Take Action? Screw You!

by Orator
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A common theme that comes across in a lot of internet marketing forums I've read over the years seems to be a simple phrase that people love, "take action".

My question is... why?

I mean I could tell someone.. "Go climb that mountain", and it would pretty much have the same emotional impact as telling someone to "Take Action".

The words themselves are kind of vague, and don't really mean much. What kind of action am I suppose to be taking? Do I just start doing things at random, or do I plan?

Now if someone were to tell me that "If you follow these steps.. you will be able to afford that new boat you wanted so much", then it has a more visceral appeal to me.

Everybody has their own ambitions, desires, and things they want. Some of us find fulfillment in material things, or maybe the rush of euphoria we get from solving a complex problem.

Now the end result of taking such advice as "Take Action" might be to get these things, but in my experience people rarely respond well to direct commands.

In fact a lot of people will resent when someone gives them orders, and possibly make them feel as if they haven't done enough. I mean what is more appealing to you.

"Just take massive action!"

or

"Now that you've taken the time to increase your skill set, how can you apply this to your current circumstances?"

If someone is leads themself to an answer, they seem a lot more willing to embrace it.

These are just my thoughts, I'm curious what other people have to say.
#action #screw
  • Profile picture of the author kin_lau
    Great Post !

    I think the "take action" applies to when you already know what to do and procrastinate the action. Then "take action" will make perfect sense.

    If someone don't konw what action to take, then "take action" to learn what action to take. It's still require someone getting off their butt and do whatever they needed to.

    It is much better to take so sort of action instead of just "Thinking" all the time.

    When I'm putting things off, I tell myself " Do It Now", and I repeat the phrase until have the strength to do the work. Hope that could help someone.
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  • Profile picture of the author kiddi
    Well people have got to know what is a good action to take, I don't think anyone would be telling people to do things just for the sake of doing them
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  • Profile picture of the author D111
    I think that "take action" is just a simple way of saying you have to do something or do something differently, not a order. I've heard it before and never felt like it was an order. It's just an over used catch phrase is all.
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    • Profile picture of the author Orator
      Originally Posted by kin_lau View Post

      Great Post !

      I think the "take action" applies to when you already know what to do and procrastinate the action. Then "take action" will make perfect sense.

      If someone don't konw what action to take, then "take action" to learn what action to take. It's still require someone getting off their butt and do whatever they needed to.

      It is much better to take so sort of action instead of just "Thinking" all the time.

      When I'm putting things off, I tell myself " Do It Now", and I repeat the phrase until have the strength to do the work. Hope that could help someone.
      I agree that people can tend to over think things, I have a bad habit of doing it myself.

      Originally Posted by kiddi View Post

      Well people have got to know what is a good action to take, I don't think anyone would be telling people to do things just for the sake of doing them
      There are a lot of things people should in theory be doing for themselves. Exercising, budgeting, and a bunch of other very rational ideas that most people never seem to do anyway. Humanity isn't a very rational animal inn my opinion.

      Originally Posted by D111 View Post

      I think that "take action" is just a simple way of saying you have to do something or do something differently, not a order. I've heard it before and never felt like it was an order. It's just an over used catch phrase is all.
      I understand your point, and I agree with the overused part, but I just have never seen at as a useful tool to inspire any kind of action.
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  • Profile picture of the author bensonenterprise
    I enjoyed your post because it was very similiar to some programs I was a part of in the past. You would go on the calls and they would say "now get out there and make it happen!" which is about the same thing as "take action" only thing was I had no idea what that meant so after spending more money than I could afford I learned that in order to "get out there and make it happen" I needed to know how to do that.

    Great thing about taking a step back from it all and reflecting on your experiences is you start to see things for the way they are and the way they can be.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike McAleer
    Yes you must direct someone more than just saying TAKE ACTION. Help that person out more by giving them specifics as to what to take action upon
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      There are a lot of things people should in theory be doing for themselves. Exercising, budgeting, and a bunch of other very rational ideas that most people never seem to do anyway. Humanity isn't a very rational animal inn my opinion.
      Good point - but you can't exercise for someone else or make decision on their spending. If you choose not to exercise or budget, you'll likely end up fat and broke. It's your choice. Some make the choice because they have self discipline - others make it when the money runs out or they can't touch their toes. Either way - eventually they have to DO something for themselves.

