Don't think I can do it

by Breezy1 Banned
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First off I just wanted to say that all of you guys are a great support system, you guys always provide great motivation. Unfortunately I probably will not be around much longer due to the simple fact that I recently realized that I do not possess the aptitude to come of with viable way to make this business work, IM is not for everyone, so I guess I'll have to stick to my 8-9 job working for the man at cisco. To all the successful warriors that made it especially the ones who are still in HS, all i have to say to you guys is congrats. Ill be popping my head in and out from time to time to read all of your success stories.
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      Originally Posted by gmscreative View Post

      Don't give up! I think the biggest thing people don't realise is that it takes time. We're living in a society that wants everything now and they want it extreme. It just doesn't happen that way (well, rarely) with internet marketing.

      Keep going mate. It'll start happening for you.
      Its pretty sad that I am a 23 year old network engineer but unable to process a viable plan that actually makes sense. You have to be VERY! creative to profit from this business, in some cases you have to actually network, and thats one thing I can not and will not ever be able to do, I am very anti-social. This business is way to saturated, and the people who are making millions are always 10 steps ahead of the rest of the crowd. This is basically a money sink because you have to invest thousands of dollars to even find an idea that may or may not work. In my opinion there are less risk laying next to a black mamba snake. btw thanks for the support.
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          Originally Posted by gmscreative View Post

          Ok...let's do it this way. What are you good at? What do you like doing? Create yourself a shortlist and I'll be happy to give you some ideas of areas you can focus on.

          You don't have to create websites full of content to be a success in internet marketing. Maybe you're a good writer and you could write eBooks. Maybe you're a good editor and you could edit other people's content. Maybe you know what makes a good ad and you could make Google Ads packages.

          Start by getting your strengths and interests down.
          I am one of those people who have no talents, no skills, no strengths, just 100% pure weaknesses. I hear it all the time people tell me "your really smart" well they obviously they must be frequently inhaling through a glass pipe. I know how my brain works, they don't. I'm not depressed, frustrated or upset but I just know no matter how much effort I put in to anything, I will never be good at it. Trust me when I say this, I've tried. My foresight is perfect.
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            Originally Posted by Breezy1 View Post

            I am one of those people who have no talents, no skills, no strengths, just 100% pure weaknesses. I hear it all the time people tell me "your really smart" well they obviously they must be frequently inhaling through a glass pipe. I know how my brain works, they don't. I'm not depressed, frustrated or upset but I just know no matter how much effort I put in to anything, I will never be good at it. Trust me when I say this, I've tried. My foresight is perfect.
            Sir we need to chat....this sounds like depression.
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            • Profile picture of the author mackyinc
              This is an inspiring thread. Breezy please take to heart what has been written here. I can assure that is you find one area you really like and give as much time as you can you will succeed. You can learn enough here for free to succeed. By the way I know what is involved in being a network engineer. There is no way you are not smart.

              Someone considered on of the most intelligent people ever said " I am not that smart I just stick with a problem longer than everyone else"

              Albert Einstein said that.
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            You most definitely are depressed. Get some help. Soon. Good Luck.
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      • Profile picture of the author garben2011
        Originally Posted by Breezy1 View Post

        Its pretty sad that I am a 23 year old network engineer but unable to process a viable plan that actually makes sense.
        Hey there,

        It's not that sad really and quite common. Sometimes I think people who have no computer skills actually have it easier than those of us who are in IT. I don't know why really but I think perhaps we over-think things and tend to complicate matters. Our minds our more technical in nature. Logic and such. And so much of the things marketers do seem like smoke & mirrors -- all fluff and no substance and those things are difficult for people like us to relate to. I know for most of my life I actually hated marketers thinking they were all just a bunch of con artists. ha ha

        Also, it is not so simple. People will tell you to just find some plan and stick with it. Well, now that is the whole problem isn't it? Where is this plan? Hell, I have tried numerous methods and products over the years and have never found any product or system that truly works outside of SBI that is. I've tried the One Week Marketing Plan. Did nothing for me. I tried Bum Marketing did nothing for me. I tried the Deadbeat Super Affiliate method was another waste of time. Sure I have plenty of Squidoo lens and websites scattered around and through sheer number of them all I make money online but as far as having a concrete system that I know will actually work I do not have that yet and I started doing this stuff back in 2004. Now, I do know many things that do not work. And I know bits and pieces that do work... to a degree. But as for a whole process from start to finish. I've never seen one yet that works.

        And I don't say this to discourage you even further I am just saying it is not like you are the only person to not reach great success and not find or develop a process that works again and again. I honestly don't think there is one. I know it seems like tons of people claim they do have such a system and they can duplicate it over and over again but if that is true then why is it that when the rest of the people buy those products and systems it never works?

        So, I think a lot of it is simply doing and doing and doing and one out of x times you get lucky. Do it enough times and you get lucky enough times you make good money.


