149 replies
The Universe responds to your frequency.. It doesn't recognise your personal desires, wants or needs. It only understands the frequency in which you are vibrating at. For example; if you are vibrating in the frequency of fear, guilt or shame you are going to attract things of a similar vibration.

If you are vibrating love, joy and abundance, you are going to attract things that support that frequency. It's kinda like tuning into a radio station. You have to be tunng into the music you want to listen to just like you have to be tuned into the energy you want to manifest into your life. Change your mindset, it will change your life.
#read #slowly
  • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
    Originally Posted by Tshep0325 View Post

    The Universe responds to your frequency.. It doesn't recognise your personal desires, wants or needs. It only understands the frequency in which you are vibrating at. For example; if you are vibrating in the frequency of fear, guilt or shame you are going to attract things of a similar vibration.

    If you are vibrating love, joy and abundance, you are going to attract things that support that frequency. It's kinda like tuning into a radio station. You have to be tunng into the music you want to listen to just like you have to be tuned into the energy you want to manifest into your life. Change your mindset, it will change your life.
    You are going to love it here.
    Signature
    One Call Closing book https://www.amazon.com/One-Call-Clos...=1527788418&sr

    What if they're not stars? What if they are holes poked in the top of a container so we can breath?
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11561528].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
    I read it slowly. And dismissed it instantly.
    Signature


    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11561529].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    I read it fast - no time to waste.


    With about 8 billion people on the planet I doubt if the universe notices my 'vibrations' at all. if all of us vibrate at once it could get noisy....
    Signature
    Saving one dog will not change the world - but the world changes forever for that one dog
    ***
    One secret to happiness is to let every situation be
    what it is instead of what you think it should be.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11561534].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Tshep0325
    Haha Kay . The universe doesn't care about our desires, wants or needs. It only understands the frequency at which you vibrating at. By the way there are ways to practice the Law of Attraction and I use them everyday.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11561537].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    ways to practice the Law of Attraction

    I wondereed when this would go 'there'. Dozens of old threads on that subject here already..but some are always ready to discuss it.



    Please use the multi-quote or quotes - rather than make a separate post when responding to several people. Thanks.
    Signature
    Saving one dog will not change the world - but the world changes forever for that one dog
    ***
    One secret to happiness is to let every situation be
    what it is instead of what you think it should be.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11561555].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author DABK
      I read it slowly and nothing happened. Should I read it backwards too?
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11561573].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author Ron Lafuddy
        I played it backwards. Paul is dead.
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11561591].message }}
        • Profile picture of the author DABK
          Poor Paul I miss him so much.



          Originally Posted by Ron Lafuddy View Post

          I played it backwards. Paul is dead.
          {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11562222].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author tryinhere
    Originally Posted by Tshep0325 View Post

    The Universe responds to your frequency.. It doesn't recognise your personal desires, wants or needs. It only understands the frequency in which you are vibrating at. For example; if you are vibrating in the frequency of fear, guilt or shame you are going to attract things of a similar vibration.

    If you are vibrating love, joy and abundance, you are going to attract things that support that frequency. It's kinda like tuning into a radio station. You have to be tunng into the music you want to listen to just like you have to be tuned into the energy you want to manifest into your life. Change your mindset, it will change your life.
    I says to the wife, I says Darlin, My little Darlins, Did you know if you adjusts the speed you vibrate at, your world will be filled with more Love, Joy and Abundance ? Don't know what happened much after that, but She slapped me bloody Hard is all I Know.
    Signature
    | > Choosing to go off the grid for a while to focus on family, work and life in general. Have a great 2020 < |
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11561622].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author IGotMine
    If you are vibrating love, joy and abundance, you are going to attract things
    ...that identify you as a victim and take everything you have of value.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11561638].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author spartan14
    Well i am totaly agree with this ,but this its ot as easy as it sounds .As you can have blocks in your subconstiwntind that sabotage you
    Signature

    Admin note: Affiliate links are not allowed in paid user sigs

    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11561652].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
    Slowly me read it I did and nothing happened. Grabbed a roll of tin foil, made a hat and Wow what a difference aka Law of Attraction.
    Signature
    In the minute it took me to write this post.. someone died of Covid 19. RIP.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11561678].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    Originally Posted by Tshep0325 View Post

    The Universe responds to your frequency.. It doesn't recognise your personal desires, wants or needs. It only understands the frequency in which you are vibrating at. For example; if you are vibrating in the frequency of fear, guilt or shame you are going to attract things of a similar vibration.

    If you are vibrating love, joy and abundance, you are going to attract things that support that frequency. It's kinda like tuning into a radio station. You have to be tunng into the music you want to listen to just like you have to be tuned into the energy you want to manifest into your life. Change your mindset, it will change your life.
    now say this is true .. can you even measure the frequency you are vibrating at.. or are you wishfully thinking you are vibrating at such a frequency .

    if you don't learn the power of words and the real meaning of the words you use ..

    your vocal cords vibrate and send a message outside of you .and it is with your words you describe the experience you created .

    technically you never practice the law of attraction it is always present ,the best you can hope to manage is to retrain yourself on the way you use words to describe experience ,emotions, the current state of reality .

    it is hard to believe or really vibrate abundance . when you are trained to value thing in short supply, or rare .. or unique .. the sunrise or the sunset.. who cares about the rest of the day .

    you create with your words .. that is the main way you send vibration into the universe .
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11561679].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author tryinhere
    Signature
    | > Choosing to go off the grid for a while to focus on family, work and life in general. Have a great 2020 < |
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11561713].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Bald Avenger
    Slowly makes a low pitched noise.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11561728].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author EstelleBerry
    I have read excellent tips and information here ... I am grateful to all of you
    mespornogratis
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11561770].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author DABK
      No, you didn't.

      Oh, wait, you read it extra slow and it revealed the meaning of the universe.
      I wish I could read as slowly as you. Bane of my life, I just can't read slow slow. I try, I really do, but before you can say, Amen, brother, I'm reading hundreds of words a minute. I just don't know what's the matter with me.


      Originally Posted by EstelleBerry View Post

      I have read excellent tips and information here ... I am grateful to all of you
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11561791].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author PardameanTumbur
    Originally Posted by Tshep0325 View Post

    The Universe responds to your frequency.. It doesn't recognise your personal desires, wants or needs. It only understands the frequency in which you are vibrating at. For example; if you are vibrating in the frequency of fear, guilt or shame you are going to attract things of a similar vibration.

    If you are vibrating love, joy and abundance, you are going to attract things that support that frequency. It's kinda like tuning into a radio station. You have to be tunng into the music you want to listen to just like you have to be tuned into the energy you want to manifest into your life. Change your mindset, it will change your life.

    supposed to be "Change your Vibration, it will change your life."
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11561798].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    Please use the multi-quote or quotes - rather than make a separate post when responding to several people. Thanks.

    Not a suggestion - a requirement. Suggest you click your user name in the black toolbar at top of page...from the dropdown menu click on the 'gold' box that says "view classic" - and switch to the more user friendly view of the forum.


    It is NOT acceptable to make several posts of one line each one after the other.
    Signature
    Saving one dog will not change the world - but the world changes forever for that one dog
    ***
    One secret to happiness is to let every situation be
    what it is instead of what you think it should be.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11562030].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author tryinhere
      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      Not a suggestion - a requirement. Suggest you click your user name in the black toolbar at top of page...from the dropdown menu click on the 'gold' box that says "view classic" - and switch to the more user friendly view of the forum.


      It is NOT acceptable to make several posts of one line each one after the other.
      I see our OP has changed his sig to now spam his / her affiliate offer and that the only vibration they want is clicks on that link.

      What a sad fecker coming here and playing switch with seasoned people who can smell bullship from a green horn a hundred yards away.
      Signature
      | > Choosing to go off the grid for a while to focus on family, work and life in general. Have a great 2020 < |
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11562092].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
    Banned
    Personally I think there's a lot of truth to the "Law Of Attraction" premise: As it's been said: "What a Person thinks about, they bring about." It could have been completely dismissed -- and that would have been it -- with the arrival of "The Secret" movie back in 2006.

    However People are still talking about it, discussing it, and using it to be more successful in their lives.

    Unfortunately I don't think LOA works quite like it was portrayed/illustrated in the movie "The Secret." For example a Person sitting in their arm chair visualizing driving a Ferrari won't instantly "manifest" that into their Lives. In fact some of the beliefs could actually be "dangerous."

    For instance "The Secret" states that a Person "attracts/creates" everything in their Lives. Something that many cults do is mix a lot of truth with a lot of lies -- so it's difficult to tell the difference between the two. And some of the quotations in the Movie/Book are actually taken out of context.

    I could be wrong however I think some of it was meant to be "controversial". Why? So that it would get People talking/discussing it.

    "There's no such thing as bad publicity" as they say. And every time a Person argues against it, many People respond for it -- creating more publicity.

    Actually "The Law Of Attraction" concept began in the early 19th Century with The New Thought Movement: Everything from "The Science of Getting Rich" (Wallace Wattles) to "Think And Grow Rich" (Napoleon Hill). An important part of the "creation/manifesting" process is taking action. As Wallace Wattles said: "By thought, the thing you want is brought to you ... By action you receive it." Napoleon Hill was also clear about "Organized Planning."

    Essentially I think a Person's thoughts creates their reality. And "positive thinking" can do a World of good in the success process. I don't know 100% how it works, just that we really do "attract" what we think about.
    Signature
    "Each problem has hidden in it an opportunity so powerful that it literally dwarfs the problem. The greatest success stories were created by people who recognized a problem and turned it into an opportunity."―Joseph Sugarman
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11562047].message }}
    • Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

      Essentially I think a Person's thoughts creates their reality. And "positive thinking" can do a World of good in the success process. I don't know 100% how it works, just that we really do "attract" what we think about.
      We don't attract what we think about.Your brain filters your reality based on past experiences, beliefs, whatever.

      You see the world through your own lens. That's not attraction, it's filtering.

      Your conscious reality is tiny. No way could your brain give you access to an unfiltered world. Way too much information. Not efficient based on your beliefs. You'd be overwhelmed to the point where you wouldn't be able to even function.

      That's what a filter is for. We all have our own filtering system.

      So, you don't attract. Your brain filters.

      You can look around your room at all the objects. Do a quick scan now. What did you see? You saw all of the objects in the room. You didn't set your brain to filter anything in particular out, or in.

      Now, look around the room, only this time just notice everything that's red.

      What happened?

      Did your brain "attract" those red objects? Or did it filter out everything else and just looked for red objects?

      That's your filtering system. That's your brain. That's reality. LOA is fluffy tripe used by con artists to prey on gullible people.

      But it works, you say. Yes, your filtering system works. All our filtering systems work.


      The Universe doesn't think you are special.
      Signature
      Strong Men and Women put themselves in harms way
      for the freedoms weak people give away for safety
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11562694].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
        Banned
        Originally Posted by Declan O Flaherty View Post

        We don't attract what we think about.Your brain filters your reality based on past experiences, beliefs, whatever.
        Hi Declan. I agree: As People we do filter out inofrmation/etc. You're right. There's also something called "conformation bias" ― which is basically when a Person has the tendency to interpret and select information (etc.) in a way that supports their beleifs and/or thinking.

        However, that said, I still there's some truth to the premise that we attract what we think about. Again ― I don't know exactly how it works ... Because I haven't researched it.