      You will see the same people asking the same theoretical questions week after week. "If I do this, will this happen?" "If I build this, will this work" and on and on. They will post "plans" every month but what becomes apparent is all they do is think up plans. If you never work the plan - you have nothing. I think "take action" is advice at times that is made out of frustration to someone who clearly is "thinking about everything" but doing nothing.

      Someone can post a long detailed thread about how to monetize a site and the questions on that thread will go on forever about "what if" and "exactly how did you" and "how many" and "how much can I earn". My favorite is the comment "I'll be watching to see how it goes". Why not try it yourself instead of watching someone else?

      Taking action without first gaining knowledge is useless. Equally useless is absorbing knowledge without ever trying to DO something with what you learned.

      "Take action" is advised by people who don't know what else to say.

      "Take action" is advised by people who know that's what the particular person needs to do.

      In the end, if you don't take action and use what you've learned....it's not others that are screwed.:p

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  • The title caught my attention because this is a standard beef of mine.

    Take action is necessary, but just saying that is so incomplete it's painful. It needs a solid context to be useful and most people who say, "You must take action," do not provide that context. Mostly, they just give you their method. Ironically, that makes their command easy to blow off and useful for procrastinators. (I speak from experience.)



    The Chinese say that the longest journey starts with a single step. I add that the longest journey to nowhere also starts with a single step.

    So it's a good idea to know where you are going as the other half of "take action." And this is not just the tactics given in most reports and methods. This means the big picture in your life.

    The big picture is the context. If you have that, then "take action" makes a lot of sense as encouragement.

    Without the big picture, those words fall on your ears more like a command to spin your wheels.

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    • Profile picture of the author birdman87
      great post.

      that is why it's always so important to begin with the end in mind. think big, have goals that excite and inspire you and have that on the brain every day when you go to 'take action'. it won't require much effort at all to 'take action'.

      the great thing about internet marketing is that with big success, just about anything is possible. with hard work you can earn an asbolute mint, and with outsourcing you can spend very little time every week actually at work.

      Wish I had more time to put into this stuff. I need to take action!! haha
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    • Profile picture of the author QuickPro
      "....the longest journey starts with a single step. I add that the longest journey to nowhere also starts with a single step."

      Very well said...!!
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      • Profile picture of the author Kevin AKA Hubcap
        I think when most people say "take action" they mean on what you already know.

        Many people want the perfect plan. Step by step without the possibility of making mistakes. Problem is--that plan doesn't exist.

        So they continue planning in pursuit of an impossible goal.

        Here's the rub.

        Taking action creates clarity. It allows you to see, based on your own experience, what works and what doesn't work for you and your business.

        Am I saying don't plan. Of course not. Planning is essential. But so is taking action.

        Like Ying and Yang they're two sides of the same coin.
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  • Profile picture of the author YseUp
    I hate the take action mantra.

    Although I now have a better understanding of why it works.

    Trial and error outperforms planning.
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    • Profile picture of the author Orator
      Originally Posted by Paul Barrs View Post

      Some time ago I coined the phrase, "Education without action is for the uneducated."

      By the same token, to agree with you, action without education creates inaction.

      There is no point in telling someone to TAKE ACTION without telling what action to take and how much!

      Those who banter it around like it's the key to lost Inca gold are themselves still in a state of actionable growth. They're on the journey, and sure, they ARE on the way - but they still have a long way to go; signified by the clear fact that they [i]arrogantly assume[/] that others (those they they direct their "take action" at) are at their same level.

      Just because you might know how to do it, doesn't mean others do.

      Paul Barrs
      I agree, without the knowledge to implement a strategy it becomes very hard to do something.

      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      Good point - but you can't exercise for someone else or make decision on their spending. If you choose not to exercise or budget, you'll likely end up fat and broke. It's your choice. Some make the choice because they have self discipline - others make it when the money runs out or they can't touch their toes. Either way - eventually they have to DO something for themselves.