        Originally Posted by Breezy1 View Post

        You have to be VERY! creative to profit from this business, in some cases you have to actually network, and thats one thing I can not and will not ever be able to do, I am very anti-social.
        Networking comes in many forms. You are networking now in a sense right here in this forum discussion.


        Originally Posted by Breezy1 View Post

        This business is way to saturated, and the people who are making millions are always 10 steps ahead of the rest of the crowd. This is basically a money sink because you have to invest thousands of dollars to even find an idea that may or may not work. In my opinion there are less risk laying next to a black mamba snake.
        Ha ha ha @ the black mamba snake part.

        I understand what you are saying. There are lots of smoke and mirrors it seems. So many people selling the dream. Every day someone pitches a new product claiming it is the breakthrough you have been looking for. You spend the money, put in the time and you see results that are like at worst 1/10,000th to at best 1/1,000th of what the product creator was "selling" you on. At least that has been my experience. But then I think this is a case of like the old California Gold Rush where the people who made the most money were the people selling the picks, shovels and gold pans to the prospectors. They were the ones who actually got rich and they would use the rare example of some average joe who actually found gold to keep that dream alive so they could sell more picks, shovels and gold pans and such.

        But, I think you and I also know it is obviously possible. I mean if we contracted out enough work to build say 1,000 websites I think it is safe to say we would actually make $5,000 to $10,000 per month. Right? So, looking at it that way... it is certainly possible.

        I'm not saying we actually have to do that.... make 1,000 websites... I am just saying if we look at a worst case scenario of how to make this online income thing work... building 1,000 websites with say 20 to 50 pages each... well I think that would certainly work.
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      • Profile picture of the author Barry Unruh
        Originally Posted by Breezy1 View Post

        Its pretty sad that I am a 23 year old network engineer but unable to process a viable plan that actually makes sense. You have to be VERY! creative to profit from this business, in some cases you have to actually network, and thats one thing I can not and will not ever be able to do, I am very anti-social.
        I'm really confused.

        I was a network engineer for 20 years and I cannot remember a single project I worked on which did not require a viable plan, being VERY creative to solve problems, and networking with clients who used the network.

        I believe your excuses are going to cause you just as many challenges in moving forward in your chosen career.

        On the anti-social issue, are you talking about not wanting to sit down with people in person, or not even socialize via online media? There are very successful internet marketers who live almost like hermits except for their online persona.

        I'm guessing your bigger issue is proper market selection. Why don't you forget about making money for a while and focus on having fun creating an interesting and informative blog, guide, or report. Don't even think about monetizing for now, just create something you would find highly useful to share with people who have similar interests. (Even other anti-social people.)

        Once you start getting into a creative and helpful mental mindset you can choose whether you want to slowly start monetizing or not. It is not like YOU MUST MAKE MONEY NOW, you have a career and can PLAY for a while.

        Relax, have fun, and see where your play leads you...
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  • Profile picture of the author erealmz
    Yeah seriously... don't quit. Do you know how freakin rich I would be right now if I hadn't given up on the many ideas I started working on years ago?

    Giving up only delays you. You have it in you to do whatever it is you want to do. Otherwise, you wouldn't have given it a try in the first place. If you give up now, you will one day come back full of motivation and wanting to do it all over again. When you do, you will say that same thing I always say "Damn... I should have kept doing what I was doing years ago."

    Just keep doing it. Forget results. Forget the money. Forget all that. Just work on whatever it is you are trying to achieve and if you endure and keep with it, you WILL make some stupid money from your efforts.
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      Originally Posted by erealmz View Post

      Yeah seriously... don't quit. Do you know how freakin rich I would be right now if I hadn't given up on the many ideas I started working on years ago?

      Giving up only delays you. You have it in you to do whatever it is you want to do. Otherwise, you wouldn't have given it a try in the first place. If you give up now, you will one day come back full of motivation and wanting to do it all over again. When you do, you will say that same thing I always say "Damn... I should have kept doing what I was doing years ago."

      Just keep doing it. Forget results. Forget the money. Forget all that. Just work on whatever it is you are trying to achieve and if you endure and keep with it, you WILL make some stupid money from your efforts.
      Everyone tells me not to give up. But there is no way in hell I can come up with an idea that works. Every idea that I thought would work has always had a major flaw in it. For example I've been working on an idea seo, but there is always that one big flaw that always leads to those infamous what if's. I can't just keep simply throwing away money on something that will not work.
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      • Profile picture of the author erealmz
        Yeah I get tons of "what-ifs" with all my projects. That is usually the reason I give up on them. But this time around, I have conquered all doubt. I have come to accept the reality that I will NEVER make it in a 9-5 corporate world.... EVER!!!

        If I don't make money with my ideas, I will never make money. Plain and simple.

        I feel stressed out when things dont work for me. I come very close to giving up. Just today I decided to give up on one way of doing something after I spent over $200 on it. Now all that money went to waste but at least I got the experience from it and I have not given up on my project all together.

