Why is scaling up so difficult - it drives me NUTS!

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One of my big problems is that i have "somewhat" success with a number of sites, be it clickbank marketing or lately CPA.

For example, i just recently i started with CPA and hit #1 for a keyword and i am now making between $25 - $50 from that one offer per day.

Now, logic says that the simplest thing to do is just to multiply this..if ONE page can make up to $50/day i can make 10 such pages..or 100.

In fact, i have no problems making sites and duplicate all kinds of things which have proven good in the past. I am using the same methods, keyword research, layout of landing pages etc..

It's almost that i am obsessing over this since all i am doing is wanting to scale up based on past experiences.

But...it proves REALLY difficult and it drives me nuts! It's like as if the CPA or Clickbank gods decided i can only make an average amount/day and don't allow me to multiply my earnings.

Example..you can go on your typical CPA program and see they have maybe 1000s of offers. Since i am into SEO all i am looking at is keywords. I am not buying ads or traffic. I do that one offer..success...hit #1 and get my few bucks per day from that one offer.

What about the 999 other offers? Why cant i just repeat this with the other offers? Maybe i am just unlucky since all the other keywords are "un-rankable" or in "bad niches"...or i am STILL not trying "hard enough" even with the last weeks doing nothing than making new pages and promoting new offers. I mean..if i don't "try" i will never know, right?

But i cant just sit back and "relax" since i am far away from what my earnings goal would be.

/rant
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  • Profile picture of the author Christian York
    Good post George,

    Your problem is your business model.

    The business model of creating smallish sites and and ranking them in google and selling clickbank and cpa offers is only good to a certain degree.

    Sure you can make $15-30K per month if you really crank it but that's usually the high end and only after 100+ ranking sites.

    The people who make more than that with these methods are the people that then go and teach others how they were able to achieve these results.

    You mention you don't do paid ads or buying traffic. Can i ask why is that?

    Surely if you find an offer that is converting you would like to push it as hard as possible, and in my experience, paid traffic can be extremely effective. Could be something to look into.

    How about trying local marketing also? You are already really good at seo and keyword research so why not Pre rank sites in your local area (such as criminal lawyer {insert location}) then sell these websites to a criminal lawyer in your area. Because each client is worth a lot of money in these industries, you could easily sell these websites for 1-10 grand each.

    Just my 2c
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  • Dear George,

    This is what's been reported many times by my coaching clients, when we're just starting: as if you have some threshold, and usually even, when you make money in some new source, somehow it evens up so, that you don't go too higher than where you were, anyway.

    It is the matter of, really, the power of your mind, as maybe crazy as it seems. Your income is coming to you as a reflection, a manifestation (sorry for those words, becoming really scammy these days) of your energy regarding your money. And you can work with your money energy, working with your thoughts regarding this subject.

    Why for some people multiplying the income in such gradual way is more easy? Because they take it easier as a "permission slip", that now their income can become higher.

    (I'm really fighting here with words, as I'm more accustomed to speak with people, for whom work with energy is a more usual thing, they're more accustomed to see themselves as not just physical beings, but as physical beings as a frame, but vibrational beings at nature. That's why your thoughts matter - because it's your energy that then gets reflected to you all over the place.)

    So for these other people it's easier to take that "permission slip" and convince themselves, that now they can earn more, and for you, you as it seems, already came to the threshold where you have to do a little more of convincing yourself, that you do deserve it, that it can come to you, that it's an obvious thing to be able to happen, etc.

    It's a work to be done with your beliefs. Obviously you can't just sit back and relax, and it's really not what's required here. But the work is better to be done not in trying to find another physical avenue, where you can "make it happen", "achieve it", but in going down deeper and finding out, what holds you where you are now, and how you can rise from there in your understanding of the situation, - and then the outer reflection will follow.

    Actually, I could congratulate you on coming where you just came. When a person just goes with physical achievements, and goes and goes for it, and it works out for them, then they don't have the motivation to do the inside job. And doing the inside job is an enormous leverage. So it's good that you came to the stage where you're pushed to do it. Believe me, when you do it, it will not only work out for you externally, but it wil also give you a very satisfying, truly satisfying ride.
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  • If you're up to it, George, I could give you some exercises to work with, but if you're really willing to go inside.. And also, I would recommend to you first to find out, what are those beliefs that don't quite allow you to rise higher, as on that also depends, which exercises would be the most effective for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author cinereus
    Originally Posted by GeorgR. View Post

    One of my big problems is that i have "somewhat" success with a number of sites, be it clickbank marketing or lately CPA.

    For example, i just recently i started with CPA and hit #1 for a keyword and i am now making between $25 - $50 from that one offer per day.