      You will see the same people asking the same theoretical questions week after week. "If I do this, will this happen?" "If I build this, will this work" and on and on. They will post "plans" every month but what becomes apparent is all they do is think up plans. If you never work the plan - you have nothing. I think "take action" is advice at times that is made out of frustration to someone who clearly is "thinking about everything" but doing nothing.

      Someone can post a long detailed thread about how to monetize a site and the questions on that thread will go on forever about "what if" and "exactly how did you" and "how many" and "how much can I earn". My favorite is the comment "I'll be watching to see how it goes". Why not try it yourself instead of watching someone else?

      Taking action without first gaining knowledge is useless. Equally useless is absorbing knowledge without ever trying to DO something with what you learned.

      "Take action" is advised by people who don't know what else to say.

      "Take action" is advised by people who know that's what the particular person needs to do.

      In the end, if you don't take action and use what you've learned....it's not others that are screwed.:p

      kay
      I see what you're saying, but I've never believed that taking action in itself is enough. Those who always take action based on a solid plan will always outperform those who just sort of flail around, no matter how much effort they put into it.

      Originally Posted by Michael Stuart Kelly View Post

      The title caught my attention because this is a standard beef of mine.

      Take action is necessary, but just saying that is so incomplete it's painful. It needs a solid context to be useful and most people who say, "You must take action," do not provide that context. Mostly, they just give you their method. Ironically, that makes their command easy to blow off and useful for procrastinators. (I speak from experience.)



      The Chinese say that the longest journey starts with a single step. I add that the longest journey to nowhere also starts with a single step.

      So it's a good idea to know where you are going as the other half of "take action." And this is not just the tactics given in most reports and methods. This means the big picture in your life.

      The big picture is the context. If you have that, then "take action" makes a lot of sense as encouragement.

      Without the big picture, those words fall on your ears more like a command to spin your wheels.

      Michael
      Agreed.

      Without direction, any action taking is meaningless.

      Originally Posted by birdman87 View Post

      great post.

      that is why it's always so important to begin with the end in mind. think big, have goals that excite and inspire you and have that on the brain every day when you go to 'take action'. it won't require much effort at all to 'take action'.

      the great thing about internet marketing is that with big success, just about anything is possible. with hard work you can earn an absolute mint, and with outsourcing you can spend very little time every week actually at work.

      Wish I had more time to put into this stuff. I need to take action!! haha
      Internet Marketing offers me the chance to be my own boss, and in a few years to even retire if I play my cards right. Then again I went into it with the sole desire for it be the means for which I could pursue my own passions without the hassle of worrying about money. That is the thought behind every move I make, is it bringing me closer to my long term goal.

      Originally Posted by YseUp View Post

      I hate the take action mantra.

      Although I now have a better understanding of why it works.

      Trial and error outperforms planning.
      I disagree.

      Learning from your mistakes, and revising your plan is the best of both worlds.
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    • Profile picture of the author davidlieder
      Originally Posted by YseUp View Post

      Trial and error outperforms planning.
      The fact is, "take action" as you are referring to it is found on most online sales pages and really means "buy this stuff now or you might fail in life", etc.

      So lets separate that from the selfless guru who would give you advice or at least some words of wisdom or even a master plan, and then say "go do it", or like Yoda in Star Wars, "there is no try, only do".

      I know that I was very motivated by Anik Singhal who says "take action" over and over again to ask people to buy his products. But, Anik has proven himself with 32 million dollars in online sales of his own.

      And the reality is that I don't take action. So yes it was annoying to hear it from Anik's videos but I got the point and did something about it.

      Orator, are you saying you don't like people to pressure you in sales presentations, especially if it seems like their motivation is just to make a sale and get some cash from you? Or are you hinting that you have a problem with anyone telling you what to do? Sometimes we need to be told what to do.

      I mean, why are you in this forum anyway? Its not to find a date, its to make money, you said so above in your post. So, if I gave you the master plan, would I have the right in your world (life) to proclaim to you "Take action Orator, take action so you can reach your goal."

      Most of us hate the hard sell where "take action" really means "I don't care one bit about your success, but I would like to scare you and pressure you into taking action right now, that's why I put a big button that says 'take action' down below on this page where you can give me your cash and then I'll go on my way not giving a damn about you."

