Why People Don't Believe in the Law of Attraction

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1 - It's too "New Age".

Some people don't want to sound "New Age." I don't know what that means, nor do I care. I'd much rather attract what I desire by choosing my thoughts and feelings.

2 - The "R" Word

Accepting the fact that you create your life means taking full responsibility for your thoughts, feeling and every result.

This is a tough pill too swallow. It's a sobering experience to think that whatever that you are the root cause of all failure, suffering and heartache. This does NOT mean you consciously chose these circumstances. You didn't seek out sickness, bankruptcy, etc. You did cause them on a subconscious level. Tough, I know. Until I accepted responsibility for my thoughts, feelings and results I was bound by whatever circumstances I blamed.

3 - LOA people sound like nut jobs.

I thought the same thing for quite a while. Then I realized that whatever you resist is telling you something. There's some shred of truth within the concept which is begging you to learn more about it.

Most are skeptical about the LOA because it's a science of the invisible. It can't be proven. Truth be told, it can't be proven. Even though quantum physics has made amazing strides nobody can prove the law of attraction. I've studied people who believed in the LOA. Most were happy, healthy and wealthy. The skeptics were generally unhappy people. That's because they spend a great deal of time fighting against something. Happy people are for things they support, unhappy people fight things which they're against.

4 - It's too simple; it makes the LOA seem like a lazy person's excuse for not moving into action.

The Secret gets so much flack for this. Maybe I was watching a different movie but I remember the speakers mentioning phrases like "inspired action", "prosperous ideas", etc.

I hate to break it to you but it does become that easy when you learn to do things like meditate, affirm your life's goals and visualize on a daily basis. You attract things with less physical effort.

Everything is a form of energy. When one energy is in alignment with another form of energy, they meet. People usually have to move into action to receive what they want but make no mistake about it, you are attracting that thing. It comes to you. You might attract inspirational ideas, people, etc but EVERYTHING comes to you. You are a thing magnet.

So yes, action is required but most people make the mistake of spending their entire life acting and doing little attracting. They never meditate, visualize of perform affirmation and slave away their craft or worse, a job which they despise. Which of course attracts more hard work until they made a decision to pull back and use their mental tools to attract what they wand and move into inspired action to receive it.

What are your thoughts on the law of attraction?
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  • Profile picture of the author Mr. Subtle
    Originally Posted by ryanbiddulph View Post

    Most are skeptical about the LOA because it’s a science of the invisible. It can’t be proven. Truth be told, it can’t be proven.
    That's why the alleged "law" of attraction is pseudoscience.

    Originally Posted by ryanbiddulph View Post

    Even though quantum physics has made amazing strides nobody can prove the law of attraction.
    Noted physicist Laurence Krauss talked about "How to spot quatum quackery" (aka "The Secret") a few days ago:

    Cosmic Log - How to spot quantum quackery

    Lawrence Krauss: I think it's probably one of the most abused concepts in physics among the public. You should be wary whenever you hear something like, "Quantum mechanics connects you with the universe" ... or "quantum mechanics unifies you with everything else." You can begin to be skeptical that the speaker is somehow trying to use quantum mechanics to argue fundamentally that you can change the world by thinking about it.

    There goes Krauss using the word skeptical that the OP doesn't care for.
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    • Profile picture of the author jasdon
      Originally Posted by Mr. Subtle View Post

      That's why the alleged "law" of attraction is pseudoscience.



      Noted physicist Laurence Krauss talked about "How to spot quatum quackery" (aka "The Secret") a few days ago:

      Cosmic Log - How to spot quantum quackery

      Lawrence Krauss: I think it's probably one of the most abused concepts in physics among the public. You should be wary whenever you hear something like, "Quantum mechanics connects you with the universe" ... or "quantum mechanics unifies you with everything else." You can begin to be skeptical that the speaker is somehow trying to use quantum mechanics to argue fundamentally that you can change the world by thinking about it.

      There goes Krauss using the word skeptical that the OP doesn't care for.
      I don't think that we know anywhere near as much about the relationship between the LoA and quantum physics - if there is one - so I don't refer to it in my reasoning.

      To me, the basic nuts and bolts of the LoA are this;

      Decide and define what you want; your goal.
      Believe unwaveringly that you can get it* - (Black Magick - "blessed is he who believes yet has not seen).
      Take appropriate action towards your goal.
      Don't give up until it's yours.

