Can't Make Money Online? Stop Being Lazy!!

by Coby
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Hey Warriors,

Seems like a day doesn't go by that we don't see a thread in our forum talking about how someone is desperate to make money or as tried "everything" and can't make money, can't build a list, etc...

I have the solution for those that aren't making money online...

STOP BEING LAZY!!!

It really gets me angry when I come into contact with someone who "needs help" and I share with them something that works (I know, worked for me) and they say "that's too much work"... Or "I can't contact other marketer's I'm just a newbie" I've even heard "I'm looking for something that isn't such a hassle"...

My reply is usually "that's cool this isn't for everyone"...

But I'm really thinking "wow, how will you ever make it?"

I hate to be the bearer of bad news... But if you want the IM lifestyle (vacations, sleeping in, working in your underwear) you have to PUT IN THE WORK FIRST! You have to set yourself up to be able to reap the rewards...

I guess people see IMers who "have an easy life" but people don't realize how hard they worked to get to the "easy life"...

If you want to makes 100's or 1000's of dollars while you sleep you HAVE TO WORK HARD TO GET THERE!

The money doesn't happen overnight! In fact I would suggest you plan to go at least 6 months without making money (although a year is more common)... Not saying you can't get results sooner, YOU CAN! But you still have to work hard!

So, today are you going to start working hard or are you going to keep looking for the next "push button" overnight miracle Clickbank launch...

There is a reason why those products fizzle out after the big launch... The hype wears off and people start looking for something new...

If you aren't making money yet, let today be the day you turn it all around...

PICK SOMETHING AND STICK TO IT FOR AT LEAST 6 MONTHS!
#lazy #make #money #newbies #online #stop
  • Profile picture of the author rekerlolz
    Being lazy is only a part of people not making money online ...I think making money online is a fine tuned process that takes time to perfect. Some people get it faster than others but the first step to failure is giving up so its important to keep at it .
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Franklin
    Furthermore with so many plans available for you to emulate between the War Room posts and WSO products as well as so many great 5 star posts, it's not like you have to reinvent the wheel.

    Just implement what works!
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    I can understand where you're coming from but isn't that a bit harsh?

    Just because someone is shy and not yet able to approach strangers to do business doesn't mean they're lazy and can't make IM work for them.

    They may be perfect to creating great content sites or doing video marketing... Just because they don't like your method or have some limiting beliefs doesn't mean they're a write-off.
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    • Profile picture of the author James Brown
      Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

      I can understand where you're coming from but isn't that a bit harsh?

      Just because someone is shy and not yet able to approach strangers to do business doesn't mean they're lazy and can't make IM work for them.

      They may be perfect to creating great content sites or doing video marketing... Just because they don't like your method or have some limiting beliefs doesn't mean they're a write-off.
      Good point Andy!

      In my own case, I'm a super well known rude, unsociable sob. Just got to
      find your own way online and the beautiful thing is lots of ways to make
      it happen & still make the big bucks.
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      • Profile picture of the author Coby
        Originally Posted by rekerlolz View Post

        Being lazy is only a part of people not making money online ...I think making money online is a fine tuned process that takes time to perfect. Some people get it faster than others but the first step to failure is giving up so its important to keep at it .
        I agree, it is a fine tuned process. Like you said, the most important part is to not give up!

        Originally Posted by Michael Franklin View Post

        Furthermore with so many plans available for you to emulate between the War Room posts and WSO products as well as so many great 5 star posts, it's not like you have to reinvent the wheel.

        Just implement what works!
        Very easy to find a "method" here in the Warrior Forum, you are so right!

        Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

        I can understand where you're coming from but isn't that a bit harsh?

        Just because someone is shy and not yet able to approach strangers to do business doesn't mean they're lazy and can't make IM work for them.

        They may be perfect to creating great content sites or doing video marketing... Just because they don't like your method or have some limiting beliefs doesn't mean they're a write-off.
        Yes Andy it is very harsh...

        I agree, not all methods will work for all people... But if someone asks me "what worked for you, how can I duplicate it?" and I tell them and then they just give me a list of excuses of why they can't do it...

        Those are the people I CANT HELP (nor would I want to) because they don't want to help themselves...

        I personally am extremely shy and and absolutely dread contacting people I don't know... But sometimes in life we have to do things we don't want to do to be successful...

        The lazy part however corresponds to ALL methods of making money, online and off, even simple stuff TAKES WORK!

