The 5 Tibetan Rites - Fountain Of Youth Or Urban Legend?

by Tom E
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For those of you who haven't heard of the Five Tibetan Rites, it's a set of yoga-esque movements you perform every day, and according to the official book and other sources, it will keep you young and vital WAY beyond your years. According to the official book, people who have performed the Rites daily live to be 150 years and beyond, with physical appearances of 40-year olds.

I've tried doing them for a stretch of about 1 month, and I must say that it made me feel exceptionally healthy.

I'd love to hear from others who have been doing them for even longer than that - what are your results?
#fountain #legend #rites #tibetan #urban #youth
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  • Profile picture of the author ab4444
    I was unfamiliar with these. However, I did a search on google and came up with results of videos and articles.
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    • Profile picture of the author Loren Woirhaye
      They work. They are rooted in Nei Kung, the precursor science
      of Yoga and Chi Kung. There are things with the breath
      and with "bandas" (energy locks) that make them more
      powerful.

      If you spin too much some teachers say that causes
      imbalance. Be careful there.
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      • Profile picture of the author Tom E
        Originally Posted by Loren Woirhaye View Post

        They work. They are rooted in Nei Kung, the precursor science
        of Yoga and Chi Kung. There are things with the breath
        and with "bandas" (energy locks) that make them more
        powerful.

        If you spin too much some teachers say that causes
        imbalance. Be careful there.
        Thanks Loren, good to know. Are you doing the rites yourself, and if so, for how long have you been doing it? Are you up to the 21 reps yet?
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        • Profile picture of the author Loren Woirhaye
          I did them in my 20s for awhile. I moved on to a
          more advanced hatha yoga practice and eventually
          to Chi Kung. The effects are similar. The rites are
          effective and quick to do - I didn't find them satisfying
          as a complete practice so I went in other directions.

          Now - from what I've learned in Chi Kung I don't feel
          the rites are generally taught effectively. Sure, they
          work okay but if you want the master key to all
          this stuff you need to consistently work at perfection
          of Mula Banda, the root lock or conscious manipulation
          of chi energy by controlling the diaphragms of the
          pelvis. In particular the Chi Kung practice of Chi Belt
          sheds light on what exercises like the 5 rites are truly
          meant to do.
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          • Profile picture of the author Tom E
            Originally Posted by Loren Woirhaye View Post

            I did them in my 20s for awhile. I moved on to a
            more advanced hatha yoga practice and eventually
            to Chi Kung. The effects are similar. The rites are
            effective and quick to do - I didn't find them satisfying
            as a complete practice so I went in other directions.

            Now - from what I've learned in Chi Kung I don't feel
            the rites are generally taught effectively. Sure, they
            work okay but if you want the master key to all
            this stuff you need to consistently work at perfection
            of Mula Banda, the root lock or conscious manipulation
            of chi energy by controlling the diaphragms of the
            pelvis. In particular the Chi Kung practice of Chi Belt
            sheds light on what exercises like the 5 rites are truly
            meant to do.
            Thanks again Loren, I'm going to look into that!
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  • Profile picture of the author David Surk
    I plan to start doing the rites again my self. I'm in pretty bad shape right now due to health reasons. I did the rites daily for a few months about 2-3 years ago and they had a very noticeable impact.

    Much love,
    Dave.
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  • Profile picture of the author Roar
    I agree with Loren. I performed the rites when the book first came out some 15 years ago or so I believe. They do improve flexibility, energy and overall health if done daily.

    However there are more "advanced" chi kung & yoga exercises that provide more effective, "deeper" results. But, for a quick, easy to do set of exercises that do work, the 5 rites are a great resource.

    To your health,
    Robert
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  • Profile picture of the author tommyp
    There's also the 6th rite that tends to go unmentioned. <<edit: I was gonna say what it is but in case people want to find out on their own but I won't spoil it. Supposedly it's not very popular although I have no problem with it and I guess depending on your situatin you could still do it maybe not absolutely but in moderation>>

    Where can I find ebook about this?
    You can find it to buy (at least the updated ones) or the original for free somewhere if you search for it.

