I Don't Write Down Goals

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Does anyone else not?

I have goals -- tremendous goals. I just don't necessarily feel the need to write them down when I know they are at the forefront of my being. If I write them down and post them on a note on my monitor, I'll always see it. Which means that eventually it'll just be "there".

I know that writing down goals is one of the most used methods toward success, but I don't know if that's always applicable.

Am I mad? Am I doing something wrong? Is it just different?

My daily goal is to always progress forward -- I don't need a note to know that. I was able to get a great deal of work done (I'm waiting for something to get back to me, until then I'm preparing for a launch).

What say you?
#goals #write
  • Profile picture of the author Justin Says
    I think this relates a lot to plans.

    I'm not a planner.

    I feel that plans can get in the way of innovation.

    If you think of something, do it. As long as you know it's going to move you forward.

    Now, goals are great to have, if you set them small. Don't set huge goals because things might change.

    Every single day we change in so many different ways.

    Focus on just doing what is now and progressing yourself further.

    If you do set a big goal, remember that the goal can change over time.
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    • Profile picture of the author buckeyes09
      Originally Posted by Justin Lewis View Post

      I think this relates a lot to plans.

      I'm not a planner.

      I feel that plans can get in the way of innovation.

      If you think of something, do it. As long as you know it's going to move you forward.

      Now, goals are great to have, if you set them small. Don't set huge goals because things might change.

      Every single day we change in so many different ways.

      Focus on just doing what is now and progressing yourself further.

      If you do set a big goal, remember that the goal can change over time.
      It's not so much even that, but rather that my schedule is so sparadic that I sometimes have a lot of time to dedicate, and other times not. Plus, I look at future obstacles and realize that I need the marbles to be in a row for my goals to be met.

      I have a fairly rigid "mental schedule", as I'll think about what I want to do for the day. I may not have hard numbers, but I know that I want to spend sometime in the afternoon on this, have dinner then, wrap up for IM for the day for enough time to call my dad and have some Johnnie Walker -- you probably get the idea.

      But you're right about that innovation. My best ideas come at night when my mind is wandering. Although I may not start executing those ideas, I write them down with as much detail as I'll need to execute them later. I find if I do work "whenever" I don't feel so stressed out about finishing my work. And often I'll do a better job more efficiently.
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  • Profile picture of the author tk226
    It's ok. Follow what is already working. Your goals seems to be neatly implanted into your subconscious mind and every time they propelling you forward to achieve them.
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  • Profile picture of the author abugah
    No. You are not mad.

    You will still make it even when you don't write goals.
    But you could do it quicker if you did write your goals.
    Perhaps you are aware of the Harvard graduates study. Where 10 years on 3% of the people with written goals had wealth equivalent to the 97% combined.

    That's probably the biggest evidence of the power of goals-not necessarily written.
    As far as I understand the study, the 97% underachievers did not have goals at all written or unwritten.

    I know many people who have succeed in many areas without written goals. It was clear in their minds what they wanted to achieve but it was not put on paper.

    That not withstanding, I would rather you form a habit of writing your goals.
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  • Profile picture of the author Eric S
    I have had the same mindset before and completely understand it. However, while it's on your mind all the time, it helps to see it. I would start with writing down a daily goal every morning and do whatever it takes to get it done. For me it adds a level of accomplishment that I don't get when I just keep the thought in my mind.
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  • Profile picture of the author AaronMorton
    @abugah the study you mention was a Yale study and has found not to exist. Last reports suggest it came from Zig Ziglar, but despite numerous attempts to find said study, no one has been successful.

    buckeyes09 The only time you would need to right down goals is if you were attempting to prove that writing down goals is the best method for achieving success. A better measure of efficiency is establishing a criteria for knowing when you have achieved each milestone towards your goal.

    As long as you achieve your goal, it doesn't matter if you write them down; what is important is you have a method that works for you to achieve your goal. That could be vastly different to everyone else. You might find you are more successful if you sacrifice a goat and was 2 Disney movies a day. If it works for you great, but avoid feeling the need to write down goals because someone else told you to.