        Regardless of what you do in life, it is nearly impossible to be successful without some hard work...

        In fact before my IM career I was forced to take a job doing door to door sales in order to pay my bills and eat... and like I said I don't even like talking on the phone to family/friends because I'm so shy...

        Sometimes life requires us to do things we never wanted to do to survive...

        So, if I can do it I know others can, just do it!

        Originally Posted by hwhite View Post

        "Yes, but it says right here on the instructions for Pixie Dust: all I have to do is click three times, hit the magic 'go' button, then sit back and wait for the convoy of armored cars to back up in my driveway to unload literally tons of cash!"

        That's cool! When you're a pre-schooler.

        Seriously, though, mere busy-work - working hard at the wrong things - isn't going to bring you any closer to your goals. And each of the steps in the process have to be pulling in the same direction, not working against each other, undermining and neutralizing all your efforts. That just leaves you physically and mentally exhausted without adding a cent to your bank account.
        Yes I agree you could work your butt off for 6 months and not make a dime, but at least you took action... You will never know if it will work or not if you don't try...

        Originally Posted by James Brown View Post

        Good point Andy!

        In my own case, I'm a super well known rude, unsociable sob. Just got to
        find your own way online and the beautiful thing is lots of ways to make
        it happen & still make the big bucks.
        Yup, if your willing to work hard anything is possible.
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  • Profile picture of the author Henry White
    "Yes, but it says right here on the instructions for Pixie Dust: all I have to do is click three times, hit the magic 'go' button, then sit back and wait for the convoy of armored cars to back up in my driveway to unload literally tons of cash!"

    That's cool! When you're a pre-schooler.

    Seriously, though, mere busy-work - working hard at the wrong things - isn't going to bring you any closer to your goals. And each of the steps in the process have to be pulling in the same direction, not working against each other, undermining and neutralizing all your efforts. That just leaves you physically and mentally exhausted without adding a cent to your bank account.
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Harper
    Originally Posted by Coby View Post


    I guess people see IMers who "have an easy life" but people don't realize how hard they worked to get to the "easy life"...

    If you want to makes 100's or 1000's of dollars while you sleep you HAVE TO WORK HARD TO GET THERE!
    It's definitely deceiving. While it's great to wake up to money in your Paypal account for "doing nothing", people have no idea how much work you have to do at the front end to get there.

    But the bigger thing that holds people back, I think, is that there are NO GUARANTEES.

    Talk about delayed gratification ... what if there's no payoff at all?!!!

    That's why I took the approach that my goal would be to simply get something good out there in the marketplace. To do it right and FINISH, regardless of outcome.

    I figured that even if I flopped, I'd learn something valuable that I could leverage later.

    This is what saw me through until the end. Because believe me, there sure were times I wanted to quit.
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  • Profile picture of the author Keith Everett
    Originally Posted by Coby View Post

    Hey Warriors,

    Seems like a day doesn't go by that we don't see a thread in our forum talking about how someone is desperate to make money or as tried "everything" and can't make money, can't build a list, etc...

    I have the solution for those that aren't making money online...

    STOP BEING LAZY!!!

    It really gets me angry when I come into contact with someone who "needs help" and I share with them something that works (I know, worked for me) and they say "that's too much work"... Or "I can't contact other marketer's I'm just a newbie" I've even heard "I'm looking for something that isn't such a hassle"...

    My reply is usually "that's cool this isn't for everyone"...

    But I'm really thinking "wow, how will you ever make it?"

    I hate to be the bearer of bad news... But if you want the IM lifestyle (vacations, sleeping in, working in your underwear) you have to PUT IN THE WORK FIRST! You have to set yourself up to be able to reap the rewards...

    I guess people see IMers who "have an easy life" but people don't realize how hard they worked to get to the "easy life"...

    If you want to makes 100's or 1000's of dollars while you sleep you HAVE TO WORK HARD TO GET THERE!

    The money doesn't happen overnight! In fact I would suggest you plan to go at least 6 months without making money (although a year is more common)... Not saying you can't get results sooner, YOU CAN! But you still have to work hard!

    So, today are you going to start working hard or are you going to keep looking for the next "push button" overnight miracle Clickbank launch...

    There is a reason why those products fizzle out after the big launch... The hype wears off and people start looking for something new...

    If you aren't making money yet, let today be the day you turn it all around...

