Making money online for free?

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Why are there so many posts showing up on Facebook and elsewhere with people seeking to make money online for free? They are setting themselves up as potential victims for the innumerable amount of scammers browsing the net daily. There never was and will never be such a thing as making money online or anywhere else for free.

Nothing in this world is for free; what comes to us seemingly without cost, somebody has already paid for. Again, when it comes to making money, there is always an up-front investment to make in money or in time, and time costs money.
What are your thoughts?
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  • Profile picture of the author Monetize
    The reason that there is so much nonsense
    being posted online right now is because so
    many people are desperate for money due
    to COVID.

    There are some free methods to making
    money online such as using social media,
    CraigsList, etc., but you would still need to
    put in some actual work as well as having
    a basic understanding of the fundamentals
    to be successful with just using freebies.

    And it seems to me that people these days,
    especially the younger ones, don't want to
    do anything, most of them can't even be
    bothered to read a book that tells exactly
    what to do, they just want shortcuts to the
    gravy train.

    I have been at this for 20+ years and taught
    myself HTML, Wordpress, graphics, and
    whatever else. I learned by doing and read
    dozens of books and there is still much to
    learn.

    I am with you, I believe that it takes money
    to make money and anything else is just
    a bunch of folly.
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    • Profile picture of the author Gary Handy
      Originally Posted by Monetize View Post

      The reason that there is so much nonsense
      being posted online right now is because so
      many people are desperate for money due
      to COVID.

      There are some free methods to making
      money online such as using social media,
      CraigsList, etc., but you would still need to
      put in some actual work as well as having
      a basic understanding of the fundamentals
      to be successful with just using freebies.

      And it seems to me that people these days,
      especially the younger ones, don't want to
      do anything, most of them can't even be
      bothered to read a book that tells exactly
      what to do, they just want shortcuts to the
      gravy train.

      I have been at this for 20+ years and taught
      myself HTML, Wordpress, graphics, and
      whatever else. I learned by doing and read
      dozens of books and there is still much to
      learn.

      I am with you, I believe that it takes money
      to make money and anything else is just
      a bunch of folly.
      You are absolutely correct; it couldn't be better said!
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  • What bothers me just as much is that Facebook allows ads like this. They're obviously scams but they're not blocked because FB is making a lot of money from their ads.
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  • Profile picture of the author Serene Carmen
    The ads are possibly against Facebook's ad policy. Best report these when you see them Gary. You could save someone from getting scammed!
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    • Profile picture of the author Gary Handy
      Originally Posted by Serene Carmen View Post

      The ads are possibly against Facebook's ad policy. Best report these when you see them Gary. You could save someone from getting scammed!
      The thought (that I can report it) never came to me before; I think I'll be doing that from now onward. Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    The ads are possibly against Facebook's ad policy.
    But - he didn't complain about ads - he complained about "people seeking to make money online for free".



    What possible benefit is there of spending your time 'reporting' people on Facebook? Are you qualified to be judging the comments/questions of others on Facebook OR of ads approved for FB?

    FB has it's own rules and standards - trying to be 'internet police' is seldom a good use of a marketer's time.
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    • Profile picture of the author Serene Carmen
      It was a suggestion Kay. Everyone on this forum is capable of deciding for themselves how to spend their time.

      Personally I have reported a few inappropriate accounts on both Twitter and Facebook.
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      • Profile picture of the author Monetize
        Originally Posted by Serene Carmen View Post

        It was a suggestion Kay. Everyone on this forum is capable of deciding for themselves how to spend their time.

        Personally I have reported a few inappropriate accounts on both Twitter and Facebook.

        I don't typically involve myself in other
        people's conversations and Kay doesn't
        need anyone defending her but she did
        not even say anything about how people
        here should spend their time.

        She said, "trying to be 'internet police' is
        seldom a good use of a marketer's time."
        Typically, marketers would spend their
        time doing more constructive things than
        searching out FB ad violations. But then
        again, everybody here is not a marketer.