        I am starting from scratch. I am taking a different approach. If this one doesn't work, I will try again from a different angle. If all else fails, I am backed by many more lucrative ideas and I know that at least one (If not most) will soon make me very stupid rich.

        If you don't think you can do this, then that will be your reality and you will never do it. If you can let go of that and just know that no matter what, you do have what it takes, you will make it. Trust me. That is the law of attraction. Whether you believe it or not, it is real and it's what separates the rich from the poor.
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  • Profile picture of the author Wizardofwisdom
    Breezy, Breezy, Breezy ... listen okay? Just take a deep breath and listen.

    First off, you wouldn't have posted such a message - especially on the WF and definitely not in the Mind, Body, Spirit section if that wasn't a cry from the heart for help. So listen ... I am also someone who thought I can't do it.

    As I live in the UK I had to send in my tax accounts a couple of months ago. As I went through the figures, I was astonished to find I had turned over close to $20k last year. Okay, there wasn't a huge profit and I still have a day job, but what that means is people are buying my stuff.

    I'm not a guru. I write self help stuff and I put up websites and then I write my own sales copy and then I try to figure out ways to get some traffic and then ... blah, blah, blah.

    I joined this incredible forum because here is where the people who know how to tinker with the sales copy, get the traffic, pull the crowds, (even a little one), hang out.

    I try to give something back from time to time - like now - because these folks mean something to me. Including you.

    Okay, so now I'm going to put on my self help hat. Ready?

    Stop beating yourself up with negative beliefs! You've told yourself it's "sad that you're a 23 year old ... who can't ... " You've told yourself you have to be VERY creative to make it here, (so you're not?) ... Even the headline of your post is a negative belief.

    The joy of being human is that you can choose what to believe.

    First, change your body language. Do it right now. I'm serious! Sit up, take a deep breath and S-M-I-L-E!!!

    Yep, for no reason ... just grin a big toothy grin! (Why? Because it's IMPOSSIBLE to feel bad while you do that).

    Okay ... now don't slump back ... think of a time - any time - when you thought you weren't going to make it and you pulled through. Might have been crossing the street, could've been taking an exam ... could be anything.

    Think of times when you've been resourceful. Did you ever once allow yourself to think, "Don't think I can do it..." in those moments?

    Think of times when you've been determined ... unstoppable even. Would you have dared to say, even to yourself, "isn't it sad that I'm only a ... "

    NEVER DO THAT TO YOURSELF!

    Let me tell you a true story.

    In October 2008 a major source of my income started drying up. It dropped to around a third of what it had been for the previous eight years and it didn't look like it was going to pick up again.

    My wife and I had the conversation you'd expect a couple to have during that time. It began with, "What are we going to do?"

    We had that conversation several times over about three days.

    On the third day I said to her, "Honey, you know what? We're asking the wrong question!"

    She of course wanted to know what I thought we ought to ask.

    I said, "We need to start with asking how we're going to be." And I explained, "Right now, we're coming from a place of worry and even fear. If we continue down this road that'll turn into panic. And in those states we will never come up with an answer."
    (Did you know that Einstein said that you can never solve a problem in the same frame of mind that created it? Yep, Einstein!)
    So my wife asked me how I thought we should be. And I said, "Resourceful."

    And then I thought about times when I'd been smart or creative - even if it was a quick one-liner at a party - and I put my body in that physiology and I smiled - a big grin for no reason.

    As I did that a new question entered my head. It had a completely different feel to it than when I was worrying that there was no way out. The question was, "How else could I bring in money?"

    And just as soon as I thought the question, an answer popped into my brain: I could write.

    Now, I've already told you I write a lot of my own stuff, but I'd never thought of writing for other people before. So that evening I opened an account on elance.com and put my writer's profile up there. I think it cost me around nine bucks.

    In the morning - I kid you not - I had a contract for a thousand dollars.

    Now, Breezy, that doesn't make me more creative than you - it just makes us different. You'll have your own resourcefulness. Allow it! Your uniqueness is precious, so find a way to express it!

    Before I close, I'm going to give you the most important piece of practical advice I've ever had about how to do IM. I've heard it from all over the place and from people who really seem to know what they're doing online, and who've genuinely made it. I'm telling you all of that up front because I can also tell you it took me AGES before I would listen to it. Even now, I struggle at times.

    So here it is: Find one method you like and stick to it like glue until it starts working.

    It doesn't matter if it's article marketing or PPC or CPA or SEO or ... you name it - they ALL work - but not if you tinker and move on.

    Finally, let me say this because no one else in this thread seems to have, including you.

    If you truly wanted to give up you'd have done it. You wouldn't have bothered to post a thread on WF. By doing that very act you have shown that you are hanging in there - and I can tell you this:

    On this forum at least, you are among friends. Trust them, (including me!), and above all, trust yourself.

    You have far more inside you than you could ever possibly know.

    Surprise yourself.

    Take care and good luck!

