naysayers.

    Everything you say, think and do is either moving you closer to your goal or further from it. Choose wisely!
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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    Palm.. so you really mean study people who have success where you want to have success.

    I like cooking.. but have no interest in being a top chef or running a restaurant . So i study people who grow food on small amounts of land and have 6 figure plus businesses ..with very good profit margins .

    now I do want something i can dry/dehydrate Package market on the web and ship.. so i have been looking at different thinks .. that is a much more likely to put food on the table.. literal.. business .. than any writing i would do..

    Although the things i am studing have great potential to make 6 figure plus businesses.. It is stuff i want to do .. and once i get to the next part of my journey where i can set up my first business .. if it just put a roof over my head food on the table and a few other niceties.. thats sucess for me .. being in an environment i thrive in doing something that is calling me ..

    when the weather is bad .. i might write stuff i'm thinking about
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    • Profile picture of the author palmtreelife
      if it just put a roof over my head food on the table and a few other niceties.. thats sucess for me
      Funny you mention this as I considered touching on it earlier, but the post was already long enough. Not many here know my story, but one part of it is this: I quit my well paying, cushy Federal Government (cubicle) job 5-6 years ago to pursue happiness. I always wanted to live on the beach. I learned you don't need millions to do so. I figured it out over a few short months and moved to Turks and Caicos, leaving everything behind.

      Getting to your point....in order to do this, I had to go back to basics and determine what did I need in the most basic form to be happy in Turks and Caicos? Answer: a roof over my head, food on the table and a few niceties....such as the ability to walk the beach every day (free and accessible), have a cocktail beachside at sunset ($10), swim in the ocean (free and accessible), etc. I started out that way and have steadily improved my lifestyle and contributions to the community since then to carve out a nice little life here. It started out though with the basics...a roof, food, and a few niceties. That's all. When I move again, I will get into that same frame of mind of being grateful for the little things.

      Many people have moved here and left. There are many reasons people leave, but I feel a big one has to do with them not fully letting go of where they came from. They can't live without the luxuries of "home" or what they're used to. They couldn't embrace a little bit of change. The palm tree life is not for everyone, but it's important to find out what is.
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      • Profile picture of the author Odahh
        Originally Posted by palmtreelife View Post

        Getting to your point....in order to do this, I had to go back to basics and determine what did I need in the most basic form to be happy in Turks and Caicos? Answer: a roof over my head, food on the table and a few niceties....such as the ability to walk the beach every day (free and accessible), have a cocktail beachside at sunset ($10), swim in the ocean (free and accessible), etc. I started out that way and have steadily improved my lifestyle and contributions to the community since then to carve out a nice little life here. It started out though with the basics...a roof, food, and a few niceties. That's all. When I move again, I will get into that same frame of mind of being grateful for the little things.

        .

        At this point i am split between moving to Hawaii or Florida /Florida keys ..right now it looks like southern Florida is going to win.. that will allow me to travel around the Caribbean on a regular basis .. now i have made the choice to go in the next few weeks or a month.. but didn't have the money to make the move.. and i got word yesterday there is an amount of money coming to me soon.. have no idea how much or how soon soon is .. (but law of attraction work as it will)

        I will disagree with you though i don't think happiness is something you chase.. it is our natural state but it is also an emotion and we are not meant to be happy all the time ..it is unhealthy or a problem is we get stuck in any one emotion ..

        list the things you do that make you unhappy then stop doing those things..but boredom is the true enemy ..so it is critical to prioritize excitement ..but not the kind of excitement that results in unhappiness
        stuff you can either happily tell people about .. or stuff you can hide that you did.. but someone else will start telling other that some nice person did this thing..
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  • Profile picture of the author Just Jess
    Good points Grumpy Cat, the underlying notion is not to feel bad about failure and keep visualizing no matter what. In time the mind will be trained to deal with circumstances that previously were out of reach.

    I remember wanting to learn how to ride a motorcycle and one night lost myself in trance visualizing I was a bad-@$$ and listening to a deep trance track and the rest is history. Next morning I was speeding 230 km/hour on the highway. My visualization also showed me to slow down, so I did. First ride and I was blasting through the wind.

    Still alive though.

    Also people fail to make visualization work, well because visualization may poke at you with your worst fears and that's something folks can't stand dealing with. I'm not an expert but still learning the ropes.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by Just Jess View Post

      Good points Grumpy Cat, the underlying notion is not to feel bad about failure and keep visualizing no matter what. In time the mind will be trained to deal with circumstances that previously were out of reach.

      I remember wanting to learn how to ride a motorcycle and one night lost myself in trance visualizing I was a bad-@$$ and listening to a deep trance track and the rest is history. Next morning I was speeding 230 km/hour on the highway. My visualization also showed me to slow down, so I did. First ride and I was blasting through the wind.

