What is a REAL coach?

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There seems to me to be two types of coach.

1. Someone that has been there and done what you want to achieve. They can help you through the processes to get to your goals.

2. Someone that is simply a good coach. They know how to get the best out of you and how to help you achieve what you want to achieve. But they won't physically help you.

Would love your thoughts on this.

Maybe you have a coach?
Maybe you are a coach?
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  • Profile picture of the author greyhatmaster
    1. In most cases these coaches will not be available for one on one training. If they are available they will be very costly.

    2. I recommend type 2 coaches as most often you know what to do, but you will not be taking action.

    You know that if you write an article for ezine and promote it you will rank but doing it is the hard part.
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  • Profile picture of the author iamchrisgreen
    Thanks for the feedback greyhatmaster
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
    Whoever can get the best out of you is a great coach.

    Select a motivator above all else. These types have usually been through what you have experienced, or something similar.

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  • Profile picture of the author jay walters
    I'd say a real coach is someone who can tell you straight what you need to do in a love language you can understand. He would go out of his way you to make an impact in your life as a whole.

    Motivation will be a great part of your relationship and he will guide you through the process - not really pickup the weight for you, but is there to pickup the slack. He will have you best interest at heart and will always point you towards your goal.

    He'll also keep you accountable to your commitments so that you won't go messing around.

    Hope this helps.
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    • Profile picture of the author KristieDean
      Originally Posted by jay walters View Post

      I'd say a real coach is someone who can tell you straight what you need to do in a love language you can understand. He would go out of his way you to make an impact in your life as a whole.

      Motivation will be a great part of your relationship and he will guide you through the process - not really pickup the weight for you, but is there to pickup the slack. He will have you best interest at heart and will always point you towards your goal.

      He'll also keep you accountable to your commitments so that you won't go messing around.

      Hope this helps.
      I agree, and would like to add this - a good coach won't be afraid to tell you what you are doing wrong.
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  • Profile picture of the author AylaPress
    My best coach ever kept detailed records, down to the minute. He never hesitated to tell you exactly where you were. Always respectful, but tough love when called for.
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  • Profile picture of the author thedropoutkid
    Originally Posted by freelance4money View Post

    There seems to me to be two types of coach.

    1. Someone that has been there and done what you want to achieve. They can help you through the processes to get to your goals.

    2. Someone that is simply a good coach. They know how to get the best out of you and how to help you achieve what you want to achieve. But they won't physically help you.

    Would love your thoughts on this.

    Maybe you have a coach?
    Maybe you are a coach?
    A great coach is someone who has what you want in the physical sense. Career, wealth, relationship and all. Those are the people you listen to..not the gurus...who act like they do..and write a book about it..
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    • Profile picture of the author ucajack
      I don't know if professional life coaches do end up making a difference in your life.So far in my case i have relied on self help and motivational books and they did made some positive difference in my life.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mac Milky
    How about a perfect mix of both coach types you describe above?

    Somebody who has been there, done it and also brings the best out of you. Would be great!
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    • Profile picture of the author hazel0513
      Originally Posted by Mac Milky View Post

      How about a perfect mix of both coach types you describe above?

      Somebody who has been there, done it and also brings the best out of you. Would be great!
      Agree. As that person will know how to use the right language to motivate you. But if in the case that I can only choose one, I would prefer the second one.

      I could learn all the "tactics" myself, but when it comes to having the "right mindset" and immerse yourself long enough in that motivated stage is not easy. I certainly need one like that.

      Another thinking: If I can't get a "hybrid coach" like Mac Milky mentioned, perhaps I can get two coachs? One teaches me tactics and another brings the best out of me. random thought.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mark McClure
        #1 I would call a "mentor".

        #2 There are coaches and Coaches...
        While some individuals are professional coaches, it's easy enough to spot a coaching mindset in the people you associate with - online or in person.

        And it's this...

        "We are all better than we know. If only we can be brought to realise this, we may never be prepared to settle for anything less."
        Kurt Hahn : Co-founder of the Outward Bound organization.

        In my experience, you're coaching when you acknowledge that potential in other people and act accordingly.
        And likewise, people with your interests at heart will see you in a greater light.
        The word "coaching" need not even be mentioned :-)
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        • Profile picture of the author asheybrns
          Originally Posted by Mark McClure View Post

          "We are all better than we know. If only we can be brought to realise this, we may never be prepared to settle for anything less."
          Kurt Hahn : Co-founder of the Outward Bound organization.
          Very true lines, as a matter of fact that's what a coach does. A coach makes us realize our true potential and help us work accordingly, they will be just showing us the path but it's us who has to walk along it.
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          • Profile picture of the author VenusCow
            Originally Posted by asheybrns View Post

            Very true lines, as a matter of fact that's what a coach does. A coach makes us realize our true potential and help us work accordingly, they will be just showing us the path but it's us who has to walk along it.
            Sounds great, although getting the student to do the work is where experience of life comes in.
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        • Profile picture of the author JustinDupre
          Originally Posted by Mark McClure View Post

          #1 I would call a "mentor".