      Now, if anyone can argue that this doesn't work, then they're really not worth listening to.

      If you define the LoA in this way and not clouding the issue with QP or just focusing on the 'thought' part of the process, then it proves that the system works. As with most things that split opinion, the issue needs to be clearly defined otherwise arguments for or against go on forever.

      * This part is key - if you can't believe your goal is attainable, you're just kidding yourself.
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    • Profile picture of the author LoACoach
      Originally Posted by Mr. Subtle View Post

      That's why the alleged "law" of attraction is pseudoscience.



      Noted physicist Laurence Krauss talked about "How to spot quatum quackery" (aka "The Secret") a few days ago:

      Cosmic Log - How to spot quantum quackery

      Lawrence Krauss: I think it's probably one of the most abused concepts in physics among the public. You should be wary whenever you hear something like, "Quantum mechanics connects you with the universe" ... or "quantum mechanics unifies you with everything else." You can begin to be skeptical that the speaker is somehow trying to use quantum mechanics to argue fundamentally that you can change the world by thinking about it.

      There goes Krauss using the word skeptical that the OP doesn't care for.

      What so many people fail to understand is that, yes, you can change yourself and your life by changing your thoughts, but ONLY if those new thoughts lead you to new action! That's how the Law of Attraction works. Its not magic and its not pseudoscience. All actions start with a thought. Mediocre actions start with mediocre thoughts. Grand actions start with grand thoughts. Its your choice.

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  • Profile picture of the author Smyth Danielson
    They think it's too touchy feely...it's all very real though. It's obvious.


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  • Profile picture of the author dwave
    I think it's more of a: Oh I really do control my life now fear kicks in. It's simpler to live the normal life. When folks find out they control there lives then it means everything they have done in the past is there fault. It's all on me now.

    P.S I love having control over my life. Thanks God.
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  • Profile picture of the author skorpion
    I believe in it. I can attract some crazy stuff if I honestly believe in it. I'm getting to the point where I cant even tell a white lie because it will come true...

    "I'm late because my truck broke down..." Then I get a flat tire that day or the next.

    When I had a day job, I told my boss I was home sick because "my sump pump" stopped working and my basement was flooded. Guess what happend 3 days later?

    Coincidence? Not sure...lol

    I also find if I write down a specific amount of money I want to earn for the week or month (within believable reason) I get really close.
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  • Profile picture of the author RioNomad
    The first time I watched The Secret I thought it was really stupid. However, the second time I saw it it really clicked. I would not consider myself one of those people who believes I can manifest $100,000 just by thinking about it, but I 100% believe the more positive I am and the more I think about something I am working on the more great ideas I have and the more opportunities I see. And not just by a little bit, I will literally have great idea after great idea and they just keep flowing.
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  • Profile picture of the author ucajack
    I think most of the people are internally programmed in such a way that they tend to believe in negative outcomes more than positive outcomes.
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
    Good Feedback here!

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    • Profile picture of the author eye
      I am sure there are people who don't believe in Law of Gravitation!
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      • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
        Originally Posted by eye View Post

        I am sure there are people who don't believe in Law of Gravitation!
        This argument comes up a lot. Many can't grasp the concept of an invisible force holding everything down, yet it exists. I like the parallel.

        I tend to agree with a school of thought which holds me responsible for my thoughts. It's freeing.

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  • Profile picture of the author Dean Jackson
    The Law of Attraction is real folks...

    The major problem people have in "attracting" things to them is that they come from a place of want.

    If you "want" something, you are going to attract more "want". This type of thinking is from a lack of appreciation.

    However, if you thought, acted and came from a position of "I have abundance", than hallelujah!

    I can see this much more with my own marketing of course. I'm so used to having more money than I can spend ( not bragging, just making my point). However, when I first started, I wasn't able to afford even the things I needed. That goes back into my first point.

    Confusing, I know. But if you're a sceptic maybe you should research into recent discoveries about vibrational frequencies and the power of thought.

    Theres whole other world than what we're currently unaware of.

