Tim Ferriss' The 4-Hour Workweek

13 years ago

Funny enough i've started reading this today =]

I'm only just over 60 pages in, i'm going to continue reading this later, but already
i can clearly see a set pattern, hard work first, relax second, period. no shortcut.

Its an interesting read, I have the digital copy, i think i'll be spending the day
reading it, may get something i can apply out of it.

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cerava

13 years ago

Originally Posted by UnsungHero

Funny enough i've started reading this today =]

I'm only just over 60 pages in, i'm going to continue reading this later, but already
i can clearly see a set pattern, hard work first, relax second, period. no shortcut.

Its an interesting read, I have the digital copy, i think i'll be spending the day
reading it, may get something i can apply out of it.

Thanks for the reply, UnsungHero. I must confess that I see many patterns Ferriss is proposing that's similar to Brian Tracy's. While he denounces popular time management, his methods are similar to what Tracy proposes in the latter's work in the field.

Both authors make a reference to Drucker. It seems I must investigate and learn more about who Peter Drucker is.

On my end, I'm trying to merge Ferriss' work with Rhonda Byrne's The Secret. So, I need to finish the book - which is a Christmas present from my brother - and the DVD. :-)

For Warriors who have read and tried the methods or has merged Ferriss with some form of law of attraction method (whether The Secret, Tony Robbins etc.), how has it worked out for you?

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UnsungHero

13 years ago

Ahhh the law of attraction method, "The Secret" isn't really a secret, take
what you've got from the secret and type it into Google, you'll find similar
stuff being sold everywhere.

The fact is the secret is doing it, you can sit and affirm all you want but unless
you actually get down and bite the grind and work, you won't achieve anything,
what i've found the The Secret and many other similar courses is just that
it helps to keep you motivated and confident that you can succeed through
failures.

Well, that what i got from the Secret anyway, your experience may differ, but
thats what i personally got out of it, so combining the two (so far) i get:

Work Hard.
Stay Positive.
Affirm you can achieve your goals.
Stay motivated.
Stay confident.
You'll achieve success.

Which is pretty much all the same information any one will tell you, I'll post
again if my views change, but i doubt they will, thats just my opinion, i'd
love to here another warriors opinons/comparison's and contrasts.

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DonnyBoy

12 years ago

Originally Posted by UnsungHero

Ahhh the law of attraction method, "The Secret" isn't really a secret, take
what you've got from the secret and type it into Google, you'll find similar
stuff being sold everywhere.

The fact is the secret is doing it, you can sit and affirm all you want but unless
you actually get down and bite the grind and work, you won't achieve anything,
what i've found the The Secret and many other similar courses is just that
it helps to keep you motivated and confident that you can succeed through
failures.

Well, that what i got from the Secret anyway, your experience may differ, but
thats what i personally got out of it, so combining the two (so far) i get:

Work Hard.
Stay Positive.
Affirm you can achieve your goals.
Stay motivated.
Stay confident.
You'll achieve success.

Which is pretty much all the same information any one will tell you, I'll post
again if my views change, but i doubt they will, thats just my opinion, i'd
love to here another warriors opinons/comparison's and contrasts.

Absolutely! A dream remains a dream, no matter how big, until you put in some real work and action!

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depp12 12 years ago

I read the book it is very good and he provides some great ideas. His blog is very good and you can read some real life case studies where people actually applied these principles.

Actually, I am going to start reading this again today and maybe take action this time
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Dimitris Skiadas

13 years ago

I own the hard copy of the book.I started reading it 12 months ago and at the time i had reached the first 120 pages.I had to leave the book for a while because some health problems got in the way and didn't have the time to continue reading it.A week ago i started reading it again from where i ve stopped

Timothy is a very smart guy.He doesn't fluff at all at his book,he has brilliant ideas,he made me start thinking in a totally different way.He was the reason i even started with Internet Marketing a year ago.Everything he says can be put in use.But you have to take action,not just read the book.

Stay positive and believe in your self.These book has taught these 2 valuable lessons

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gekko2.0

13 years ago

4HWW is an awesome book, Tim is a marketing genius and there is a ton of useful info in the book

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DrMeg 13 years ago

If I were teaching a course in entrepreneurship, the 4 HWW would definitely be one of the text books.

Real life results: I now outsource and get so much more done.

Another real life result: I gave a copy of the book to my neighbor when he got laid off last year and now he has started his own freelancing business and making more with his skills than he ever did as an employee.