        WarriorForum Creator Allen Says was promoting/selling "LOA/New Thought" eBooks (including "The Master Key System") long before The Secret movie was produced: Was he a con artist preying on gullible People too?
        Signature
        "Each problem has hidden in it an opportunity so powerful that it literally dwarfs the problem. The greatest success stories were created by people who recognized a problem and turned it into an opportunity."―Joseph Sugarman
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11562757].message }}
        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post


          However, that said, I still there's some truth to the premise that we attract what we think about. Again ― I don't know exactly how it works ... Because I haven't researched it.
          Jonathan; You weren't asking me. But I want to reply anyway. I just love hearing the sound of my own voice.

          I have researched it. It has nothing to do with vibrations. But we filter out impressions and experiences that do not support our dominant mindset, and we look for...and readily accept anything that supports our core beliefs.

          If you think that you are lucky...you'll ignore evidence to the contrary, and interpret input to support your current reality. If you think you are undeserving...you'll find evidence to support that as well.

          One major flaw in thinking that your current mental state influences reality, is that it requires the entire planet, and everyone on it, to change how they behave, to bend reality to your "vibrational frequency".

          A relative once said to me "I just get money when I need it. It just comes to me." She thought it was some sort of magic. What I didn't tell her was that for this idea to work, everyone in the world would now be influenced by her personal need for money. Their decisions would change, they would spend differently....because she now needed money.

          Besides the obvious problems with such a belief, it means that nobody else on the planet has this "vibrational influence" except her. And for "wealth attraction" to work for anyone...t can't work for anyone else....because it would influence the buying and selling decisions of everyone else...to direct money toward this one person.

          The Law Of Attraction is soooo seductive. It makes us feel special. It makes us feel that the world is somehow conspiring to help us. But like many ideas like this..if you simply ask "OK, if it's true, how exactly does it work?" you'll soon see it break down.



          Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

          WarriorForum Creator Allen Says was promoting/selling "LOA/New Thought" eBooks (including "The Master Key System") long before The Secret movie was produced: Was he a con artist preying on gullible People too?
          Not necessarily a con artist. Some people who teach "New Age" stuff believe they are really teaching something of value. But it takes a specific mindset for these ideas to make sense.

          Here's a good rule of thumb. Was the idea discovered or invented?

          A discovered idea is the end result of study, inspecting evidence with a skeptical mind...and dispassionate. It is a result....a conclusion. Discoveries always stand up to skeptical testing, because thy are true. They are real. The attitude of the observer isn't part of it. And further study usually slightly changes the core idea, because learning is taking place.

          Invented ideas are started as a fully formed idea, and then passed on. They require belief, acceptance, and don't encourage testing. Their "evidence" is generally an analogy, comparing dissimilar things.. It engages the imagination, rather than the critical mind. And...these ideas remain static. They do not change over time, because there is no learning taking place.

          For example, what advancements in the Law Of Attraction theory have recently taken place? None, because it's not based on reality, but on imagination.

          To me...astoundingly....maybe 80-90% of what humans accept as true...is in the invented category.
          Signature
          One Call Closing book https://www.amazon.com/One-Call-Clos...=1527788418&sr

          What if they're not stars? What if they are holes poked in the top of a container so we can breath?
          {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11562770].message }}
          • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
            Banned
            Interesting: Thanks Claude. I'm open to the possibility that we don't send out "vibrations" (etc.) to "The Universe" -- at least not how it's illustrated in the movie.

            (I'm not even sure if I would like that happening anyway ...)

            However maybe there's some truth to it? Perhaps on some level we do perceive things out of our "consciousness?" I won't pretend I know everything ... However there was an experiment conducted where People in a supermarket were in a one-way mirror and told to kind of "stare" at shoppers walking by. And, basically, a statistically significant percentage of People looked around at the mirror thereby sensing someone was starting at them.

            Anyway, some quick anecdotal evidence (because I like hearing myself talk as well Lol) ... I did an "experiment" several years ago whereby I tried to "manifest" a packet of cigarettes. And within about half an hour I found some. OK. Could have been a coincidence, right?

            Well the next day (and I swear this is true) I found another packet ― the exact same brand -- with approximately the same amount of cigarettes.

            I'm not saying this is proof of LOA, however it's something to consider maybe

            All in all, I think it's important for a Person to choose positive and empowering thoughts -- especially as it relates to being a successful Entrepreneur.

            2C.
            Signature
            "Each problem has hidden in it an opportunity so powerful that it literally dwarfs the problem. The greatest success stories were created by people who recognized a problem and turned it into an opportunity."―Joseph Sugarman
            {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11562780].message }}
            • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
              Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

              However maybe there's some truth to it? Perhaps on some level we do perceive things out of our "consciousness?" I won't pretend I know everything ... However there was an experiment conducted where People in a supermarket were in a one-way mirror and told to kind of "stare" at shoppers walking by. And, basically, a statistically significant percentage of People looked around at the mirror thereby sensing someone was starting at them.
              Sooooo people walked by a mirror and looked at their reflection? Do you think that most people would normally not look at their reflection?




              Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post


              Anyway, some quick anecdotal evidence (because I like hearing myself talk as well Lol) ... I did an "experiment" several years ago whereby I tried to "manifest" a packet of cigarettes. And within about half an hour I found some. OK. Could have been a coincidence, right?

              Well the next day (and I swear this is true) I found another packet ― the exact same brand -- with approximately the same amount of cigarettes.

              I'm not saying this is proof of LOA, however it's something to consider maybe
              I just talked about this in my last post.

              So, you found two packs of cigarettes?

              Think of what would have to be true, in order for this to be anything like "manifesting".

              Your mind somehow controlled other people's minds to leave packs of cigarettes in a specific place so you could find them. Or....your mind somehow created these packs of cigarettes out of thin air....but not complete packs, just partial packs?

              There are one of two possibilities.
              1) You have the power to either control other people's minds..or you can control matter with your mind. Either way, you have the power of a god...and nobody else does.

              2) Two people just dropped their partial pack of cigarettes. And it had nothing to do with you.

              One of those is probably real.
              Signature
              One Call Closing book https://www.amazon.com/One-Call-Clos...=1527788418&sr

              What if they're not stars? What if they are holes poked in the top of a container so we can breath?
              {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11562790].message }}
              • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
                Banned
                Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                Sooooo people walked by a mirror and looked at their reflection? Do you think that most people would normally not look at their reflection?
                Sorry ― I didn't explain that very well. (Lol) Essentially, they measured how many People looked around at the mirror naturally without the People in the experiment looking at them, and then again with them. It's something that many People have experienced. Does it mean they are kind of sensing being stared at? I honestly have no idea. However I think it could be plausible.

                There are one of two possibilities.
                1) You have the power to either control other people's minds, or you can control matter with your mind. Either way, you have the power of a god...and nobody else does.
                (Lol) Good point. As I have read: "Human beings have no 'supernatural power' of their own." And I'm not sure I would want that anyway. Like I said, I don't know how it happened. Maybe something I haven't considered?

                2) Two people just dropped their partial pack of cigarettes. And it had nothing to do with you.

                One of those is probably real.
                When faced with those two choices I agree ― It was probably just a coincidence.
                : )
                Signature
                "Each problem has hidden in it an opportunity so powerful that it literally dwarfs the problem. The greatest success stories were created by people who recognized a problem and turned it into an opportunity."―Joseph Sugarman
                {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11562793].message }}
          • Profile picture of the author Odahh
            Claude it's not really an invented catagory . Although you probably look at religions as invented.

            You take many concepts that have been in most of the world's religions and attempt to practice them without the framework of a structured religion .

            I can find biblical passages that sound a lot like basic law of attraction. To he who has more will be given to he who has not more will be taken away .

            Figure out some practice that you hope will please a much greater power and hope blessings rain down from above .

            Blah blah blah sorry
            {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11562781].message }}
        • Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

          However, that said, I still there's some truth to the premise that we attract what we think about. Again ― I don't know exactly how it works ... Because I haven't researched it.
          I get you. Attraction is fine. I can attract a better class of customer if I communicate in a specific way, right? And that comes from my thoughts; how I think.

          Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

          WarriorForum Creator Allen Says was promoting/selling "LOA/New Thought" eBooks (including "The Master Key System") long before The Secret movie was produced: Was he a con artist preying on gullible People too?
          No. That's the thing. I'm not saying everyone who talks about or teaches this stuff is a co artist. Just like I wouldn't say that everyone who preaches the bible is a con artist. But there's no denying these types of claims, that can never be proven, WILL be used buy con artists to manipulate people. And are every single day.

          My Sister goes to Psychics. It does my head in. These people are clearly con artists who should be locked up. But they get away with it because we can't prove them 100% to be con artists.

          But they are. Clearly.
          Signature
          Strong Men and Women put themselves in harms way
          for the freedoms weak people give away for safety
          {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11562995].message }}
          • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
            Originally Posted by Declan O Flaherty View Post

            My Sister goes to Psychics. It does my head in. These people are clearly con artists who should be locked up. But they get away with it because we can't prove them 100% to be con artists.
            I doubt that providing any proof would help. Rather than change their world view when facts contradict their beliefs, people are more comfortable finding ways to justify their outlook.

            Psychologists call this phenomenon cognitive dissonance. We all experience it to a degree, and not just in the obvious fields such as politics and religion.
            Signature


            {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11562997].message }}
            • Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

              I doubt that providing any proof would help. Rather than change their world view when facts contradict their beliefs, people are more comfortable finding ways to justify their outlook.

              Psychologists call this phenomenon "cognitive dissonance". We all experience it to a degree, and not just in the obvious fields such as politics and religion.

              That's thing isn't it Frank, no amount of proof would be enough. It's easy to move furniture around the room to justify an illusive claim.

              The point I was making wasn't about people and their beliefs.It was about the lying scum who manipulate them for money.

              I know we all have our blind spots.
              Signature
              Strong Men and Women put themselves in harms way
              for the freedoms weak people give away for safety
              {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11563017].message }}
  • Anywan guess what frequency ima vibratin' at rn?


    Guess right ... an' you could win a STELLAR PRIZE.


    "The Law of Stupefaction turns to jelly all who lay their heads on its dumbass belly."
    Signature

    Lightin' fuses is for blowin' stuff togethah.

    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11562065].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author DABK
      1034.34 mhz?

      Originally Posted by Princess Balestra View Post

      Anywan guess what frequency ima vibratin' at rn?


      Guess right ... an' you could win a STELLAR PRIZE.


      "The Law of Stupefaction turns to jelly all who lay their heads on its dumbass belly."
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11562086].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Reddevil007
    But last time I heard energy follows thought process!
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11562106].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author codyhay
    That's nice.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11562107].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author AC DC
    Nice read. I have seen a lot of negative people giving out negative vibes to positive people.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11562133].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
      Originally Posted by AC DC View Post

      I have seen a lot of negative people giving out negative vibes to positive people.
      No you haven't.
      Signature


      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11562166].message }}
    • Originally Posted by AC DC View Post

      Nice read. I have seen a lot of negative people giving out negative vibes to positive people.

      Gotta figure always whether we wanna be eternal voyeurs of eternal inconsequence or chilled out cultural schwingdingers holdin' sway ovah whatevah happnin' next for evrywan.
      Signature

      Lightin' fuses is for blowin' stuff togethah.

      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11562176].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author GordonJ
    Originally Posted by Tshep0325 View Post

    The Universe responds to your frequency.. It doesn't recognise your personal desires, wants or needs. It only understands the frequency in which you are vibrating at. For example; if you are vibrating in the frequency of fear, guilt or shame you are going to attract things of a similar vibration.

    If you are vibrating love, joy and abundance, you are going to attract things that support that frequency. It's kinda like tuning into a radio station. You have to be tunng into the music you want to listen to just like you have to be tuned into the energy you want to manifest into your life. Change your mindset, it will change your life.
    https://youtu.be/uNmnroyJSzo

    What does a yellow light mean?