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  • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
    Originally Posted by Black Magick View Post

    People have to understand, The Law Of Attraction controls virtually everything. Since humans are the only species on earth that can control thoughts, we can control our lives. LOA has everything to do with the way your brain functions and it's connection to the Universe. As the great Napoleon Hill said, "thoughts are things." Thomas Edison said this and Albert Einstein said it. I'm not gonna get into detail about everything they said, but they verified that the thoughts are things and how the process works. I don't think any naysayer can argue with Edison and Einstein.....
    I agree with that J.D., I trust Einstein, Edison and the world changers over skeptics. Before taking the advice trust the source.

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  • Profile picture of the author CatherineC
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    The Law of Attraction, the Secret, Napolean Hill, etc, get the symptom right but misdiagnose the cause.

    In reality good things happen to people who remain positive in their outlook and mental attitude because those people tend to seize oppurtunites, drive harder within those oppurtunities, and eventually bend the outcome to their will...a self-fulfilling prophecy.

    It isn't god, space dust, magic, thoughts coming back as energy, or anything else supernatural or otherwise. The success you achieve in life from having a positive view is simply a result of your own perseverance towards your goals when others either quit, or allow negative fears, doubt, or otherwise, to derail them prematurely.

    Thoughts are not "things". They are your agenda, your table of contents, your personal roadmap and guide for how you behave, react, and determine your path each second. Man struggles to accept an existance that is no more guided, predetermined, or destined, than that of a microbe. Thus he manufactures "purpose" "the reason we exist" "whole other universes affecting this one and my reality".

    Actually you affect your reality, no one else, in this dimension or otherwise.

    If you're negative, your agenda will be negative, whether you know it or not. If you remain positive, even under great stress or pain, eventually you will get back to a good place no matter how long it takes.

    And that's good enough for me. Today is a GREAT day!
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  • Profile picture of the author theory expert
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    The reason people don't believe in LOA is because it is not tangible. Also, each person has something that hits home to them and no matter how much you want for someone else if they do not connect to it they will follow what works for them or doesn't work for them until they find what their looking for.

    "Just do it" is a solid mantra to me. Here is a LaLannism, "people complain about the things they don't have instead of just getting them".
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  • Profile picture of the author Mr. Subtle
    Originally Posted by Black Magick View Post

    LOA has everything to do with the way your brain functions and it's connection to the Universe.
    WARNING: Oh no here we go again...

    Lawrence Krauss: I think it's probably one of the most abused concepts in physics among the public. You should be wary whenever you hear something like, "Quantum mechanics connects you with the universe" ... or "quantum mechanics unifies you with everything else." You can begin to be skeptical that the speaker is somehow trying to use quantum mechanics to argue fundamentally that you can change the world by thinking about it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mr. Subtle
      Originally Posted by Black Magick View Post

      Dude, get a life...seriously. Life as a troll can't be a very happy one.
      Troll? So, if someone disagrees with one of your posts they are a troll. I get it. BWAAhahahaaha

      Oh, thanks for walking into that post the way you did. I could never have planned it any better if I tried.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tommy Perez
    It's funny how many people out there actually walk around hoping that the law of attraction will manifest itself...without the need to take action, risks or put themselves on the line and in uncomfortable positions.

    The law of attraction is an awesome case of great marketing...by selling a concept to people that they could achieve great things by doing absolutely nothing.

    I mean, that's like a dream come true to most people!

    But as we know here...taking physical action is critical...no matter how many times we should fail - because it's through failure and how we rise up through failure that ultimately brings the biggest success in life.
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  • Profile picture of the author Barry Unruh
    I am curious how many people actually play with the Law of Attraction with an open mind?

    Stop and take a look at your own life. How often do you go out walking through a mall with your significant other, and start imagining how good it would taste to drop in and have a pizza? Then as you continue walking along they look over at you and say "Are you hungry, pizza sounds really good."

    Simple items like this happen to me all the time, and most of the time with intention. If my mind and spirit is feeling certain I want something it is highly common to have someone else suggest it. If my mind is only "kind of interested" it is very uncommon for them to suggest it.

    Now, to take this to the next logical step, though. How much more often would it happen if I just took the simple little step and suggest it myself?

    That is the difference of LOA in easily understandable terms. You can wish for it half-heartedly and it probably won't happen. You can set your mind and spirit you want it, can taste it, feel it, and are waiting for it, and it will probably happen. You can take inspired action, and it will happen.

