After failing, what did you change?

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Did you succeed in a business after multiple failures? What did you do to figure out what you did wrong, and what did you change that made the next business work?
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  • Profile picture of the author savidge4
    Originally Posted by Jeff Fairchild View Post

    Did you succeed in a business after multiple failures? What did you do to figure out what you did wrong, and what did you change that made the next business work?
    "Success" is not just a thing that happens... its a string of events - the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly - failure is a baked in element of "Success" ANYONE... that says they had success and never failed is straight up lying. Just not how the world works.

    There are only 2 - 3 ish failures you need to be concerned with #1 "I Cant" #2 "I Quit" and #3 ish is "I Wont" and I include this one as an "Ish" because in the right context "I wont" is indeed a valid option, but is generally followed up with hiring someone that will
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  • Profile picture of the author GordonJ
    Originally Posted by Jeff Fairchild View Post

    Did you succeed in a business after multiple failures? What did you do to figure out what you did wrong, and what did you change that made the next business work?
    Success in a business? Measured by_______?? My most profitable business, more moolah than brains, top of the heap at the time...nearly killed me. Didn't make me stronger either, but man I was loved at the bank. One of the most miserable times of my life.

    Failure> I like savidge4's thinking along the lines of a process.

    It may seem climbing a mountain, but once at the top, the view may be a bit obstructed and life may even be better in the valley.

    Also, one kind of a business may have very different challenges and we need new, different solutions, but I think your gist has to do with mind set and attitude about what one does after not reaching a goal.

    Allow me to compare it to a round of golf. For me to shoot a 67 on a decent public course would be success, but Tiger or Jack or Arnie...that same score on THEIR card meant they had a bad day. See?

    So first thing, is to know your own definition of what a success looks like, how would you define it, so you recognize it when you do see it?

    Within a round of golf, everyone, even those legends I mentioned are going to make mistakes, FAIL, at hitting the shot they intended.

    You want a great metaphor for success and why so many fail? Visit any local course and watch the amateurs (and some hothead pros too)...throw and cuss and swear when they hit a bad shot, and then go and do it again and again as they scrape that ball around the course.

    A successful pro, may have instant disgust with what happened, but they don't carry that into the next shot, they have to focus on the task right in front of them, not how they screwed up the one behind.

    I think this is part of that process, when one comes to understand that failure is, more often than not, either an event along the path, or a mistake which can be made up for.

    Failure doesn't learn.
    Failure repeats mistakes. Relives negative events.

    If you were to read a 1000 biographies of successful people, like I have, you would find story after story of men and women who just kept at it, without REPEATING their mistakes and learning from their failures.

    Now, back to my Golf Metaphor. GOLF - LIFE, both four letter words.

    A professional begins his round (business start up) with a PLAN. How to approach each hole, the challenges, the penalties, and then, that plan gets disrupted and he has to scramble to get back on plan.

    So, how many steps (shots) are there in your business to be a success?

    Each hole of Golf could present you with one of the four.

    Tee. Approach. RECOVERY (FAILURE) Putting.

    It is a framework for the game. So many businesses are started just like the golfer at your local course, without a grasp or command of the tools needed to be successful, they are, like most newer business people, their own worst enemy.

    When a golfer misses a Tee shot or an Approach, and needs to Recover:

    Tendencies. Averages. Repeatability. Patience.

    In business, what would be your tendency when something goes wrong? What is your lifetime batting average doing such things, can you repeat an earlier success to recover and do you have the patience with your self to pick back up and carry on?

    Anyhow, see, in GOLF, the ball gives you the best feedback. It tells you exactly what you did wrong. THE RESULT, of where the ball lands after you hit it or try to, has to be analyzed without emotion.

    And this is where FAILURE comes into business so heavily, take the emotion of failure away from it, and see what you need to do, or redo, to make it successful.

    Then, when faced with a similar situation ( an uphill lie on a dog leg right) then you will know what NOT to do.

    Failure doesn't remember, and believes this time it will be different.

    Well, my two cents. FOUR!!!

    GordonJ
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  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
    Originally Posted by Jeff Fairchild View Post

    Did you succeed in a business after multiple failures? What did you do to figure out what you did wrong, and what did you change that made the next business work?
    Easy adopt Will Smiths approach of succeed or die.

    But having to succeed since there is nothing else left to try works just as well for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author paullancer
    well , i changed the targets , as we know u target the clients ! and i was targeting the wrong people
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  • Profile picture of the author Artkantos
    If you don't quit, failures are stepping stones to your success... Either you win or you learn, every day I am more and more sure that success in business depends above all on your mentality. At least that was my main change 6 years ago, after "failing" miserably in my business for years
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    • Originally Posted by Artkantos View Post

      If you don't quit, failures are stepping stones to your success... Either you win or you learn, every day I am more and more sure that success in business depends above all on your mentality. At least that was my main change 6 years ago, after "failing" miserably in my business for years
      I'm really poor at changing after self-inflicted failures. I think it's one of my biggest weaknesses.