    And this post makes as much sense as Rev. Jim's life as a taxi driver.

    GordonJ
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11562427].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    Funny thing - I've never met a financially successful person who told me he sat around 'attracting' money - or that his 'vibrations' brought wealth.



    But - no dearth of those with metaphysical leanings and '6 figure income' clickfunnel sigs, is there?
    Signature
    Saving one dog will not change the world - but the world changes forever for that one dog
    ***
    One secret to happiness is to let every situation be
    what it is instead of what you think it should be.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11562445].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      Funny thing - I've never met a financially successful person who told me he sat around 'attracting' money - or that his 'vibrations' brought wealth.



      But - no dearth of those with metaphysical leanings and '6 figure income' clickfunnel sigs, is there?
      Same here. I've never known a wealthy person who became that way through "attracting money" to them...or through positive vibrations.

      The closest thing I've seen are offers to teach "Wealth Attraction" to people who are inclined to believe it. But the people selling the ...um...information....are using real marketing and selling methods. They aren't at all using what they teach.

      Like the people who sell "How to make money on Facebook" that use email lists, PPC advertising speak at events, and use direct mail.

      Selling something that sounds cool, trendy, or fantastic...but selling it by traditional methods.

      And......I still suggest asking millionaires how they got that way. After 100 or so, you'll get the idea that positive vibrations and "Manifesting wealth" aren't really part of it.
      Signature
      One Call Closing book https://www.amazon.com/One-Call-Clos...=1527788418&sr

      What if they're not stars? What if they are holes poked in the top of a container so we can breath?
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11562499].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author Odahh
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        Same here.

        Selling something that sounds cool, trendy, or fantastic...but selling it by traditional methods.

        And......I still suggest asking millionaires how they got that way. After 100 or so, you'll get the idea that positive vibrations and "Manifesting wealth" aren't really part of it.
        I'm biased from a few dozen successful people with wealth and several others who may not have had big net worths . But had very little or virtually no debt and could fit most of their expenses into the business they ran

        For the most part those I have met talked to actually did work they enjoyed and their businesses where their main source of entertainment .no real seperation of work and play .

        If they wanted to golf five days a week they would make golf some part of their revenue or client management .

        Or they just went mostly off the books which is why I dont really trust the income figures the government puts out .

        A person's biggest expense is the taxes they pay not just on income but everything . The rich people I know or not rich but not tied to a job . Usually can shift their biggest purchases .cars cloths computers medical insurance.into business expenses.

        Honestly if it was called the law of repulsion verse attraction and many focused on the many things people do to drive away the things they want and how to alter this behaviors .

        Once the behaviors and beliefs are identified then what is need can be attracted in . Without much real mystery or mystisysm .
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11562753].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author zarnecki
    Originally Posted by Tshep0325 View Post

    The Universe responds to your frequency.. It doesn't recognise your personal desires, wants or needs. It only understands the frequency in which you are vibrating at. For example; if you are vibrating in the frequency of fear, guilt or shame you are going to attract things of a similar vibration.

    If you are vibrating love, joy and abundance, you are going to attract things that support that frequency. It's kinda like tuning into a radio station. You have to be tunng into the music you want to listen to just like you have to be tuned into the energy you want to manifest into your life. Change your mindset, it will change your life.

    how many hertz am i vibrating at and why does the universe care?
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11562717].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    I think you mean 'confirmation bias' - that's when you believe the information that reinforces YOUR beliefs and ignore any evidence that discredits your pre-conceived beliefs.
    Signature
    Saving one dog will not change the world - but the world changes forever for that one dog
    ***
    One secret to happiness is to let every situation be
    what it is instead of what you think it should be.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11562766].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
      Banned
      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      I think you mean 'confirmation bias' - that's when you believe the information that reinforces YOUR beliefs and ignore any evidence that discredits your pre-conceived beliefs.
      Yep: That's it. Thanks: And that's what many People do with "LOA".
      (Both for and against.)
      :
      Signature
      "Each problem has hidden in it an opportunity so powerful that it literally dwarfs the problem. The greatest success stories were created by people who recognized a problem and turned it into an opportunity."―Joseph Sugarman
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11562767].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    John I'm to lazy to quote and erase most of your post . But have you used the trick that you used to find ciggarets. Which are not the best things to manifest . To manifest things that will lead to better health or better long term life improvement.

    The reason much of this information was restricted or hidden or kept secret because it is so much easier to manifest vices than virtues
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11562784].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
      Banned
      Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

      The reason much of this information was restricted or hidden or kept secret because it is so much easier to manifest vices than virtues
      Where did you get that information from, just out of curiosity.
      Signature
      "Each problem has hidden in it an opportunity so powerful that it literally dwarfs the problem. The greatest success stories were created by people who recognized a problem and turned it into an opportunity."―Joseph Sugarman
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11562785].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author DABK
        Sorry to disabuse you, Declan, but I just got off the phone with Universe: She confirms I am special. It seems I instinctively vibrate at a rate that makes her naughty parts tingle. So, nah!



        Originally Posted by Declan O Flaherty View Post

        The Universe doesn't think you are special.
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11562813].message }}
        • Originally Posted by DABK View Post

          Sorry to disabuse you, Declan, but I just got off the phone with Universe: She confirms I am special. It seems I instinctively vibrate at a rate that makes her naughty parts tingle. So, nah!

          Yeah, of course you're special. If the Universe can't see that, then the Universe doesn't know what she's missing. In fact, your special bus is leaving right now mate
          Signature
          Strong Men and Women put themselves in harms way
          for the freedoms weak people give away for safety
          {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11562996].message }}
          • Profile picture of the author DABK
            See? See? I done attracted me a bus! You wanna buy it? It's brand new and all shinny and stuff. Worth $120k but you can have it for a measly $50k if you act by the end of the week. Act by the end of today, and I'll throw in a top hat and a $50 amazon.com voucher, you can spend on anything, ANYTHING, on amazon's site!!!!





            Originally Posted by Declan O Flaherty View Post

            Yeah, of course you're special. If the Universe can't see that, then the Universe doesn't know what she's missing. In fact, your special bus is leaving right now mate
            {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11563029].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author Odahh
        Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

        Where did you get that information from, just out of curiosity.
        Well because this information use to only be available to people who could read and write .or to monks of verious religions and with access to libraries or other learned monks .

        So basically to people who had to learn personal discipline as well the other spiritual practices that go along with loa


        And until a hundred to two hundred years ago pretty much the only ones who could build wealth where those who where born rich . Or could build armies and rape pillage or plunder . Steal land take slaves all the pleastent stuff we call civilization of the past .

        And substance farmers in Europe normally ate all fresh local organic produce ,raw milk and the main meat was fish fresh caught .

        What is now the diet of the rich .

        Any case when only a few computers where in the world fifty years ago was the use of computers hidden from the masses or just beyong the apility of the time to provide access .

        When most of the masses where literate passing scrolls around written in ancient Greek or Latin . Was the only real way to educate people . And the masses didn't have the time when there was no machanicle devices to do work .
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11563220].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        One thing is a given in these threads - they will eventually reach the level of info 'hidden' or what 'the masses' do - etc. and somehow the oldies but goodies of TAGR and Robbins will be mentioned.


        Down the rabbit hole we go... Sorry, but in my view posting seriously about 'vibrations' and results of LOA is choosing the path into the enchanted (and not in a good way) forest.
        Signature
        Saving one dog will not change the world - but the world changes forever for that one dog
        ***
        One secret to happiness is to let every situation be
        what it is instead of what you think it should be.
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11563222].message }}
        • Profile picture of the author GordonJ
          Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

          One thing is a given in these threads - they will eventually reach the level of info 'hidden' or what 'the masses' do - etc. and someone the oldies but goodies of TAGR and Robbins will be mentioned.



          Down the rabbit hole we go... Sorry, but in my view posting seriously about 'vibrations' and results of LOA is choosing the path into the enchanted (and not in a good way) forest.
          the best the WF has to offer.

          Maybe, once we get deep into it (the enchanted forest), then the TRUTH, about aliens, and how we are nothing more than a science experiment for more advanced civilizations, those whose vibration are on a wave we have not yet discovered...or

          We can then leap to Element 115, the Illuminati, Masons, and then we discover there really were unicorns who frolicked while Noah was loading the ark.

          Always have wondered why and how this became the Mind Warriors sub forum, when clearly little thought is involved...a lot of belief,

          opinion, beliefs, anecdotal stories...

          but mind?

          Well, sometimes it beats reading HOW DO I GET STARTED IN AFFILIATE MARKETING for the 10,000th time.

          For my 10 minutes a week at WF, I give six to this subforum, sort of like the playground or recess.

          And regarding the mind part of it, I'm pretty sure a "person convinced against their will is of the same opinion still".

          GordonJ

          PS. As it relates to making money with IM, we see those people who have spent two, five even more YEARS of their life, trying this, seeking that, going down all the IM rabbit holes where they spent money to get into...

          Having a realistic understanding of one's skills, knowledge, talents AND beliefs, can help expedite the achievement of financial goals when coupled with a decent plan of action and the commitment to stay with it until it DOES manifest in reality.

          But alas, magic is easier to believe in, isn't it?
          {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11563229].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        Always have wondered why and how this became the Mind Warriors sub forum, when clearly little thought is involved...a lot of belief,
        The original idea of the Mind Forum, as I recall, was to discuss areas of marketing that are 'influenced' by our pre-conceived or imagined thoughts.


        One of the first big discussions - I think Allen participated if I recall correctly - was on 'herd mentality' - how copywriters, for example, capitalize on the need of people to 'follow' or 'be part of' something. Then 'The Secret' became the 'thing to talk about' and this section became what it is.


        edit: so I went back to the earliest posts to be found in this section (from 2008 when this forum platform was adopted) - and the titles are much the same as you see here now - not many postsng in the mind section then - but a lot more 'views'
        Signature
        Saving one dog will not change the world - but the world changes forever for that one dog
        ***
        One secret to happiness is to let every situation be
        what it is instead of what you think it should be.
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11563253].message }}
        • Profile picture of the author GordonJ
          Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

          The original idea of the Mind Forum, as I recall, was to discuss areas of marketing that are 'influenced' by our pre-conceived or imagined thoughts.


          One of the first big discussions - I think Allen participated if I recall correctly - was on 'herd mentality' - how copywriters, for example, capitalize on the need of people to 'follow' or 'be part of' something. Then 'The Secret' became the 'thing to talk about' and this section became what it is.


          edit: so I went back to the earliest posts to be found in this section (from 2008 when this forum platform was adopted) - and the titles are much the same as you see here now - not many postsng in the mind section then - but a lot more 'views'
          It seems to me he discussed Herd Mentality long before 2008, but whenever it was, it was his best work (IMO). I'm pretty sure it came before the Mass Control stuff too.

          One of these days, I'll pull out the old hard drive, where the original WF lives in my house somewhere. We too had to update software around the same time and much of our early archives didn't survive either. If you ever come across a discussion of the Herd Mentality, please let us know.

          Pretty sure Paul Myers wrote quite a bit about too.

          And as far as that goes, we see a lot of HM right here.

          GordonJ

          PS. You are appreciated Kay, I gave up on WF a couple months ago, when it became obvious through contact with a super mod, the lack of direction, organization or purpose they had for this place.
          {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11563271].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        When a Guy is in a negative state of mind/expressing "negative emotions" ― like seeing other Guys as competition or a threat etc.,― they will (for lack of a better word) "attract" similar Guys and often end up getting into a fight ... While another Guy would just completely ignore the other Person and not react to them.

        I think that sort of scenario falls under a different 'rule'...