    I'm not going to worry about Quantum Physics, I'm just going to keep proceeding down the path of getting what I want and enjoying it.
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  • Profile picture of the author fayehines
    After just a month of owning the Law of Attraction Book I threw it away because I don't believe in a lot information presented in the book and DVD. I do believe that thoughts can help our successes but faith without works is dead and some things can't be imagined away. I wish I could imagine hard times away but challenges will always come here and then.
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  • Profile picture of the author USGTMauthor
    Visualization, and planning are not what the supposed LOA teacher teach. These are valuable. What is not valuable is the LOA idea you get what you think about. It obviously is not true, nor can it be proven. Sick kids did not think about sickness, nor do starving people think about starving, they think about food. Please visualize success, plan, act and analyze the feedback you get to hone your plans and actions. Time spent on the LOA is wasted time that could be used to do something.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sean Fry
      People don't believe in the "law of attraction" because...there is no "law" of attraction. It's pseudoscience. It's quackery. In other words, intelligent, rational thinking individuals don't need to believe in the silly tripe. Those who are gullible and desperate and who lack critical thinking skills tend to believe in it. Fortunately for the charlatans hustling the LOA, there's plenty of those individuals to pitch to.

      The incessant citations of "quantum physics" and such are patently absurd, because those well versed in the field will be the first to say that there is no "law" of attraction, certainly not the "law" hustled by opportunistic vultures like the kind seen in The Secret.

      Do any of you "believers" ever bother to do any research on...anything?

      Start here.
      Oprah Winfrey, New Thought, "The Secret" and the "New Alchemy"

      That's 5 pages of in depth history of how this wackjob movement started.

      Also here:
      New Thought (aka Mind Cure or Mind Science) movement

      Then go here:
      James Arthur Ray - 2 die at Arizona retreat's sweat lodge
      The Secret (a movie)
      The author of The Secret is baaaaaaaaaaaack!
      David Schirmer Exposed
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      • Profile picture of the author williamrs
        Originally Posted by snowtiger View Post

        People don't believe in the "law of attraction" because...there is no "law" of attraction. It's pseudoscience. It's quackery. In other words, intelligent, rational thinking individuals don't need to believe in the silly tripe. Those who are gullible and desperate and who lack critical thinking skills tend to believe in it. Fortunately for the charlatans hustling the LOA, there's plenty of those individuals to pitch to.

        The incessant citations of "quantum physics" and such are patently absurd, because those well versed in the field will be the first to say that there is no "law" of attraction, certainly not the "law" hustled by opportunistic vultures like the kind seen in The Secret.

        Do any of you "believers" ever bother to do any research on...anything?

        Start here.
        Oprah Winfrey, New Thought, "The Secret" and the "New Alchemy"

        That's 5 pages of in depth history of how this wackjob movement started.

        Also here:
        New Thought (aka Mind Cure or Mind Science) movement

        Then go here:
        James Arthur Ray - 2 die at Arizona retreat's sweat lodge
        The Secret (a movie)
        The author of The Secret is baaaaaaaaaaaack!
        David Schirmer Exposed
        I agree 100%.

        The guys who created/spread the word about the LOA had already created another documentary about quantum physics (What the Bleep Do We Know?) that's a lot of BS. Anyone who knows a bit about this subject (this is one of my hobbies ) can say that everything in that documentary is BS.

        However, I do believe that those guys know a rule that most people don't. Tell people what they want to hear and they will give you their hard earned money. This principle is real and I use it everyday with my campaigns. However, if applied to the scams this rule seems to be even more powerful. Convince a person that's possible to lose 10lbs in a week and they will pay for your product. Convince a person that's possible to become a millionaire overnight and they will buy your crap ebook. The LOA is just one more scam.

        I'm not saying that thoughts are not important, but I'm saying that thoughts alone are just thoughts. Things happen when we turn thoughts into actions. If you don't believe that you can make money online you will never make money online, because you won't try. However, if you believe you are likely to try several times and eventually succeed.

        Today I'm a successful full-time internet marketer and I got to this level by turning thoughts into actions. I'm an action taker, not a dreamer who sits down in fornt of the computer and thinks that money will come just because I have positive thoughts.

        Think once and act twice. This is my philosophy.