    Trevor.
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    • Profile picture of the author hari12345
      Originally Posted by Wizardofwisdom View Post

      Breezy, Breezy, Breezy ... listen okay? Just take a deep breath and listen.

      First off, you wouldn't have posted such a message - especially on the WF and definitely not in the Mind, Body, Spirit section if that wasn't a cry from the heart for help. So listen ... I am also someone who thought I can't do it.

      As I live in the UK I had to send in my tax accounts a couple of months ago. As I went through the figures, I was astonished to find I had turned over close to $20k last year. Okay, there wasn't a huge profit and I still have a day job, but what that means is people are buying my stuff.

      I'm not a guru. I write self help stuff and I put up websites and then I write my own sales copy and then I try to figure out ways to get some traffic and then ... blah, blah, blah.

      I joined this incredible forum because here is where the people who know how to tinker with the sales copy, get the traffic, pull the crowds, (even a little one), hang out.

      I try to give something back from time to time - like now - because these folks mean something to me. Including you.

      Okay, so now I'm going to put on my self help hat. Ready?

      Stop beating yourself up with negative beliefs! You've told yourself it's "sad that you're a 23 year old ... who can't ... " You've told yourself you have to be VERY creative to make it here, (so you're not?) ... Even the headline of your post is a negative belief.

      The joy of being human is that you can choose what to believe.

      First, change your body language. Do it right now. I'm serious! Sit up, take a deep breath and S-M-I-L-E!!!

      Yep, for no reason ... just grin a big toothy grin! (Why? Because it's IMPOSSIBLE to feel bad while you do that).

      Okay ... now don't slump back ... think of a time - any time - when you thought you weren't going to make it and you pulled through. Might have been crossing the street, could've been taking an exam ... could be anything.

      Think of times when you've been resourceful. Did you ever once allow yourself to think, "Don't think I can do it..." in those moments?

      Think of times when you've been determined ... unstoppable even. Would you have dared to say, even to yourself, "isn't it sad that I'm only a ... "

      NEVER DO THAT TO YOURSELF!

      Let me tell you a true story.

      In October 2008 a major source of my income started drying up. It dropped to around a third of what it had been for the previous eight years and it didn't look like it was going to pick up again.

      My wife and I had the conversation you'd expect a couple to have during that time. It began with, "What are we going to do?"

      We had that conversation several times over about three days.

      On the third day I said to her, "Honey, you know what? We're asking the wrong question!"

      She of course wanted to know what I thought we ought to ask.

      I said, "We need to start with asking how we're going to be." And I explained, "Right now, we're coming from a place of worry and even fear. If we continue down this road that'll turn into panic. And in those states we will never come up with an answer."
      (Did you know that Einstein said that you can never solve a problem in the same frame of mind that created it? Yep, Einstein!)
      So my wife asked me how I thought we should be. And I said, "Resourceful."

      And then I thought about times when I'd been smart or creative - even if it was a quick one-liner at a party - and I put my body in that physiology and I smiled - a big grin for no reason.

      As I did that a new question entered my head. It had a completely different feel to it than when I was worrying that there was no way out. The question was, "How else could I bring in money?"

      And just as soon as I thought the question, an answer popped into my brain: I could write.

      Now, I've already told you I write a lot of my own stuff, but I'd never thought of writing for other people before. So that evening I opened an account on elance.com and put my writer's profile up there. I think it cost me around nine bucks.

      In the morning - I kid you not - I had a contract for a thousand dollars.

      Now, Breezy, that doesn't make me more creative than you - it just makes us different. You'll have your own resourcefulness. Allow it! Your uniqueness is precious, so find a way to express it!

      Before I close, I'm going to give you the most important piece of practical advice I've ever had about how to do IM. I've heard it from all over the place and from people who really seem to know what they're doing online, and who've genuinely made it. I'm telling you all of that up front because I can also tell you it took me AGES before I would listen to it. Even now, I struggle at times.

      So here it is: Find one method you like and stick to it like glue until it starts working.

      It doesn't matter if it's article marketing or PPC or CPA or SEO or ... you name it - they ALL work - but not if you tinker and move on.

      Finally, let me say this because no one else in this thread seems to have, including you.

      If you truly wanted to give up you'd have done it. You wouldn't have bothered to post a thread on WF. By doing that very act you have shown that you are hanging in there - and I can tell you this:

      On this forum at least, you are among friends. Trust them, (including me!), and above all, trust yourself.

      You have far more inside you than you could ever possibly know.

      Surprise yourself.

      Take care and good luck!

      Trevor.
      Hey Breezy this should keep you in IM man.......this is warrior forum we should not quit that easily......after coming to this forum only i decided to create a website for adsense......and then made keyword research and i finally came up with a three word keyword......its results were 144,400,000...at starting i thought i have selected wrong keyword because of its high competition and then i entered the SEO section and i brought it to number one in google first page within a month and what beauty is i have never spent a dollar to do that everything was an organic SEO.....now my work is to find a way to monitize it.........all of them here are your friends you ask them......they will guide you...they will motivate you,......they will inspire you......they will never ever let you down man....