    I have one or two versions of it on my hard drive but I don't know whether or not it's okay to pass around. I think it's public domain but if it's altered that particular version becomes copyright of the person who altered it. I think what I have is an updated version I got.

    I'm almost sure the original is public domain. It's called The Eye of Revelation by Peter Kelder. If you have some patience you'll find it maybe at scribd.com or somewhere in search engine results.

    I think the updated one is called "Ancient Secret of the Fountain of Youth"

    Most of the book is in story form, supposedly true, of a Colonel Bradford who some say is/was actually a real guy from somewhere in the UK and then at certain parts it reveals what the rites are mixed in with the story.

    You'll find some interesting theories about the origins from reading comments at places like Amazon.com

    I don't really buy into it however that's not to say the exercises aren't beneficial.
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  • Profile picture of the author tommyp
    Here's the Foreword:

    Foreword

    This wonderfully simple little book is not for everyone.
    You should read it only if you can accept the preposterous
    notion that aging can be reversed. You should read it only
    if you dare believe that the "Fountain of Youth" does truly
    exist. If you stubbornly cling to the prevailing idea that
    such things are impossible, reading this book will be a
    waste of your time. If, on the other hand, you can accept
    that the "impossible" is really within your grasp, then
    you are in store for rewards in abundance.

    As far as I know, Peter Kelder's book is the only written
    source of the priceless information it reveals: five
    ancient Tibetan rites which hold the key to lasting youth,
    health, and vitality. For thousands of years these seemingly
    magical rites were shrouded in secrecy in remote
    Himalayan monasteries. The five rites were first brought
    to the attention of the Western world in the original edition
    of Mr. Kelder's book, published almost 50 years ago.

    Since that time,the book and its extraordinary wealth of
    information have been largely lost and forgotten. The purpose
    of this new, revised edition is to bring Mr. Kelder's
    message back before the public in hope that large
    numbers of people will be influenced and helped by it.
    It is impossible to say whether Mr. Kelder's story of Colonel
    Bradford is based on fact, fiction, or a blend of the
    two. But the validity of his message is beyond question.

    My own experience, as well as letters and notes from
    readers throughout the world, proves to my complete
    satisfaction that the five rites do really work! I cannot
    promise that the rites will erase 50 years from your age,
    transform you overnight, or make you live to 125. But I
    do know that they can help anyone to look and feel years
    younger, and to gain a greater sense of well-being. If you
    perform the rites daily, you should begin to notice results
    in 30 days or less. In about ten weeks, you'll probably start
    to see more substantial benefits. Whatever the pace of
    your progress, it's always a thrilling moment when
    friends actually begin to comment that you are looking
    younger and healthier.

    If the five rites really work, the big question is how?
    How could simple exercises have such a profound effect
    on the body's aging process? It is interesting to note that
    Mr. Kelder's explanation, which you are about to read,
    does find some support in recent scientific advancements.
    Kirlian photography, which shows the body surrounded
    by an invisible electrical field or "aura," does
    indeed suggest that we are "fed" by some form of energy
    that permeates the universe. It is also true that the Kirlian
    aura of a young, healthy person is different from that of
    an aging, unhealthy person.

    For thousands of years Eastern mystics have maintained
    that the body has seven principal energy centers
    corresponding to the seven endocrine glands. The hormones
    produced by these glands regulate all of our bodily
    functions. Medical research has recently uncovered convincing
    evidence that even the aging process is hormone
    regulated. It appears that the pituitary gland begins
    producing a "death hormone" at the onset of puberty.

    This "death hormone" apparently interferes with the ability
    of cells to utilize beneficial hormones, such as growth
    hormone. As a result, our cells and organs gradually
    deteriorate, and finally die. In other words, the aging process
    takes its toll.