        "You can't cure stupid"
        Signature
        Saving one dog will not change the world - but the world changes forever for that one dog
        ***
        One secret to happiness is to let every situation be
        what it is instead of what you think it should be.
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11563825].message }}
        • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
          Banned
          Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

          "You can't cure stupid"
          Lol. Well I think pretty much everyone deserves the chance the "evolve"/learn/progress/etc. in Life.
          Signature
          "Each problem has hidden in it an opportunity so powerful that it literally dwarfs the problem. The greatest success stories were created by people who recognized a problem and turned it into an opportunity."―Joseph Sugarman
          {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11563826].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
        Person to person, all I know is a firm handshake (male and females in today's world), a friendly hello or a simple tip of the hat goes a long way even when the other person isn't expecting anything else.
        Signature
        In the minute it took me to write this post.. someone died of Covid 19. RIP.
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11563827].message }}
        • Profile picture of the author GordonJ
          Originally Posted by Jeffery View Post

          Person to person, all I know is a firm handshake (male and females in today's world), a friendly hello or a simple tip of the hat goes a long way even when the other person isn't expecting anything else.
          Yesterday, while getting an EKG, I was flirting with the nurse, and when the appointment was over, I thanked the doctor, wished her a happy holiday, and then turned to the nurse and said, "And that goes for you too, Nurse Ratched"...

          And she smiled. Then said, "Exit this way and don't let the door hit you in the ass."

          I smiled too.


          Jeffery, you are right, simple little acts between people don't have to be all complicated, or manipulated or frequency involved or "attraction" of any kind. We have them dozens of times a day if we are out and about in society.

          Anything outside of bumping into someone while their nose is in their phone, is considered, these days, going a long way...but still, TINDER is doing OK, isn't it?

          I fear for the future, albeit, not losing any sleep over it.

          GordonJ
          {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11563834].message }}
          • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
            Originally Posted by GordonJ View Post

            Yesterday, while getting an EKG, I was flirting with the nurse, and when the appointment was over, I thanked the doctor, wished her a happy holiday, and then turned to the nurse and said, "And that goes for you too, Nurse Ratched"...

            And she smiled. Then said, "Exit this way and don't let the door hit you in the ass."

            I smiled too.



            Jeffery, you are right, simple little acts between people don't have to be all complicated, or manipulated or frequency involved or "attraction" of any kind. We have them dozens of times a day if we are out and about in society.

            Anything outside of bumping into someone while their nose is in their phone, is considered, these days, going a long way...but still, TINDER is doing OK, isn't it?

            I fear for the future, albeit, not losing any sleep over it.

            GordonJ

            Coincidence. This morning the same thing, almost exactly the same thing happened to me. Bit of a difference though. I waited until the end of the visit to give them a Christmas card. The ladies said thank you and Merry Christmas. I smiled and said "wait until I leave then you can read it." It said.. Keep On Poking - At My Age I'll Take All The Pokes I Can Get.


            Getting into my truck they all rushed out, blew me a kiss and rushed back in. BTW, we all go to church together.
            Signature
            In the minute it took me to write this post.. someone died of Covid 19. RIP.
            {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11563838].message }}
            • Profile picture of the author GordonJ
              Originally Posted by Jeffery View Post

              Coincidence. This morning the same thing, almost exactly the same thing happened to me. Bit of a difference though. I waited until the end of the visit to give them a Christmas card. The ladies said thank you and Merry Christmas. I smiled and said "wait until I leave then you can read it." It said.. Keep On Poking - At My Age I'll Take All The Pokes I Can Get.


              Getting into my truck they all rushed out, blew me a kiss and rushed back in. BTW, we all go to church together.
              Coincidence? NO, like attracts like, right? HA!

              GordonJ

              PS. That time of the year the docs squeeze us codgers in, getting us in before the New Year and setting up their schedules for next year. Smart people they be.
              {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11563840].message }}
              • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
                Originally Posted by GordonJ View Post

                Coincidence? NO, like attracts like, right? HA!

                GordonJ

                PS. That time of the year the docs squeeze us codgers in, getting us in before the New Year and setting up their schedules for next year. Smart people they be.

                Few years back I was new in "country" and made an appointment with my doctor. On my first visit he thought I was there for some sort of illness as most people are returning from overseas. I explained that I was fine and was sorta interviewing doctors.


                He was a little taken aback. Long story short he agreed to be my doctor under one condition.. I had to tell him "why" him. I replied.. His office was next door to KFC.


                We are actually very good friends now.
                Signature
                In the minute it took me to write this post.. someone died of Covid 19. RIP.
                {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11563844].message }}
            • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
              Originally Posted by Jeffery View Post

              Getting into my truck they all rushed out, blew me a kiss and rushed back in.
              Law of Attrucktion.
              Signature


              {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11563841].message }}
        • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
          Banned
          Originally Posted by Jeffery View Post

          Person to person, all I know is a firm handshake (male and females in today's world), a friendly hello or a simple tip of the hat goes a long way even when the other person isn't expecting anything else.
          Absolutely: I agree. : ) ... Although sometimes I wish People on The Internet would be more (I hope) "social" like they are in "real" life.
          (Lol.)
          Signature
          "Each problem has hidden in it an opportunity so powerful that it literally dwarfs the problem. The greatest success stories were created by people who recognized a problem and turned it into an opportunity."―Joseph Sugarman
          {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11563836].message }}
          • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
            Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

            Absolutely: I agree. : ) ... Although sometimes I wish People on The Internet would be more (I hope) "social" like they are in "real" life.
            (Lol.)

            Jonathan, I'm sure that if we ever met in person or at a social gathering I would shake your hand, find you interesting and still hate you (smile).
            Signature
            In the minute it took me to write this post.. someone died of Covid 19. RIP.
            {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11563851].message }}
            • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
              Banned
              Originally Posted by Jeffery View Post

              Jonathan, I'm sure that if we ever met in person or at a social gathering I would shake your hand, find you interesting and still hate you (smile).
              Lol. Thanks. (I think.)
              Signature
              "Each problem has hidden in it an opportunity so powerful that it literally dwarfs the problem. The greatest success stories were created by people who recognized a problem and turned it into an opportunity."―Joseph Sugarman
              {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11563856].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        I think that sort of scenario falls under a different 'rule'...


        "You can't cure stupid"
        Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

        Lol. Well I think pretty much everyone deserves the chance the "evolve"/learn/progress/etc. in Life.

        Jonathan, thats not she is talking about and you know it. You know it. There is a time and place for everything. Just say thank you for her wisdom and move on.
        Signature
        In the minute it took me to write this post.. someone died of Covid 19. RIP.
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11563829].message }}
        • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
          Banned
          Originally Posted by Jeffery View Post

          Jonathan, thats not she is talking about and you know it. You know it. There is a time and place for everything. Just say thank you for her wisdom and move on.
          Thanks Jeffery. Sometimes I need a little "feedback." (I actually wasn't sure what she was referring to ...)
          Anyway, like you said, I'll go and click the "Thanks" button.
          Signature
          "Each problem has hidden in it an opportunity so powerful that it literally dwarfs the problem. The greatest success stories were created by people who recognized a problem and turned it into an opportunity."―Joseph Sugarman
          {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11563831].message }}
  • "Where empirical evidence fails to persuade, illusion will surely delude."

    I read this in a fortune cookie when I was 7.

    Spoke to me so trooly I nevah ate the noodles an' kept 'em undah my bed till I was 18.

    Then when I dated a chemist guy, we got the rottin' remains preserved in a faux amethyst ornament array.

    An' evah since then, them noodles been my touchstone.

    Soul & spirit & truth floweth from Moi an' through Moi an' to Moi.

    Tellya, it is so easy it is like frickin' diarrhea.

    All I know 'bout LOA is ... anywan loads up the schwango my way gets slapped in the chops.

    If'n you srs, I'm gtg at $500 per hour, plus also I will DRESS UP.
    Signature

    Lightin' fuses is for blowin' stuff togethah.

    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11562829].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    was promoting/selling "LOA/New Thought" eBooks

    No, but a good salesman sells what people will buy. LOA did NOT begin with the movie 'the secret'. Good old Joe Vitale - perhaps best known prior to the 'movie' as a marketer who provided 'testimonials' for every new MMO or IM product launched online.




    The 'mirror' experiment is flawed - most likely deliberately flawed to prove a nonexistent point.



    People would not know it's a 'one way' mirror - only that it's a mirror and a chance to look at themselves because that's what people do - or because the movement (THEIR movement) reflected in the mirror draws their attention.


    If 'manifesting' is real - why would you waste that 'power' on a pack of smokes? Why not create a passive income or a thriving business or a lottery win?
    Signature
    Saving one dog will not change the world - but the world changes forever for that one dog
    ***
    One secret to happiness is to let every situation be
    what it is instead of what you think it should be.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11563009].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
      Banned
      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      The 'mirror' experiment is flawed - most likely deliberately flawed to prove a nonexistent point.
      How do you know? Or is that just an opinion? Again I probably didn't explain it enough.

      If 'manifesting' is real - why would you waste that 'power' on a pack of smokes? Why not create a passive income or a thriving business or a lottery win?
      Good question. Personally I don't necessarily think LOA works like my example ... However I found it somewhat interesting and have read many similar experiences. I don't think a Person can create a "passive income" or a "thriving business" just by thinking about it.

      Thanks for the post though: I found it interesting. : )
      Signature
      "Each problem has hidden in it an opportunity so powerful that it literally dwarfs the problem. The greatest success stories were created by people who recognized a problem and turned it into an opportunity."―Joseph Sugarman
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11563044].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author GordonJ
        Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

        How do you know? Or is that just an opinion? Again I probably didn't explain it enough.



        Good question. Personally I don't necessarily think LOA works like my example ... However I found it somewhat interesting and have read many similar experiences. I don't think a Person can create a "passive income" or a "thriving business" just by thinking about it.

        Thanks for the post though: I found it interesting. : )
        A person can NOT create anything by thinking about it. See, there are two parts to accomplishment, one is the mental part...but the other, the thing most overlooked by those gurus of LOA is...

        the MOVEMENT part.

        You can't get across the street, even if you see those free cancer causing cigs on the other side just waiting for you, until you cross the street.

        From the NOW, to the goal, the wish fulfilled, the thought made manifest is MOVEMENT.

        The secret to LOA, is what my Jr. High Football coach told me (I was a pulling guard)...

        THE HEAD GOES WHERE THE BODY FOLLOWS.

        So, iffin I wanted to knock that big linebacker on his ass, I had to plant my head right into his midsection with all I had. If I happened to notice Anita, a cheerleader, while I was playing, I would miss the target. There are a lot of Anitas (distractions) on the sidelines of life which cause us to miss.

        What is congruent and accurate about LOA, manifestation is; when the mind, the idea, the thought, the desire is in step with the movement; action, activity and it may seem as if holding on to the thought brought about the result, but in every single instance of result by design is the control of the movement.

        Most "manifestations", cigs or dollars on the ground are a result of apophenia. But humans want and often need an explanation for such coincidences, so....LOA.

        Control your movement, and that includes the thought, because the mind and body can't be separated, and it is the activity which creates the result.

        GordonJ
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11563060].message }}
        • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
          Banned
          Originally Posted by GordonJ View Post

          See, there are two parts to accomplishment, one is the mental part...but the other, the thing most overlooked by those gurus of LOA is...

          the MOVEMENT part.
          Absolutely: I agree. Thanks Gordan.
          : )

          A Person's thinking/feeling/etc, is important for sure. Everyone from Napoleon Hill ("Think And Grow Rich") to Tony Robbins ("Awaken The Giant Within"') were clear about that. However similar to what you said, many times they miss out the equally important aspect ... And that's Taking Action/Movement.