    PICK SOMETHING AND STICK TO IT FOR AT LEAST 6 MONTHS!
    Hi Coby

    Yeah, you are right, SOME people are downright lazy and wouldn't make ANYTHING work, but I don't think that applies to the majority.

    Most of my coaching clients work extremely hard, but spend too much time going off in a dozen different directions. People just need to be shown the right way to focus and progress. I did months of this for free and built up a great client base this way

    People are just people, you can't box all newbies as "lazy". Some work their ass off and don't get results. It's up to us to teach them how, not ridicule them

    Keith
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  • Profile picture of the author matt5409
    Laziness probably has something to do with a lot of failure stories, but confidence (or lack of) plays it's part too. many people just are not confident enough that what they are doing is going to pay off, so they try to put in as little effort as possible. it's madman logic i know, but I'm sure many people are victims of it!
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    • Profile picture of the author Coby
      Originally Posted by Daniel Harper View Post

      It's definitely deceiving. While it's great to wake up to money in your Paypal account for "doing nothing", people have no idea how much work you have to do at the front end to get there.

      But the bigger thing that holds people back, I think, is that there are NO GUARANTEES.

      Talk about delayed gratification ... what if there's no payoff at all?!!!

      That's why I took the approach that my goal would be to simply get something good out there in the marketplace. To do it right and FINISH, regardless of outcome.

      I figured that even if I flopped, I'd learn something valuable that I could leverage later.

      This is what saw me through until the end. Because believe me, there sure were times I wanted to quit.
      Perfectly put! If you put in the work to finish something you can't really fail... Like you said, even if you fail you will likely learn something! Thanks for your input

      Originally Posted by kweb777 View Post

      Hi Coby

      Yeah, you are right, SOME people are downright lazy and wouldn't make ANYTHING work, but I don't think that applies to the majority.

      Most of my coaching clients work extremely hard, but spend too much time going off in a dozen different directions. People just need to be shown the right way to focus and progress. I did months of this for free and built up a great client base this way

      People are just people, you can't box all newbies as "lazy". Some work their ass off and don't get results. It's up to us to teach them how, not ridicule them

      Keith
      Hey Keith, look at the last line of my post...

      I'm not ridiculing the folks that work hard but aren't getting focused (those folks aren't lazy are they?)... I'm talking about the people who don't even attempt to get started in even one direction, but instead give me a dozens reasons why they can't do it...

      I love the folks you are talking about (hard workers, but lack focus) and I love working with them because I know they will succeed with just a little guidance... If I only had to deal with these types of people, coaching would be very simple, lol.

      Originally Posted by matt5409 View Post

      Laziness probably has something to do with a lot of failure stories, but confidence (or lack of) plays it's part too. many people just are not confident enough that what they are doing is going to pay off, so they try to put in as little effort as possible. it's madman logic i know, but I'm sure many people are victims of it!
      Again, something people have to overcome to be successful... but typically they will go hand in hand... because if someone just lacks confidence but are willing to work you can easily coach them to success because my experience is after a little reassurance these folks generally become very hard workers and succeed...

      Confidence is fixable, laziness I'm still undecided about, lol
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    • Profile picture of the author Doolder
      Yeah, you are right, SOME people are downright lazy and wouldn't make ANYTHING work, but I don't think that applies to the majority.
      I would think it actually applies to the majority of people in IM actually, but it all depends on how you define "work". To some people, spending hours every day reading every single thread on WF is what they call "work". In my opinion, it can be true for a while when you're just trying to find an idea to work on or get answers to some questions you might have, but it quickly becomes a waste of time when you're not putting into action what you're learning.

      Real work in my opinion is when you have a goal and really get your hands dirty to achieve it, and I think most people don't know how to do that.
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      • Imagine for a minute you were driving on a rural road, in the middle of the desert, you have no idea where you are, your GPS unit has shot craps, you have no map, you are very lost, a little dehydrated, and very worried. Because you have no idea of where you are, how you got here, or where you should be going. What you lack is a plan. That lack of a plan, can cause you to start thinking very irrationally, and to take a bad situation and make it much worse. The point I am trying to make is this, lazy, or not lazy. If you don't have a goal, and a realistic plan of how you are going to achieve that goal. FORGET IT.

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    • Profile picture of the author ladywriter
      Originally Posted by matt5409 View Post

      many people just are not confident enough that what they are doing is going to pay off, so they try to put in as little effort as possible. it's madman logic i know, but I'm sure many people are victims of it!
      *Raises hand*

      I am constantly overriding that feeling. "Don't spend too much time with this, it's not even making you money and you've got bills to pay... it's probably not going to work anyway...." I think it has to do with growing up the way I did.