    Now, logic says that the simplest thing to do is just to multiply this..if ONE page can make up to $50/day i can make 10 such pages..or 100.

    In fact, i have no problems making sites and duplicate all kinds of things which have proven good in the past. I am using the same methods, keyword research, layout of landing pages etc..

    It's almost that i am obsessing over this since all i am doing is wanting to scale up based on past experiences.

    But...it proves REALLY difficult and it drives me nuts! It's like as if the CPA or Clickbank gods decided i can only make an average amount/day and don't allow me to multiply my earnings.

    Example..you can go on your typical CPA program and see they have maybe 1000s of offers. Since i am into SEO all i am looking at is keywords. I am not buying ads or traffic. I do that one offer..success...hit #1 and get my few bucks per day from that one offer.

    What about the 999 other offers? Why cant i just repeat this with the other offers? Maybe i am just unlucky since all the other keywords are "un-rankable" or in "bad niches"...or i am STILL not trying "hard enough" even with the last weeks doing nothing than making new pages and promoting new offers. I mean..if i don't "try" i will never know, right?

    But i cant just sit back and "relax" since i am far away from what my earnings goal would be.

    /rant
    Different offers are different. It's a simple as that.

    Have you tried to scale in other ways?

    - More sites on the same keywords?
    - More keywords?
    - Buying traffic?
    - Buying more traffic with higher bids?
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  • I guess we see these things from really different points of view. I will not argue about it, several years ago this part of the forum was used by people who understood the value of leveraging the energy. For us it is obvious, that until you do the inner work, the outer searches for the techniques that will do it for you, markets that will do it for you, etc., will be hard, very frustrating and highly not-satisfying. But of course, everyone is learning on their own experience, not on someone's words. Each path is valuable.
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    Olga,

    interesting..to say the least. Basically, in simple words...it's my mind-set, some block inside me which makes me believe that i am only "allotted" that much success but no more. This is INDEED highly interesting because such a mind-set might unconsciously reflect back at how i work and what i do. For example, if i make "a few dollars" a day i stop because "i don't believe" i can easily multiply this..so i am sub-consciously creating this block myself.
    I think i am getting what you are saying.
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    • Originally Posted by GeorgR. View Post

      Olga,

      interesting..to say the least. Basically, in simple words...it's my mind-set, some block inside me which makes me believe that i am only "allotted" that much success but no more. This is INDEED highly interesting because such a mind-set might unconsciously reflect back at how i work and what i do. For example, if i make "a few dollars" a day i stop because "i don't believe" i can easily multiply this..so i am sub-consciously creating this block myself.
      I think i am getting what you are saying.
      Thank you, George, for this reply and cooperation. Taking these steps towards understanding it, you already to some degree smooth out the "obstacles" you meet in this case.

      I wouldn't define it as a "block", rather I would define it as a "frame" that you made yourself comfortable in. We hear from our childhood, that on one hand, we are never successful unless we become rich, but on the other hand, that rich people get money by not-so-honest, not-so-good ways. This is one aspect, to which we somehow need to apply ourselves, to find our "golden edge", where we're rich enough, but not "bad people" yet. Another aspect is, where you are, the frame you used to, is like, your world for you. When that starts to change, you may get the feeling that your world is kind of crashing around you. So you go forward, again, until you feel that you hit the threshold that you are at risk if you cross it. That is to the more or less usual definition of how you tend to stay where you are. If you want to change that, it is better to smooth out these borders of that frame to some degree, soften the definitions that tell you you have to stay where you are.

      This is, as I said, "more or less usual" way to look at it. There is also more "advanced" way to see this situation: your overall income is a reflection of your overall relationship with money. And so to scale up, you need to first scale up vibrationally, so to speak, and then life will bring you ways to scale up physically, too. It is done by going inside and working with your beliefs.

      Usually, though, people, that don't know this, try to just go for physical scaling up, which even if works, works very slowly and in a very hard way, because they loose up on the way, so to speak, - they use the belief, that the more they work, the more money they deserve. Not a very easy way to do things, usually it brings up all kinds of other difficulties, brought by beliefs, which weren't cleared up, but certainly the obvious way for those who don't believe in underlying energies. They will just tell you to go change your business model or find another business avenue. And it will always be your choice, how you go. Listen to your heart.
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  • Profile picture of the author creaver1
    Nice post. You are hitting on an issue which is the main reason I joined this forum. I agree with Christian that at least part of your problem is your business model, but there is also the way the Internet has been evolving.
    Look around here on the forum. Practically everybody has issues with scaling.
    Is there anybody here who built a $100MM company?
    Many of the people on this forum really need to think and act very differently if they want to make "real money".

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