          As it applies to being a successful Entrepreneur ― a Person's thoughts are important however it's equally important to take action. They go hand-in-hand (IMO).

          2C
          Signature
          "Each problem has hidden in it an opportunity so powerful that it literally dwarfs the problem. The greatest success stories were created by people who recognized a problem and turned it into an opportunity."―Joseph Sugarman
          {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11563216].message }}
          • Profile picture of the author GordonJ
            Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

            Absolutely: I agree. Thanks Gordan.
            : )

            A Person's thinking/feeling/etc, is important for sure. Everyone from Napoleon Hill ("Think And Grow Rich") to Tony Robbins ("Awaken The Giant Within"') were clear about that. However similarly to what you said, many times they miss out the equally important aspect ... And that's Taking Action/Movement.

            As it applies to being a successful Entrepreneur ― a Person's thoughts are important however it's equally important to take action. They go hand-in-hand (IMO).

            2C
            How are their thoughts important?

            Many successful Entrepreneurs were simply in the right place at the right time. Others had no belief in their ability, they stumbled into it.

            Thoughts are only "important" as it relates to the action (movement) they produce. And all too often, that movement comes about from an accident, or a failure but produces a different result than the one they were looking for.

            Too many so called successes were just lucky. And they can NOT not go hand in hand, which is the point, a mind is not separate from a body. They have to go hand in hand, don't they?

            LOA is a belief system, and if that is your belief, then you follow the tenets or rules of that belief system, eh??

            GordonJ
            {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11563230].message }}
            • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
              Banned
              Originally Posted by GordonJ View Post

              How are their thoughts important?
              Pretty much everything begins with a thought, Even a Person's actions. As I have learned:
              "Thoughts lead to emotions, and emotions lead to actions."

              Many successful Entrepreneurs were simply in the right place at the right time. Others had no belief in their ability, they stumbled into it.
              True. At the same time, many of them did know exactly what they were doing -- relatively speaking. It's a common thought that many Entrepreneurs just got lucky -- and luck definitely plays a part -- usually though they were somewhat creative and innovative ... Among other things.

              LOA is a belief system, and if that is your belief, then you follow the tenets or rules of that belief system, eh??
              Out of curiosity ... How would you "define" LOA?
              Signature
              "Each problem has hidden in it an opportunity so powerful that it literally dwarfs the problem. The greatest success stories were created by people who recognized a problem and turned it into an opportunity."―Joseph Sugarman
              {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11563234].message }}
              • Profile picture of the author GordonJ
                Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

                Pretty much everything begins with a thought, Even a Person's actions. As I have learned: "Thoughts lead to emotions, and emotions lead to actions."



                True. At the same time, many of them did know exactly what they were doing -- relatively speaking. It's a common thought that many Entrepreneurs just got lucky -- and luck definitely plays a part -- usually though there were somewhat creative and innovative. Among other things.



                Out of curiosity ... How would you "define" LOA?
                When I write about LOA, I use the Law of Attraction definition put forth by Rhonda Byrne in THE SECRET. She drew upon the New Age Movement, and they claimed: Emotionalized thought pictures continuously visualized will be made manifest for the world to see.
                The claim is if you visualize a future event as a present reality, and add emotion (belief) that God will respond, although they prefer to use Universe, a sub set of God, perhaps?

                You like to split hairs over minutiae, look, what ever you believe you believe.

                If you believe you can attract a free pack of smokes into your existence, so be it.

                The reason religion had/has so much conflict with New Age, is, most religions believe in a God who should be obeyed, the idea you can tell God what you want and he will give it to you is considered an affront to mainstream religion until the God wants you to be rich crowd came on the scene.

                We have mostly control over our activities, maybe as much as 90% or more for most people. In a free society, no one holds a gun to anyone's head and says you have to do this (work). Yet when we read about the disgruntled employee, and here at WF, probably the VAST majority, and how they want to escape the rat race, they forget the small detail which is, THEY put themselves into the race by saying (in effect if not fact): pick me, pick me not the other guy.

                They MANIFESTED their misery, their goal came true.

                Now they want to use magic to extricate themselves from their own mess.

                As I define LOA, I also say, it is magical thinking and Pablum for the masses who need it and has nothing to do with achievement, albeit, as thinking makes it so.

                The reason so many are attracted to magic is, they never learned how life works, they accepted an adult's version when they were young and never grew out of that.

                GordonJ
                {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11563239].message }}
                • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                  Originally Posted by GordonJ View Post

                  When I write about LOA, I use the Law of Attraction definition put forth by Rhonda Byrne in THE SECRET. She drew upon the New Age Movement, and they claimed: Emotionalized thought pictures continuously visualized will be made manifest for the world to see.
                  The claim is if you visualize a future event as a present reality, and add emotion (belief) that God will respond, although they prefer to use Universe, a sub set of God, perhaps?
                  When I first started reading about LOA, I kept thinking that I was somehow misunderstanding what was being said. So I bought the book, and read it. Yup. Visualize what you want, and there it is.

                  I think the reason so many people are attracted to this way of thinking is.....it saves them from thinking "So, how does this work?" ..." What do I have to do to get this result?". Magic is so much more fun than reality. So much less effort. It requires so much less knowledge about how the world works.


                  Originally Posted by GordonJ View Post

                  The reason religion had/has so much conflict with New Age, is, most religions believe in a God who should be obeyed, the idea you can tell God what you want and he will give it to you is considered an affront to mainstream religion until the God wants you to be rich crowd came on the scene.
                  I've watched lots of those shows, to see how the speaker crafts their talk, to influence their audience. The reason (I think) that these "God wants you to be rich" guys are taking that approach is that it also appeals to greed. And all of us have a little greed in us. There is no reason not to exploit it. After all, like LOA...it requires so little work. And any monetary gain (like finally paying off your car) is attributed to divine intervention.




                  Originally Posted by GordonJ View Post

                  As I define LOA, I also say, it is magical thinking and Pablum for the masses who need it and has nothing to do with achievement, albeit, as thinking makes it so.
                  Just read the arguments used to support it. It's always an analogy. It's never cause and effect. Never critical thinking. Reality is the enemy here.




                  Originally Posted by GordonJ View Post

                  The reason so many are attracted to magic is, they never learned how life works, they accepted an adult's version when they were young and never grew out of that.

                  GordonJ
                  That is true. And I can make a promise here. Once someone knows how the magic is done, they can never go back to believing in it. Never.
                  Signature
                  One Call Closing book https://www.amazon.com/One-Call-Clos...=1527788418&sr

                  What if they're not stars? What if they are holes poked in the top of a container so we can breath?
                  {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11563364].message }}
                • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
                  Banned
                  Originally Posted by GordonJ View Post

                  When I write about LOA, I use the Law of Attraction definition put forth by Rhonda Byrne in THE SECRET. She drew upon the New Age Movement, and they claimed: Emotionalized thought pictures continuously visualized will be made manifest for the world to see.
                  Lol. I understand what you mean. Again, I don't think LOA/Manifesting works like that ― in fact many times that's kind of absurd. However it's important not to throw the baby out with the bathwater, as they say.

                  As far as I know ... Visualization can be a great method for success. That's been documented in many cases and books (etc.) and is something that many Entrepreneurs kind of do naturally without thinking about it.

                  The claim is if you visualize a future event as a present reality, and add emotion (belief) that God will respond, although they prefer to use Universe, a sub set of God, perhaps?
                  I'm not going to express my opinions, views, and values about God/Christianity/etc. ... Just that I think God wants many People to succeed more then they even do. I'll leave it there.

                  You like to split hairs over minutiae, look, what ever you believe you believe.
                  (Lol.) OK ... I just think I have a different way of looking at things as you do.

                  If you believe you can attract a free pack of smokes into your existence, so be it.
                  No ― like I said ― it's just something I found interesting and (maybe) consider in the future.

                  The reason religion had/has so much conflict with New Age, is, most religions believe in a God who should be obeyed, the idea you can tell God what you want and he will give it to you is considered an affront to mainstream religion until the God wants you to be rich crowd came on the scene.
                  Many times that's called "Faith." Again I think "God" wants the best for People. (2C)

                  [...]

                  As I define LOA, I also say, it is magical thinking and Pablum for the masses who need it and has nothing to do with achievement, albeit, as thinking makes it so.
                  How many People has used it the "attract/manifest" positive results and experiences in their Lives? Is it all just "magical thinking" (etc.) ... Or is there something helpful happening?

                  The reason so many are attracted to magic is, they never learned how life works, they accepted an adult's version when they were young and never grew out of that.
                  Well I don't know anything about magic (etc.) I'm not going to say I know "everything" about a certain concept without researching it first. Even then there's probably a lot more that I don't understand.
                  Signature
                  "Each problem has hidden in it an opportunity so powerful that it literally dwarfs the problem. The greatest success stories were created by people who recognized a problem and turned it into an opportunity."―Joseph Sugarman
                  {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11563597].message }}
                  • Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post


                    How many People has used it the "attract/manifest" positive results and experiences in their Lives? Is it all just "magical thinking" (etc.) ... Or is there something helpful happening?

                    .
                    The problem with the LOA is that apparently you can't manifest anything. Like, you can't manifest money, only opportunities to make some. You can't manifest physical things to appear because that would screw up reality itself, for the rest of us. You can't manifest a partner created like EVE, but you can manifest a chance meeting with the person of your dreams.

                    That's about it, right?

                    Here's the thing: If I believe in the LOA, and I want to, let's say... meet the girl of my dreams. Using the LOA principles I will go through the mental visualization of meeting an amazing girl. Yada yad yada.

                    In short: I conjure up powerful, positive emotions and a strong belief that I meet this person.

                    I'm now all positive and shit. When I go out into the world, I'm thinking and feeling differently. I see the world as a much more brighter place than usual, because well, I purposely set my brain up for this earlier. I will likely interact with more people than I normally would. I might notice the birds singing for the first time.

                    Heck, I might just take a stroll down to the park.

                    While down in the park, which I never go to, I see a lot of new people. I chat to some. I give off good, positive vibrations. The interactions are good.

                    Over on the bench I see a beautiful girl. I wouldn't normally just pop over for a chat, but today I feel alright and the world is alright with me.

                    I go over. We hit it off. I ask for her number. We get married at some stage later on.

                    To the believers of this stuff, the LOA did work. Without it I wouldn't have met my dream girl. If I hadn't taken the time to visualize what I wanted, and got myself all fired up for the day, I most likely wouldn't have ended up in the park. Even if I did, I likely wouldn't have talked to the girl on the bench.

                    You can see why there would be so many stories of people manifesting amazing things. If I believed in the LOA, then I too would have a magical story to tell.

                    But I don't.

                    It's just a nice story we tell friends at our anniversary party.
                    Signature
                    Strong Men and Women put themselves in harms way
                    for the freedoms weak people give away for safety
                    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11563650].message }}
                    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                      Originally Posted by Declan O Flaherty View Post


                      You can see why there would be so many stories of people manifesting amazing things. If I believed in the LOA, then I too would have a magical story to tell.

                      But I don't.

                      It's just a nice story we tell friends at our anniversary party.
                      And some people will read your post and see it as a testimonial for LOA, and others will see it as an explanation for why some people believe it works, when it's a matter of belied, not reality.

                      Humans.
                      Signature
                      One Call Closing book https://www.amazon.com/One-Call-Clos...=1527788418&sr

                      What if they're not stars? What if they are holes poked in the top of a container so we can breath?
                      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11563793].message }}
                    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
                      Banned
                      Thanks Declan: I appreciate the example/explanation.