      It is getting easier, but a part of me still wonders wtf is "wrong" with me that I don't want another "real" job where they give me set work to do and a set salary I can "depend" on.

      Some people can't override the feeling.
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      • Profile picture of the author Coby
        Originally Posted by kstark View Post

        *Raises hand*

        I am constantly overriding that feeling. "Don't spend too much time with this, it's not even making you money and you've got bills to pay... it's probably not going to work anyway...." I think it has to do with growing up the way I did.

        It is getting easier, but a part of me still wonders wtf is "wrong" with me that I don't want another "real" job where they give me set work to do and a set salary I can "depend" on.

        Some people can't override the feeling.
        Hey Kstark,

        You can do it! Don't let your brain get in the way

        Everytime you think "this isn't working" think about having a "real" J.O.B. and hopefully that will motivate you to keep trying...

        I grew up with a skeptical mother, so I know where you are coming from, but you CAN OVERRIDE THE FEELING!

        First step, stop thinking you can't override it! YOU ARE the BOSS, YOU are in control, keep that in mind

        PM me if you need more help with this factor
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  • Profile picture of the author Dendmen
    Yes, the old saying is still true

    Keep on working hard and smart guys, thats what sets us apart from everyone else
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Laziness can be a factor and anyone who has ever taught offline or online has experienced people who just expect things to happen without any work. I have a friend who coaches online and people are giving him crap for not delivering when they haven't even done their end of a project yet. I taught at a Jr. College once and some of the defiance I experienced from people who didn't feel like doing anything was unreal. I also taught dance. The salespeople told the people that they signed up that ANYONE can dance. Bull ****. It's just not the truth. Period. Some people will never be dancers no matter what.

    Needless to say - I don't teach anymore. Online, however, we have a few misconceptions going on that is really putting a chink in everyone's iron.

    How many of these people get online because they see endless hype about "in your sleep" or "No work necessary". They believe this stuff. While it's partly their fault for being gullible look at where they are coming from. There are people out there who literally don't have any more education than is necessary to get a job flipping hamburgers. They somehow believe that you can run a business with NO SKILL at all. They get online thinking it's all in the program and not related to their background. Then they get on here and find out they don't have the skills to perform some of the simplest tasks they need to succeed here and they have no money to outsource. Now they are screwed. When they say "too much work" - what they mean is they haven't a clue of what is going on no matter how clear you think you made yourself in your guidance.

    When I got online, I had major amounts of business experience in Public relations. I had an education and know how to write. But - there's not one whit I understood about technology. I read some of what people thought to be the most simple instructions and found that people that know how to do the technology do not usually remember what it's like to look at the stuff for the first time. I spent more time looking up definitions than reading. But I was fortunate. Having a public relations background allowed me to express what I CAN do and also gave me the background needed to network. I've learned a lot about technology, but more importantly I was able to find partners so I didn't have to worry about having to take time I didn't have to get the education to do it ALL on my own. I would have been overwhelmed.

    There are people who have enough experience, background, time and energy to make this stuff work for them. There are others who just need to face the fact that they need more education to be able to run a business. A to Z instruction doesn't help a person who can barely put together a coherent question about something.

    These people easily come off as lazy. Before you tag someone as lazy though -- assess their individual level of knowledge that they are starting with. It may not be enough for you to help them even if you consider yourself the MASTER of mentoring.

    As someone said, you CAN make money in your sleep - but it's the same thing as getting your paycheck direct deposited when you're in bed. You have to do the work to get that money coming in. If you are finding the whole kit and kaboodle just overwhelming, what you need to do is go to school for awhile and get some background knowledge about how businesses function and then try to make your own. If your skill level is so low that you can't understand the material being presented to you, you are not ready to have your own business. Simply put. Dreams are awesome, but you don't put the new car in the driveway by dreaming it's there.

    Somewhere the "gurus" and masters decided that ANYONE can do this. The people that decided that more times than not had some background in business function before they decided that one. The truth is - not everyone can run a business. I don't find fault with them for coming here and finding that out. After all, if you never try something you never know. Maybe those who mentor can rest a little easier knowing that even when their students don't work out - or work at all - some of them just weren't right for the field. Some are dead lazy, but we can't just make that a blanket tag to cover anyone who doesn't succeed here.
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  • Profile picture of the author gskesavan
    I'd say being lazy doesn't mean not being productive. One may like to work for 10 hours a day, but the other likes to work only 2 hours a day. It's all about knowing yourself and what you can do & what you want to do.