    If the five rites do indeed normalize imbalance in the
    body's seven energy centers, as Mr. Kelder maintains,
    perhaps as a consequence hormonal imbalance is normalized
    also. This could make it possible for our cells to
    replicate and prosper as they did when we were very
    young. We could indeed see and feel ourselves growing
    "younger" day by day.

    You may agree or disagree with this point of view. And
    as you read this book you will find many more points to
    agree or disagree with. But this is important: Do not
    allow disagreements to distract you from the book's central
    issue-the benefits earned by performing the five
    rites. There is only one way to find out whether the five
    rites will work for you, and that is to try them. ll-y them
    and give them a fair chance to succeed.

    As with any reward, benefits will come only as a result
    of your effort. You must be willing to invest a small
    amount of time and energy to perform the five rites on
    a daily basis. If after a few weeks you lose interest and
    perform them only occasionally, don't expect the very
    best results. Fortunately, most people find the daily
    routine of performing the five rites not only easy, but also
    enjoyable.

    As you read this book and begin putting the five rites
    to work for yourself, please keep two things in mind.
    First, know that you are a wonderfully special person
    who can see beyond the limited thoughts and opinions
    of others. If you weren't, this book would not have attracted
    your attention. Second, know that you deserve
    to have your most cherished desires fulfilled, even the
    desire for renewed youth and vitality. Those who deep
    down inside see themselves as unworthy and undeserving
    are the ones who seem to never share in life's
    rewards.

    When you hold yourself in high esteem, and when you
    know that you are worthy of the very best that life can
    offer, what you are really doing is loving yourself. Selflove
    enables you to feel good about who and what you
    are, and this greatly speeds the renewal process.
    Those who dislike themselves or see themselves as inadequate
    carry a burden that can only accelerate the
    ravages of old age and ill health. Those who enrich
    themselves with the treasure of self-love make all things
    possible.

    -Editor
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  • Profile picture of the author Li Weng
    They're not effective. I'm experienced in martial arts and taoist qigong. I've tried them over a period of time. Don't feel any energy flows.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom E
      Originally Posted by Li Weng View Post

      They're not effective. I'm experienced in martial arts and taoist qigong. I've tried them over a period of time. Don't feel any energy flows.
      Looks like it's an individual thing. Myself and others in this thread have used the rites with great success, but again, it depends on what you're currently already doing. If you're already doing exercices/energy work at a high level (which it sounds like you're doing) and then add the rites, you wouldn't notice much of a difference.
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      • Profile picture of the author niac7
        It was odd to find a Thread about the Five Tibetan Rites here.

        I've been doing these for years, but stopped for a while. They do work though. I just started partying and drinking.

        Now I have a Five Tibetan Rites blog that tracks my progress using the Rites to get back in shape.

        Check it out. I plan to update it when I have time.

        Nothing for sale right now. Just some funny "Before" pics showing my Gut.

        Enjoy!
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  • Profile picture of the author USGTMauthor
    I found them for free online and did them. However, there are some sources that say the set is incomplete I am not well versed enough in these things to know. They do improve your health and flexibility, as far as magic goes, I did not experience any.
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  • Profile picture of the author KenThompson
    I did the 5 Rites for about a month or two, I guess maybe 7 years
    ago. Not really sure why I stopped.

    The main thing I noticed was my energy level. There was a very
    noticeable increase in my energy level and general feeling of well-being.
    I just had a really good feeling when I was doing them.

    You'd think I would not have stopped, but I did.
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  • Profile picture of the author domainarama
    Hasn't any Hollywood star discovered this yet? Bollywood star?
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  • Profile picture of the author billapas
    I tried the Rites for about a year. I must say that they exercises did make me fitter and more able to run about physically.