        I am a professional domainer, among
        other things, I usually spend a couple
        of hours a day looking for interesting
        domains to assign to my broker. I like
        to come to the forums to take a break
        from all of that and whatever else I
        have going on. But I do consider
        myself as a marketer because most
        of my websites are affiliate sites.

        Anyway, this is just a friendly word to
        the wise and I don't mean any offense
        to anyone but I would be careful about
        how I address the moderators here.
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        • Profile picture of the author Serene Carmen
          Hi there

          I never said that anyone (internet marketer or not) should spend their time seaching for ad violations, this would be a bad use of anyone's time!

          I am an internet marketer, an affiliate site and working on info products at the moment. If something spammy or inappropriate shows up on my feed, do I take the time to report it? Yes I do, because to me it's the right thing to do. As I said every individual chooses what's a good use of his or her time.

          With regards to your second comment, Kay doesn't pull any punches (I respect that) because I am much the same, should I be concerned about disagreeing or offending her because she's a mod?
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          • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
            Originally Posted by Serene Carmen View Post

            With regards to your second comment, Kay doesn't pull any punches (I respect that) because I am much the same, should I be concerned about disagreeing or offending her because she's a mod?
            No problem disagreeing with a mod. They are mods, not Gods. However, being blatantly offensive to *anyone* might cause some problems. Rudeness, name calling, etc. are clearly against the rules no matter who it's directed to. I don't see that in this thread.

            Mark
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            • Profile picture of the author Monetize
              Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post

              No problem disagreeing with a mod. They are mods, not Gods. However, being blatantly offensive to *anyone* might cause some problems. Rudeness, name calling, etc. are clearly against the rules no matter who it's directed to. I don't see that in this thread.

              Are mods gods? That is a good question to ponder.
              If you all have authority over our accounts and your
              decisions are final, in the sense of being powerful,
              the answer would be YES.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
    Part of the problem is mixed messaging.

    For example, people talk about people wanting to make money for free and that being bad, while at the same time offering lists of tools that are free. That caters to the freebie mindset. That says, in a way, that money isn't needed.

    If tools are one of the biggest investments people need for any business and if a person can get the tools they need to do online business for free, doesn't that mean they can get started for free or much cheaper than they expected? Doesn't that feed the desire to find and do everything for free?

    I'm not calling any particular person out about this. Mixed messaging on a number of issues is a common thing that happens here a lot.

    Mark
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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    Originally Posted by Gary Handy View Post

    Why are there so many posts showing up on Facebook and elsewhere with people seeking to make money online for free? They are setting themselves up as potential victims for the innumerable amount of scammers browsing the net daily. There never was and will never be such a thing as making money online or anywhere else for free.

    ?
    do i have to explain how the YouTube google and Facebook algorithms work .. because of the online tracking data the big internet companies have on you .. the price for their free services ..

    so your online behavior is probably why you see a lot of this ..i search for a wide variety of things ..to i see a verity of posts and adds on my social media accounts..
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    Hadn't thought of that. I clicked on an image to see lanfear's new leather couch in the OT section here....and google has been showing me similar couches now for days.
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    • Profile picture of the author Odahh
      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      Hadn't thought of that. I clicked on an image to see lanfear's new leather couch in the OT section here....and google has been showing me similar couches now for days.
      i actually chose the harder answer .. the easier answer was .. as long as there has been money there are stories even written on clay tablets of people looking for easy way to earn money .. which usually eads to a string of bad things happening ..

      the other answer could have been in social media especially post you see farm more of the worst human behaviors expressed openly than 99 percent of the real world it generally more anti social media than social media ..
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    With regards to your second comment, Kay doesn't pull any punches (I respect that) because I am much the same, should I be concerned about disagreeing or offending her because she's a mod?

    Nope...I can take it
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    More like disciples - we don't make the rules, just enforce them.
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  • Profile picture of the author DABK
    There are many reasons, dependent on people's personality and situation:


    1. There are people who see a downturn in whatever line of work they are and are looking to get ready.



    Of these, there are three kinds: those who do not care if it's free or paid, those who are not willing to invest till they get a feel they might want to go into it for real, and those who only pay.


