This Is Why The Law Of Attraction DOESN'T work

The basic flaw in all this is that the Law Of Attraction is not a Law like the Law Of Gravitation that they compare it to. Newton's Law's can be demonstrated by anyone - drop an object and its acceleration will be exactly as the Law predicts. And this really does "always work every time" - that's why it's a Law. The "Law Of Attraction" as they call it just doesn't work that way.

Although having a positive attitude, being confident, believing in your own success etc is a definite advantage, and should be encouraged, having positive thoughts will not send out magic brainwave frequencies that change reality around you. This brainwave "magnetic signature" as one person called it, never goes out, any time.

Not in the real world.

This is a hilarious review of the film: http://mikesweeklyskepticrant.blogsp...me-victim.html

Massive book! If you've never read Napoleon Hill's work before.. Start off with Think and Grow Rich first. This book is awesome and will make reading the Law of Success more enjoyable and understandable.

I highly recommend the Law of Success, but highly suggest you read Think and Grow Rich first. You'll thank me for it. :-)

Shannon

yes,that is a really nice and a great book to read.

Good point on Napoleon Hill - most people don't know that it took him 20 years to compile his materials, either.

Corey,

you did a brilliant job here of explaining the paradox that you really have to see, feel touch and allow yourself to feel the desire of what you are wanting
yet to allow it to arrive you have to trust and let go- detach

you are right its easier to manifest the stuf youre not so attached to sometimes, cos its easier to have the attitude of 'playing' with it

wen we get all serious or stressed as many do around money
it gets really difficult to play the LOA to the advantage that we feel we 'desperately need'

thanks for reminding me

Rachel

It was touched on here, but it's the way paradoxes work that really show why people have found success in this way.

This is the other half people are either unaware of or never apply.

It's constantly pushed to stay focused, think of it all the time, work toward it every day, that the OTHER half of this "law" is rarely applied with the intention to apply it in this manner. You need to utilize the other side of the manifestation paradox to see results really come.

I find the Law of Attraction incomplete.

There's more to know, more to apply, more to do.

The 1st half of manifesting what you want everyone really knows. You need to show you want, whatever it is, in your actions, your thoughts, your emotions, your behavior. Any way you can express it. As well also brought up, craft and create that future memory. As real as you can make it. The sounds, smells, the heat of the sun on you, any conversation that might be going on in that moment. Make it as vivid as your clearest memory.

The OTHER side is that you must let go. Forget about it. You are in NO position to handle how it happens or comes into being. That job is for powers greater than you. So you must let it go. In this way you're not applying half of an equation anymore. It's just a functioning part of how things work. Put it out of your mind.

You can't fool the Universe. You must first prove you want this so badly you're going to reflect it in everything you are, think, and do, then let it go so it can do it's job.

The world can only reflect.

Hey,

I agree with Ryans Quote!

Stop waisting your time focusing on what doesn't work, and make your time more valuable by focusing your attention on what does work.

Wish you the best!

God bless,
William Veasley

When it come to choosing thoughts or monitoring thoughts. in a way it is a fool errand. What you monitor is how thought make you feel. most pass through your mind before any level of emotion is registered. It is the stuff the sticks in your craw. creates an emotion or a physical reaction that you need to monitor and choose between.

No prob Bob! Glad you liked it

Why not accept your thoughts rather then trying to control them?

I did watch the video and go to the guys website and watch his stuff. I Read one of his books about 5 years ago .. He has a point . I believe the law of attraction is real. but the way it is presented to the masses is a bit diluted.

the problem with telling people that they can get anything they want . Stems from the fact most people have no clue what they want a majority of the time. Many time they will list off socially acceptable things to want. Or list wants that will impress the teacher who told them to list the wants.

How many times have you listened to a motivation course and written down goals..when the first one was .. make a million dollars.

My view of the law of attraction is not based off of bringing certain stuff into your life because you wanted it . My view revolves around a concept like this.. i feel a certain way on a regular basis. I will bring events into my life that keep me feeling this certain way.

So If you want to feel better it is backwards to try to attract stuff into your life to make you feel that way . because you will just attract other stuff to keep you feeling like you do now. you have to work on feeling better. chose better feeling . let better feeling thoughts go . let negative thoughts go .

I am no master at this .. it is damn hard. but it is not voodoo. I have recently gone from an underling feeling of being stuck that has been there for most of my life. to a feeling of being in transition. there is a lot of relief involved when you go from thinking about the conditions you are in ..then flip around and feel better as you think of where you want to be.

Sorry if i sound like i am channeling Abraham haha.

You become what you work towards whether you think about it or not. I know many LOA failures who took no action and failed and I know many people who have never heard of the LOA and would think it is BS who work relentlessly and are quite successful. It is the action that matters. That being said there is benefit to a positive attitude and visualizing and planning what you will take action on

I've decided to stop trying to change my thoughts, but accept them instead. If you try to monitor each and very one of your thoughts, you'll drive yourself mad...

Actually, Orison S. Marden, James Allen & Wallace D. Wattles preceded Napoleon Hills's work. Marden began writing on the subject back in the 1800's & according to Napoleon Hill, Marden's books were huge sellers and were adopted as part of school curriculum here in the U.S. (Millions of Marden's books have been sold.)

The author of The Secret says Wattles was her inspiration for the movie. However, clearly The Strangest Secret offered at minimum, inspiration for the title of her work, but clearly more than that when you compare the content of both.

I haven't read the Law of Success, but I've read Think & Grow Rich, and my favorite by Napoleon Hill (& W. Clement Stone) "Success Through a Positive Mental Attitude."