      Still alive though.

      Also people fail to make visualization work, well because visualization may poke at you with your worst fears and that's something folks can't stand dealing with. I'm not an expert but still learning the ropes.
      Ok, visualizing may help, but trying to achieve a goal and failing also works.

      I have been trying to get to a certain level in Super Mario for the, (latest console) at the local tv store for a good part of a year and kept failing, then recently when l was still getting over a food poisioning thing, l was relaxed and didn't really care, but still gave it a try.

      Had the best run ever and got all the way to the temple, (this was on one of those limited time demo displays) and maybe visualizing would have done the same thing, maybe not.

      but being relaxed with a lot of failure or experience behind me seemed to do the trick.

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    • Originally Posted by Just Jess View Post

      Good points Grumpy Cat, the underlying notion is not to feel bad about failure and keep visualizing no matter what. In time the mind will be trained to deal with circumstances that previously were out of reach.

      I remember wanting to learn how to ride a motorcycle and one night lost myself in trance visualizing I was a bad-@$$ and listening to a deep trance track and the rest is history. Next morning I was speeding 230 km/hour on the highway. My visualization also showed me to slow down, so I did. First ride and I was blasting through the wind.

      Still alive though.

      Also people fail to make visualization work, well because visualization may poke at you with your worst fears and that's something folks can't stand dealing with. I'm not an expert but still learning the ropes.
      I'm going to ask a sincere question. I read the words Cosmic Master, and don't know what it means. So...I looked it up.

      https://www.aetherius.org/the-extrat...osmic-masters/..

      Is this what you guys are talking about?
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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        I'm going to ask a sincere question. I read the words Cosmic Master, and don't know what it means. So...I looked it up.

        https://www.aetherius.org/the-extrat...osmic-masters/..

        Is this what you guys are talking about?
        Yep, and l did read through most of the site to understand what they are fluffing about, but l don't really see how it can be of any real benefit apart from a motivating one, or if you have an interest in life and universe and everything?

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        • Profile picture of the author GordonJ
          Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

          Yep, and l did read through most of the site to understand what they are fluffing about, but l don't really see how it can be of any real benefit apart from a motivating one, or if you have an interest in life and universe and everything?

          Claude, YouTube has tons of the Cosmic Master at work. Can't argue with his business model and refunds, NO! Don't even ask.

          Whatever his market, it is a small slice of the LOA/Manifesting pie.

          Placebos are alive and well, and work for % of the masses.

          Advanced Cosmos Mastery eliminates hypnosis as a tool, and WHOLE MIND INSTANT subconscious program changes are made...well, Instantly!

          But hypnosis, may be a good first step for SOME.

          Those wanting to manifest via hypnosis are in for a long haul, time wise, compared to modern new age new thought (which probably corresponds with the millennial generation) INSTANT LOA.

          GordonJ

          PS A true Master doesn't need to communicate via the five senses, so has no need for sound tracks, audio programs, videos...and I could probably teach most people, and also have a NO refund policy.
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          • Profile picture of the author Odahh
            Originally Posted by GordonJ View Post


            GordonJ

            PS A true Master doesn't need to communicate via the five senses, so has no need for sound tracks, audio programs, videos...and I could probably teach most people, and also have a NO refund policy.
            well mastery includes learning and using the near unlimited senses past the 5 sense ..for no other reason than it make the experience in creation ..more interesting and rich .

            it is all an illusion we create . so the process of creating is far more the point.. then the thing we believe are real .. the thing we think are the point of creating in creation .

            it's not the things people really want it is the experiences people think they want once they have the things.. but the joyfull experience are more tied to the processes of creating the manifestation .. in way you know you can do over and over.

            and not trying to please some external force through hypnosis or chanting or listening to beat .. you get in the feeling place that helps you manifest not to manifest.. but because it is so much more enjoyable to be in that place .

            In any case..im not trying to be understood this time .. i do not care .. i just felt like writing and posting that .. it pleased me ..
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  • Profile picture of the author Mr Blip
    Do this in real life. Life is a game.
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  • Profile picture of the author ERIC BLACKWOOD
    This is a very stimulating talk, thank you and big props to you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
    You're awesome too Jess. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
    : )
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  • Profile picture of the author Jose Fourino
    His energy field is inconceivable, gives you a super pump to accomplish incredible feats.
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  • Profile picture of the author hcraige
    Don't be desperate is another way of saying: Have Positive Expectation

    The other side is this expectation is pragmatic realism.

    YOU MUST HAVE YOUR GOALS MAPPED OUT AND A LOGICAL PLAN TO ACHIEVE THEM

    The law of attraction does prove focused intent works, just like prayer in religion, but action is where the rubber really meets the road.