                      Similarly, when a Person is in a "positive" state of mind/expressing positive emotions (like happiness, joy, gratitude, contentment, etc.) ...
                      They socially/emotionally "attract" People in a similar state of mind -- and "filter" out/ignore People that are in a different place.

                      As John Templeton Said: "Good attracts good." : )
                      Signature
                      "Each problem has hidden in it an opportunity so powerful that it literally dwarfs the problem. The greatest success stories were created by people who recognized a problem and turned it into an opportunity."―Joseph Sugarman
                      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11563801].message }}
                      • Profile picture of the author GordonJ
                        Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

                        Thanks Declan: I appreciate the example/explanation.

                        Similarly, when a Person is in a "positive" state of mind/expressing positive emotions (like happiness, joy, gratitude, contentment, etc.) ... They socially/emotionally "attract" People in a similar state of mind -- and "filter" out/ignore People that are in a different place.

                        As John Templeton Said: "Good attracts good." : )
                        Who, in their right, healthy mind is attracted to negative, destructive, emotionally unstable people?

                        Does like attract like? Is that why sociopaths and serial killers have so many girlfriends and would be brides?

                        And isn't "good" subjective too? At last call, in a bar with beer goggles on, it might be whatever and whomever is left, attracts whoever is left. eh?

                        GordonJ
                        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11563816].message }}
                        • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
                          Banned
                          Originally Posted by GordonJ View Post

                          Who, in their right, healthy mind is attracted to negative, destructive, emotionally unstable people?
                          It's not quite on that "level" ...
                          However I'll give you an example:

                          When a Guy is in a negative state of mind/expressing "negative emotions" ― like seeing other Guys as competition or a threat etc.,― they will (for lack of a better word) "attract" similar Guys and often end up getting into a fight ... While another Guy would just completely ignore the other Person and not react to them.

                          (I'm not an expert on this subject ... So I hope that makes sense. : ) And, unfortunately, "negative People" do somewhat "attract" each other.

                          "Misery loves company", as they say.
                          Signature
                          "Each problem has hidden in it an opportunity so powerful that it literally dwarfs the problem. The greatest success stories were created by people who recognized a problem and turned it into an opportunity."―Joseph Sugarman
                          {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11563823].message }}
                        • Profile picture of the author Odahh
                          Originally Posted by GordonJ View Post

                          Who, in their right, healthy mind is attracted to negative, destructive, emotionally unstable people?

                          Does like attract like? Is that why sociopaths and serial killers have so many girlfriends and would be brides?

                          And isn't "good" subjective too? At last call, in a bar with beer goggles on, it might be whatever and whomever is left, attracts whoever is left. eh?

                          GordonJ
                          People attracted to those people over and over tend not to be emotionally stable in their right minds etc themselves. Sure everyone will run into a few but unless you are related or get married before the true colors are seen .

                          People learn to get away from those types quick .

                          Do you attract a thief to break into you house or at least enter and steal . If you leave the box for a next flat screen TV or expensive item on the curve ,leave your windows and doors open and go out for a few hours .

                          People tend to do that very thing with their emotional state .

                          I believe in a basic version of the law of attraction . Where the desired manifestation does not matter in the least . You are after a certain state or set of emotions you hope to get from that manifestation .

                          How do you what to feel from this and what other things can you do to get the same feeling .
                          I watched the secret many times after it first came out I tried to watch it a few months ago and I think I only got to the first time they said thoughts become things .

                          If the thoughts I had became thing I'd make Ron Jeramy look celabate instead my realty is slightly better than the 40 year old virgin
                          {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11564393].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Master Blake
    Believing in fairy tales, angels, gnomes and elfs tickles my fancy.
    Actually there is no law of attraction but a synergy with other worlds.

    The dynamics involved are beyond any scope of logic.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11563199].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author DABK
    By that logic, all teenage boys vibrating 'horny' would be getting laid. And we both know that's not the case. And do not tell me they do not vibrate ''horny' well.





    Originally Posted by Tshep0325 View Post

    The Universe responds to your frequency.. It doesn't recognise your personal desires, wants or needs. It only understands the frequency in which you are vibrating at. For example; if you are vibrating in the frequency of fear, guilt or shame you are going to attract things of a similar vibration.

    If you are vibrating love, joy and abundance, you are going to attract things that support that frequency. It's kinda like tuning into a radio station. You have to be tunng into the music you want to listen to just like you have to be tuned into the energy you want to manifest into your life. Change your mindset, it will change your life.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11563598].message }}
  • tbh if LOA were true, my bloodstream woulda been SUCCESSED OUT by alcohol since I was 12yo, Benedict Cumberbatch would be hellacntd steada jus' eloquent TO THE DETRIMENT OF HIS CAREER (PLUS ALL HOOMANITY), an' evrywan's electric toothbrush would DIE so dolphins could STRESS THE FRICK OUT LESS.

    Like King Arthur said, "Every soul commanded to wrest ultimate power from God-given gift gotta be crappin' their pants or so way stoopid evrywan in trouble if'n they fall for that schwango. Naturally, I followed the instructions from on high, and humanity has been paying the price for misplaced optimism ever since. Why in hell did I never quit my delusions of grandeur and simply hook up with a gal with great tits who could cook decent? And why was I born too many centuries before ARMOR got ditched in favor of SPARKLY THONGS KINDA MAX OUT MY HONEY BUTT CRACK?"

    Likely we gonna cover GRATITOOD in anothah thread ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...

    CALLIN' ALL SLOTH FANS!!!
    ...
    ...
    ...
    AS IN ... NAHT RIGHT NOW!
    ...
    ...
    ...

    HOW SRSLY BADLY

    YOU WANNA
    PUT HARDCORE STUFF
    ON PERMANENT HOLD?
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...


    ...
    ...
    COULD BE
    THE PRINCESS BALESTRA
    EVERGREEN ELLIPSES OF INFINITE POSSIBILITY PLAN
    IS
    PRECISELY
    THE SUREFIRE SUCCESS STRATEGY

    GOTTA SQUIRT DEEPO

    INTO YOUR LOSER ASS
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    bcs, yanno ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    kinda hey ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    anythin' is probable if'n you stoopid af
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    which it kinda is already, you dope
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    unless ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    ...
    the fyooture turns out to be so impossibly cruel you end up readin' this & hatin' yourself for bein' HAULED INTO NOPLACE OBLIVION for ZERO REASON WHATSOEVAH.


    1 Period = Effective Punctuation Tool Kudos
    2 Periods = likley a typo
    3 periods = ETERNAL OBLIVION


    "You Invited yourself

    to this Hellhole.
    So OWN IT."
    Signature

    Lightin' fuses is for blowin' stuff togethah.

    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11563605].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Reddevil007
    Everything is energy so yes it all comes to your mindset as we know your thought process is where the energy follows right?
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11563730].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author GordonJ
      Originally Posted by Reddevil007 View Post

      Everything is energy so yes it all comes to your mindset as we know your thought process is where the energy follows right?
      Thanks to a manager of a local OLSON'S electronic store, I was able to build a working model of a Royal Rife, FREQUENCY machine. One of these days, I'll tell the story about OLSON ELECTRONICS of Akron, OH.

      I later worked at that store at Chapel Hill Mall.

      Since we have a couple of you who are all "energy" and frequency guys, then I assume you know all about Royal Rife and getting on the right frequency of success and healing, eh?

      The brain is electrical, no doubt, it is chemical. Those energies can be measured. And we know how a brain functions, and what happens when it is damaged or not working as "normal". But it is a leap to equate the chemical-electrical activity of the brain into a mindset or thought process. If that were all thinking was, then we would have advanced Rife machines (and some conspiracy types believe we do and they are being used on us)...then controlling the masses would be a much easier thing to do, wouldn't it?

      People do things. People achieve things. What their mindset really is goes for the most part unknown, unless they have something to gain by telling (or selling) us about it.

      GordonJ
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11563821].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author Reddevil007
        Originally Posted by GordonJ View Post

        Thanks to a manager of a local OLSON'S electronic store, I was able to build a working model of a Royal Rife, FREQUENCY machine. One of these days, I'll tell the story about OLSON ELECTRONICS of Akron, OH.

        I later worked at that store at Chapel Hill Mall.

        Since we have a couple of you who are all "energy" and frequency guys, then I assume you know all about Royal Rife and getting on the right frequency of success and healing, eh?

        The brain is electrical, no doubt, it is chemical. Those energies can be measured. And we know how a brain functions, and what happens when it is damaged or not working as "normal". But it is a leap to equate the chemical-electrical activity of the brain into a mindset or thought process. If that were all thinking was, then we would have advanced Rife machines (and some conspiracy types believe we do and they are being used on us)...then controlling the masses would be a much easier thing to do, wouldn't it?

        People do things. People achieve things. What their mindset really is goes for the most part unknown, unless they have something to gain by telling (or selling) us about it.

        GordonJ

        Something to be proud about right?
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11563929].message }}
        • Profile picture of the author GordonJ
          Originally Posted by Reddevil007 View Post

          Something to be proud about right?
          You're Mr. Energy. And the other guy is Mr. Frequency. You think everything is energy (and could be right)...but how does that help anyone get into a mindset which helps them achieve their goals? Surely, YOU know, right?

          Long ago, we sat under pyramids and did bio-feedback...and got our Astrology charts done and stared at posters until we could see the hidden images. Just facts. Not much to be proud about, but does provide me with a base of experience and knowledge.

          Do you have anything to contribute, other than your sarcasm? How does the transmutation of energy (bio-chemical activity which makes up our thoughts) help someone to do better or to achieve their goals??

          I'm all ears. I am proud of that, being able to listen to different opinions and concede when I am mistaken.

          GordonJ
          {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11564382].message }}
          • Profile picture of the author Reddevil007
            Originally Posted by GordonJ View Post

            You're Mr. Energy. And the other guy is Mr. Frequency. You think everything is energy (and could be right)...but how does that help anyone get into a mindset which helps them achieve their goals? Surely, YOU know, right?

            Long ago, we sat under pyramids and did bio-feedback...and got our Astrology charts done and stared at posters until we could see the hidden images. Just facts. Not much to be proud about, but does provide me with a base of experience and knowledge.

            Do you have anything to contribute, other than your sarcasm? How does the transmutation of energy (bio-chemical activity which makes up our thoughts) help someone to do better or to achieve their goals??

            I'm all ears. I am proud of that, being able to listen to different opinions and concede when I am mistaken.

            GordonJ

            Look everything is energy atleast for me because I have experienced it, now I cannot comment about you.

            I have been following all your posts and I do admire your suggestions but I beg to differ here because it's something I have experienced myself using different meditation techniques.

            There is something out there that is controlling us, some people call it god while some call it the universe.
            {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11564472].message }}
          • Profile picture of the author Jeffery

            Signature
            In the minute it took me to write this post.. someone died of Covid 19. RIP.
            {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11566279].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Antar Bhowmik
    Personally I think there's a lot of truth to the "Law Of Attraction" premise: As it's been said: "What a Person thinks about, they bring about." It could have been completely dismissed -- and that would have been it -- with the arrival of "The Secret" movie back in 2006.

    However People are still talking about it, discussing it, and using it to be more successful in their lives.

    Unfortunately I don't think LOA works quite like it was portrayed/illustrated in the movie "The Secret." For example a Person sitting in their arm chair visualizing driving a Ferrari won't instantly "manifest" that into their Lives. In fact some of the beliefs could actually be "dangerous."

    For instance "The Secret" states that a Person "attracts/creates" everything in their Lives. Something that many cults do is mix a lot of truth with a lot of lies -- so it's difficult to tell the difference between the two. And some of the quotations in the Movie/Book are actually taken out of context.