      I can name 10 reasons why my mind does not want to take action, and I can name 10 other more important reasons why I MUST act as soon as possible.

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  • Profile picture of the author Wizardofwisdom
    I get your point, Orator, I do, but I think you're also missing an important one yourself, if I may be so bold!

    I've always interpreted the "take action" imperative to mean, "have the courage to follow your convictions/dreams/intuition" ... whatever you want to call it. The instruction is intended, I think, to provoke the reader into ending procrastination - a sentiment I'd heartily agree with.

    Life is too short to ponder over every detail. I read a great report by Jason Fladlien a while ago in which he described his "60 second rule" (forgive me Jason if I've misquoted you - this is from memory). His basic premise was, make a decision within sixty seconds.

    That's probably not sound advice when it comes to, say, marriage or which course to pick for University, but it works a treat on whether to try out a new headline, buy a WSO, keep or discard some "junk" mail, create a new product etc.

    I like the "take action" culture - and I totally respect that you had the guts to come out and say what your view of it is. (Or maybe was, by now!)

    Thanks for a thought-provoking post.

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    • Profile picture of the author Orator
      Originally Posted by Wizardofwisdom View Post

      I get your point, Orator, I do, but I think you're also missing an important one yourself, if I may be so bold!

      I've always interpreted the "take action" imperative to mean, "have the courage to follow your convictions/dreams/intuition" ... whatever you want to call it. The instruction is intended, I think, to provoke the reader into ending procrastination - a sentiment I'd heartily agree with.

      Life is too short to ponder over every detail. I read a great report by Jason Fladlien a while ago in which he described his "60 second rule" (forgive me Jason if I've misquoted you - this is from memory). His basic premise was, make a decision within sixty seconds.

      That's probably not sound advice when it comes to, say, marriage or which course to pick for University, but it works a treat on whether to try out a new headline, buy a WSO, keep or discard some "junk" mail, create a new product etc.

      I like the "take action" culture - and I totally respect that you had the guts to come out and say what your view of it is. (Or maybe was, by now!)

      Thanks for a thought-provoking post.

      Trevor.
      I read the same report, and I use that rule myself. The problem is not everyone thinks "take action" could mean follow their dreams, etc. It's so vague that everyone draws different meanings from it. I suppose this might be a good thing for some people, but I prefer details to general statements.

      Anyway thanks for your post!
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  • Profile picture of the author andrea_vk
    Interesting subject. I believe to take action you need to know where you are going, but if you know where you going sometimes the take action refers at, do something give that first step (of course you need to know what the step is or else teh step will be to research and plan).

    Another interpretation is : once you take the first step, or take action then the universe will present you with different opportunities, things will start falling into place. But you need to be commited to your actions then things will work out. The UNiverse or God will help you out. but if you do not do anything, noone will do things for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author J Bold
    Well, frankly, it can be good advice for some. A lot of people already have the knowledge if they would just apply it with consistent and steady action for a month, they would see great results. Sadly, people give up way too easily or try something even just for a few hours and then say it doesn't work and move on to something else. I know, because I've been that guy!

    So, for people like this, "take action" can be good advice, but I agree it is kind of vague advice and in the end you need a lot more than those two words. It has become kind of a annoying mantra around here as it doesn't fit every situation.
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  • Profile picture of the author martin_boyd
    Take action is just the next step in series of steps. You can't just walk up to someone and say "take action". There has to be some precursor to it. Say you've walked someone through the steps of a successful marketing campaign. Take action would then mean it was time to implement it. Without something leading up to the "take action", it's nothing more than a phrase that means nothing really.
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
    This is a valid point.

    I do feel taking action is important though,for your skill set is never developed until you take action for a significant amount of time. Too many sit on the sidelines and even though the generic TA phrase might be agitating it does ring true.

    Thanks for sharing your insight.

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  • Profile picture of the author kianhowe
    If you have an idea that has been lingering in your mind for some time. Write a plan on how to execute it. And the next step is obvious isn't it? Execute your plan. Thats taking action
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  • I was not going to post on this again, but something kept nagging at me. I finally discovered what it was when I bumped into Maslow's 4 stages of learning once again just now. They are particularly applicable to taking action. For those who don't know, here they are.