I'm no where near only working 4 hours a week, but, I've at least now got a road map.
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bcturner

13 years ago

The book is great

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cerava

13 years ago

Originally Posted by UnsungHero

Ahhh the law of attraction method, "The Secret" isn't really a secret, take hat you've got from the secret and type it into Google, you'll find similar stuff being sold everywhere.

The fact is the secret is doing it, you can sit and affirm all you want but unless you actually get down and bite the grind and work, you won't achieve anything, what i've found the The Secret and many other similar courses is just that it helps to keep you motivated and confident that you can succeed through failures.

Well, that what i got from the Secret anyway, your experience may differ, but
thats what i personally got out of it, so combining the two (so far) i get:

Work Hard.
Stay Positive.
Affirm you can achieve your goals.
Stay motivated.
Stay confident.
You'll achieve success.

Which is pretty much all the same information any one will tell you, I'll post
again if my views change, but i doubt they will, thats just my opinion, i'd
love to here another warriors opinons/comparison's and contrasts.

Unsung, I agree with your conclusion. Mine goes along the similar line. The Secret isn't really a secret - but it does sell well under that name... ;-)

After completing the two works, I can summarise it as this:

Focus on what you want, think of it most of the time with feeling
Eliminate what is unneccessary - whether chores or perceptions towards an object
Delegate where possible to free up your time to do what you want to do, what excites you
Challenge/question your beliefs and the norms of society - there must be a better way, and you believe that there is
Hiccups are abound, but these should never be your focus - keep an eye on the long term goal
You either learn or lose (My variation of the "you either win or learn")
Start living life the way you want it to be, not the way you don't want it to be
Mind the company you keep for they shape your environment
Think in abundance as opposed to limitation, there are always solutions
Action begets results, action is driven by passion
It's all in the mind, a slight shift in emotion and perception can change your outlook.

Anything I missed out?

Originally Posted by Garage667

I own the hard copy of the book.I started reading it 12 months ago and at the time i had reached the first 120 pages.I had to leave the book for a while because some health problems got in the way and didn't have the time to continue reading it.A week ago i started reading it again from where i ve stopped

Timothy is a very smart guy.He doesn't fluff at all at his book,he has brilliant ideas,he made me start thinking in a totally different way.He was the reason i even started with Internet Marketing a year ago.Everything he says can be put in use.But you have to take action,not just read the book.

Stay positive and believe in your self.These book has taught these 2 valuable lessons

How are you doing now, Dimitris? Theres that one chapter where Ferriss talks about information overload - very useful but I can only do it during the semester break. ;-)

Originally Posted by gekko2.0

4HWW is an awesome book, Tim is a marketing genius and there is a ton of useful info in the book

Indeed it is - the latest/revised edition covered more grounds with more no-nonsense tips and tricks.

Originally Posted by DrMeg

If I were teaching a course in entrepreneurship, the 4 HWW would definitely be one of the text books.

Real life results: I now outsource and get so much more done.

Another real life result: I gave a copy of the book to my neighbor when he got laid off last year and now he has started his own freelancing business and making more with his skills than he ever did as an employee.

I'm no where near only working 4 hours a week, but, I've at least now got a road map.

Meg, that's wonderful! I'm planning to lend the book to a lecturer of mine who's going through some tough times at the moment. Young guy with passion and vision. Perhaps this can help him pursue his dreams further?

I need to do the 1st two steps in Ferriss' 4-step formula. Somehow I'm always stuck at D. :confused:

Originally Posted by bcturner

The book is great

Indeed it is, bcturner. :-) Thank you for your feedback.

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Dimitris Skiadas

13 years ago

Originally Posted by cerava

How are you doing now, Dimitris? Theres that one chapter where Ferriss talks about information overload - very useful but I can only do it during the semester break. ;-)

I am doing great!Not where i want to be but still in a good path.Hope to get rid of my daily job soon and concentrate as a full time IMarketer.

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UnsungHero

13 years ago

No you pretty much got it in one cerava :-)

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doylesoft

13 years ago

Tim's book is well done. He is a master at what he does. He also holds some sort of wrestling or UFC title, but not by conventional methods. He found out that if you can push or throw your opponent out of the ring (with certain rules and contexts I'm sure) you would win the match.

The book talks about how to live anywhere you please and have (mostly) The Internet do all the boring work for you and make you money.

He talks about things like: affiliate marketing, drop shippers, Virtual Assistants, etc. His book has tons of URLs to lots of different sites.

Overall, it's a good book, but he does have a radical style and it might be hard to grasp his point of view at times.

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cerava

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Garage667

I am doing great!Not where i want to be but still in a good path.Hope to get rid of my daily job soon and concentrate as a full time IMarketer.