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    • Profile picture of the author abugah
      Originally Posted by AaronMorton View Post

      @abugah the study you mention was a Yale study and has found not to exist. Last reports suggest it came from Zig Ziglar, but despite numerous attempts to find said study, no one has been successful.

      buckeyes09 The only time you would need to right down goals is if you were attempting to prove that writing down goals is the best method for achieving success. A better measure of efficiency is establishing a criteria for knowing when you have achieved each milestone towards your goal.

      As long as you achieve your goal, it doesn't matter if you write them down; what is important is you have a method that works for you to achieve your goal. That could be vastly different to everyone else. You might find you are more successful if you sacrifice a goat and was 2 Disney movies a day. If it works for you great, but avoid feeling the need to write down goals because someone else told you to.

      Aaron Morton

      Thanks for the correction.

      While we are still on goals...
      Looks like the Bible has a lot to say about goals. Habakkuk 2:2 says "Write down the revelation and make it plain on tablets so that a herald may run with it.'' (NIV VERSION)

      It seems to me that writing is important.
      You may read a collection of Bible verses about goals here:
      What Does the Bible Say About Setting Goals?


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    • Profile picture of the author SanjeevM
      Originally Posted by AaronMorton View Post

      @abugah the study you mention was a Yale study and has found not to exist.
      Yes, I read that too - I think in a book called '59 Seconds', if I remember right.

      Like most people I don't write down goals for all areas of life, like many self-help experts want you to. But I do write down goals for my businesses.

      I find that written financial (and other) objectives are very helpful in prioritizing your daily actions.

      Also, when you are on the verge of missing an objective, sitting down with your partners (mastermind group or whatever) and reviewing your written documents provides the impetus to scramble and go all out to meet the goals. That's certainly very useful.

      Having said that, stick to what works for you. There isn't any one size fits all here.

      Thanks!
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      • Profile picture of the author Ltespd
        I write down goals when I'm trying to accomplish something thats going to take some time, and hard work. It helps to keep me focused.
        Also I don't see any downside in writing down achievable goals, only positives.
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    • Profile picture of the author buckeyes09
      Originally Posted by AaronMorton View Post

      buckeyes09 The only time you would need to right down goals is if you were attempting to prove that writing down goals is the best method for achieving success. A better measure of efficiency is establishing a criteria for knowing when you have achieved each milestone towards your goal.

      As long as you achieve your goal, it doesn't matter if you write them down; what is important is you have a method that works for you to achieve your goal. That could be vastly different to everyone else. You might find you are more successful if you sacrifice a goat and was 2 Disney movies a day. If it works for you great, but avoid feeling the need to write down goals because someone else told you to.

      Aaron Morton
      I suppose I don't write down the goals because there are too many extenuating circumstances that must be met. I mean, I can make a goal of how many niche Amazon sites I make, how many WSOs I create, but it's more difficult to say how long it will take to make a monetary amount. Once one reaches a tipping point, he or she can probably start attaching a monetary amount. Until that tipping point occurs, it's a little more difficult.
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  • Profile picture of the author weebeastie
    I don't write down goals either.

    But I do something called 7 things. I forget where I got it, something about high powered executives. At the end of the day I make a list of 7 things I want to do tomorrow in priority. As they are completed I check off the little box.

    I cut down a hardboard clipboard (not plastic) to 6 1/2" x 4 3/4" then with word for windows I made up a small form 5 3/4" x 4 1/4" with 7 boxes and lines. I stuck 4 on a sheet of paper and scanned them and put the sheets in a file. When I run out I take the paper cutter and chop up some forms and I'm ready to go for a while.

