It's not what you achieve in's what you overcome.

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Not really much more to say then the title. I just saw this quote on Shoemoneys blog and loved it
#achieve #lifeit #overcome
  • Profile picture of the author juano9z
    I think that what you achive in life makes you inside. Every bit counts dont you think
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  • Profile picture of the author acrasial
    There is a saying, which tells:

    "A clever person solves a problem, a wise person avoids it."

    This thread reminds me of that, because of a few things...

    1. To overcome something, you have to step out of your comfort zone to begin with, otherwise there is nothing to overcome since you are comfortable with it. While this is all fine, and dandy, because it's a choice, there is another concern here:

    2. Some choices are not the best, and if a person purposefully makes the same choice over and over, even though it's not in their best interest (some would call it a mistake, or a habit), are you really overcoming anything at all then?

    3. Do we really overcome anything at all, when everything just is in the first place?

    For instance, your feelings are there. Throughout your entire life you will feel doubt. You may have moments where you feel like you have overcome it, but will find it creeping in there again once in a while.
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  • Profile picture of the author mrmoonlight
    I think Rocky said it best. What matters isn't how hard you can hit. Its how hard you can get hit and still keep moving forward.
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    • Profile picture of the author Michi Kono
      Originally Posted by mrmoonlight View Post

      I think Rocky said it best. What matters isn't how hard you can hit. Its how hard you can get hit and still keep moving forward.
      You damn right! ...and I love the quote! In fact it's on my wall now.
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      • Profile picture of the author Isaachun
        A great quote. Thanks for sharing.

        However, I'd rather put it as:

        "It's not what you achieve in's who you become."

        Who we become is much more important than what we achieve. The title, social status, money, cars, houses are all 'side effect' of who we become when we strive towards our goals.

        To state it another way, to achieve a certain financial/social status, we need to grow ourselves to become a great person and the status, money etc will appear in our life. Think of all the success stories you've heard and you're bound to find how that person have to grow to be an incredible person in order to achieve the kind of success they enjoy.

        My mentor has told me once. 'Your income only grows when you grow.' Think of the what you have to become emotionally, skill wise, knowledge, etc to achieve your goals.

        T.Harv Eker ask this question that helps put things into perspective: What is the point of climbing the Everest mountain? Is it to reach the top? NO! It is to grow yourself to be this incredible human being ABLE to climb Everest. It's never about the mountain, it's all about growing YOU!


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    • Profile picture of the author acms
      Originally Posted by mrmoonlight View Post

      I think Rocky said it best. What matters isn't how hard you can hit. Its how hard you can get hit and still keep moving forward.
      Top post! For me Rocky movies are a great source of motivation. Infact, when I was sitting exams, in the week leading up to exam day I would get stuck into Rocky movies for motivation!

      In relation to the thread heading - I agree with this, I would also like to add, I believe that the obstacles you overcome give you the strength to achieve your goals.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    If it inspires you it's a good quote for you. I love discussions like this because I love quotes and words and meanings. That's why I can't resist jumping in here. Travis, I think I've agreed with just about every post you've made, so please don't take offense by me taking a contrary position for a change, but...

    I find it hard to appreciate that quote because to me it's a circular statement. If you overcome something, that's an achievement. If you achieve something, you've overcome something. To me that quote is kind of like saying winning doesn't matter, the only thing that matters is winning.

    If it's what we overcome that counts, maybe we should go get ourselves into a world of hurt so we have more to overcome. If you're always doing stupid things instead of living intelligently, you'll have a lot more to overcome, but what does that prove? It proves you can overcome your own stupidity, but I'd rather live intelligently, wouldn't you?

    Obviously Shoemoney was trying to say something about overcoming adversity, but I think he's chasing his own tail with that one. Here's a slightly different way to look at it that I think is more encompassing and a truer statement: It's not what happens to us in life that matters most, but what we become.

    Just when you think you've got it all figured out, someone changes the rules.

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  • Profile picture of the author Allicin
    Yeah, it's a good one. I prefer the one that says "It's not what happens to you in life that matters but how you react to it" though... but both are really good ones... very inspirational...
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  • Profile picture of the author Geenius
    Another way you could say it is: You overcome by focussing not on what you dont have but on what you do have, because its through using what you do have that will help you attain to what you dont have.
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