This Law Of Attraction Sh*t will NEVER work until you do this...

but they still acctually practice and do the workout and training and watch their diet.. and do all they need to do for recovery .. yes they may have visualized and dreamed and all the law of attraction stuff but they still put in the work they needed to put in to get there .

but many actually enjoy the hard work they put in..

many try to envoke the loa to get around the hard wrok that needs to be put in ,

when you preview lifes comming attraction .. it help with putting the effort in to shoot the movie you want

You see, Jonathan, you're not arguing for your beliefs. You're hoping that by quoting Einstein, it brings some sort of legitimacy to your posts.

You know...we could use a friendly wager to settle this:

We first agree on an experiment that is falsifiable, measurable and preferably amusing
as well as the yardsticks for success or failure. (e.g. How many rolls of toilet paper can I get in a month using LOA?)

If I win, you will change your avatar to an avatar of my choosing that you will sport for a month.

Of course, it's only fair that if I lose, you can choose an avatar of your choosing for me to sport for a month.

So to the LOA practitioners (that are regular posters):
Are you willing to wager your avatar? Do you believe or are you really trying to convince yourself and are gonna chicken out? Shall we begin negotiations?

I don't know what it means, because it's such a general statement.

If I said "Patience is strength", would I be right? Wrong? It's a pithy statement that sound like it may be profound, like Einstein's statement.

By the way, I just can't stop myself from saying this, to the few rational thinkers here..

Jonathon's last post to me was a typical "Oh yeah, then what about...?" response.

It's so commonly used that it seems reasonable, at least an expected argument.

But here is what is going on, at an unconscious level. (I don't specifically mean Jonathon, but people that use this type of argument)...

They say something...you explain why it isn't true. Rather than argue their point, they switch to something else. a quote is easiest, it takes nothing other than repeating it. In pseudoscience the argument is usually "Oh yeah? Then how do you explain....?"

And on it would go, until eventually, because nobody knows everything about everything, you would say "I don't know"...and then the other person says "Exactly my point. You don't know"...and then they feel that they won the argument.

Of course, nobody is conscious of these thoughts...but I have seen this type of argument play out. Usually about religion, but also about conspiracy theories, new age treatments, and superstitions.

It even has a name. It's called God Of The Gaps. It's a way to continually ask questions about a scientific subject, until you find a question the rational thinker cannot answer...and there is where the superstition (or other belief) creeps in.

Here's a link that describes it more fully.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_of_the_gaps



No tests. That's the doctrine of all pseudoscience and magical thinking. No tests.
Why? Because testing would make it real. And on a deep unconscious level all believers in magical thinking know...they know...it's nonsense. But it's fun nonsense that makes their life more interesting.

A few years ago, we had a Forum member tell us that he could pick lottery numbers...because he had super powers. another member put it to the test. A date was picked, and many members picked lottery numbers.

As the date got closer, the "Super powered member' started hedging, lowering expectations, until it was no better than random chance.

Of course, he got two numbers right (out of sequence) which is exactly random chance. He declared victory.

What did I learn from this? Because he kept lowering expectations, it gave ample evidence that he knew...deep down...that this was nonsense. But it gave him a feeling of importance...a fun feeling...an interesting life.

But remember. NO TESTS. an offer of a test will be treated as a joke, or dismissed by "I never gamble". But rarely accepted. and in the rare case that it's accepted, the result will be dismissed as a false result, or bad luck, or the stars being misaligned.

Jonathan; This isn't personal, although I know it feels like it. I'm attacking your arguments, not you personally. I just have a pathological hatred for bad arguments, usually directed at myself.