    The clip board hangs out on the desk and sometimes it gets put in the car as I run through errands or tasks. It's very handy you wind up doing what you deem a priority without getting sidetracked too much. Sorry about getting so windy but it ends up being a system that I can live with, pals like it too.
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  • Profile picture of the author AaronMorton
    I think this thread is showing how something that is almost set in stone in the personal development world (you must write down goals) isn't always the case. As long as your criteria for success is matching up with what is happening in your reality, if that doesn't involve writing goals down, it isn't important.

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    • Profile picture of the author abugah
      Originally Posted by AaronMorton View Post

      I think this thread is showing how something that is almost set in stone in the personal development world (you must write down goals) isn't always the case. As long as your criteria for success is matching up with what is happening in your reality, if that doesn't involve writing goals down, it isn't important.

      Aaron Morton
      Very true. It looks like people do not like challenging personal development GURUS.

      Whereas I write goals for my personal use, a habit I formed about 7 years ago, I can tell you for sure that I achieved success in school and in other areas of life without ever writing goals.

      As an adult with more responsibilities, challenges and too many activities going on, I find writing things down helps.

      However, I do not know what effect it would have if I stopped writing goals. If positive or negative, by what percentage?

      Would my income drop by 5%, 10%, 30% if I stopped writing goals? For that matter would it increase?

      I have heard some figures mentioned by personal development GURUs about the effect of writing goals. However, I have not seen any evidence. Perhaps anyone who has seen can shed light on this.
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      • Profile picture of the author buckeyes09
        Originally Posted by abugah View Post

        Very true. It looks like people do not like challenging personal development GURUS.

        Whereas I write goals for my personal use, a habit I formed about 7 years ago, I can tell you for sure that I achieved success in school and in other areas of life without ever writing goals.

        As an adult with more responsibilities, challenges and too many activities going on, I find writing things down helps.

        However, I do not know what effect it would have if I stopped writing goals. If positive or negative, by what percentage?

        Would my income drop by 5%, 10%, 30% if I stopped writing goals? For that matter would it increase?

        I have heard some figures mentioned by personal development GURUs about the effect of writing goals. However, I have not seen any evidence. Perhaps anyone who has seen can shed light on this.
        I haven an obsessive personality (which ostensibly has its pluses and minuses), but I'd continually try to outdo myself. When I've outdone myself online, I'll move to offline ventures and so forth.

        This definitely seems like a person-by-person thing. For many people, they need goals (maybe because I'm so future-oriented writing goals seem redundant?) written down. Perhaps I would have gotten more accomplished if I wrote down goals.
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  • Profile picture of the author KateOranum
    I have the goals in my head because they are so there I dont need to write them down - the road to succsess and the steps I need to make in order to reach the goal - I must write down and keep track
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  • Profile picture of the author StephanieMojica
    I've found that by writing things down, such as notes from a teleseminar or goals, that it helps cement those ideas in my being even if I never look at the paper again.

    Hand-writing rather than typing is ideal, as well as posting goals in visible places around your house (such as the ceiling above your bed or the bathroom mirror.)

    Good luck!

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  • Profile picture of the author AppsFromHome
    I have thought the same way before...knowing my own goals and not needing to write them down.

    BUT, with life being the way it is, things do slip your mind....I am butchering this quote but it goes along the lines of "Success is completing the small tasks everyday".

    So your IM goals could be dependent on doing those small tasks like writing a new article, making a few more cold calls, or finding more backlinks.

    Personally, I have an overall goal list hanging in the office for the year then use a to do list EVERY day....it really does help.
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  • Profile picture of the author GT
    Hi, Christian: Some people need to write their goals down and others work sufficiently well without written goals. If it's working for you, then that's what counts. The main thing is simply to have firm, clear goals in mind. If they are clear enough, they will be sufficient to motivate a person and keep him or her focused.

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  • Profile picture of the author Seven3
    If you can be successful without clearly set goals congratulations, you are highly motivated and have good self discipline.

    However just because YOU (not directed at anyone in particular) have those qualities, it doesn't mean everybody else does.

    Everyone is different and what works for some may not for others, and vice versa.