    But the extravagant claims about getting younger and such are just hogwash, in my opinion.
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  • Profile picture of the author guyr70
    We Can Get Back the Metabolism We Had at 25

    I don't know much about this product but what I do know is that Heidi has been doing the Five Tibetan rites regularly and her energy levels are continuing to increase, her muscles have definition they never had before, she has lost 20lbs (9kg) effortlessly, She has greater ability to work and has been getting a few jobs and what's really amazing is her right arm that she broke five years ago and could not straighten is almost normal having straightened by 10-15 degrees
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      • Profile picture of the author goindeep
        Ive never even heard of the rites till now. But in the past i have used the Higher Balance meditation system which draws prana into 3 of your main chakras for distribution throughout the rest of the body.

        Its very calming, but sometimes the energy gets so intense you begin vibrating and your spine starts to shudder. I have had some pf the most powerful spiritual experiences with Higher Balance and highly recommend them.

        Sorry i know it deviates from OP but ah well.
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        • Profile picture of the author Tom E
          Originally Posted by Andrei Rotariu View Post

          Ive never even heard of the rites till now. But in the past i have used the Higher Balance meditation system which draws prana into 3 of your main chakras for distribution throughout the rest of the body.

          Its very calming, but sometimes the energy gets so intense you begin vibrating and your spine starts to shudder. I have had some pf the most powerful spiritual experiences with Higher Balance and highly recommend them.

          Sorry i know it deviates from OP but ah well.
          Looks interesting. Plus, they're giving away the first course (Core 1) in exchange for doing a trial. Open this page: Higher Balance Institute Online Store
          Try closing the window after the page loads, and the free trial offer will pop up. Gotta love it, haha! I think I might try it.

          Thanks for opening this thread again everyone, reminded me to get back to doing the five rites!
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  • Profile picture of the author SteveB1
    You're probably supposed to combine this with some kind of dietary plan aren't you? Hard to believe these movements could help someone who has consistently bad eating habits.
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    • Profile picture of the author Loren Woirhaye
      Originally Posted by SteveB1 View Post

      You're probably supposed to combine this with some kind of dietary plan aren't you? Hard to believe these movements could help someone who has consistently bad eating habits.
      The associated yogic diet is so austere even many vegans would be
      challenged by it. At the basic, such a diet is called Sattvic
      (leading to the state of Sattva). It is devoid of flesh foods,
      acid-forming foods, added salt, pungent foods and so forth -
      basically anything considered yummy by people who eat
      the rich, salty diets of many 1st world countries.

      It's extremely bland but very calming to the spirit and allows
      a practitioner to enter in meditation much more easily.
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  • Profile picture of the author MichaelF
    You don't really believe that people have lived to be 150 do you? There are zero verifiable cases of humans living that long. People of the Asian sub continent also believe in BS like flying yogis.

    In general people fret about things that have a low probability of shortening their lives, i.e. murder, when they should be focusing on mundane things like:

    Eat healthy, don't smoke, don't partake of dangerous activities, keep stress levels low, exercise which includes joint mobility work, hope you have good genes, don't live in Baghdad, and wear your seat belt.
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    • Profile picture of the author romolo
      ye, thanks for sharing this with us, I too didn't know about this but I have to says that I am rather interested. Thanks allot
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    • Profile picture of the author biggsy
      Originally Posted by MichaelF View Post

      You don't really believe that people have lived to be 150 do you? There are zero verifiable cases of humans living that long. People of the Asian sub continent also believe in BS like flying yogis.

      In general people fret about things that have a low probability of shortening their lives, i.e. murder, when they should be focusing on mundane things like:

      Eat healthy, don't smoke, don't partake of dangerous activities, keep stress levels low, exercise which includes joint mobility work, hope you have good genes, don't live in Baghdad, and wear your seat belt.

      There are still Yogis alive in the Himalayas that are in that age range close to 150 years old. Mainstream will never admit it because it goes against their profit pulling products.
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  • Profile picture of the author PeterDunin
    I suffer with back problems,would this be ok for me?
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom E
      Originally Posted by PeterDunin View Post

      I suffer with back problems,would this be ok for me?
      As with anything, if in doubt, check with your doctor first. Main rule of thumb should be (especially with a back problem), if it hurts your back a lot, don't do it. You might actually want to pick up the full copy of this book, as it has a lot of advice for people in pain and how to get started with the 5 rites.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris1203
    I am amazed that I have never heard of the 5 Tibetan Rights. But you've got me curious and now I have to check it out!
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    • Profile picture of the author Lalaine
      I did this for several months last year and noticed an improvement in my flexibility and energy level. I think it's time for me to get back into doing it. Thanks for the reminder.
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  • I have experimented with a lot of physical and spiritual practices and also am a licensed yoga instructor in a different school of yoga. While I can't confirm the magical claims made by the book, in my experience the 5 tibetans are the single most powerful and effective 15-minute practice you can do, for they strengthen AND stretch all major muscle groups, while working systematically through the entire (lower 7) chakra system and adding potent breathwork to it. I love this practice, cause I am a bit lazy :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author Anoopchawla
    Hey everybody, I have started five Tibetan rites few days back and I am a bit confused about the first rite.

    As the author says that dervishes do this all the time, and so he suggests that we should move from left to right, but I have noticed that dervishes don't move from left to right they move from right to left.

    I am confused what is the right way to do it?
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  • Profile picture of the author gallowayvera
    thanks for sharing
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  • Profile picture of the author Abby Gibbs
    Not familiar to me but i would love to read and try it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Daymon
    This is totally new to me, intend to do some search on it now... thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author JoeUK
    Interesting, I'm going to look into this as I've never heard of it before. I also have had lower back issues which have diminished with certain exercises/stretching so this sounds like it could fit in perfectly - 150 years of age here we come!
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  • Profile picture of the author wsiebler
    Just started a few days ago but they feel good to me. Will keep doing them daily and see how I go.
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    • Profile picture of the author wideawake144
      Hi everyone,
      Brand new to the forum. I just registered to get in on this conversation. Loren and Robert, you both seem to have a keen knowledge and understanding of something I want very much, an advanced understanding of qi and ability to control and direct it through the body. I have been an energy breather/rebirthing breathworker for much of my life, and know some basic yogic techniques, but am wondering if you'd have any advice on where to start to learn more about these "bandas" you've mentioned, and any other foundational techniques for learning this type of thing. There are so many different teachers and types of qi gong, tai chi, etc. I'm reluctant to choose anything for fear of spending time on something that won't get me the results I'm looking for.

      PS: personally started the 5 rites two days ago. My body is relatively used to chi and physical exercise so I went straight to doing 10 of each. I have to say I've felt some noticeable and pleasant effects in my chest/solar plexus thus far. Interested to see how far it takes me.

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  • Profile picture of the author wsiebler
    Wow it's been 2 years of doing them now. I will do them as long as I live that's how much I love them.
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  • Profile picture of the author adamnassar
    I was unfamiliar with these. However, I did a search on google and came up with results of videos and articles.
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    Five Tibetan Rites to slow aging, increase energy, improve breathing, and strengthen neck, lower back
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
    Hi Tom,

    I never heard of these rites but am open to the idea, especially considering I lived not too far from Tibet in Kathmandu 2 months ago.

    Neat share!
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  • Profile picture of the author jw22777
    I haven't heard of that method..now I'm going to research that. Who wouldn't want to live to 150 lol?
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  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
    Originally Posted by Tom E View Post

    Looks like it's an individual thing. Myself and others in this thread have used the rites with great success, but again, it depends on what you're currently already doing. If you're already doing exercices/energy work at a high level (which it sounds like you're doing) and then add the rites, you wouldn't notice much of a difference.
    Yes, sounds familiar to what l do, but l do some palates type exercises with the 5 things, (well, similar) and about 10 pushups, and light weight exercises.