      COME on BREEZY This is warrior forum..... come on you can make it.......
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  • Profile picture of the author JagSEO
    I think a lot of things are going on right now especially pressures from society and from his peers, he has to make money now because if not he is far behind and people will criticize him hard enough he will really feel depressed.
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    • Profile picture of the author erealmz
      Originally Posted by JagSEO View Post

      I think a lot of things are going on right now especially pressures from society and from his peers, he has to make money now because if not he is far behind and people will criticize him hard enough he will really feel depressed.
      Take it from someone who is currently jobless and living on the streets, I know what that's like. But I'm well on my way out of this hole.
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    Just don't give up and in the end you will be successful
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  • Profile picture of the author hamzidosh
    Find a method that works <affilliate marketing worked for me!>, stick to it longer than U would till the checks starts to rush in!...Good Luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author SeoWizzard
    Breezy, I've been where you are now... I got all stressed up with college and extra expenses... but I never really gave up, maybe just became less active, but one day I did my usual stuff online and found my motivation again. You too can find it, just don't give up for real. Take some time off, relax, then in a week or too, you'll see you are ready to learn some more.
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  • Profile picture of the author kin_lau
    Hi Breezy,

    if you think IM is not for you, then you are right. You can stuck to your 9-5 job and one day you'll find your service is not require anymore. By then, what do you do?

    maybe IM is not for you, but I would suggest, never give up to build a plan B for your income. I develop different type of income for myself. Like real estate, rental income, my own home office, and IM.

    Think of how you can contribute to others, e.g. you probably have a lot of experience about cisco, try to think of how to use your knowledge to benefit others who know nothing about cisco and willing to learn. base on what you already know and use IM technique to share with others.

    If you want to get someone to keep youself accountable, private message me

    no matter what you choose, I respect your choice, and good luck.
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    Hey Breezy,

    So many good inspiring words are told above! Try to listen to them and everything will clear up. Just take your time and good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author rcritchett
    I'm going to take a different approach on this one.

    We feel for you man, but listen.

    Saying sh** like "I don't have the ability," and you have to be super creative to do this... is a surefire way to train your brain to believe that, literally.

    How will you program your own mind? For failure? Or for outcomes?

    Nothing worth while is ever going to be easy. Do you know how many times I failed before I started making money? Tons! It isn't easy, despite what some guru might tell you.

    THIS IS PART OF IT.
    Getting frustrated, feeling like you're not making any progress is all part of the game my friend. That only means one thing: you're closer to breaking through.

    Stop with the self defeat, start being conscious of the way you're training your brain.
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    • Profile picture of the author nando1125
      Originally Posted by rcritchett View Post

      I'm going to take a different approach on this one.

      We feel for you man, but listen.

      Saying sh** like "I don't have the ability," and you have to be super creative to do this... is a surefire way to train your brain to believe that, literally.

      How will you program your own mind? For failure? Or for outcomes?

      Nothing worth while is ever going to be easy. Do you know how many times I failed before I started making money? Tons! It isn't easy, despite what some guru might tell you.

      THIS IS PART OF IT.
      Getting frustrated, feeling like you're not making any progress is all part of the game my friend. That only means one thing: you're closer to breaking through.

      Stop with the self defeat, start being conscious of the way you're training your brain.

      I'm gona have to go with this one here, don't give up. And if you do, at least change the way you are thinking. Your brain won't feel pity for you, it WILL make you a failure if you don't change your mindset.

      Anyways, I respect your choice, and I wish you good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author ngywng
    I'm in IM for 5 years, first two year I earn nothing.
    Don't quit! The harder you work, the luckier you get...
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  • Profile picture of the author chasnsx
    @Breezy:

    You are 23 years old and ready to give up on this? Really? I'm 48. I started IM as a hobby when things slowed down at my day job. It took me a year to make my first dollar in IM, and another 6 months to get to the $100 per month level, and I haven't quit my day job yet.

    IM is my retirement plan -- or my semi-retirement plan. I like my day job and want to keep doing it, but because I want to, not because I have to. But I need some passive income as a backstop. So I do IM. You are right, it is hard. I will spend two or three days writing content just to try to get my site to climb ten positions higher in Google. That is just how it is, because I am fighting for some highly competitive keywords.

    Two things: 1) Never give up; and 2) When you hit a wall in one place, work at something else for a while.
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  • Profile picture of the author alcymart
    In the end, the final decision is yours only.

    However, the economy is in very bad shape. That doesn't help and you may not have a choice but to work offline right now to make ends meet... at least for the time being. There is no shame in going to work every day to earn a living. Who knows in a couple years if there will be any jobs left...

    I earn a living solely online and I can tell you that my income has dropped to record lows this winter, and I'm very good at what I do! This being my sole income, I have no other choice but to push ahead and work harder and smarter to make ends meet!