    Goal setting is still a useful tool for many people, especially those having trouble with self discipline and motivation.

    We are all individual and unique

    Just something to consider.
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    • Profile picture of the author CTgreen
      Personally, I have a hard time putting serious thoughts of any kind into words (writing or typing). I don't write down goals, or keep a journal, or even make to-do lists.

      Thoughts aren't words, and words aren't thoughts. They're just sort of a substitute for one another; a kind of mental currency, if you will. A way for us to communicate ideas and thoughts to one another (until we evolve telepathy). :p

      I think it has a lot to do with your personality type, and other factors relating to how your mind works. Some people are very comfortable confining their thoughts into words; others, less so.

      It also has a lot to do with your creativity & intelligence -- some of the most brilliant people aren't able to use words/writing to portray their mind, because the language just isn't... vibrant enough (for lack of a better word). :rolleyes: Or maybe they are just visual people, and words, writing, lists and such just don't work for them.

      Not to mention, as a personal philosophy, I don't value things like lists, goals, photographs, affirmations, and the like very highly (when they are meant for yourself; obviously the world with these things would be poorer for their absence). If something is so damn important, how about, oh, I don't know, remembering it? :p

      I think people rely too much on outside devices, rather than using their mind. As others have said, if a thing really is worth aiming your future toward, chances are you should be able to remember it without sticky notes.

      My semi-off-topic, excessively long post is now over.
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      • Profile picture of the author buckeyes09
        Originally Posted by CTgreen View Post

        It also has a lot to do with your creativity & intelligence -- some of the most brilliant people aren't able to use words/writing to portray their mind, because the language just isn't... vibrant enough (for lack of a better word).
        Yeah, I keep telling myself that, too.
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  • Profile picture of the author buckeyes09
    Different strokes for different folks. I just find it unusual because most motivators state that everyone must write down goals. I don't believe everyone needs to, even if the preponderance of society would find that advantageous.
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  • Profile picture of the author HKSEO Jonbones
    For me, having my goals written out where I can see them reminds me of them, and gives me expectations to meet, as well as making me accountable for accomplishing them.

    A personal preference, just makes me think about them more, and more about how to accomplish them, rather than simply thinking about where I'd like to be with the goals completed.
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  • Profile picture of the author ProScribe
    I do write down goals but I find they work best for short term planning like daily and weekly targets.

    As others like Justin have pointed out your longer term goals can be dynamic and shift.

    One thing that I do think is good about written goals is that it gives you something to refer back to. You can look at them and say that's what you should be working on right now.
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    • Profile picture of the author buckeyes09
      Originally Posted by ProScribe View Post

      One thing that I do think is good about written goals is that it gives you something to refer back to. You can look at them and say that's what you should be working on right now.
      That is pretty neat. Some material for my future memoir.
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  • Profile picture of the author kayshaw
    Hi Christian,
    I don't think there's anything wrong with not writing down goals if you can remember them all. Are you young? The only reason I ask because when I was a bit younger I didn't write down my goals because I remembered them, now that I'm a few years older, I don't remember things quite as well, so I need to write them down.
    However, you should get used to writing down ideas because I don't care how good a memory you have, you are not going to remember every (potentially) great idea that pops in there.
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  • Profile picture of the author buckeyes09
    I'm 25, but have been in my 40s for over ten years.
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  • Profile picture of the author imda123
    Your goals seems to be neatly implanted into your subconscious mind and every time they propelling you forward to achieve them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jim Guererro
    I think it's great to have a great mind. Writing goals down is a personal choice. Whether it's one goal or 100 goals, writing them down can be tedious. However, for me the pros outweigh the cons in goal writing. That's because even one goal can encompass many steps before the goal can be materialized.