          #2 There are coaches and Coaches...
          While some individuals are professional coaches, it's easy enough to spot a coaching mindset in the people you associate with - online or in person.

          And it's this...

          "We are all better than we know. If only we can be brought to realise this, we may never be prepared to settle for anything less."
          Kurt Hahn : Co-founder of the Outward Bound organization.

          In my experience, you're coaching when you acknowledge that potential in other people and act accordingly.
          And likewise, people with your interests at heart will see you in a greater light.
          The word "coaching" need not even be mentioned :-)
          I agree with you.. A great coach will be able to work with your strength and weakness accordingly to bring the best of your potential out there. He or she would be able to keep you in track and know which direction to guide you to achieve your goals.
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          • Profile picture of the author Chantal-Louise
            I think a real coach is someone who you respect so much. Respect i think is just an essential ingridient for success. If your coach has the respect then they will get the best out of each member of the team.
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            • Profile picture of the author Norma Rickman
              I think a real coach praises your successes, but also calls you out on your mistakes as well. I am fortunate enough to still work with a coach who has given me so much of his time, energy and resources. He really goes above and beyond.

              He's not afraid to each cutting edge stuff that the big boys typically don't want new marketers to know about. He's not threatened that someone will "steal" his niche, or learn his methods for success.

              When I've had problems installing software, all I have to do is shoot him an e-mail and he will get together with me on Skype and go in and check out what the problem is.

              He will recommend products IF he has tested them, uses them himself and they have shown that they can make a real difference in terms of productivity and efficiency. He doesn't push anything on anyone.

              I am making real headway in IM, and I owe everything to my coach. I'm not a kid, and he is very patient and understanding with people new to IM. He is an awesome person, and the epitome of a REAL coach.

              And no, I don't empty out my wallet for his coaching, either. He believes in paying it forward, as he had a mentor who helped him get started in IM. Good karma pays off in spades, people.
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              • Profile picture of the author iamchrisgreen
                Originally Posted by norje View Post

                I think a real coach praises your successes, but also calls you out on your mistakes as well. I am fortunate enough to still work with a coach who has given me so much of his time, energy and resources. He really goes above and beyond.

                He's not afraid to each cutting edge stuff that the big boys typically don't want new marketers to know about. He's not threatened that someone will "steal" his niche, or learn his methods for success.

                When I've had problems installing software, all I have to do is shoot him an e-mail and he will get together with me on Skype and go in and check out what the problem is.

                He will recommend products IF he has tested them, uses them himself and they have shown that they can make a real difference in terms of productivity and efficiency. He doesn't push anything on anyone.

                I am making real headway in IM, and I owe everything to my coach. I'm not a kid, and he is very patient and understanding with people new to IM. He is an awesome person, and the epitome of a REAL coach.

                And no, I don't empty out my wallet for his coaching, either. He believes in paying it forward, as he had a mentor who helped him get started in IM. Good karma pays off in spades, people.
                Is this person on the Warrior Forum ??
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        • Profile picture of the author wbeil48
          What constitutes a "good" coach? In my mind that would be someone who is a master at motivating other people. Not a manipulator, mind you, but a motivator who understands psychology and the workings of the subconscious mind. We are often our own worst enemy because we allow ourselves to fall victim to big-time procrastination and most of us do not have the encouragement from our non-IM friends and family members to stick it out for as long as it takes to be successful in this business.

          Let's face it, online marketing is a tough business to be in and it is neigh well impossible to make a full-time income at this unless you are highly motivated and optimistic.

          I think the following quote pretty much sums up what I'm trying to say here:

          “Explain to people that everything they say is an affirmation. Everything they think is an affirmation. Everything! What you want to do is to get control of what you are saying and thinking, so these things bring you good experiences in life rather than rotten experiences.” -Louise Hay (American author and founder of the publishing company ‘Hay House’)



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  • Profile picture of the author Gary Pettit
    A real Coach is the one who will criticize and will not mind to tell you though it will hurt your feelings. He is the one who will bring you at the top of success because he has made you to be ready and brave to go in your filed of endeavor.
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  • Profile picture of the author Barry Unruh
    The best coach I ever had was a combination of both. He was there with me physically and showed me the ropes in the job I was currently being trained to do.

    He was very adept at pointing out my weaknesses and strengths. He actually sat down with me over a pitcher of beer one evening and went down an entire list of my strengths and weaknesses and how I should be working to overcome the weaknesses and to leverage the strengths.