Napoleon Hill talked about "going the extra mile," "self-discipline," "Applied faith," etc,.. Taking action was definitely part of his success formula.

You are so bang on here:
it amazes me how many people seem to think that law of attraction means you jus sit on your arse or lie on the beach and dream bout what you want

if you actually read hicks or dooley or anyone worth their salt and talking genuinely bout this topic, they all mention taking action
dooley calls it 'baby steps'
Abraham-hicks focus is simply that if you want your physical action to bear the fruit you want then take the time to get your thoughts and feelings into 'alignment'
do the inner work first
but nowhere do they imply dont take any action

So, if I'm not observing gravity it doesn't work for me? That explains why when someone rolls off the bed while they are sleeping, they hit the ceiling.


Joe Mobley

I think the same..

I have always thought of it as this; the law of gravity was always there. The effects of that law never changed before or after we discovered it, but it was not until man realized and understood it that we learned to fly using the very same principals of that law.

Thanks for taking the time to respond. You make some interesting points - some of which I think are the central ideas that should be promoted (but aren't) and so becomes a matter of semantics.

Indeed. However, I don't think it's so much a matter with the law of attraction in and of itself, but the way it's portrayed to the masses. I have to say, I'm really not a fan of The Secret, or the way LOA is taught in general. It's shown as some sort of separate entity that you can turn on and off, rather than something that comes from inside yourself. I think a lot of that has to do with marketing - people would rather look OUTside of themselves for solutions rather than look within. If LOA were promoted so that the only way is to suck it up and do the hard way (looking withIN), it honestly wouldn't sell as much.

I'm glad you brought this up. I myself am not a religious person, per se, though I am spiritual. "Do As Thou Wilt Unto the Whole of the Law" is my personal philosophy. Describing it in detail would require a novel's worth of expressing my spiritual, metaphysical and philosophical views, but the basic concept of it is that every individual has his or her own true path, or True Will, and their purpose in life is to find that True Will, which lies beneath the ego's drives and desires and is path to their enlightenment. If you're interested, I can go into more detail in a PM.

I think this ties everything together - shows the flaw in the way LOA is taught to the masses as well as the will to detach from ego drives to allow your Will to step forth. Everything begins in the mind, starts with YOU. I've struggled with depression myself in the past, and literally turned falling flat on my face into an artform while trying to make a better life for myself. To be brutally honest, I did some Really Stupid Sh*t in my life and had the nerve to blame others for it. I'm still cleaning up the damage, which I realize can only be done by taking responsibility in ALL areas of my life, not just one in particular.

The only way I could make changes for myself was to know my darkside. I practically let it reign free for far too long because I chose to not understand it, turned my back on it. Learning about your shadow self is something that LOA courses don't discuss. It's brutal. It's ugly. It's not fun. But it's imperative to any amount of success before you can let the light shine through.

Something also tells me this is something you're familiar with. With all that's said and done, it's not so much that LOA is false or a myth - but the way it's taught it's incomplete. They show the parts that are marketable, but don't get to the true nitty-gritty of what needs to be done. Positive thinking is all fine and good - personally I've never known a happy pessimist - but if you only do it consciously, while your unconscious mind replies, "Really? You think you can do that? LOLJK you're an idiot who can't accomplish anything," well, it's pretty easy to tell which side is going to override the other. Mentalities. Working on yourself. Knowing thyself. That's the key before you can hope to allow new life to come in.

That's good You're better off than me today, I got a hangover and woke up at 3 PM > The good that came out of that though - I'm very turned off by drinking now. Not to say I'll never have another drink, but I have the feeling of, "Okay that was fun, now it's time to do something else." Still managed to get some writing accomplished today, so I'm proud of myself for that.

There are way too many things in life that are out of our control for simple "positive thinking" to necessarily make things better. It will probably make you feel better, and you can't argue with that, but I can think positively about and work tireless toward my goals, but unforeseen circumstances, like a car crash or a bout with cancer, could get in the way.



More likely, some a##hole would get in my way and all my work and positive thinking would be for nought. That being said, being positive and setting goals aren't bad; they just aren't a guarantee of success.


Let's assume for a moment, though, that positive thinking and goal-setting do work a good chunk of the time.



This still is not the same as the message of "The Secret," which states that positive thinking has the power to change realty. They are not making a feel-good statement about a positive life philosophy. They are making a causal statement about the ability of thoughts to affect physical reality. "Think positively about getting a pony, and you will get a pony," they say. Not "Think positively about getting a pony, then work hard to save up the money, then go buy a pony."


People are right when they say that positive thinking and goal setting are not a bad thing, but this is not what "The Secret" is selling. The people responsible for this blather are selling a ridiculous claim about the nature of physical reality and your ability to alter it with your thoughts, and they are bilking people out of millions of dollars. To borrow a line from Tom Foss, life is not a game of Mage: The Ascension, no matter how much I might want it to be.

Very good Jamie. Dave flushes The Secret in a few seconds.



Joe Mobley

LOL

I have seen clients and contractors take regular Action..beating their head against a brick wall only getting headaches. So *Right* Actions rather than Action for action sake.

As my piano teacher said "perfect practice makes perfect"

This has to be the most meaningful post of this entire thread. The law of attraction deals A LOT with the subconscious mind, but really, who can say that they really understand the subconscious mind? The terms "subconscious mind" and even "higher self" are all names we've given to things we absolutely have NO IDEA about.


Focus on following your dreams instead. Follow your intuition. Do the things you feel naturally inclined to. How can you plan for the next 5 years when you don't even know what's going to happen in the next 5 minutes?

I agree with Rita...gratitude and helping others works in conjunction with LOA. Volunteering especially helps when I lose focus!