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        • Profile picture of the author Mr. Subtle
          Originally Posted by williamrs View Post

          The guys who created/spread the word about the LOA had already created another documentary about quantum physics (What the Bleep Do We Know?) that's a lot of BS. Anyone who knows a bit about this subject (this is one of my hobbies ) can say that everything in that documentary is BS.
          Thanks for the reminder about the Bleep film. You're right about the misuse of quantum physics in it. Nobel laureate (physicist) Murray Gell-Mann called this misuse and abuse of quantum physics as "quantum flapdoodle."

          In the film, quantum physicist Amit Goswami says: "The material world around us is nothing but possible movements of consciousness. I am choosing moment by moment my experience. Heisenberg said atoms are not things, only tendences."

          Dr. Michael Shermer publicly challenged Dr. Goswami (in his Scientific American column) to leap out of a 20-story building and consciously choose the experience of passing safely through the ground's tendencies. So far Dr. Goswami hasn't taken him up on the challenge.

          Any Deepak Chopra fans? Quantum flapdoodle infuses this New Age guru too. Remember his "quantum theory" that aging is all in the mind? Well, he seems to be aging like everyone else.
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          • Profile picture of the author USGTMauthor
            There is always a market for "something for nothing" Make money in your sleep, loose weight without trying etc. This will be around as long as man is around
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          • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
            Originally Posted by Mr. Subtle View Post

            Thanks for the reminder about the Bleep film. You're right about the misuse of quantum physics in it. Nobel laureate (physicist) Murray Gell-Mann called this misuse and abuse of quantum physics as "quantum flapdoodle."

            In the film, quantum physicist Amit Goswami says: "The material world around us is nothing but possible movements of consciousness. I am choosing moment by moment my experience. Heisenberg said atoms are not things, only tendences."

            Dr. Michael Shermer publicly challenged Dr. Goswami (in his Scientific American column) to leap out of a 20-story building and consciously choose the experience of passing safely through the ground's tendencies. So far Dr. Goswami hasn't taken him up on the challenge.

            Any Deepak Chopra fans? Quantum flapdoodle infuses this New Age guru too. Remember his "quantum theory" that aging is all in the mind? Well, he seems to be aging like everyone else.
            Mr Subtle, you are busy disproving the law of attraction, primarily with people's opinions who I've never heard. That's cool. The question remains, what are you FOR? When you are FOR something, instead of deeply AGAINST something, you will be a more fulfilled person and will spend less time fighting and debating, more time SUPPORTING.

            Note the capitalized words. Feel them, act on them and according to the law of attraction you attract whatever is needed to embody the word, to make it come alive in your being

            Have a good one dude!

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        • Profile picture of the author jasdon
          Originally Posted by williamrs View Post

          I agree 100%.

          The guys who created/spread the word about the LOA had already created another documentary about quantum physics
          (What the Bleep Do We Know?) that's a lot of BS. Anyone who knows a bit about this subject (this is one of my hobbies ) can say that everything in that documentary is BS.

          However, I do believe that those guys know a rule that most people don't. Tell people what they want to hear and they will give you their hard earned money. This principle is real and I use it everyday with my campaigns. However, if applied to the scams this rule seems to be even more powerful. Convince a person that's possible to lose 10lbs in a week and they will pay for your product. Convince a person that's possible to become a millionaire overnight and they will buy your crap ebook. The LOA is just one more scam.

          I'm not saying that thoughts are not important, but I'm saying that thoughts alone are just thoughts. Things happen when we turn thoughts into actions. If you don't believe that you can make money online you will never make money online, because you won't try. However, if you believe you are likely to try several times and eventually succeed.

          Today I'm a successful full-time internet marketer and I got to this level by turning thoughts into actions. I'm an action taker, not a dreamer who sits down in fornt of the computer and thinks that money will come just because I have positive thoughts.

          Think once and act twice. This is my philosophy.


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          The guys who created the LoA? Who spread the word about it? I assume this is a new hobby of yours?
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          • Profile picture of the author williamrs
            Originally Posted by jasdon View Post

            The guys who created the LoA? Who spread the word about it? I assume this is a new hobby of yours?
            I know that the LoA is not something new, people talk about it since 150 years ago or even more. But it got really popular in 21st century with the documentary "The Secret". So the guys who "spread the word about it" are Rusty G. Parrish, John Demartini and several others who worked on this documentary. You can find more names (including some famous guys) here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Secret_(2006_film).

            The secret that those guys used to make millions is the same that I used to go from a video editor earning $300/month to a full-time internet marketer making $500+/day at the age of 18. It's not about thinking and waiting until the Universe provides what you want, it's about giving people what they want. People love to believe in things that make them feel comfortable, so religions and things like the LoA are great opportunities to bank millions of dollars.


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  • Profile picture of the author tedflg
    Originally Posted by Black Magick View Post

    Another problem is that when people think of The Law Of Attraction, they immediately think of The Secret. Understand that The Secret left out a lot of key information in between, so that's not the best source to listen to when learning about The Law Of Attraction. There are very few books on the market that actually teaches how it really works, and The Secret isn't one of them.
    Ok...now I'm at least curious - what are the "few books" that actually teach how it works?
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  • Profile picture of the author Enrico
    I believe in it, it continues to work for me and that's all that counts.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sean Fry
    I believe visualization works....but it works because it gives the brain specific direction, and our brains are highly, highly efficient at solving problems and finding solutions when given direction. And one of the best ways to give it direction, is through repetitive visualization.

    And THAT is what really rides me about the LOA. They are misattributing the known benefits of visualization to a made up "law," to a "mysterious force in the universe" and by doing so, they enter into murky, almost "occult" territory, which allows individuals to be exploited and even brainwashed, very much as in a cult.

    The biggest charlatans of this movement are probably Jerry and Esther Hicks.
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  • Profile picture of the author fxprofitmountain
    There are two issues here:

    The scientific investigations into visualization. This is the realm of psychology and neuroscience.

    The spiritual belief that you create your own reality via your thoughts. This is not unique to Jerry and Esther or the LOA, but is a somewhat older idea, with roots in Eastern religions.
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  • Profile picture of the author fxprofitmountain
    A person's belief in LOA will probably depend upon whether they approach this issue from the scientific or the spiritual point of view.

    The evidence and anecdotes a person uses in formulating an opinion will probably depend on whether that person comes from the scientific or spiritual point of view.
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Ho
    IMO, the secret and the LOA is just a prime example of marketing at its best.. we should learn how they marketed such an age old idea into a product so successfully.. this goes to show sometimes it's not about how good the product is.. it's how you sell it.
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  • Profile picture of the author jasdon
    William, the trouble with The Secret is that there was far too much emphasis on just one section of the LoA - that which says you get what you focus on. I don't know of anyone teaching the LoA who just focuses on that one point.

    As for it only getting popular after The Secret - Think and Grow Rich has sold millions of copies over the last 70 years - Pyshco-Cybernetics has sold over 30 million copies over the past 40 years. It's been pretty popular for a while now.
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
    A great discussion here guys.

    Never dismiss the concept of one energy or "One"-ness. That principle of the LOA is the most powerful. We are all connected. I see some emotionally-charged posts - my included - which are coming right back to the server in some way, shape or form. Our ego may fight this idea, it might criticize, try to debunk, etc but you are simply creating your reality with these ideas.

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  • Profile picture of the author Sean Fry
    Ideas do not create "reality." Only action.
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    • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
      Originally Posted by snowtiger View Post

      Ideas do not create "reality." Only action.
      By thought, what you want is brought to you. By acting, you receive it.

      This is why some people have to kill themselves to acquire things and others seem to be "lucky" or "things come to them easily." When they do work, they are light about their work. Their attractive magnet is strong and have to engage in less action than the person who doesn't choose their thoughts and feelings carefully.

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  • Profile picture of the author Richnana
    The really hard part is accepting that you are responsible for your present situation. Accepting that fact takes a lot of courage. It seems a lot easier to blame your mother or father, your birthplace, the color of your skin, the company... almost anything but yourself.

    But once, you can drill down to the core of who you really are and what you really think about yourself, then you can let go of those negative impressions and feeling. You have to let go of the fear of failing (again). When you understand that you have the power to change then you can accept the obvious fact that you do attract what is in your life, whether it is good, bad or glorious.
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  • Profile picture of the author dwave
    I have a really easy way to determine the truth on LOA. Just look at your bank account. LOL

    I understand there are folks that are just beginning to see the other side and they may still be financially strapped. To those folks keep moving you will get there very soon. But to folks that don't believe you will see how long your relationships, and bank accounts stay empty.