    I don't do the spinning one; and have done this for years every few days, (l literally couldn't do this daily as my stomach muscles would get to sore).

    It does make a difference, and combined with energy conservation, (Chinese practice) you look good and feel good.

    I am just over 50, but never seem to age much over 36, which virtually everyone guesses as my age.

    Of course l also have a bowl of fruit for breakfast, that also has a noticeable difference on your health.


    Originally Posted by goindeep View Post

    Ive never even heard of the rites till now. But in the past i have used the Higher Balance meditation system which draws prana into 3 of your main chakras for distribution throughout the rest of the body.

    Its very calming, but sometimes the energy gets so intense you begin vibrating and your spine starts to shudder. I have had some pf the most powerful spiritual experiences with Higher Balance and highly recommend them.

    Sorry i know it deviates from OP but ah well.
    Yes, l have had similar ballpark type experiences. You begin to see the world and you in a new way when you experience universal source energy.

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    • Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post


      I am just over 50, but never seem to age much over 36, which virtually everyone guesses as my age.
      True. In fact the first two years I read your posts, I guessed that you were about 14 years old.

      The fountain of youth.
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      • Profile picture of the author Odahh
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        True. In fact the first two years I read your posts, I guessed that you were about 14 years old.

        The fountain of youth.
        the people around me in the library are looking at me funny because of the way i am laughing ..

        a a razor and a good shave tend to do the trick of making me look 10-15 years younger ..and a pretty filipina on my arm ..those time i manage ..makes people think i must be rich..

        now did i get this in before it closed
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  • Profile picture of the author Joyce Birmingham
    Quite admirable, but I would like to meet these people aged 150+ years.
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  • i looked up the Five Tibetan Rites.

    Really? Those simple stretches?

    Yoga, Chi Kung, and any physical culture booklet will have similar exercises. I studied Kung Fu for 20 years...and we had plenty of chi kung exercise sequences that were much more demanding than this. This is a beginner series of stretches. Any experienced kung fu or yoga practitioner would tell you that this isn't anything other than a beginner training. Show these to any fitness instructor and they would tell you "Sure, you should do something like this to get the blood flowing before you do real exercise"

    "But they give me so much energy!". Sure they do, just like any daily routine of stretching.

    "But they can make you live to 150 years old!".

    They can make you feel better, if you get almost no exercise. And any limbering exercise will help you stay...well...limber as you age.

    But our cells stop dividing at about 120 years of age. That's why even the most healthy of us don't live longer than that...and almost nobody past the age of 100 can even walk.

    Nothing wrong with the exercises. But I'm constantly fascinated by the stories that are built around any instruction like this.

    Has anyone here claimed yet that these exercises will cure cancer? Give it time.
    Oh..and looking 40 years old at 150?

    That's because the instructor had his photo taken at 50, and he looked healthy for his age.

    Or...you can go with the "Medical science is hiding this miracle 5 Tibetan Rites from us, because it threatens their power...." claim.

    Illuminati.
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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    though i study and feel science will figure out how to increase lifespan and quality of life..there is no one thing you will do 10 minutes a day that will do it .

    yes staying mobile will be important . prober gut biom health and diet based on your dna/metabolism and how your body responds to food ..

    but the greatest factor to increase the length of life and quality of life is building wealth to support life style over the long term .

    i had to add..if you want to ask what about poor old monks who are old healthy and happy.. well if you want to live in a moneststary see how it works for you .

    and most healthy 80,9-100 years olds may not have millions in the bank..but they owned the land they lived on and had very big families that was the old wealth system land and many children .
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  • We're going to need more than that to live longer these days.

    Too many toxins and other poisons going into our bodies.

    I think it really comes down to being aware. The more aware we are the more control we can possibly have. I mean obviously we never know when it's our time but we can try our best to prolong that by just being aware.
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