    Your timing is off simply, but I'm looking forward on seeing better days in IM in a year or two and already started preparing for it...Hold on to your dreams and your job for now...Of course you can do both. I did both for almost 2 decades!

    Bernard
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  • Profile picture of the author ITM
    Well My mom says ..

    Never be a Quitter .. You do not fail when you keep trying because there is always a chance of success coming you way , God seeing you efforts..

    But you fail when you quit , when you lose the effort and give up.

    So never give up and keep trying hard
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  • Profile picture of the author vfelcett
    hi Everyone...

    I haven't been on this site too much and therefore am not really sure how to make a new thread post, so I am going to just ask on here.

    I have been using Sara Young's Easy Paycheck Formula....And, I have found it to be the best beginning affiliate program in comparison to many others I have tried. I have made a handful of sales over the past few months (mostly the Christmas season), and now I am at a dead stop.

    I seem to have mostly trouble trying to find keywords and SEO in general. I asked Sara what I should do to help me generate more sales and what not and she recommended Deadbeat Affiliate.

    I have read a number of posts on WF about this program which all seemed to be good. My question is:..... Is there anyone here that has had good success from this program when starting out struggling....?????

    And, does anyone offer any kind of coaching??

    Thank you
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    • Profile picture of the author garben2011
      Originally Posted by vfelcett View Post

      I have been using Sara Young's Easy Paycheck Formula....And, I have found it to be the best beginning affiliate program in comparison to many others I have tried. I have made a handful of sales over the past few months (mostly the Christmas season), and now I am at a dead stop.

      I seem to have mostly trouble trying to find keywords and SEO in general. I asked Sara what I should do to help me generate more sales and what not and she recommended Deadbeat Affiliate.
      Hello, at the risk of hijacking this thread I suppose by discussing this but as it does tie in with the general thread theme maybe it is okay.

      You mentioned finding some success with EPF making about 5 sales over the past few months (primarily during Christmas season)....

      First, I am a bit shocked that the creator of EPF is actually advising you to go ahead and forget about EPF and purchase another moneymaking system. Are you saying she actually believes that is all of the life in her EPF product? It was good for 5 sales and that's it?

      Second, I'm curious... what has changed between what you were doing then and what you are doing now? I mean how were you able to locate keywords and do SEO enough to make those sales and why can you not do the same thing to make more sales?
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      • Profile picture of the author vfelcett
        Whoa lol.... she's not downing her product or anything like that. She just mentioned to have me use it since it would teach me other ways for more SEO. My problem is that I have a very hard time finding keywords and SEO.

        Her product is GREAT .... So easy to understand really she helps and answers and is just a great woman.... but she doesn't cover EVERYTHING and therefore told me I should look at something else that would cover more at what I want to do. If someone is new to all this then EPF is a GREAT product which I recommend.

        I am not doing anything different... I think I just am not keyword savvy and I would probably need some coaching in that respect ...
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        • Profile picture of the author garben2011
          Originally Posted by vfelcett View Post

          She just mentioned to have me use it since it would teach me other ways for more SEO. My problem is that I have a very hard time finding keywords and SEO.

          Her product is GREAT .... So easy to understand really she helps and answers and is just a great woman.... I am not doing anything different... I think I just am not keyword savvy and I would probably need some coaching in that respect ...
          Okay, that makes sense.

          Many people swear by using keyword research tools such as Micro Niche Finder or Market Samurai. There are many of them. I have used many of them. Liked MNF for a while but I stopped using it simply because I don't see the point in knowingly using something that is going against the policies of Google (the owner of the data these software tools dig through) which do not allow automated queries to mine their data. I know many people will argue with my view on that and it is okay (many people also think anything goes if they can make a buck).

          And beyond the ethical part of it I think those software research tools just make it that much easier for people to get caught up in analysis paralysis. All research and no production.

          I'm no expert on the matter but I can tell you what I do now after doing this stuff for about 7 years.

          Ways to get keyword ideas:

          • Look around your house and what do you see? Lots of product keyword ideas.
          • What are your favorite hobbies and interests? What are your friends into? Now you are looking at hobby/passion keyword ideas.
          • What challenges have you and your friends faced? Weight loss, gaining weight, learning some new skill, and so on... now you are looking at health and career/wealth keyword ideas.
          • Go to amazon and just pick any category that interests you. What do you see? Lots of product sub-categories? Keep clicking and you will see tons of products. Lots of product keyword ideas. Sort by best selling if you like. Then you know the products are in demand. Also, you can look at the number of reviews. If a product has a lot of reviews it is selling well. I think I read someplace that only about 1 out of 500 buyers bothers to leave a review.
          • Make a list of a bunch of things from the above sources. Go to the google external keyword tool (or use a software product if that is your thing) and check out the demand. Take the demand with a grain of salt. I mean use the number you see as a general gauge but do not rely solely on that. These numbers are never accurate. Using these tools will help you to drill down to the long-tail keywords.
          • Another way to quickly check for some adequate demand and find long-tail keywords is to simply start typing the keyword into Bing or Google search engines. They will show popular suggested search phrases based on what you are typing.