    That is the essential part many miss when they speak about the law of attraction or reference it.

    You must do the work

    Best of luck

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  • Profile picture of the author spartan14
    This its totaly true we must feel so powerful that we always think we have this thing
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  • Profile picture of the author lisaxiao
    Life is alive, work is good, love and family are also, there will always be ups and downs. Today's Golden List title, promotion and wealth, maybe tomorrow will face the situation of nothing, found that life really has no headway.

    First of all, understand that everyone will encounter a trough, and the trough is temporary.
    In decades of life, absolutely no one can go smoothly. So it's absolutely not your own business to run into a trough. It's not your bad luck. Success like Ma Yun, there are also early days when sleeping on the office floor, let alone you? You see the brightness of the people around you, but they bury their pain behind their smiles. Life is not easy, everyone is the same.

    However, life can not always be low, this period of time will always pass.
    Schedule your work and rest so that you don't let yourself be idle. Don't waste time
    Get up early and go to bed early every day. These stereotypes are far more important than you are. Many people, at a low ebb, begin to abandon themselves. The food is not good, the sleep is not good. All kinds of plans and learning goals set in peacetime have been abandoned.

    Only in the world of games or mobile phones can we get instant peace of mind. But then? In the long run, you can only become more and more decadent. Even I began to hate myself. How can such a person counter-attack? So, if you're at a low point, start now and live each day well.
    Take advantage of strengths and avoid weaknesses, and make good plans. Work hard every day

    It's not your fault to be in a low ebb, it's just the fate of life. However, you can't complain about it. Find out your shortcomings and shortcomings, through reading, class, consulting others to overcome; Find your strengths, through the same way to play its best. But people are lazy. You need to plan carefully what you do every day, what you achieve every week and every month. Compared with the trough, the waste of time is more painful. After all, the trough will pass, but time will never return. Make good use of it. The downturn is the turning point in your life when you overtake.

    Avoid negative news and avoid dealing with people who attack you
    When people are in a low ebb, their psychology is relatively fragile. The occasional negative news you hear somewhere may cause your self-confidence to collapse in an instant. Please stay away from the source of these messages. At the same time, stay away from those around you who always have negative emotions. Sometimes he or she is just venturing, but for you, the other side's blow will make you very painful. Protect yourself from negative news.

    Believe that the future is bright and the road is tortuous
    But it still runs into a wall many times. What should we do at this time? All you need to do is keep working hard and wait.
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  • Profile picture of the author bifrmcm
    I witnessed how the Master sculpted my reality just by listening to his impeccable words, strung together to cause a reaction from the subconscious mind.
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  • Profile picture of the author Just Jess
    This is the Cosmic Master website in case you're wondering.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mr Blip
    Ridiculous amount of quality audios for those who strive to strike gold.I'm usually skeptical about the law of attraction but Cosmic Master hypnosis delivers and hits a nerve in me. There are many titles that jolt the spirit like the Super Consciousness Matrix, Psionic Charmer and the Quantum Spirit to name a few. This is something I can easily understand and identify with and that's hypnosis. I've had my own share of experiences based on the embodiment of an unseen force that reckons no limits.

    I know it sounds like a tall order but the powers that be are here, ready to impregnate your reality if you allow entrance of the hypnotic recordings of the Cosmic Master's acoustic influence that eases the mind to conceive the unthinkable. So yes don't be desperate. Let the Cosmic Master programs swerve deep inside you and within a reasonable timeframe, greatness is on its way. Just keep the mind open, take notes and be an observer (and active participant) of a reality you concoct with the sheer power of the will.
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    • Originally Posted by Mr Blip View Post

      I know it sounds like a tall order but the powers that be are here, ready to impregnate your reality if you allow entrance of the hypnotic recordings of the Cosmic Master's acoustic influence that eases the mind to conceive the unthinkable.
      Tellya, las' time my reality got impregnated was las' week when I had my bestie Amy over for lunch.

      I took TWO WHOLE SWEET PEPPERS an' STUFFED 'EM FULLA RICE & CHEESE ... an' I did naaaht incinerate 'em ... an' nowan DIED.

      tbh I attribyoot this life-changin' culinary success to two key universal laws ...

      1) I got lucky this time. Sure, a whole buncha baby seals DIED out there in the snow so's me an' Amy could dine sans regurgitation reflex, but such is karma, babe.

      2) We had Beyonce on Spotify as I stuffed -- all synched hypnotically with Zero Shame in the Shake Yer Tushy Dept till we darn near split our pants.
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    • Profile picture of the author GordonJ
      All manufactured acoustics are lightweights compared to the sounds of nature, and those pale beside the constant electrical hum of god.