      At times I lack common sense.

      Any advice?
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      • Profile picture of the author Troy Arrandale
        What do you mean by self-inflicting?

        You're failing on purpose?

        Like you see a great way to go or strategy and yet you deliberately don't do it or you deliberately try a known way to fail?
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  • Profile picture of the author Corey Pluto
    The light bulb went off when I transitioned from the typical programming to a cosmic one.

    Now everything is so lucid.

    I am one with light. hehe.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by Corey Pluto View Post

      The light bulb went off when I transitioned from the typical programming to a cosmic one.

      Now everything is so lucid.

      I am one with light. hehe.
      I was before the dark times,....before the empire.

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  • Profile picture of the author art72
    The most common answer with facing my (2) favorite teachers (*humility and failure) was a change in thinking and mindset.

    The irony with failure is it creates a sense of humility, and often people steer clear of admitting their failures, most sweep those experiences under the rug, hide them in their closets, or ignore the reality that without failure (and humility) we'd learn absolutely nothing.

    I like Gordon's example, as one man's failure is another man's (or women's) success, and in many cases the harder the climb the lonelier it gets as you gain altitude! *Some may even prefer NOT to CLIMB at all after a tumble or two.

    For years, I've made a satire of failure and humility, I like to make fun of my failures and treat humility with a side dish of humility, as the notion becomes; "Flying is easy, it's the landing that'll kill you!" - So, for anybody who has attempted to "escape" the proverbial "Cabbage Patch" (or the valley" and reach new heights - it's the bumps, bruises, and missing skin that often haunts us NOT to try again... because failure sucks!

    BUT... just like a toddler standing up and starting those first few steps, they're going to tumble, and all-the-while "IF" every time we skinned a knee or took a tumble we chose not to stand back up, we'd be crawling on all fours to this very day.

    IDK, there's something rewarding in facing fear, humility, and failure... I don't think we should dwell in our past failures too long, but... there is almost always a lesson to be learned when we examine those experiences with honesty and a certain ability to admit; when we are wrong. (*Some people BS their way through life and I for one have no time for those who say they're going to do something and then ignore the responsibility of actually doing it!) - I raised my kids by these same principle - don't lie to me, don't say you're going to do something and then not try to do it, and don't screw the one's who love you! (*Those were my 3 primary rules in life. And, still people struggle with those simple ideals - almost equally to the 10 Commandments, lol.)

    I LOVE Frank Kern's "Don't Be a P*SSY" video on YouTube... he lays it out as a boxer who doesn't want to get hit... it's hilarious, and dead-on point to how life works, it's brilliant! (*"You're going to get hit, you're going to get knocked on your @$$, BUT... if you get back up... you might just tap into those massive oil wells!"

    Perhaps, breaking the routine of failure is harder than the failure itself... fear can be paralyzing and traumatic, and still, those who face those fears often go on to do great things and set a better example for others to either avoid or at avert the need to fail repeating someone else's mistakes. Maybe the teachers who understand failure become the greater teachers, and in my opinion, there are no greater Professor's than Professor's of Failure & Humility!

    We should take notes and apply all-in-which others have shared throughout history, otherwise we may still be wondering why wiping our backside with "poison ivy" didn't produce the results one hoped to achieve... and still, we itch for success, LOL.

    So... the answer to the question; change your mindset - take the heightened view and raise your conscious-awareness to the idea; there are formulas, blueprints, and proven methods to produce specific results... most of us, including myself STRUGGLE with the idea of COPYING someone else's success - as it often FEELS like we are cheating the system, AND, WE ARE!!! (*We mirror the examples and the influences of those before us and in our current company, it is nearly a scientific FACT!)
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    • Profile picture of the author GordonJ
      Originally Posted by art72 View Post


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      So... the answer to the question; change your mindset - take the heightened view and raise your conscious-awareness to the idea; there are formulas, blueprints, and proven methods to produce specific results... most of us, including myself STRUGGLE with the idea of COPYING someone else's success - as it often FEELS like we are cheating the system, AND, WE ARE!!! (*We mirror the examples and the influences of those before us and in our current company, it is nearly a scientific FACT!)
      My 25 year questions remain the same, what do you want, and why? Two simple questions that almost every new Warrior can NOT answer with any clarity. If one can answer both, then what is missing from the minds of the seeker, is how to ask the next set of questions. Like Kay, my failures have been in real life, online, for over 25 years, the goal of making money hasn't been very difficult. Exchange value with a hungry market. OLD, old world advice,

      And reflected here when I ask a new Warrior what they bring to the table, they all WANT to make money, some in desperate NEED to do it quickly, and so they want, they need, but they have nothing to share, nothing to give (they DO, but they just don't know how to make that a product or service which CAN be traded for moolah).