    I could be wrong however I think some of it was meant to be "controversial". Why? So that it would get People talking/discussing it.

    "There's no such thing as bad publicity" as they say. And every time a Person argues against it, many People respond for it -- creating more publicity.

    Actually "The Law Of Attraction" concept began in the early 19th Century with The New Thought Movement: Everything from "The Science of Getting Rich" (Wallace Wattles) to "Think And Grow Rich" (Napoleon Hill). An important part of the "creation/manifesting" process is taking action. As Wallace Wattles said: "By thought, the thing you want is brought to you ... By action you receive it." Napoleon Hill was also clear about "Organized Planning."

    Essentially I think a Person's thoughts creates their reality. And "positive thinking" can do a World of good in the success process. I don't know 100% how it works, just that we really do "attract" what we think about.

    I agree with that
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11564509].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    Blah
    I believe the law of attraction exists . But I am a creator not and attractor .

    And the path I have been on has kicked my butt pretty hard in order to get me to own the roll of being a creator .

    Whatever outside force there is it has definitely made it is not going to pop out an endless chain of blessing ..but with every disaster . It has become clear while the debri is still scattering or thing are blowing apart why and what I am supposed to learn to create a better life from what is going on.

    Even if going through what ever it is suck pretty bad .apperently the universe is willing to bring large amounts of crap until you break down and create better .
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11564769].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Believe In You
    You need to kill your bloated ego and use deep trance programming if change is what you're after.

    Killing the ego is denial of your formerly pathetic self. Then everything changes like your vibrations,
    magnetism and perception. Then comes whatever you wanna call it.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11566038].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author DABK
      What if your self was not pathetic but awesome?

      Originally Posted by Believe In You View Post

      You need to kill your bloated ego and use deep trance programming if change is what you're after.

      Killing the ego is denial of your formerly pathetic self. Then everything changes like your vibrations,
      magnetism and perception. Then comes whatever you wanna call it.
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11566058].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author Believe In You
        Originally Posted by DABK View Post

        What if your self was not pathetic but awesome?
        I asked my Master and he said:

        If you're awesome...then awesome. You are always open to new ideas and experiences.
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11566073].message }}
        • Profile picture of the author DABK
          Blah, blah, blah.

          Are you going to say something by the time you are done speaking?


          Originally Posted by Believe In You View Post

          I asked my Master and he said:

          If you're awesome...then awesome. You are always open to new ideas and experiences.
          {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11566088].message }}
          • Profile picture of the author Odahh
            Originally Posted by DABK View Post

            Blah, blah, blah.

            Are you going to say something by the time you are done speaking?
            Believe is writing in mystic it doesn't need to mean anything just look wise and mystical.

            I on the other hand hopelessly blabber on and think maybe someone might kinda understand what I am attempting to write.
            {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11566089].message }}
            • Profile picture of the author DABK
              I am slow but even I sometimes understand you. I even understand Yoda sometimes. Believe ? Well, he/she/it/they seems to just want to kill pixle trees for nothin'.

              Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

              Believe is writing in mystic it doesn't need to mean anything just look wise and mystical.

              I on the other hand hopelessly blabber on and think maybe someone might kinda understand what I am attempting to write.
              {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11566179].message }}
              • Profile picture of the author Odahh
                Originally Posted by DABK View Post

                I am slow but even I sometimes understand you. I even understand Yoda sometimes. Believe ? Well, he/she/it/they seems to just want to kill pixle trees for nothin'.
                I positive side of me has seen the way the cosmic master/self hypnosis people talk as some kind of marketing ploy .

                The dark part of my view looks at it as cultish bahavior or just an ago trip by a few people to structure the way they say things on order to sound mystical and enlightened.

                As I close in on my own enlightenment all that seems pointless. In fact most of the typical human drama game seems pointless .

                Your reality is based on your perception of how thing happen and the stories you tell yourself about the events based on the fraction of the information you have about the event going on.

                So intend to find a pack of cigarettes find a pack of c I Garret's ..of course law of attraction.

                Lots of things that happen just happen on this planet no need to personize or claim you attracted them .

                Blah I can't explain what I am about to try to explain yet so. Time for some strategic procrastination
                {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11566192].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author Odahh
      Originally Posted by Believe In You View Post

      You need to kill your bloated ego and use deep trance programming if change is what you're after.

      Killing the ego is denial of your formerly pathetic self. Then everything changes like your vibrations,
      magnetism and perception. Then comes whatever you wanna call it.
      Claiming one has killed their ego is an extremely egotistical statement

      The typical human ego is built to usually attempt to project to others a version of you that you hope gets them to think a certain way about you

      So claiming to others to not have an ego or to have killed you ego is an ego based statement
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11566079].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
      Originally Posted by Believe In You View Post

      You need to kill your bloated ego and use deep trance programming if change is what you're after.

      Killing the ego is denial of your formerly pathetic self. Then everything changes like your vibrations,
      magnetism and perception. Then comes whatever you wanna call it.
      Read This Slowly..
      I call it.. BS
      Signature
      In the minute it took me to write this post.. someone died of Covid 19. RIP.
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11566231].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Believe In You
    Sorry to rock you off the cradle guys but what I said is at least part truth.

    You have to read between the lines. Believe in you and of course...

    when the student is ready the _________ will come.

    You know the drill.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11566206].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author DABK
      So, when do you think you are going to be ready do that the __________
      can come?

      Originally Posted by Believe In You View Post

      Sorry to rock you off the cradle guys but what I said is at least part truth.

      You have to read between the lines. Believe in you and of course...

      when the student is ready the _________ will come.

      You know the drill.
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11566207].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by Believe In You View Post

      Sorry to rock you off the cradle guys but what I said is at least part truth.
      Stunning certainty and depth of awareness.


      Originally Posted by Believe In You View Post

      You have to read between the lines. Believe in you and of course...

      I agree. Why state plainly what you can conceal in nonsensical woo woo?

      Watch this!

      The shedding of the outer self liberates the core self, or Inner Self (as the Mystics call it).
      The Ego poisons the true self, and must be exorcised...before true enlightenment can take place.

      See? I can do it too.
      Signature
      One Call Closing book https://www.amazon.com/One-Call-Clos...=1527788418&sr

      What if they're not stars? What if they are holes poked in the top of a container so we can breath?
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11566226].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author Odahh
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        The shedding of the outer self liberates the core self, or Inner Self (as the Mystics call it).
        The Ego poisons the true self, and must be exorcised...before true enlightenment can take place.

        See? I can do it too.
        That probably the best way I have seen that said . I completely disagree with it but that's mainly why the idea needs to be presented in mystic form .

        Humans just need something else to point at .to completely abdicate their responsibility for the reality they create.

        Once you stop putting outside there is a long list of internal villins to point at,genetics,bad habits ,the ego ,addictions .

        Blah blah blah blah blaaah blah.

        All to hide a core sence of unworthyness to learn how to create a much better reality .
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11566247].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author Believe In You
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        Stunning certainty and depth of awareness.





        I agree. Why state plainly what you can conceal in nonsensical woo woo?

        Watch this!

        The shedding of the outer self liberates the core self, or Inner Self (as the Mystics call it).
        The Ego poisons the true self, and must be exorcised...before true enlightenment can take place.

        See? I can do it too.
        Well done. They say that even a
        monkey can do this so kudos to you Claude.
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11566248].message }}
        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          Originally Posted by Believe In You View Post

          Well done. They say that even a
          monkey can do this so kudos to you Claude.
          Thank you. it's about time someone recognized my genius....and not just a genius...but a very stable genius.

          Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

          That probably the best way I have seen that said . I completely disagree with it but that's mainly why the idea needs to be presented in mystic form .
          How can you disagree with it? I don't even know what it means.
          Signature
          One Call Closing book https://www.amazon.com/One-Call-Clos...=1527788418&sr

          What if they're not stars? What if they are holes poked in the top of a container so we can breath?
          {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11566269].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    It is completely meaningless like many statments of path to true enlightenment .

    You have obviously read enough mystical garbage to pop out a convincibv piece of mystical garbage .

    Get that printed in books or printed on enough tee-shirts and people might thing it's a true statement of enlightenment and spend centuries pondering the meaning .

    I bet many of these mystical teaching passed down through the ages where just the result of people tired of the same questions over and over again .and basically here is something to think about no go away and come back when you find the meaning.

    The last few years has highlight that human being generally do not construct their reality bas on facts .the pick the facts that will support their version of reality . Or just make them up .and it is happening all over the world not just one person.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11566274].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by Odahh View Post


      I bet many of these mystical teaching passed down through the ages where just the result of people tired of the same questions over and over again .and basically here is something to think about no go away and come back when you find the meaning.
      I have a theory about that.

      I think most of the ancient sages were either brilliant, or schizophrenic. Mental illness wasn't known centuries ago. It was thought that these people who rambled to themselves were talking to spirits, and had insights we couldn't grasp. Some of their ramblings became texts...and then the gospel.

      The brilliant sages?

      I come from a martial arts background (decades ago). And most of our ancient texts are mysterious in nature, and are difficult to comprehend. But why is that so?

      Because at the time, nearly everyone was illiterate. There was no real science. Superstition and rituals were the closest thing we had. So we did the best we could with the understanding of the world at the time...And....more importantly....these texts were translated by people who were not familiar with the subject matter. So the meaning was skewed or lost in translation.

      So what we read now, is a miss-translation of something said centuries ago. These texts were not meant to be interpreted. They were solid books of advice. But the meanings of words change over time, and translations into different languages, loses some meaning.

      So now we read what Rasputin said...and we think he is a mystic with the power of foresight. But he could have just been schizophrenic....or his meaning was skewed over the years.

      And...ancient texts are rewritten to fit the times...or to fit a political or religious agenda.

      So now we have ancient texts that seem like deep secrets, because they aren't easily understood. But they are hard to understand, because now...they make no sense.
      Signature
      One Call Closing book https://www.amazon.com/One-Call-Clos...=1527788418&sr

      What if they're not stars? What if they are holes poked in the top of a container so we can breath?
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11566430].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author tryinhere
    Very Sad to see this as the warrior forums number on attention getter for the week. It's like reading a trashy magazine only worse.
    Signature
    | > Choosing to go off the grid for a while to focus on family, work and life in general. Have a great 2020 < |
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11566283].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author codyhay
    True words.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11566318].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    Davinchi I believe to protect many of his ideas from being stolent wrote them in code then in reverse . So you needed to read the code in a mirror to then decypher the code . And it is possible many of his drawings where not really far ahead of their time . But thing that could not really be made and if someone stole the idea .they would waste a lot of time with it .

    If you want monks to stay in your order even after they learn to read and write .the best way is to not make it easy to learn all the secrets of the order with a few scrolls . So you write many scrolls and have a bunch of flowery filler .while the monks learn over time what the secrets really are .

    And most where much easier to remember and recite .

    Writing them down was more a function of developing discipline .

    So I will go with a lot of the meaningless stuff was meant to be meaningless to protect core ideas from theft . Or simply people who actually achieve enlightenment would rather live their enlightened liveds than spend all day answering the same questions .

    So the here is something to think about now go away an ponder this idea for many years .

    It was also rwalativly common for those who taught enlightenment to be executed once they started drawing a big enough following .and the teaching not to be written down for many years .

    Hi t we can't go into specific religions.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11566449].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author socialentry
    Banned
    I read this fast.



    We should enforce the religion rule and make this a secular forum.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11566776].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
    Agreed T.

    Live through your heart, be generous, face your fears, and even though the journey feels scary at times, it gets so much easier to succeed. Like going downhill.