    2. There are people who lost everything (did not see the downturn coming).


    Of these, there are two kinds: the ones who're desperate and broke and those who are not desperate (either because their spouse still makes money, they have reserves, or whatever).


    3. There are people who live betting. They cane be part of the first or second group. They think that if they try enough free methods, they will hit upon something that works.


    4. There are the clueless or the amateurs. They do not understand and will never understand what it takes to make it as an internet marketer or they know are not willing to put in the effort but they like to play internet marketer (without investing too much money).


    5. Among all, there are those who believe enough people are essential decent and generous and, therefore, some of the 'for free' stuff will contain truly useful and sufficient info. They are not wrong. On this forum, Addams has, in the Warrior section, a way of making money with pay-per-click ads. It's a bit dated, but you can still use it to get you started. Will probably not make a lot of money doing just that, but you can, if you implement all he details, make 1000-2000 / month using nothing but no-money-cost resources.


    6. Among all of the above, there are those who understand that no-money-cost methods require work, and often more work than paid methods, who are both willing and able to put in the work.


    By the way, if you're in the right mood, you can learn a lot from free... though often it is a way of not doing something.


    I started with internet anything in 2010. Free thought me not to put all my eggs in one basket, to not think that once I get something going I'm done, That once you know how to make $0.01/month, you also know how to make $100/month or $10,000/month (or any other number you want). That I do not like building websites. That I do not have what it takes to design a gorgeous website. That a website does not have to be gorgeous to make you money. That there's more money to be made (and easier) in selling gold-digging tools than digging for gold.


    My first 4-paid lessons:

    1. how to create a good Squidoo lens (intended by the creator of the product I had purchase)

    2. I hate making Squidoo lenses (not intended)
    3. I hate marketing Vizio TV's (even though it made me money).
    4. Not a good idea to create Squidoo lenses (if your goal is to have long-term streams of income). Then, by extension, not a good idea to rely on other people's websites to make you money... Only use them to back up your own properties.


    I learned all of that for $39 and the time it took me to absorb the information. In other words (considering the results I got), dirt cheap.


    Originally Posted by Gary Handy View Post

    Why are there so many posts showing up on Facebook and elsewhere with people seeking to make money online for free? They are setting themselves up as potential victims for the innumerable amount of scammers browsing the net daily. There never was and will never be such a thing as making money online or anywhere else for free.

    Nothing in this world is for free; what comes to us seemingly without cost, somebody has already paid for. Again, when it comes to making money, there is always an up-front investment to make in money or in time, and time costs money.
    What are your thoughts?
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    • Profile picture of the author Monetize
      Originally Posted by DABK View Post


      My first 4-paid lessons:

      1. how to create a good Squidoo lens (intended by the creator of the product I had purchase)
      2. I hate making Squidoo lenses (not intended)
      3. I hate marketing Vizio TV's (even though it made me money).
      4. Not a good idea to create Squidoo lenses (if your goal is to have long-term streams of income). Then, by extension, not a good idea to rely on other people's websites to make you money... Only use them to back up your own properties.

      I got a laugh from this! I made over fifty Squidoo Lenses
      back in the day. I know this because I recorded everything
      including the page addresses. Most of the links still work in
      the archives too. I don't remember what prompted me and
      a whole lot of other people to make all those Lenses, but
      they were all the rage, weren't they.
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  • Profile picture of the author talfighel
    To make money online, you need to invest money.

    Too many fake gurus say that all you need is to post free ads with links in them and you will make money selling other people's products.

    It is far more then that.
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  • Profile picture of the author Just Curious 66
    Banned
    Pick a cosmic hypnosis affiliate program + your list = thou$ands overnight
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  • Profile picture of the author GordonJ
    Originally Posted by Gary Handy View Post

    Why are there so many posts showing up on Facebook and elsewhere with people seeking to make money online for free? They are setting themselves up as potential victims for the innumerable amount of scammers browsing the net daily. There never was and will never be such a thing as making money online or anywhere else for free.