    As for newbies, they're just too confused. They know what we say will work, but they are undergoing an information overload. Just before they implement a proper system, they come across another one (internet is way too fast an info provider) and BAM, it's all gone. Their focus is changed to the other method and they start from scratch again.

    A few get through by sticking to just one method and the rest take their time in learning this lesson.

    But trust me, the pivot point is just when you realize which system you are gonna adopt to. Once you've stuck to the system you like there's no turning back

    I don't know if this relates to your post Coby, but I just wanted to share my thoughts
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    • Profile picture of the author Coby
      Originally Posted by gskesavan View Post

      I'd say being lazy doesn't mean not being productive. One may like to work for 10 hours a day, but the other likes to work only 2 hours a day. It's all about knowing yourself and what you can do & what you want to do.

      As for newbies, they're just too confused. They know what we say will work, but they are undergoing an information overload. Just before they implement a proper system, they come across another one (internet is way too fast an info provider) and BAM, it's all gone. Their focus is changed to the other method and they start from scratch again.

      A few get through by sticking to just one method and the rest take their time in learning this lesson.

      But trust me, the pivot point is just when you realize which system you are gonna adopt to. Once you've stuck to the system you like there's no turning back

      I don't know if this relates to your post Coby, but I just wanted to share my thoughts
      I agree, you can be lazy and be productive... Honestly, I am lazy when it comes to some things... But I have a VA that does that for me...

      What I mean though is being to lazy to even try to be productive. I mean hell even if you only "work" an hour a day eventually you will see results or you will see that it doesn't work...

      Problem is (in my opinion) that people want to finish the race but they don't want to put in the 499 laps it takes to get to the final lap...

      So to recap while sticking to the race car theme... If you want to win the race you have to finish the first 499 laps... Put in the work and the rest will follow
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  • Profile picture of the author Shazia Mirza
    Thanks for that Coby, I really liked what you said. I will pass it on to my list.
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  • Profile picture of the author Thomas Wilkinson
    I agree with Hey HeySal most of the way. Some of these people couldn't run a snow cone stand on a hot day in July. BUT, some of them WOULDN'T even if you set it all up for them. How many threads do you see in here that start out "What's the least...", "How few...","What's the minimum...", "How quick(ly) can I...", etc. My partner is threatening to put a timed kill switch on the computers because some nights I'm up till dawn working on something. Some times I fall asleep in the office and she comes in and wakes me up to go to bed. A lot of this isn't exactly joyous fun but it is rewarding to create something from scratch that other people find value in.
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  • Profile picture of the author blueberries
    Yeah people tend to do much surfing on the web. To many Distractions. Lack of focus.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dxdevilx
    Ohh nice to see u man that you are encouraging newbies to earn harder those who thinks they should get money by just sitting on couch relaxing should not join forums like these :\
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  • Profile picture of the author KunTaoM
    I totally agree with you Coby. People I know who've tried IM and given up were usually lazy. "Wait, that's too much stuff, I can't do that" Or "I thought this was supposed to be easy". It's not easy and it does take time. I've told many people that it's hard to do this, but once you get the hard part over, it's somewhat on cruise control afterwards. You can't take it easy in IM, that's for sure.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fenshon
    one project, then focus until you make it. I give 5 bucks a day 10/10 for this strategy
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  • Profile picture of the author Naeem Sikandar
    well these sort of people never make even a single dime online. if you really want to earn some good fortune online , then you have to work smarter and plz dont be lazy because it spoils everything...
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  • Profile picture of the author richgrad
    Yes, it's gonna be hard work initially... you've got to pick something implement and follow through... be flexible to change if it's not working and be ready to scale up if it is...
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeff Baxter
      Hi Coby,

      This is such a great thread. I can remember checking one of my membership sites not too long ago where over 300 people were signed up. This was top notch training and everything. I was checking to see if most people logged back in after they first signed up and over 90% of them didn't. Yet they still pay me monthly

      It's clear as daylight, most people don't take action..I don't care who you are or how good your material is., they just don't want to work.