      In my previous post, I compared life to golf, and went over the FOUR SHOTS OF GOLF, the TARP system, which sold as an audio, both cassette and CD, and I made some really decent money.

      I followed that up with HOW TO PLAY AN UNKNOWN GOLF COURSE LIKE A BIG BUX PRO, which also did well in the market. My third audio/book, THE J-SWING, INSTANT GOLF MASTERY....was a total flop. Failed big time. NO one wanted to learn a new way to hit the golf ball, even though I had the data to prove it was better than the PGA method.

      Anyhow, new Warriors, or those Warriors who have failed and are looking for a way to get back on their feet, fit the profile of those who bought my second audio program, HOW TO PLAY AN UNKNOWN COURSE.

      It is akin to a Warrior wanting to blog, or be an affiliate, or ecom, or any of the ways to make money online.

      The average golfer will score almost double his handicap when playing a new course, whereas the pro, may tear an unknown course apart, because of his skill.

      Standing on the first tee looking out over the valley of a strange course, can be as daunting a task as looking out on the landscape of INTERNET Marketing and thinking there must be secret knowledge, a shortcut, on how to do it.

      The problem for both the avg golfer and New or Renewed Warrior, is...they lack the basic skills to make the adjustments. Hills and valley courses are going to have several side hill lies in the round, if you don't know how to adjust your swing on those shots, chances are you are going to create more problems.

      The solution, and it isn't hard...is the same for both the avg golfer and Warrior who hasn't had success...because if they have HAD some in the past, they can draw on some of that to build on for today's, NOW success.

      Warriors, too many, come out here wanting to beat Tiger Woods (Russell Brunson, Frank Kern) and THINK BIG, fake it til they make it, (never do), and all that belief and mindset garbage. (A trigger word). Watch.

      Take all these recent blog questions. In the time between an OP first post and a few days later, they could have gone to Wix, to Wordpress.org and set up a blog and play with it to see what they can do and which one, or another might suit their purpose. But asking experience isn't a bad idea, but being able to discern the wheat from the chaff is also a skill.

      As for making money, online or off. Keep it simple, exchange value, make offers, have something to sell, have people with money who want to buy and stand in the gap and haul it in.

      As for beating or cheating the "system", keep in mind, we create our own systems, and make our own rules, but there isn't any outside force holding anyone down.

      And, regarding playing an unknown course, where do the raindrops drain...and the IM equivalent of that, is, where do the dollars flow, and adjust your game accordingly.

      GordonJ
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    In life, I've had a few failures. In internet marketing, no failure - just a few things that didn't work.


    The 'failure/success' talk is 'dark/light' and dramatic. But success is often the result of more things going right than went wrong. I can't always control LIFE but internet marketing doesn't hold that much drama for me.


    If I do something right online, it usually works...and the question becomes whether it works well enough to continue or expand that practice. If I miss a step or make a misjudgement online, 'it' doesn't work so I move on to something else or tweak and try again.



    There are degrees of success and failure - and often they aren't that far apart.
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    • Profile picture of the author Troy Arrandale
      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post






      ... but internet marketing doesn't hold that much drama for me.

      ... If I miss a step or make a misjudgement online, 'it' doesn't work so I move on to something else or tweak and try again.



      There are degrees of success and failure - and often they aren't that far apart.
      Wow not much drama! So cool to read that.
      I aspire to that.

      For me there's a lot of drama because I'm a low income individual rising out of thirty previous years of some minor brain damage (i take a moment
      and realize the miracle of that) with a husband who is generous enough and has just enough extra income for me to invest in learning all this.

      So good to hear about the steps you take to rise out of failure or mistake, because this is what I've been doing.

      I think at times I feel a failure because I haven't been doing IM long enough, I'm 63 and started late in the game at 60.

      My secret to continuing despite failure or setback is my daily strong personal spirituality. I have made a habit of daily meditation and asking for guidance since approximately 2006. I did it lightly before that too, but for 16 years now it's not only my habit, it's my lifeblood.

      And that has kept me trying at life despite tragedy failure and setback, eventually led to finding a way to help my brain and body health which then led me to learning IM.

      If OP or anyone reading this can gain anything from my story, so much the better.
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  • Profile picture of the author Wealthkey
    Originally Posted by Jeff Fairchild View Post

    Did you succeed in a business after multiple failures? What did you do to figure out what you did wrong, and what did you change that made the next business work?
    I feel like if one has failed at a business a few times then it is them not the product they are selling. just hire someone that knows what they are doing and seat back. people use their brains differently and different working method, what you haven't thought about... someone else will.
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