      But, like training wheels for toddlers; music, binaural beats, visual stimuli can help train the neophyte.

      GordonJ
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  • Profile picture of the author Charlie Ashton
    He has mastered the art of galvanizing the subconscious mind and breeding a winner out of you.
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    We must always be confident in ourselves and in what we do.
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  • Profile picture of the author ERIC BLACKWOOD
    You have to learn to pull not push and you won't be desperate any more. Things will flow to you.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by ERIC BLACKWOOD View Post

      You have to learn to pull not push and you won't be desperate any more. Things will flow to you.
      Except buttons on elevators. I find you have to push them......and some doors have to be pushed, not pulled.


      But everything else? Pulling is better.......

      .......Except making snowmen...then pushing the show ball is better.

      But everything else...pulling is better.

      ..........Except switches, some switches need to be pushed, not pulled.

      And pushing on a snow shovel.....that works better than pulling.

      But I swear to almighty God...that's it! Pulling is better in every other area.

      Even "pushing the envelope" would make more sense as "pulling the envelope".
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    • Profile picture of the author Princess Balestra
      Originally Posted by ERIC BLACKWOOD View Post

      You have to learn to pull not push and you won't be desperate any more. Things will flow to you.
      "Suck before you squirt" got a long history as a transformative mantra.

      Back in the day when Mediterranean monasteries got all kindsa reasons for keepin' livestock an' growin' vegetables ... they also figured on the seemingly purposeless benefits of lemons as pseudo-legumes.

      Sure, cabbage would feed 'em, an' mebbe their assembled chickens & stuff would lay eggs, but always the monks would set aside space among the cloisters for lemons.

      An' if'n you evah sucked hard on a lemon, you'll know why these guys prized this kinda soulful juice-in-a-citrus-rhino-skin.

      Ain't no way you can look in on alla that pinpoint flavor without no tears streamin' outta your eyes.

      It is the ultimate Intake Prior To Squirt scenario, an' them stoically unflappable monk guys tested 'emselves real regulah on a Die or Do ticket 'steada cavin' in to satisfyin' baser desires.

      Evry Sunday night was Tear Duct Night.

      (Course, in sum parts of the world, the monks maxed out on a PUSH ticket an' invented bone-crackin' martial arts -- reframin' it as self defence for anywan don't got a shaved head & daily rituals say they gotta commune with beetles an' grass.)

      This acid froot wisdom persists today -- an' it is on display is most bars, planetwide.

      Had it not been for them monks, nowan would evah stuff no cocktails with lemons.

      Nowan would evah chomp hard on no lemon slice while affectin' bonhomie with their peers in no bar over conversations 'bout gun laws or feline rectal health ishoos ... an' then weep a little.

      Alternative is ... onions.

      But that would be real stoopid, speshly for weddings.

      For sure the monks grew them skin-layered babies, but they mostly made 'em into stew 'steada suckin' 'em bcs the squirt pain way too traumatic.

      (Anywan sliced onions while preparin' a meal for friends will know how the local takeout joint is preferable to invitin' upon yrself no sensation of imminent suicide.)

      Gotta figure there is a celebrity TV show in this.

      The Lemon vs Onion Suck Squirt Challenge.

      I would pay to see Gwyneth Paltrow take on Arnie.

      Major merchandise possiblilities for srs IMers also.

      Bill Gates vs Putin.

      C'mon Netflix, where in hell are ya?
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  • Profile picture of the author socialentry
    Originally Posted by Just Jess View Post

    Quick Tip:-
    let me tell an important secret to manifest your desire.
    "DON'T BE DESPERATE "
    An important part of the law of attraction process is to feel as if you already have it.
    And when you have something then you can't feel desperate for it. So just visualize properly and let it go.
    Let your subconscious mind or the universe take care of it. There is a huge number of stories where this idea have been proved to be phenomenal.
    Ask, feel , let it go & receive.
    By the way, I'm not a law of attraction expert by any means. I'm just a a beginner in Law of attraction but what I've just told is taken from the words of law of attraction masters.
    Best of Luck Because you are AWESOME & you deserve it.

    But what if you're being chased by terrorists?
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    • Profile picture of the author ERIC BLACKWOOD
      Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

      But what if you're being chased by terrorists?
      You pull a fast one
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  • Profile picture of the author MichaelQuinn
    I struggle considerably with all of this law of attraction stuff, ugh :/
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  • Profile picture of the author Master Blake
    Lack of knowledge will lead to desperation and ultimately depression.

    What if there was a spiritual force that showed you the exact steps to take so you don't end up running around in circles? This force is called "subconscious". It has stored in there information you must wipe out or amplify the key ones.


    That sums it up. Of course, success is in the details.
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