      My 0.02

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  • Profile picture of the author Trent Raymond
    Originally Posted by Coby View Post

    Hey Warriors,

    Seems like a day doesn't go by that we don't see a thread in our forum talking about how someone is desperate to make money or as tried "everything" and can't make money, can't build a list, etc...

    I have the solution for those that aren't making money online...

    STOP BEING LAZY!!!

    It really gets me angry when I come into contact with someone who "needs help" and I share with them something that works (I know, worked for me) and they say "that's too much work"... Or "I can't contact other marketer's I'm just a newbie" I've even heard "I'm looking for something that isn't such a hassle"...

    My reply is usually "that's cool this isn't for everyone"...

    But I'm really thinking "wow, how will you ever make it?"

    I hate to be the bearer of bad news... But if you want the IM lifestyle (vacations, sleeping in, working in your underwear) you have to PUT IN THE WORK FIRST! You have to set yourself up to be able to reap the rewards...

    I guess people see IMers who "have an easy life" but people don't realize how hard they worked to get to the "easy life"...

    If you want to makes 100's or 1000's of dollars while you sleep you HAVE TO WORK HARD TO GET THERE!

    The money doesn't happen overnight! In fact I would suggest you plan to go at least 6 months without making money (although a year is more common)... Not saying you can't get results sooner, YOU CAN! But you still have to work hard!

    So, today are you going to start working hard or are you going to keep looking for the next "push button" overnight miracle Clickbank launch...

    There is a reason why those products fizzle out after the big launch... The hype wears off and people start looking for something new...

    If you aren't making money yet, let today be the day you turn it all around...

    PICK SOMETHING AND STICK TO IT FOR AT LEAST 6 MONTHS!
    Bravo Man! I couldn't agree more. It will take most people at least six months to learn how to make money.
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  • Profile picture of the author JamesGw
    I can't stress how important it is for people to realize that you won't make money right away. I mean sure, if you offer services and meet some people that like your stuff, you might be able to make a few bucks. But it's incredibly hard to make a sustainable income inside of a few months
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    • Profile picture of the author WhosGotMoves
      For myself it is definitely not a case of being "too lazy", however what a few of you have mentioned that currently seems to plague my ability to make a profit is a lack of focus on a single project and perhaps too much time performing non-essential tasks.

      Since I am attempting to learn most of the steps of building a successful site, it takes quite a while to learn how to perform SEO, create an autoresponder, and constantly provide relevant content. I have 2 sites that currently receive 50-100 Unique Visitors per day but it is not converting to much profit. I spend 3-4 hours per day (when not at my full-time job) working on my internet marketing biz. Yet there are times when I feel as though I'm pouring hours into the gutter because I might have selected the wrong market, or the methods I've chosen aren't being performed correctly.

      I can understand how noobies get frustrated, but I feel it's unfair to group us all together as lazy. Thanks for the constructive advice though. I try to take advice from people who are as active as you are on WF and believe that if I stick to it then I'll make the breakthrough I hear mentioned so often around these parts.
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      • Profile picture of the author Coby
        Originally Posted by WhosGotMoves View Post

        For myself it is definitely not a case of being "too lazy", however what a few of you have mentioned that currently seems to plague my ability to make a profit is a lack of focus on a single project and perhaps too much time performing non-essential tasks.

        Since I am attempting to learn most of the steps of building a successful site, it takes quite a while to learn how to perform SEO, create an autoresponder, and constantly provide relevant content. I have 2 sites that currently receive 50-100 Unique Visitors per day but it is not converting to much profit. I spend 3-4 hours per day (when not at my full-time job) working on my internet marketing biz. Yet there are times when I feel as though I'm pouring hours into the gutter because I might have selected the wrong market, or the methods I've chosen aren't being performed correctly.

        I can understand how noobies get frustrated, but I feel it's unfair to group us all together as lazy. Thanks for the constructive advice though. I try to take advice from people who are as active as you are on WF and believe that if I stick to it then I'll make the breakthrough I hear mentioned so often around these parts.
        Read my post more thoroughly, I'm not grouping EVERYONE...

        Also, I did mention the inability to stay focused (see last line of post)...

        But in your case, it appears as though you just need to give it more time. Make a list of "must do's" and DO THEM EVERYDAY! Since you have a full-time job as well, it is even more important to make sure the time you spend on your internet business is used efficiently.