    Maslow's 4 stages of learning

    1. Unconscious incompetence
    2. Conscious incompetence
    3. Conscious competence
    4. Unconscious competence

    To take some liberties with the standard descriptions, here is how these stages work for taking action:

    1. Unconscious incompetence - We don't know what to do and we don't know how to do any of the actions of a specific method.

    2. Conscious incompetence - We know what to do, but we don't know how to do it--or it's really hard to do, requires a lot of focus, and we will still probably screw it up. And we know it.

    3. Conscious competence - We know what to do and we know how to do it, but we need to make an effort to concentrate to get it right.

    4. Unconscious competence - We not only know what to do, we can do it in our sleep. We usually do it without even thinking about it.

    So why should anyone want to take action after reading a method? Obviously to make money or whatever, but that's a better question than appears. What does a person expect to gain with an action? Download cash to his hard disk? That's not real, but I bet you that's close to what's in the mind of a lot of newbies.

    If you look at the categories, what can be gained from an action will depend greatly on what the person can do, not just on what he/she wants to do.

    I believe the first action people should take on going through any new method should be to evaluate themselves according to these learning categories. Then they can decide what they can and should do.

    Here are some actions I see that are appropriate:

    1. Unconscious incompetence - Believe it or not, some people breeze through methods and still don't have a clue about a lot of basic stuff. These people will gain the most at this stage by repeating the method or studying more. If they try to implement what they just saw, they will flop miserably. and that will cause many to give up. They still need to learn what they need to do and maybe why they need to do it.

    2. Conscious incompetence - This will be most people after going through a new method.

    I strongly believe that play should be involved at this stage. Maybe not 100% play, but a good part. These people need to get comfortable with programs, sites, writing texts, planning videos, recording or whatever the method they went through requires. More often than not (especially for newbies), they have not worked before with many of the resources in a method.

    Just because they learned about what to do from a method and saw some instructions, that doesn't mean they can do it when they want to. The action they need to do is literally screw up--and screw up some more--for each skill they need until they start getting those skills down.

    It's a lot easier to accept screwing up if you are playing than if you are doing something for real. Who likes to look foolish? But part of the actions should be doing stuff for real, too. After all, who doesn't like money? And there's a little secret almost nobody says. People respect doers more than talkers, even when the doers screw up. Just by doing something, you automatically get some respect. If all you do is screw up, though... that's another matter. So play is important until you get a handle on things.

    After the screwing up starts going away, another main action a person needs to do at this stage is to repeat and repeat and repeat. This goes for each skill. Sometimes this is called practice. The only way to make something become easy to to repeat it. I wish there were another way, but there isn't.

    3. Conscious competence - For people at this level, it's a no-brainer and, I believe, not much of a problem unless the person is lazy. The action here is to get the material up and make money. Another action that would gain this person a lot is focused practice on the skills that are still not second nature.

    4. Unconscious competence - Obviously, action at this stage is already routine. You just do it, whatever it is.

    From the learning-to-doing angle, when someone says, "What I just presented to you will not do you any good unless you take action--YOU MUST TAKE ACTION!!!" I believe this should be qualified and/or elaborated on by something like the above. Maybe some suggested practice steps for the first couple of categories. And maybe some games or play.

    I don't believe in encouraging a totally incompetent person to push a button and get it done when all he is going to do--all he can do at that moment--is run into a brick wall if he tries.

    I think this is the part that irritates me when I hear the phrase "you must take action" tossed out as a magic solution to making it all work. It's not the call to take action that's wrong. It's the oversimplified call to take action.

    You don't tell someone on the edge of a cliff that he must take action if he doesn't even know he's near one. If he takes the wrong action, it's all over.

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    • Profile picture of the author AngieDixon
      [QUOTE=Michael Stuart Kelly;3405588]I was not going to post on this again, but something kept nagging at me. I finally discovered what it was when I bumped into Maslow's 4 stages of learning once again just now. They are particularly applicable to taking action. For those who don't know, here they are.

      Maslow's 4 stages of learning

      1. Unconscious incompetence
      2. Conscious incompetence
      3. Conscious competence
      4. Unconscious competence

      Michael, thanks for putting this so well.