    The good thing about this world. There is no wrong or right. Just a smoother path.
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    • Profile picture of the author williamrs
      Originally Posted by dwave View Post

      I have a really easy way to determine the truth on LOA. Just look at your bank account. LOL

      I understand there are folks that are just beginning to see the other side and they may still be financially strapped. To those folks keep moving you will get there very soon. But to folks that don't believe you will see how long your relationships, and bank accounts stay empty.

      The good thing about this world. There is no wrong or right. Just a smoother path.
      I'm aware that this is a pretty old discussion and it's obvious that we won't reach common sense here. I think that the LoA is BS, other guys agree with me and most people don't. It's ok.

      However, following your advice I feel even more confident that I'm on the right side. I'm a successful internet marketer today and I feel proud when I look at my bank account.

      I got to this level by considering the LoA BS (BS that sells and makes many people rich, but still BS), so I'll keep doing this and growing my business more and more each and every year.


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      • Profile picture of the author jasdon
        Originally Posted by williamrs View Post

        I'm aware that this is a pretty old discussion and it's obvious that we won't reach common sense here. I think that the LoA is BS, other guys agree with me and most people don't. It's ok.

        However, following your advice I feel even more confident that I'm on the right side. I'm a successful internet marketer today and I feel proud when I look at my bank account.

        I got to this level by considering the LoA BS (BS that sells and makes many people rich, but still BS), so I'll keep doing this and growing my business more and more each and every year.


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        Which of these do you not do then?

        Mentally picture what you want.
        Set a goal.
        Believe you can achieve that goal.
        Plan how to get it.
        Work confidently toward your goal.
        Keep going until you achieve it.
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        • Profile picture of the author williamrs
          Originally Posted by jasdon View Post

          Which of these do you not do then?

          Mentally picture what you want.
          Set a goal.
          Believe you can achieve that goal.
          Plan how to get it.
          Work confidently toward your goal.
          Keep going until you achieve it.
          I think that you haven't read my previous posts on this thread, so, please, do it.

          I clearly said that I consider thoughts important. You can't do nothing without thinking (obviously). However, the thing that separates me from the LoA is that I'm an action taker. You can think 1,000 times, but if I take action once I'll beat you. Simple.

          The "Law of Attraction" defends that thoughts attract real things (they talk about quantum physics and other things that real physicists have considered BS and distortion of the real sceince), while I defend that thoughts attract NOTHING. Thoughts are great when we turn them into action, but if we just think expecting that our thoughts will "attract" something, then we are just dreamers who will never get real, solid results.

          It's possible to make money online, and lot's of it, but only if you take action. You can spend your whole life thinking if you want, but money will come only when you start doing something. Think about building a site and you will get nothing, build a site and you can make money.


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      • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
        I'm aware that this is a pretty old discussion and it's obvious that we won't reach common sense here.

        You make a great point William.

        Old discussions have a tendency to create this environment, don't they It's an interesting study in psychology.

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  • Profile picture of the author James12C
    It's the responsibility thing - it's a tough call. But Esther / Jerry Hicks / Abraham talk a LOT of sense.

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    • Profile picture of the author Ian Jackson
      It's real ok, and as one poster said it's been around since the dawn of time. That's incorrect (sort of) . LOA just IS. It never hasn't existed... if you see what I mean?

      There are many, but two excellent books explain how to use it:
      Wallace D Wattles' Science-Getting-Rich, and the hardback edition of The Master Key System by Charles F Haanel, which is better purchased from the UK publishers, R & W Heap in the UK.

      A bit like religion, it's one of those touchy private/individual subjects that one cannot - indeed should not - force onto anyone else, and people have to "discover" it for themselves. My Father "showed" it to me.
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      • Profile picture of the author USGTMauthor
        Originally Posted by Ian Jackson View Post

        It's real ok, and as one poster said it's been around since the dawn of time. That's incorrect (sort of) . LOA just IS. It never hasn't existed... if you see what I mean?

        There are many, but two excellent books explain how to use it:
        Wallace D Wattles' Science-Getting-Rich, and the hardback edition of The Master Key System by Charles F Haanel, which is better purchased from the UK publishers, R & W Heap in the UK.

        A bit like religion, it's one of those touchy private/individual subjects that one cannot - indeed should not - force onto anyone else, and people have to "discover" it for themselves. My Father "showed" it to me.
        In my opinion these books are about action not attraction. The word attraction never appears in the SOGR, the word action is in there over 50 times. It is the action that makes it happen.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sean Fry
      Originally Posted by James12C View Post

      It's the responsibility thing - it's a tough call. But Esther / Jerry Hicks / Abraham talk a LOT of sense.

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      No, they do not. "Channeling" is a sham. Looks like you fell for it, hook line and sinker. If you can be made to believe in their "channeling," you can be made to believe anything.

      Jerry is a former Amway distributor and simply saw an exploding market to capitalize on.
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  • Profile picture of the author paulie888
    I feel that The Law of Attraction has received a lot of bad press because there was just too much emphasis on 'dreaming' and having a vision, and too little emphasis on action and actual implementation. In other words, there is a lot of 'feel good' material, but it doesn't really alert the viewer to the fact that there is usually some hard work involved that stretches you beyond your normal comfort zone. This is something many people just want to ignore, but this is the true reality of things when implementing the LOA - perhaps the creators of 'The Secret' glossed over this because this would have probably cost them some sales and popularity.
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
    There's been some talk of that Paulie. They did speak of moving into inspired action, but the focus was on mental science.....which is exactly where it should be We live in a world of panicked, chaotic action with little thinking which is the recipe for a panicked, chaotic life. Naturally, the backlash is to be expected because The Secret and the basic premise of the LOA challenges the majority's belied system when it comes to the acquisition of money, property or anything.

    Thanks for sharing your take and have a great day!

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  • Profile picture of the author jasdon
    William, can you tell me who ever said that the Law of Attraction didn't involve taking action? Where do you get that idea come from? Have you read a book that said the LoA doesn't involve taking action?

    The six points in my previous post are the basics of the LoA. If you're having the success you say, you must be using those steps. If not, then I'd be really interested to find out which one(s) you don't employ.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan Browne
      It works like this.

      Thoughts attract new thoughts. As you attract new thoughts, you attract new ways to take action.

      As you take action, you attract new thoughts. These thoughts attract other thoughts. You take action on those, and new thoughts arise. It keeps on expanding as you become more and more focused and your belief and experience grow.

      Look, I could show you exactly how thoughts can influence reality if I was there with you, but i'm not.

      I can make a cloud disappear with my mind. So could you. It's one of the easiest ways to prove to yourself that thoughts can change reality. You just focus on the cloud and will it to disappear and imagine it disappearing. You'll start to see thousands of "sparks" enter your field of vision as you do this and the cloud will start to disappear.

      No BS, it really will work.

      This isn't particularly useful but it seems to be one of those little things built into reality to allow you to see evidence of your thoughts influence on reality. My ex girlfriend claims to have witnessed someone move objects with her mind multiple times. I'm not sure what the limits are on this kind of thing but it is possible.

      Skeptics of the LOA who are successful in life, tend to do the exact process of manifestation without realizing it. The LOA is just one part of the process of manifestation. It is what leads you to action and pulls events together in what some people describe as "luck".

      Ever notice there's three kinds of success stories people tell? One is "I did this because I had the vision and the drive and I believed in myself", two is "God blessed me, I wouldn't have been able to do this without god", three is "I worked hard and had a lot of luck"
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  • Profile picture of the author John Durham
    People dont believe in the law of attraction because they dont recognize their own creations as being their own.

    The fact is you are constantly creating in every moment through thought, either deliberately, or in deliberately, which leads to perfect "miscreation"; miscreation is what most experience most frequently.

    They say "I didnt ask for this"... How could I have attracted it?

    However what we recieve is a mixture of all the different vibrations we send out on a subject not just our stated intentions.

    We tell the universal waiter "I want chicken soup", then we say "No I want rice soup" "No I really want chicken noodle soup..."... then we are surprised when we end up with chicken noodle rice soup and say "I didnt ask for that...".

    We , because we are surrounded by so many choices that we send out a mixture of distorted vibrations, many times recieve distorted circumstances in our lives, which usually represent "some" of what we originally wanted, but not "All" of it...

    The answer is to get clarity, and hold your vibe.
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  • Profile picture of the author mikey22
    Agree with the OP, it seems the LOA and the way it is portrayed in the Secret is that if you just think then everything with magically happen for you. Whereas you do need to take action consistently and that seems to be the problem that most people have trouble with.
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