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  • Profile picture of the author H.Miller
    I agree with everything you said. Too many people think making money online is a get rich quick thing. It takes work, and a lot of it if you want to be successful.
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  • Profile picture of the author nicolas simpson
    Well said , i could not agree more, plain straight and simple, IM is not for lazy people.
    Instead its for hardworking dedicated persons.

    One of the best postings i read thus far on here. I am a newbie, i'm not making a lot now but that only motivates me to work harder.

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  • Profile picture of the author JonMills
    You hit it ONE!

    Get on with it.. work before pleasure
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    • Profile picture of the author Coby
      Originally Posted by nicolas simpson View Post

      Well said , i could not agree more, plain straight and simple, IM is not for lazy people.
      Instead its for hardworking dedicated persons.

      One of the best postings i read thus far on here. I am a newbie, i'm not making a lot now but that only motivates me to work harder.

      Suggestion: For your next vacation you should come and chill out in Jamaica. not now summer is hot!! but maybe next winter.
      Sounds like a plan! Jamaica would be a good reward to myself

      Originally Posted by JonMills View Post

      You hit it ONE!

      Get on with it.. work before pleasure
      My version of your quote ==>> Work hard and the pleasure follows
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  • Profile picture of the author Leanne King
    If you think you have obstacles check out what this guy overcame and the success that followed http://www.problogger.net/archives/2...nge-the-world/ most of us just want change without doing the hard yards
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  • Profile picture of the author Audarah
    I agree, and I am a newbie! You just simply cannot be lazy, but you can't be obsessed either. I've spent the better part of the last two weeks working non stop. A lot of that time working was flipping through things I didn't know, not finding things I wanted to know, and then just generally becoming aggravated. I've wanted to quit a thousand times but haven't. I'm not making a single red cent at all and half the time, I have to keep looking up what certain things mean. But, I'm still trying. My goals are realistic and I do plan to get there.
    Staying motivated is very hard, but becoming lazy is just not an option for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author gilbertm
    I agree. After being online for about 3 years now, it does take work. It takes determination, sweat and tears sometimes. I suggest people get involved with the warrior forum and learn as much as they can. It's just like going to school. One must educate themselves and find something they really enjoy doing.

    Great Post Coby!
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  • Profile picture of the author fyyonn
    There are no overnight riches when it comes to Internet marketing. There is a lot of hard work that needs to be put in. When a person starts out and realises the amount of work that needs to go into their web business they get too overwhelmed and if they approach it with the wrong attitude, they are bound to give up. It is their stickability factor that will determine if they will succeed. Most newbies also get deceived by so many so called gurus and when they don't see the money rolling in, they just throw in the towel. I discovered it requires a lot of hard work and perserverance.. and not forgeting to learn as much as you can from those who have made it.
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  • Profile picture of the author BBryanB
    Stop Being lazy !!

    I have been at this for more than 2 years, and have worked very hard at it, trying to make money.

    Have not been able to crack the nut, but will continue to keep trying.

    There comes a point when the writing is on the wall and I think I am approaching the wall.
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  • Profile picture of the author JingQuimPo
    Lazy or procrastinate, some of the worst enemy of IMs.
    “Don’t stand by the water and long for fish; go home and weave a net.”
    Thats sums it up

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  • Profile picture of the author Khoa
    "We always pass failure on the way to success"

    There's no such thing as easy money. Building a profitable and successful internet business takes time, commitment and hard work. However, the good news is starting and running an internet business is much easier and cheaper than a traditional business.
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    • Profile picture of the author kalaio
      Originally Posted by Khoa View Post

      "We always pass failure on the way to success"

      There's no such thing as easy money. Building a profitable and successful internet business takes time, commitment and hard work. However, the good news is starting and running an internet business is much easier and cheaper than a traditional business.
      There are so many people looking for "easy money", that's why they never get any.. they just keep buying those "one click profit" products that simply don't work.
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  • Profile picture of the author kalaio
    You are abolutely right Coby. For me, the most important rule is to get action. People keep reading and reading information on foruns and don't do nothing at all and then keep whining. Like you said, just choose one way and keep working on that for at least 6 months.
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  • Profile picture of the author uebomoyi
    Amen Coby, preach on, my mind just recently started *shifting* and I've been putting in the work for the past couple of weeks. I've failed multiple times but that hasn't stopped me. It's funny you said 6 months because that's exactly how long I've been going at it and I just started testing different offers, tracking my clicks and speaking to expert marketers that I thought were "too big" for me. But I understand the newbie mindset so well and it's very clear that they want something inside their comfort zone that's fast and simple, I wonder if there would ever be a way to crack the code inside their head- that is if there is one...
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  • Profile picture of the author Stephen Lessey
    This is soo true, its all to often for us including myself to get distracted by the next big launch and move on to another system.