      Sure, some people say "take action!" in a mindless way.

      Sure, some people say it to get you to buy THEIR product and don't care whether you get anything out of it.

      AND, some people say "SCREW YOU!" because they want the solution handed to them and don't want to do the work involved to get the results they want.

      It's not as simple as some people would like it to be, nor as complicated as some people make it. Michael, your post explained things much more concisely than I can so I'll shut up, but I appreciate your invocation of Maslow. I refer to his work a lot in my own work.

      I think he pretty much nailed it.
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  • Profile picture of the author rbates
    I have to agree somewhat that the "Take Action" thing has become cliche'd.
    It is also a very vague statement that, unless there is some type of direction
    that is placed next to it, will leave a person floundering about.

    If a person is motivated, the telling them to "Take Action" should not be necessary.
    If a person spends money to learn something (i.e. internet marketing), and then just
    sits around and does nothing, then they really did not want to do the thing in the first place, and telling them to do something (take action) is a waste of time anyway.

    "Lights, camera, action" - "It's a take!"
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  • Profile picture of the author fathertime
    Really good post. Action is needed for anything to materialize, and without it, you just have a bunch of thoughts and plans. Action is the underlining answer in any achievement. Get it? Now go get it!
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  • Profile picture of the author windowblinds
    Because Action makes Inspiration, and people have to be yelled sometime to take action instead of procrastinating about it.
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  • Paul,

    I like your video. You present well, too. (I'm an American, so I found your accent charming.)

    I also like your idea of making new knowledge sticky in your mind by teaching it immediately after learning it. I've done this a lot, but not ever as a purposeful technique for easier learning.

    I do have one caveat about your formulation, though. I wouldn't go so far as to say that it gives you unconscious competence as if it were some kind of shortcut. I used to be a professional classical musician and I needed long hours of practice to gain my unconscious competence. Granted, teaching did help with my own learning, but I also needed all those hours of focused practice and performance.

    If you take a look at Internet marketers who pop up one site after another--and promote them--and have been doing so for years, I have no doubt their minds run on autopilot much of the time. But I bet this was not so during their first year or years.

    Malcolm Gladwell (in Outliers) mentioned that you need about 10,000 hours of focused action before you become world-class great at something. I imagine unconscious competence comes only from about a hundred hours or so, not from all 10,000, but I'm only guessing. It really depends on the complexity of the skill you want to automate in your mind.

    Back to your idea of teaching immediately after learning, you might have a good little product here if you elaborate on it a bit. You could go through a simple money-making system to work on so your clients would see some cash at the end--which is always a good motivator.

    For example, make an imaginary simple 2-3 product blog with, say, 3 traffic sources as the target structure to focus on getting done. (Obviously, the student could expand on it later if he/she wishes.) Then here are some of the skills you could walk newbies through, but also showing them how to teach this to others--say with a second blog or a Facebook account or something where they post their own lessons (say, to an imaginary student) as they go along:

    How to choose a niche.
    How to choose products (and maybe Adsense).
    How to choose keywords and how to use them.
    How to set up a blog.
    How to place advertisements and affiliate links within the content.
    Traffic source 1 (maybe article marketing)
    Traffic source 2 (maybe SEO)
    Traffic source 3 (maybe social networking)

    If you do something like this, sell it as a magic bullet (to help get it sold) and include a magic bullet of some sort at the beginning (to fulfill the promise), but follow it up with this learning stuff the newbie really needs, I suspect it would go over well. I'm basing my judgment more on common sense than anything else. It's just a good idea and I believe success starts with good ideas.

    Choosing such a magic bullet is tricky if it is wrong, but this is easy to get right. Obviously, a newbie would not have the competence to make the magic bullet work immediately--that goes for all magic bullets, but you could make it so he would be able to use it once he gained the competence that you end up teaching him. Keeping to that standard keeps it honest, sot it's win-win all around.

    BUT YOU MUST TAKE ACTION!!!



    Michael

    PS - I wrote this thinking out loud, but, on reflection, I like the idea so much I might do something similar myself.
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  • Profile picture of the author b.super13
    You make a very good point. I often tell people to take action on something specific, such as what I just emailed to them or what they just learned.