          Checking Supply (can you win the SEO battle)

          I have tried several different ways to gauge supply from using the quoted search technique (searching for "awesome monster trucks" instead of awesome monster trucks, to doing an allintitle:awesome monster trucks to looking at the top 10 results for awesome monster trucks on google and checking out their PR and # of backlinks to I don't remember really what else.

          But anyway, now I just take a quick look at the site in spot #10 and spot #30.

          That is all I care about really. #30 becomes the immediate goal to shoot for (to get on page 3 which I pull a lot of traffic from to many many different pages it adds up) and #10 is the longer term goal with the ultimate goal of nearly everyone to get to spots #1 to #3. Honestly, yeah that is great to shoot for. I used to waste my time doing that. I don't do that any more. Sometimes it just happens on its own and that is a good thing. But I don't sit around worrying & planning on how to take over spots #1 to #3. By the time I hit page one I have moved way on to other things.


          Again, I am not an expert on this stuff I am just saying this is what I do now. I've read so many different ebooks and articles on this crap over the years and have spent time trying every little technique I could find and through time I've just thrown out most of it because honestly it is just a waste of time in my opinion.

          Spend more time doing and less time analyzing and researching. That is the path to take in my opinion.

          Good luck and perhaps someone else will provide better guidance for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tspringer
    I am not a guru... I too am new to IM.

    But I have over 25 years experience taking offline ideas and turning them into successful offline businesses. Some big... some small... some very big.

    Here is my advice:

    Quit working on IM.

    Not permanently, but step away for both a break and a reset. It sounds to me like your something of a cubicle hermit. A techie who basically has zero sales, marketing or entrepreneurial experience. If this is the case, here is what I suggest you do.

    Forget about how to get your IM business going.... and spend a bit of time training yourself relative to the core of entrepreneurial success. What you are suffering is not an inability to grasp the technical concepts associated with various IM strategies. Your problem is you lack the general skills required to take all the info on IM TOOLS swirling all over the place in your head and boil them down to a business strategy with which you can move forward in an action plan.

    Go buy and read the following:

    - How to Get Rich by Felix Dennis. Horrible book title... fantastic book
    - Business Stripped Bare + Losing my Virginity both by Richard Branson
    - The Magic of Thinking Big by David Schwartz
    - How to Make Millions with your Ideas by Dan Kennedy

    Take the time to read those 4 books.... I GUARANTY you that you will return to IM with an entirely different outlook.


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  • Profile picture of the author Carol_A
    You should stay at for a while longer.

    I have been doing this for a total of three months and I am making a profit!

    A good coach is essential.

    Take care of yourself...
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  • Profile picture of the author jushuaburnham
    If you think you can't then nothing good happens but if you think positive whatever hard it is you can able to pursue to do it, motivate yourself.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom L
    ... then quit
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  • Profile picture of the author Geordie John
    Seems an appropriate place to drop a quote from Henry Ford -

    'If you think you can do a thing or think you can't do a thing, you're right.'

    Success begins with belief, with having the right mindset to keep going until you get there. Don't have the right skills? Go learn some. It's not hard to craft reviews as an affiliate and make some commissions, and the simple act of getting some commissions under your belt will do wonders for your self-belief.
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    • Profile picture of the author lilphilupt
      Please don't give up it's plenty of ways to go about IM, i think you just need to find whats right for you.

      Also always remember anything you can put your mind on, you can definitely achieve. Good luck to you and your success.
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      • Profile picture of the author Nick Garcia
        I'm just going to put it bluntly: You need a huge shift in your attitude towards life.

        Whether you choose to accept it or not, our thoughts greatly influence how capable we are at something. There is no such thing as "a brain that is wired to be incapable of Internet Marketing". This is impossible and Science would agree with me here.

        You are an engineer. You sometimes wire hardware together. If the device you're wiring together operates poorly or doesn't operate at all, you don't just accept that device as a bad device. You fix it. You wire it differently or put it together differently until it is better, faster, stronger, and more efficient.

        Our brain is no different. It is a biological machine that can be wired and rewired every single moment while we are alive.

        I use to get distracted a lot. I could barely focus, but I loved Internet Marketing and wanted to figure out a way to keep up with a world such as this. It was really hard when I had trouble staying on a single task for more than a few minutes before I was on YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, or some other distracting site.

        Now...I easily plow through 4 hour sessions every day. And I do well with what I accomplish.

        I started playing games at Lumosity (Google it!). They are games which challenge your brain and you can track your progress as you improve in things like Attention, Memory, Problem Solving, etc.

        My point is that if you honestly feel like you are 'incapable' of being an Internet Marketer...do not ask the question "So what do I do instead?" Instead, ask yourself "How can I become capable?" And the answer...is to challenge your mind on a daily basis with new things. Lumosity, a second/third/fifth/ninth language, speed reading, BOOKS...LOTS of BOOKS, chess, cardio exercises and motor skills activities...