    One of the saddest days I can remember was when he took a position at another company at many times his current pay. He was a mentor, coach, and friend, not just to me but to half a dozen other people he had coached from being common labor to being in management, sales, and supervisory positions. A very unique and talented man.
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  • Profile picture of the author ernestlohan
    The real coach for me is the one who will really teach you everything you should know. Phil Jackson is a great coach for me.
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    • Profile picture of the author mypctechs
      Our current business coach has won numerous national awards. At first we thought his rate was out of our league, but we managed to scrape together enough money for two months of coaching. Needless to say, he's been our coach for five months now, not just two.

      In his first two months, he managed to lean us towards an income opportunity that brought us two times his coaching fee each month. Since then, he's helped us structure our businesses in a way that, through his input alone, has nearly doubled our income.

      I could tell he was going to do special things for us after the first 1 1/2 hours we spent talking. It was the type of conversation that my wife and I walked away from with a full WEEK of things to think about. I think that's the feeling everyone should have when they leave a coaching session with a GOOD coach. You should have invested a small amount of time but your growth potential mentally will be off the charts.
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  • Profile picture of the author ggconsulting
    Certainly the best approach is a coach who is structured and has plenty of strategies in their toolbox from which you can use. You must do the work yourself to build motivation, momenturm and goal seeking and achievement.


    Cheers


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  • Profile picture of the author Mac Deyak
    Simple steps to great coaching

    Helping the client find what they want to achieve (i.e. Goal Setting)
    Finding a plan of how to achieve it
    Holding them accountable for achieving their goal

    It's funny how people perform 1000x better if they know they are being 'judged' or someone is actually going to bust their balls (pardon the language) if they choose to take no action and get nowhere...

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  • Profile picture of the author Johstin
    YOU NEED BOTH. I would want my coach to have both characteristics. The best do. Having just one makes you good but having both makes you great.
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  • Profile picture of the author VenusCow
    I'll tell you what a real lifecoach is. Someone who has managed to completely reinvent themselves, rid themselves of their past and mastered life and happiness.
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  • Profile picture of the author sim4
    A true coach get us to produce the best he or she sees in us. Non of us that truly desire success can do without a coach. When you see one you will recognise because they come in different shape and sizes.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kenster
    I agree with the general consensus here...


    A good coach is somebody who knows the material but is also a good teacher. Some people are naturally just not good teachers. Good teachers know how to break processes and concepts into individual steps and then communicate those steps in a logical order that when put together, makes sense. This is a very tough skill.

    If you are taught by a very experienced person with no coaching skills, you will get very little out of the experience.

    If you are taught by somebody who doesnt know anything but is a good coach, you will get very little out of the experience.


    Find somebody that has a good foundation or knowledge combined with a good foundation of how to teach.

    -Ken
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  • Profile picture of the author PeterDunin
    I think the most important thing in a coach is someone that can talk to you on your level and in a way that you can inderstand,mine personally is my brother so Im very lucky.
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    • Profile picture of the author wbeil48
      Originally Posted by PeterDunin View Post

      I think the most important thing in a coach is someone that can talk to you on your level and in a way that you can inderstand,mine personally is my brother so Im very lucky.
      Does your brother have a lot of IM experience? The reason I'm asking is I'm kinda looking around for a good mentor that won't charge me an arm and a leg and who will take a personal interest in me. Hard to find.
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  • Profile picture of the author jmiezejeski
    As a certified professional coach, I received my training from the Institute for Professional Excellece in Coaching (IPEC) which is accredited by the International Coach Federation.

    So, I would consider myself a REAL coach. But aside from that, I would like to answer your question as stated: In answer to 1) Here, you are describing a mentor, not a coach. A mentor is someone who has been there, done that, and someone who can show you the steps you need to take based on their knowledge and experience, someone who you can follow to achieve something in the same way as they have. In answer to 2) Here, you are closer to the real definition, but coaches focus on solutions to present challenges and help clients decide what they are willing to do to get where they want to be tomorrow. The client does all the work, the coach guides the client along the way.

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    • Profile picture of the author itzpaul
      I think I'm a great coach. However, there are some things I don't know much of.

      People who know more then me, I'd rather pick their brain. But if someone knows a lot less than me then I'm more then happy to help tell them what I know.
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      • Profile picture of the author wbeil48
        Originally Posted by itzpaul View Post

        I think I'm a great coach. However, there are some things I don't know much of.

        People who know more then me, I'd rather pick their brain. But if someone knows a lot less than me then I'm more then happy to help tell them what I know.

        Just really curious here...exactly what do you know? What is your area of expertise?
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  • Profile picture of the author soependi
    mentor, people who make changes to other people lives
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  • Profile picture of the author sweety4
    I think we can make coach for self. If this will happen then we can always do write things in life.
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