    Live through your mind, be skeptical and cynical like a prideful badge of honor, and you swim upstream wearing a weighted vest. Makes no sense to me. Well, it made sense when I was a skeptic hehehe...not now though.

    RB
    Signature
    Ryan Biddulph helps you to be a successful blogger with his courses, manuals and blog at Blogging From Paradise
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11566815].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author socialentry
      Banned
      Originally Posted by ryanbiddulph View Post

      Live through your mind, be skeptical and cynical like a prideful badge of honor, and you swim upstream wearing a weighted vest. Makes no sense to me. Well, it made sense when I was a skeptic hehehe...not now though.

      RB

      But what if you're landing at Omaha beach and the vest is bulletproof.
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11566817].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author Odahh
        Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

        But what if you're landing at Omaha beach and the vest is bulletproof.
        Today that isn't so bad but on d day in 1944 it was rough.

        It was much worse to be a Russian soldier having to run at enemy machine gun or attempt to retreat and be cut down by Russian machine guns .

        If you where Russian or in the Soviet Union while Stalin was alive. anyone who thinks communism is a good thing or would be is a fool or secretly want anyone doing better thsn them dead
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11566872].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Master Blake
    There was this chap that questioned everything and got nothing.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11567355].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author socialentry
      Banned
      Originally Posted by Master Blake View Post

      There was this chap that questioned everything and got nothing.

      But what about Kemal Ataturk.
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11567359].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author DABK
        He was a lefty, so the point is moot.


        Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

        But what about Kemal Ataturk.
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11567377].message }}
        • Profile picture of the author socialentry
          Banned
          Originally Posted by DABK View Post

          He was a lefty, so the point is moot.

          Depends on your definiton of "lefty", but I suppose if you consider him as such, it must be quite generous.


          In any case, maybe the mystics in this section could use LOA to revive him --- we could then offer him a mod position ,he'd actually enforce the religion rule and may even make new ones against unsubstantiated conspiracy theories.
          {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11567393].message }}
          • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
            Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

            unsubstantiated conspiracy theories.
            Just to remind everyone..
            All conspiracy theories are unsubstantiated. If they are substantiated, they are just news.
            Signature
            One Call Closing book https://www.amazon.com/One-Call-Clos...=1527788418&sr

            What if they're not stars? What if they are holes poked in the top of a container so we can breath?
            {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11567479].message }}
          • Profile picture of the author DABK
            Well, he got 2 or 3 things right. And 2 or 3 wrong. So, whatcha gonna do?

            Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

            Depends on your definiton of "lefty", but I suppose if you consider him as such, it must be quite generous.


            In any case, maybe the mystics in this section could use LOA to revive him --- we could then offer him a mod position ,he'd actually enforce the religion rule and may even make new ones against unsubstantiated conspiracy theories.
            {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11567480].message }}
            • Profile picture of the author socialentry
              Banned
              Originally Posted by DABK View Post

              Well, he got 2 or 3 things right. And 2 or 3 wrong. So, whatcha gonna do?

              Nothing,


              I asked you your definition of a leftist and you basically said nothing of substance. There's nothing for me to reply to.
              {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11567491].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by Master Blake View Post

      There was this chap that questioned everything and got nothing.
      And there was the majority of the world that questioned nothing, and fell for everything.
      Signature
      One Call Closing book https://www.amazon.com/One-Call-Clos...=1527788418&sr

      What if they're not stars? What if they are holes poked in the top of a container so we can breath?
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11567361].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author toysoldier80
    I wish what you was saying was true however sometimes you attract things unwillingly and unwanted despite putting forth the total opposite into the universe all the time.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11567667].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
      Originally Posted by toysoldier80 View Post

      I wish what you was saying was true however sometimes you attract things unwillingly and unwanted despite putting forth the total opposite into the internet all the time.

      True. One way is called a DDOS attack. <joking>


      Seriously, there is a whole lot truth to what you said about the universe. Sometimes we have good intentions with the wrong actions and to me that is one of the reasons why we sometimes attract thins unwillingly and unintentionally.
      Signature
      In the minute it took me to write this post.. someone died of Covid 19. RIP.
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11567672].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author Odahh
        Originally Posted by Jeffery View Post

        True. One way is called a DDOS attack. <joking>


        Seriously, there is a whole lot truth to what you said about the universe. Sometimes we have good intentions with the wrong actions and to me that is one of the reasons why we sometimes attract thins unwillingly and unintentionally.
        Say I am in a relationship . But I put out to the universe I want a better relationship.

        And in a few days the relationship I was in end because she up and found a better relationship first .

        So the I have to go through the process that getting in a new and better relationship requires .

        Want a new better car put it out to the law of attraction. And boom the current car gets totaled or the engine goes or what ever .so you have to go through the process of getting a new car .

        I see the law of attraction working to push you into the process. Not manifest things out of thin air .

        And can't really manifest anything new while grasping on to but you have but do not really want anymore. So the first thing that gets attracted is the ripping away of the thing you don't want but do not want to let go of .
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11567785].message }}
        • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
          Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

          Say I am in a relationship . But I put out to the universe I want a better relationship.

          And in a few days the relationship I was in end because she up and found a better relationship first .

          So the I have to go through the process that getting in a new and better relationship requires .

          Your good. Her loss your gain right!


          Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

          Want a new better car put it out to the law of attraction. And boom the current car gets totaled or the engine goes or what ever .so you have to go through the process of getting a new car .

          I see the law of attraction working to push you into the process. Not manifest things out of thin air .

          And can't really manifest anything new while grasping on to but you have but do not really want anymore. So the first thing that gets attracted is the ripping away of the thing you don't want but do not want to let go of .

          So you wanted a new car to source a new relationship right?
          Signature
          In the minute it took me to write this post.. someone died of Covid 19. RIP.
          {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11567796].message }}
          • Profile picture of the author Odahh
            Originally Posted by Jeffery View Post

            Your good. Her loss your gain right!





            So you wanted a new car to source a new relationship right?
            Those where just general examples not based on my experience. Just based on how the process of manifesting seems to work . In my life .

            I know you where jokeing about the her loss your gain. The only real loss would have been if they stayed together in a relationship that was not good for either of them.
            {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11567817].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Davidlandonvoice
    HaHa, We all know any universe doesn't care about our desires.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11577942].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author John Pawlett
    There is no such thing as The Law of Attraction!!!

    The Law of Attraction (LOA) was first muted in 1906 and appeared in a book called 'Dynamic Thought' by William Walker Atkinson.

    Then in 1910 the ground breaking book 'The Science Of Getting Rich' By Wallace D Wattles, following this came the bestseller 'Think and Grow Rich' by Napoleon Hill in 1937.

    The real success of LOA came in 2006 when 'The Secret' was published by Rhona Byrne (and subsequent film), this really brought LOA to the attention of the public.

    However the LOA doesn't exist, although it seems like a great marketing term, there is no law of attraction in the universal laws, there is however the Law of Cause and Effect which is really what most of these books allude to.

    This is where things get interesting, The Emerald Tablet or Tabula Smaragdina was written cira 3000 bc (Not a typo) and talked about 'The Law of Cause and Effect' Hermes Trismegistus is the author named in the text and its first known appearance is in a book written in Arabic between the sixth and eighth centuries. The text was first translated into Latin in the twelfth century.

    The bible (the greatest self help book ever,(until organised religions decided to use it to control people) also refers to the law of cause and effect.

    Mark 11:24 Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours.

    Another example of the Law of Cause and Effect appeared in the main philosophical Hermetic texts which have come down to us and are contained in the Corpus Hermeticum, a collection of approximately 17 treatises originally composed in Egypt and written in the Greek language.

    Also containing the 7 Hermetic principles

    The exact date for the composition of the texts is unknown, but most scholars place at least the main texts of the Corpus in the second or third centuries

    In 1908 these principles were translated into a book called 'Kybalion'.

    All of these writings talk about you being at one with the universe, you are the universe or you are God.

    It's only fairly recently that science, especially Quantum Physics has started to make sense of this.

    In his incredible book 'You are the universe' by Deepak Chopra and Menas Kafatos, demonstrated how everyone individually is connected to the universe.

    The idea of manifestation is as old as the hills and fact based, everything must first start off as a thought or intention, (name anything that hasn't started with a thought?) that thought goes into the ether as energy.

    The amount of energy expressed as an emotion behind that thought will create that thought into matter and will appear, maybe not immediately, but it will appear.

    The universe will give you signs that it's appearing, you must take action on these signs and have faith.

    This reminds me of an old joke.

    A fellow was stuck on his rooftop in a flood. He was praying to God for help.
    Soon a man in a rowboat came by and the fellow shouted to the man on the roof, "Jump in, I can save you."
    The stranded fellow shouted back, "No, it's OK, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me."
    So the rowboat went on.
    Then a motorboat came by. "The fellow in the motorboat shouted, "Jump in, I can save you."
    To this the stranded man said, "No thanks, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me. I have faith."
    So the motorboat went on.
    Then a helicopter came by and the pilot shouted down, "Grab this rope and I will lift you to safety."
    To this the stranded man again replied, "No thanks, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me. I have faith."
    So the helicopter reluctantly flew away.
    Soon the water rose above the rooftop and the man drowned. He went to Heaven. He finally got his chance to discuss this whole situation with God, at which point he exclaimed, "I had faith in you but you didn't save me, you let me drown. I don't understand why!"
    To this God replied, "I sent you a rowboat and a motorboat and a helicopter, what more did you expect?"

    There is a lot more to the Law of Cause and Effect such as being on the right vibrational level as the OP referred to, being able to connect to your unconscious mind and be free of limiting beliefs.

    Language plays a big part in 'asking' the universe to manifest your dreams, for example if you say "I want" it immediately implies a lack as in 'I want' because 'I don't have', that sends conflicting messages which cancel each other out. If you are asking for anything you must state it as if already achieved as in 'I have' or 'I am'.

    Does it work?

    I have used it to create amazing things in my life including, my partner, 3 months all expenses trip to Hawaii, all expenses paid trip to Greece, new cars, jobs, unexpected money in the thousands and exceptional health!

    I also created £8,000 in front of an audience of 200 people.

    So if you have faith just go and create the life of your dreams, for those of you that don't believe, you are manifesting anyway!

    Regards

    John
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11592815].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Profit Traveler
    Banned
    I enjoyed TheScience of Getting Rich from a guy wayyyyyy before his time. Very similar.


    More of a focus on being grateful for what you want as if you already have it.




    "All things are made of one substance"
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11594060].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
    I read it quickly.


    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11594594].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author talfighel
    If you think in negative terms, you will attract negative things.

    If you want to succeed, see yourself as a success. You can't have a negative mind and expect good results in what ever you are doing.

    But you can't just think positive and expect to get results coming in. You have to take the RIGHT actions. It's kind of like the boat theory.....

    If you are on the beach and there is a boat in the water to take you to safety, you can't think positive to make it come to you. You have to get in the water and swim to reach it.

    OK, I don't know if that made sense ;-)
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11609376].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author Jeffery
      Originally Posted by talfighel View Post

      If you think in negative terms, you will attract negative things.

      If you want to succeed, see yourself as a success. You can't have a negative mind and expect good results in what ever you are doing.

      But you can't just think positive and expect to get results coming in. You have to take the RIGHT actions. It's kind of like the boat theory.....

      If you are on the beach and there is a boat in the water to take you to safety, you can't think positive to make it come to you. You have to get in the water and swim to reach it.

      OK, I don't know if that made sense ;-)
      In Florida we tie a rope around our girlfriend's waist, have her swim out to the boat and then we pull both of em up to the beach.
      Signature
      In the minute it took me to write this post.. someone died of Covid 19. RIP.
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[11609392].message }}

Trending Topics