        In the end the choice is yours. Right now you have a terrible attitude towards Internet Marketing. You are making the choice to "not be capable of doing it"

        Good luck, man. And keep in mind that your engineering field is still huge and has a lot of potential. Whatever you do...do it well and live as fully as you can.

        Peace,
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        • Profile picture of the author VGreg
          Oh Nick this post is amazing, I especially love this part:

          You are an engineer. You sometimes wire hardware together. If the device you're wiring together operates poorly or doesn't operate at all, you don't just accept that device as a bad device. You fix it. You wire it differently or put it together differently until it is better, faster, stronger, and more efficient.

          Our brain is no different. It is a biological machine that can be wired and rewired every single moment while we are alive.
          I will also try the game you recommended.
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  • Profile picture of the author VGreg
    I have troubles getting income from my online business as well, but I made a promise that I will never ever give up. I have doubts all the time, but I often try to reframe it, because I know that other people are doing it (hell, I'm buying stuff from these people) so it is just a matter of time untill I figure it out. I would recommend this attitude to you as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author miahmiah
    I joined the IM world 5 years ago and I haven't made a penny yet... I believe in myself so will stick around until I make the MONEY... don't give up when the going gets tough...what the mind can believe it can achieve...
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  • Profile picture of the author Chevy5
    I started toying with IM last year and am still struggling with it. It just takes some people longer than others to find the right "formula" for them. It's hard when you have no help, which is why I joined this forum. I am trying to learn all I can from these threads. I've wanted to give up myself, but I know if others can do it, I can too. Don't give up.

    PS... A big THANKS to all who are giving freebies and trying to help us newbies. It is very much appreciated!
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Ward
    This is going to sound harsh, but I'm looking at your post history and it looks like you haven't even tried anything. Have you? You joined the forum and over the course of two weeks decided that you can't make any money and then posted a thread like this? Are you trying to get someone to take pity and hold your hand, or what? :confused:
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  • Profile picture of the author Patrick Warren
    Seriously dude I was thinking this exact same thing last week, except I was unemployed so I didn't have the luxury of a full-time job.

    Then a local dentist called me and said he'd like to have my SEO services for his business and I got a $500 check up front on Monday. So now I know it's definitely possible.

    Just remember, everything seems impossible until it isn't.
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  • Profile picture of the author jtunkelo
    It's all in your belief. All of it. If you believe you cannot do it, you will find a way to prove that. If you do believe you can do it, and do it Your Way, you WILL find a way to prove that to be true. But if you're battling against yourself, you're going to lose every single time. So just make up your mind, and go do it.
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  • Profile picture of the author kianhowe
    Breezy, I completely understand how you feel. I wouldn't have made it without the support from my parents.

    My first three months was a total disaster. I spent all my savings on all the bs the gurus were selling and only made about $50 in that three months. I would have given up if it wasn't for the support from my family and friends.

    Look, in every aspect of life, there are people who persevere and there are those who just give up and end up thinking what if he had persevered? You don't want to be them do you? You've only tried IM for a month come on. Give it another few more months and make sure you work hard at it. You can't expect results only after a month can you?

    Sure, there might be the odd success story where someone just made it big after a week or so. But those people only come along every once in a while. Start thinking positively and you'll see that it makes a whole world of difference in your life not just IM.

    I hope that you start looking at the world positively from now on and you'll realise that it is the best thing you've ever done regardless of whether you continue IM or not. Think of it this way, at least you're trying to make your life better by trying out IM. How many other people just work 9-5 at a lowly paid job and never ever thought of making more money?

    You are already ahead of so many people in that aspect. I hope you will continue your IM journey like the rest of us here. But if you don't, just know that you are already better than so many others! Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Frei
    I always thought that it's not the ideas that necessary in IM but the implementation. You can do what already works and make cash.
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  • Profile picture of the author HugoG
    I just want you to go to bed with this quote in your mind:

    'Whether you think you can, or you think you can't--you're right.' - Henry Ford.
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  • Profile picture of the author JTDrew
    "It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."

    Teddy Roosevelt
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  • Profile picture of the author Aandice Austin
    No matter you think you can do it or you can not! it doesn't matter, sometimes the result is not that important than you ever thought, if you want, just do it! and be happy ^ ^
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  • Profile picture of the author SundayForever
    You don't have to create websites full of content to be a success in internet marketing. Maybe you're a good writer and you could write eBooks. Maybe you're a good editor and you could edit other people's content. Maybe you know what makes a good ad and you could make Google Ads packages.
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  • Profile picture of the author alannadodd
    perhaps the OP has fallen into the trap of believing the 'instant riches gurus', like i did when i first started, like many did i'm sure, and that if he's not making '$13,734' per week then he's a failure. this line of work is so hard because you don't have the safety-net of a company/boss/mentor to train you, like in a normal 9-5 - you have to learn everything yourself, which is why i thank god theres resources like this site to call on.
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