    I think I'm going to reword my emails now. I'm going to say take what you read and make an action plan, not "take action".

    So, if I email my list about how to do ad swaps, which I do quite often. Now I'll say, ok, make a plan like this...

    Day 1 - buy autoresponder
    Day 2 - set up squeeze page
    Day 3 - write report/video/ecourse to give away at squeeze page
    Day 4 - create or buy PLR for the OTO
    Day 5 - create a traffic plan to start getting traffic to squeeze page

    That is much more clear than take action. So people really should say - "create and action plan and work through it until you have finished it"
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  • Profile picture of the author MeelisM
    I think it's time to stop browsing and writing ranting posts on the forum and start taking some action.
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  • Profile picture of the author SonnyAmaama
    Will I would like to break it down like how my business professor did to me. She said sonny its very simple. Its 20% thinking of the idea, 30% of planning the idea out, and 50% performing actions so the idea can come to life.

    Hope that could help some one as it did for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author alcymart
    Planning of course. Consistency as for taking action. Do a little something every day and look back at the accomplishments you made after just a week and you'll be surprised!

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    • Profile picture of the author Nick Garcia
      I like this post! But I feel a bit differently. A lot of people learning Internet Marketing who aren't making any money are usually just reading and learning online while taking very little action. They'll post a blog post and it'll take 1 and a half hours, then 3 days later drop a few backlinks.

      The "Take Action" thing works great for those people, because they really are going about things slowly or not at all. They just read...and learn...and read...and learn. Sure, they could tell you how to make a successful site. But did they do it? Surprisingly, there are a lot of people who know how who just plain don't do anything.

      But I think you have a great point about how it really isn't about just "taking action". You have to take the right action. And you have to constantly or frequently improve the process that you base your actions on so that your time is more leveraged.

      Nick
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  • Profile picture of the author MarksExtra
    Ya, the whole "take action" does get old but seriously, for newcomers who are in the learning stages, taking action is important. So many times I think people just get consumed with reading these forums that they don't spend 8 hours doing the chores to make things happen.
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  • Profile picture of the author ScottieScott
    I think the term 'take action' needs to be an individual thing. For example, if you want to be a pro tennis player, and you have never picked up a tennis racket, I will tell you to 'take action', and don't just wish that one day you will be a pro tennis player.

    The action you need to take at this point is not going onto the court and hitting a ball, but rather it will be deciding a timeline, hiring a tennis coach, learning the rules of tennis, etc. All this before you even pick up a racket. This is action, but isn't practicing tennis, or entering tournaments.

    The point is, 'take action' may mean something as simple as figuring out what you need to do in order to reach your goal.

    The OP says that 'take action' is too vague, but if I am telling you to take action, it may mean that I have no idea what you already know. It is up to you to decide what to work on, and again, action may be getting to the point where you have 'steps' to work on, i.e. deciding on a business model.

    I used to get ticked when I heard people say 'take action' and you will succeed, but now I understand. Maybe the reason you don't know what action you need to take and it is too vague, is because you aren't sure what you really want, and you are looking for someone to decide your business model for you.

    If you know what you want, and know where you are now, the action to take is the actions that will get you what you want. Don't know what those actions are, hmmmm, well then your first 'take action' assignment, is to find out what actions you want to take to reach your goal.

    I know this still sounds vague, but lets say that your goal is to make $50/day. There are about 1,000 different ways to reach that goal, and information on every one of them. Pick one, stick to it, evaluate progress, make adjustments as needed.

    1. Decide what you want
    2. Choose a plan to get what you want - one that you feel you can execute.
    3. Start doing the steps required of the plan
    4. Evaluate
    5. Make Adjustments
    6. Reach your goal, and set a new one.

    Flame me if you want to - this is just my opinion.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tim Wright
    Orator brings up a very good point and has obviously stirred up a good discussion on the whole topic of "taking action." I agree that the "Why" behind doing something is and always has been more important than the "what" or "how." My frustration with a lot of the "take action" evangelists is that they pump us up with a huge "why" but end up leaving us a bit bewildered or overwhelmed when it comes to the "whats" and "hows."