Visualise and focus on it, it shall be yours. :-) Or as Brian Tracy puts it: visualise you leaving your job and have your focus on that most of the time.

Originally Posted by doylesoft

Tim's book is well done. He is a master at what he does. He also holds some sort of wrestling or UFC title, but not by conventional methods. He found out that if you can push or throw your opponent out of the ring (with certain rules and contexts I'm sure) you would win the match.

The book talks about how to live anywhere you please and have (mostly) The Internet do all the boring work for you and make you money.

He talks about things like: affiliate marketing, drop shippers, Virtual Assistants, etc. His book has tons of URLs to lots of different sites.

Overall, it's a good book, but he does have a radical style and it might be hard to grasp his point of view at times.

Chinese kickboxing, Brandon. Well, his reasoning appeals to me. It simply shows that if you change perspectives or beliefs, you can accomplish great things within a given so-called "rules and limitations". As a former law student, who aspires to be one again, one thing law school taught me is this: it is the duty of the law students and legal practitioners to create, add and invent colours from the black, white and grey.

I'm overwhelmed by the information he shared. But - to quote Julie Andrews - let's start at the very beginning. Need to sort out the D before I move on to his other techniques. :-)

Here's to 3 months of Pareto Principle towards accomplishment! :-D

Originally Posted by UnsungHero

No you pretty much got it in one cerava :-)

Well, we can never know what underlying revelations the book may offer for those with a different perspective. ;-) It would be interesting to discover.

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traderbenji 13 years ago

I love this book, and having just left my J.ust O.ver B.roke, I am again using the principles in this book as well as a few others to build a business, not just another job. Something that I can walk away from if needs be and it still makes me money.
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rcritchett

13 years ago

Nice man!

Yes, I read the book.

I've been applying a lot of it since 2008 and it is very sound and very effective.

I have improved rapidly in the area of fear. Defining fears was huge for me. Culturally, we get so petrified of things that aren't even real.. so we don't take action, or leave our jobs for something more fulfilling.

Defining the worst case scenario, and then looking around and going "that isn't so bad," is a very useful tool, especially if you want to go full time entrepreneur and you're a bit afraid to do so!

The truth is, reality is negotiable. I loved the book, I'm an active follower of Tim Ferriss, I think he truly is a genius.

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kwazi

13 years ago

I haven't read the book but I'll definitely try to pick it up one of these days.

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LiamP 13 years ago

It's an excellent and useful book, his new one (4 hour body) is great too. I lost 4kg (9 pounds) using one of the methods in that book last week, and (more pertinently to this forum) gained a bunch of extra energy to work on my business I haven't had before.
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DaveCraige

12 years ago

Have you read the book?

Yep!

How far in applying the ideas and principles are you?

I've worked on a ton of outsourcing projects and have lived in India and visited the Philippines. I try to delegate as professionally as I can.

How are your actions improving your current situation?

The book reminds me to always focus on working smart

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Odahh

12 years ago

forget just reading the book .. look up his talks on you tube .. he is probably one of the best minds to study today ..

the focus is not so much 4hww it is more not working for the sake of being busy ..the methods he uses are to figure out what are the most effective things he can do with his body and mind to get results fast ..

aperently he was an early investor in twitter and did sell his business before 4 hour body came out..

tim ferris, seth godin are very good sourses ..

Now i have had to get my head together .. but after several years of exposure to his concepts i start thinking about the mot automatabe buiness i can put together ..

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Kragsig

12 years ago

I would also really like to know if anybody in here gets a four our workweek in the future or just a big reduce of time spent weekly as a result of reading this book...

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hyonglin

12 years ago

Great book on outsourcing. Reminds us to use other people's time (OPT)

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stopper

12 years ago

I heard a lot about this book. I wonder where I can get my hands on it? The four hour week.

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LisaAllen

12 years ago

Awesome book! So often we think because we CAN do something ourselves, we SHOULD. And that definitely isn't true. I like how simply Tim gets that across.

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zackick

12 years ago

I did read motivation book about the law of attraction

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Mattias

12 years ago

I read the book on my 10 hour flight from Miami to Copenhagen, its a great book..made those 10 hours feeling a lot shorter

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DaveCraige

12 years ago

/\ heh, you read the 4 hour book in 10 hours.

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slingingshot15

12 years ago

I've read many motivational books but never this one although I hear many people talk about this book..

Does it really live up to the hype???

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Michael Ten

12 years ago

I own the book. Not far. Unsure/hopefully.

I happened to see this the other day: