The 1 Thing That Will Change Your Life Above All Else

ryanbiddulph

16 years ago

Thank you for stopping by John.

It's good to keep this concept in mind when the tough times show up.

RB

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Porter

16 years ago

I would like to add a reminder that "resistance" is often created out of the perception we have about a situation.
So, do we need to suffer and feel resistance for growth at all?

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ryanbiddulph

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Porter

I would like to add a reminder that "resistance" is often created out of the perception we have about a situation.
So, do we need to suffer and feel resistance for growth at all?

Good point Porter.

Resistance is the product of our perception.

We will face resistance when attracting goals; if we didn't experience resistance, we'd already have reached the goal. In the same respect this resistance doesn't have to lead to suffering. We can completely accept the situation.

Having lived in poverty for a number of months I can say that it was quite difficult not to judge a situation where I subsisted off of a literal handful of food per day for weeks on end and dropped 25 pounds over a 2 month period. The physical toll that malnutrition took on my body was intense.

It was what it was - resistance - and I did choose to suffer, but save enlightened beings most if not all people on the Warrior forum will go through situations these these and suffer, if they are willing to blast out of their comfort zone like I am.

Judge as little as you can, but when you feel like you're on the brink and can't take it, keep going. It's worth it.

Thanks for sharing your insight guys

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SviegertmanLive

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Porter

I would like to add a reminder that "resistance" is often created out of the perception we have about a situation.
So, do we need to suffer and feel resistance for growth at all?

Sviegert Says:

"What you are referring to there Porter is The Law Of Non-Resistance, which has more to do with you getting what it is you want without infringing on the rights of others. It does not apply to your own growth. Yeah, it's true that you want to think about things with an optimistic slant towards the future but there is going to be periods of short term pain so just suck it up and move on.

It's true that most of the pain will just be in your head, the situation is not as big of a deal as you think it is, but that's just it, move on so you don't get stuck.

Just attempting to help."

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tonio79

16 years ago

If you hit the depths of life and struggling then you are now looking at the world from a different angle and mentality.

You can find yourself asking the questions of yourself more urgently and most importantly TAKE ACTION to do something.

Its so easy to cruise through life when everything is seemingly fine...but when up against it.....you either have to do something very different from what you were doing or get used to a very different way of life!

Nice post.

Happy new year!

Tonio

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Flora Hazel Tysee

16 years ago

Our pain is our growth. Our growth is our story. Our story becomes the memories of our lives. Keep growing my friend. You are well on your way to a beautiful life story.

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scortillion

16 years ago

Growth may come out of our pain, but sometimes I feel like I would have given up the growth if I could have avoided the pain, especially when it’s the death of a loved one.

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ryanbiddulph

16 years ago

Originally Posted by scortillion

Growth may come out of our pain, but sometimes I feel like I would have given up the growth if I could have avoided the pain, especially when it's the death of a loved one.

These are the toughest times, losing a loved one, being in the depths of depression, feeling hopeless.

My greatest surges of creativity came after suffering extended periods of depression. I don't seek out the pain of these experiences but I know I can't avoid them, for if I try to dodge pain I know that I'm dodging Life.

I read stories of people like Abraham Lincoln and Charles Dickens, men who lost loved ones and transformed these emotions into powerful creative forces that changed the world.

When feeling my worst I try to remember these men and say to myself, "If they could do it, I can too."

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donhx

16 years ago

Originally Posted by ryanbiddulph

"Out of my greatest despair was to come my greatest gift." ~ Rhonda Byrne

There's a good chance your most precious gifts will arrive after you've experienced physical or emotional pain.

I became a totally different person after experiencing down times. Testing periods precede gifting periods and in truth, it's all a gift because without the tests we aren't introduced to our higher selves. If you didn't meet your higher self you would live a life of mediocrity.

Be thankful for each supposed obstacle in your life. Resistance is a spring board; when passing resistance you are often catapulted to your next stage of development.

How do you attack moments of despair? Do you find that your greatest growth coincides with your greatest trials?

RB

I really don't want to be cynical. Honest!

But these kinds of ideas are very 19th century American ideas for the most part. They are not universal. For example, they would never work in places like sub-Sahara Africa or Bangladesh. When people there have down times it does not lead to an epiphany, it leads to further suffering or death.

The mind seldom lifts people above circumstances, but improved circumstances almost always lifts the mind. If you doubt that, find some person in despair because they are hungry, then feed them. There is an almost instant change in their mental attitude.

I don't think emotional pain is the way to enlightenment, even though many religions teach that. The way to enlightenment is opportunity. Opportunity is defined as "a chance for advancement, progress or profit; a favorable circumstance or occasion." So, it's about hope, IMHO, not suffering.

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ryanbiddulph

16 years ago

Originally Posted by donhx

I don't think emotional pain is the way to enlightenment, even though many religions teach that. The way to enlightenment is opportunity. Opportunity is defined as "a chance for advancement, progress or profit; a favorable circumstance or occasion." So, it's about hope, IMHO, not suffering.

I feel the way to enlightenment is acceptance of what is: pain, good times, bad times, etc.

Everything just "is." We decide to add labels with our individual perceptions.

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donhx

16 years ago

Originally Posted by ryanbiddulph

I feel the way to enlightenment is acceptance of what is: pain, good times, bad times, etc.

Everything just "is." We decide to add labels with our individual perceptions.

RB

Well, this is the view of the old classical Greek Stoics. Zeno said, "A Stoic achieves happiness by submission to destiny."

I'm not sure all the old ideas you present meet real world 21st century needs. In your posts I have seen a lot of echoes from St Paul, William James and Horatio Alger, but Stoicism runs counter to them all. So, I'm not sure of the direction you are taking.

Our times call for a unique, dynamic approach to dealing with the inner and outer factors of our lives. My own opinion is that answers are not found in recycling old religious or philosophical ideas, but can be found in something like communications theory. The old perceptions, like those of Stoicism, do not serve modern man very well. The old cliches like, "Don't push the river, just let it flow," are great unless you have things to do and places to go and mouths to feed, as most of us do. A field like communications theory is a bridge across the river.

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ryanbiddulph

16 years ago

Originally Posted by donhx

I'm not sure all the old ideas you present meet real world 21st century needs.

1 fundamental difference seems to exist between our viewpoints: I believe in timelessness, you believe in changing your frame of mind according to the times we are living in. I see your mention of changing times but the most wise men always said that grasping at things in time and space is futile and will always result in pain and suffering.

Time is an illusion anyway. Einstein and modern day quantum physicists believe that everything happens simultaneously. Although I don't always live this way I do believe in this concept, so I feel that changing your thoughts to conform to an illusion will ultimately cause suffering.

It's like trying to grab air. One moment gone, the next moment follows. Then the next moment. Numbers on a calendar mean nothing compared to the moment for the moment is all there is. And numbers on a calendar are the product of a man-made concept based on the movement of sun and moon.

Ultimately, whatever works for you

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RB

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donhx

16 years ago

Originally Posted by ryanbiddulph

1 fundamental difference seems to exist between our viewpoints: I believe in timelessness, you believe in changing your frame of mind according to the times we are living in. I see your mention of changing times but the most wise men always said that grasping at things in time and space is futile and will always result in pain and suffering.

Time is an illusion anyway. Einstein and modern day quantum physicists believe that everything happens simultaneously. Although I don't always live this way I do believe in this concept, so I feel that changing your thoughts to conform to an illusion will ultimately cause suffering.

It's like trying to grab air. One moment gone, the next moment follows. Then the next moment. Numbers on a calendar mean nothing compared to the moment for the moment is all there is. And numbers on a calendar are the product of a man-made concept based on the movement of sun and moon.

Ultimately, whatever works for you

All the best,

RB

Okay, you convinced me. We are on totally different levels of understanding.

You appear to be a follower of modern (not classical) sophism, so no point in dialoging further about this topic.

"Whatever works for you" is the ultimate in sophistic reductionism. A big practitioner of it was Frank Sinatra. He said, "Basically, I'm for anything that gets you through the night - be it prayer, tranquilizers or a bottle of Jack Daniels."

Not much meaning in that for anyone, as Frank proved.

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Alfonso_Montenegro

16 years ago

Originally Posted by donhx

"Whatever works for you" is the ultimate in sophistic reductionism. A big practitioner of it was Frank Sinatra. He said, "Basically, I'm for anything that gets you through the night - be it prayer, tranquilizers or a bottle of Jack Daniels."

Not much meaning in that for anyone, as Frank proved.

Haha! This is funny, don!