    I've been being lazy for years, and didnt focus on anything. I've come to realize that i have only myself to blame by not treating this as a business.

    I advise that we all should stick to one strategy and don't be afraid to fail. In fact we should expect it. You will lose time and money...get over that and understand where your mistakes are, then learn from there.
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  • Profile picture of the author ghostrecon
    You couldn't be more right, people need to remove the word can't from their vocabulary when it comes to making money online. We all have our ups and downs it's how you deal with them that crafts the kind of business person you are.
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  • Profile picture of the author magnates
    Even though it is not true for everyone , i know that sometimes I just don't take action because i expect to get stuck follwing the steps or i don't think i would enjoy going ahead with . Other times I fly right , and go straight for it .

    You are focus is very important ,Can you focus on building one skill for 6 months
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  • Profile picture of the author bollingjoe
    i have a website in the google frontpage . But traffic is increasing but yet to reach a hundred/day. I haven't made any sales yet. The site came up in february but just made the frontpage. I'm tired wat do i do. The site is my signature
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  • Profile picture of the author Alfredo Carrion
    Sometimes I think online marketers are kind of to blame... we have good copywriters (or personally write in such a way) that people thing online marketing is like a quick get rich scheme or something.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mercy Grace
    What you've said is a wake up call to those who are looking for easy money. I am new in IM and ever day I am learning that perseverance and persistence are the two main things that will get me where I want to go. Thanks for that dose of reality.
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  • Profile picture of the author sylviad
    In 2005, I'd just spent about 6 years stumbling around trying to figure out all this internet stuff, from how browsers work to how to build a web site to how to do some back linking. I've lost count of the horrific site designs I created over the years.

    For the next 6 years, I continued to work persistently, day in and day out hours on end trying to find the answers. In other words, trying to succeed with insufficient guidance, because the products I purchased always left something out.

    After repeated failures, I lost confidence but was soon inspired by new training methods that made a lot of sense. They provided step-by-step instructions that were missing in previous products.

    It's easy for me to see how newbies will lose faith and suffer as I did with disappointment and despair. Before long, you become skeptical, not only of the promises but also that you can even do it and that you will ever be able to make a living online.

    That's when the energy wanes. Concentration is lost. Procrastination sets in. Hope is dashed.

    This is just one scenario.

    It's true there are people who just want instant success, which is a pie-in-the-sky daydream. They don't want to work.

    In other cases, they have been misled by the hype and think that if they work for 3 months, they will be self-supporting with their internet income. When it does not become a reality, their immediate response is that it just doesn't work.

    And remember that people are different. We all learn at different rates in different ways.

    So there are many reasons why someone might say they can't make money online. It doesn't mean all of them are lazy. Perhaps they need to be given the right instructions and then re-inspired, encouraged, and supported.

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  • Profile picture of the author jcruz
    I believe that is why 90% of people fail in this business, is beacuse they don't take real action. They want an instant push button results. You can't blame them though, we do live in an instant gratification society. Why do you think so many kids are having problems with a.d.d nowadays.
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  • Profile picture of the author marston007
    Get rich quick can work, but not until you have learned this craft, and that takes study. Good advice on this thread, very honest about how much is really involved in IM.
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  • Profile picture of the author kmmr12
    This is great advice. IM like any other business takes ALOT of commitment!
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  • Profile picture of the author JerrickYeoh
    i always take lazy and not enough time for me as a poor reason to keep me start my own business online. Until i get scold that money is ready there for me to grab but i not even spend sometime and some effort to grab all of it. lazy really killing someone . That why never use lazy as a reason.
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  • Profile picture of the author dannygnenerate
    People tend to want to be wealthy but don't wrap their minds around getting in the habit of already acting like a wealthy person... That means hard work, studying, working on building a structure structure of knowledge before you benefit from it's bloomings'. It's like any other profession or business you have to work hard before you see the fruits of your labor. It's very enjoyable though especially when you make your first sell. It let's you know that "hey is this is possible, I can duplicate this a thousand times over".
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  • Profile picture of the author markfreedom
    Laziness, fear and lack of confidence are some of the reasons why many people online failed.
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