    Nothing in this world is for free; what comes to us seemingly without cost, somebody has already paid for. Again, when it comes to making money, there is always an up-front investment to make in money or in time, and time costs money.
    What are your thoughts?
    The media has latched onto THE GREAT RESIGNATION idea, that people don't want to go back to the office, and there is some truth to that.

    So, it is safe to assume the Covid Crisis (Round One) is one reason why so many people are looking for alternatives.

    People looking to make money, for FREE, has always been an evergreen, albeit niched, market. Ads from 60 years ago in magazines offering up $$$ making businesses for free.

    Who, really, knows why Facebook, et al, do anything they do, it all seems so arbitrary, one guy getting away with anything, another being banned for the same thing. It is what it is.

    It seems your concern is really about how naive (or silly?) people are who think there is a free lunch out there somewhere.

    The WF now has a 20 year history that shows those ideas have been continuous and unabated all this time. After all the WSO section is full of ideas of little to NO work (with the done for you programs) and some even claim it can all be done for free.

    My thought is, why does this upset or concern you? It has been proven month after month that we can NOT give people common sense, we can't tell, yell, ridicule, shame, blame or in any way convince them otherwise...it is the lesson they will have to learn on their own.

    GordonJ
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  • Originally Posted by Gary Handy View Post

    Why are there so many posts showing up on Facebook and elsewhere with people seeking to make money online for free? They are setting themselves up as potential victims for the innumerable amount of scammers browsing the net daily. There never was and will never be such a thing as making money online or anywhere else for free.

    Nothing in this world is for free; what comes to us seemingly without cost, somebody has already paid for. Again, when it comes to making money, there is always an up-front investment to make in money or in time, and time costs money.
    What are your thoughts?
    Yep, You are exactly right.
    I have been Marketing Online for years, and I am yet to see a FREE Opportunity that has either worked or even been around in the long term.

    Money can't be generated by free.....Marketing real tangible products or good digital products for money is the way to go.

    Stay away from 'free' scams
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  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
    Originally Posted by Monetize View Post

    Are mods gods? That is a good question to ponder.
    If you all have authority over our accounts and your
    decisions are final, in the sense of being powerful,
    the answer would be YES.
    Admin is the God, (All Knowing and All Seeing) the rest are Angels, (as a very loose term) who have a range of chosen powers, bestowed upon by that God..

    Some use it wisely and some don't, but you tend to use it wisely if you have been on both sides of the fence.

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  • Profile picture of the author Bald Avenger
    Heroes don't usually sit om the sofa eating pop-corn.
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  • Profile picture of the author clarkfaint
    There really is no such thing as FREE money. There is always an exchange of value, be it time or effort of some kind.

    As marketers, we are expected to offer our customers something of value that will help them (make or save money, save time, lose weight, etc.) in exchange for money from them.

    The people that realize and accept this now will make a lot more money and save a lot more time on their journey.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Heinz
    100% of those who didn't take action never made jack squat.

    Food for thought: tire-kickers are everywhere, they just don't have the guts to be more ASSERTIVE

    To ask for the date, close the sale, make people happy and inspire others who inspire you.

    Close your eyes and summon your Master - do it out loud. Relax and sense the silence for a minute. Pat yourself on the back for coming back to reality. I hope you're ready for the Master will appear.

    For example, I made dough being an affiliate in a non saturated market brimming with rival affiliates. I thought, they had to be nuts to not promote this affiliate program. And they didn't! Then I took action. Listen up, visualize it and then take action - the amazing part is that sometimes you don't even to move a finger.... to move the needle (haha). Visualization showed me which path to walk on and I did.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gaylenaramo
    Actually, there are no one hundred percent ways to make money online, everything because every activity which implies money gaining, also implies huge risks. The more risks you have to take on yourself, the more profits you can get in future. However, there are some activities, which don't imply risk at all. For example, freelancing. The only risk you have as a freelancer, is that you can be cheated on by scammers. Nevertheless, scammers don't like such activities, because it's pretty hard to cheat on somebody on freelance platforms.
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