    On the other hand, I think there are too many "professional students" who are caught up in a cycle of "learning" without ever getting around to the "doing."

    In the end, you need to take action on what you're learning or you're just going to stay where you are. It's a decision that everyone needs to make for themselves. Having a coach or a mentor is incredibly helpful, but they can't (and shouldn't) do the work for you. That part is up to you.

    Good conversation on an important topic. Thanks for the post!

    Tim
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  • Profile picture of the author jewin
    In the end, the "why" needs to come from the individual. And it needs to be a big "WHY". You need a reason to get up every day, night, weekend, whenever you can to make progress.

    Going back to the original post though, something struck me. The mantra of "take action" is an important one and a signal to newbies to do more than just read blogs and purchase WSOs without actually following through and doing something with what they've learned. If you're asking "why" when someone says "take action", you need to go back to the drawing board and figure out why you're here (i.e. WF) in the first place.
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  • Profile picture of the author nuruddeen710
    "Take action" can be so many thing... It literally means "do something" "Don't just sit on your butt dreaming". Now when we talk about IM, most of the people starting out will purchase multiple ebooks and courses without taking any action whatsoever. What they need to do now is to take action.
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    • Profile picture of the author BobTheFarmer
      I have never been a fan of "take action" as the last step for succeeding. Honestly, taking action is the first step, and usually if you're reading something that is attempting to teach you how to create success, you've kinda already taken the action!

      I like to teach more of a "finish what you start" because if you can set a clear objective, plan out how to achieve the adjective, and then finish the plan, then technically you've achieved a level of success.
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      • Profile picture of the author jewin
        Very good point, Bob. Very relevant, because in the world of IM, newbs are constantly bombarded with new WSO's, new Google algo changes and XYZ 'guru' giving them new advice. You can't expect success if you go hopping from one tactic to another every week. You need to stay the course and see things through to the end.

        Originally Posted by BobTheFarmer View Post

        I like to teach more of a "finish what you start" because if you can set a clear objective, plan out how to achieve the adjective, and then finish the plan, then technically you've achieved a level of success.
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  • Profile picture of the author Imwarriormarc
    "taking action" is the most important thing in IM, and it's one of the main reasons why most people fail, simple logic. You can learn all you want from ebooks and videos, but you can only truly learn when you take action. You reap what you sow. When you put in the effort, then can you earn something back.

    But due to it's importance, the phrase has become so overused now that it doesn't really have much effect on most people.
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  • Profile picture of the author chrisalbright
    I came across this quote a few months ago, and I think it really really encapsulates the whole concept:

    "In any moment of decision, the best thing you can do is the right thing; the next best thing is the wrong thing; and the worst thing you can do is nothing"

    Teddy Roosevelt
    What it means to me is that in almost every case, doing anything is better than doing nothing. When you do nothing, there is no possibility. But with activity comes the possibility of accomplishment. Even if the activity is seemingly random, un-related or counter intuitive.

    Granted, I think for most of us, when we "take action" can do so with a good idea of just what action makes the most sense - instead of doing something randomly, but even random action has the possibility that inaction lacks.

    While I definitely agree that the simple instruction to "take action" is not quite inspiring - it is good advice for those who listen, and do.
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  • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
    The biggest problem I see on this forum is people trying to get information non stop. They ask all these questions, spend hours and hours on reading, but they aren't taking action. Meaning, they are putting the knowledge to use. Taking action, is making things happen. Don't be passive about it.
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  • Profile picture of the author JagSEO
    Because Action creates Inspiration, Don't wait for Inspiration to take action. Think Less Do more and just love what you do.
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  • Profile picture of the author Max Stryker
    i think taking actions is far better than sitting in a couch waiting for things to happen
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  • Profile picture of the author shawn horton
    Take action depending on the conversation can mean many different things to many different people,hearing the phrase take action could be sometimes just what the dr. ordered,there is no right or wrong answer its all in how you take it and what it means to you
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  • Angie,

    I just saw this.

    I'm glad you got value from my post and I appreciate your kind words.

    I've been doing a lot of thinking recently about learning. Maslow is definitely one of the giants whose shoulders we all need to stand on.

    Michael
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