    Goal writing for me just lays out the mini checkpoints that must be completed in order for the goal to be completed. Especially if I take my eyes off the prize. Life gets in the way, taking care of other people, recovering from viruses, and other unforeseen events. Having a written roadmap of sorts certainly helps me get back on the road to recovery and knowing what needs to be done next.
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  • Profile picture of the author vufxteam
    im the opposite. i always write down my goals. most of the time i include the reasons for my goals. it serves as a reminder as to why i was after this target in the first place.
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisDH
    My whole business started turning around when I sorted myself out and started planning my stuff out and creating goals.

    I used to know what needed to be done but found it extremely hard to get it done because it was all just bashing around in my head somewhere. This led me to get easily distracted and sometimes miss what is right there in front of me.

    I have actually just made a blog post about this exact thing and an interesting article I found.

    Chris Haldenby - Its Right There In Front of us |

    One of my best investments I have made so far has been a white board. I went from being an unorganized mess to being totally hooked on writing everything down on my board and in turn getting things done.
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  • Profile picture of the author SEOLee
    Well it depends what you are doing. If you are just some guy who has no plans and doesn't know what the hell to do then he probably wont write anything down as there isn't any need to.

    When you do work for people, like I do SEO for people. You have to write down the goals for completing peoples orders etc otherwise you will be lost as f###
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    • Profile picture of the author buckeyes09
      Originally Posted by SEOLee View Post

      Well it depends what you are doing. If you are just some guy who has no plans and doesn't know what the hell to do then he probably wont write anything down as there isn't any need to.

      When you do work for people, like I do SEO for people. You have to write down the goals for completing peoples orders etc otherwise you will be lost as f###
      Well, I'm certainly not a person without plans. And I also don't have order, so I don't need to worry about those "goals"....
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Shat
    No, you are not a mad.A lot of people like you are not planners.If you are focused enough at your goal and you are really satisfied from within then plan your steps in mind.But I still insist to plan your goal by writting as it helps focusing better.At last you are your best guide. You can study yourself better and can know what works on you the best.
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  • Profile picture of the author muzzy4u2
    Originally Posted by buckeyes09 View Post

    Does anyone else not?

    I have goals -- tremendous goals. I just don't necessarily feel the need to write them down when I know they are at the forefront of my being. If I write them down and post them on a note on my monitor, I'll always see it. Which means that eventually it'll just be "there".

    I know that writing down goals is one of the most used methods toward success, but I don't know if that's always applicable.

    Am I mad? Am I doing something wrong? Is it just different?

    My daily goal is to always progress forward -- I don't need a note to know that. I was able to get a great deal of work done (I'm waiting for something to get back to me, until then I'm preparing for a launch).

    What say you?
    No you are not Mad. Its normal/ok but its better if you write them as it will help in cementing your goals properly rather keeping in mind as there is so much of distraction in our life.

    Therefore if you have written goals you can always refer them back whenever you want as there are chances of forgetting if one just keep them in their mind.
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  • Profile picture of the author Will Edwards
    Originally Posted by buckeyes09 View Post

    My daily goal is to always progress forward -- I don't need a note to know that.
    Christian, with all dues respect, that is not a goal. You need to think about what you are moving towards and - perhaps - that is your goal.

    With regard to writing them down, there are many who will tell you why you should. Personally, I don't think you absolutely need to do that. But, in your case, I think it might help you to clarify your thinking.

    Start with the big goals and then set shorter-terms goals that are steps along the way to your big goals. And remember the old SMART acronym when you do it ...

    Personal Development: How to Set and Achieve a Goal

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  • Profile picture of the author Jerome Y
    I believe the idea of writing down your goals is for your mind to clearly see what is it you want in your life. By having it on paper, it is a physical reminder for whatever it is you are aiming for.

    If you are someone that gets distracted easily and jumps from one thing to another, writing down your goals is definitely for you. For people who are absolutely clear on their goals, all they need is to picture it and it's there, writing down your goals would then be redundant. That's my 0.2cents.
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    • Profile picture of the author nipsyr
      I think you can do anything you want of course.

      For me, I have a lot to do and keep track of.


      Goals are written down with the steps to achieve that goal. Then I work the steps until the goal is done.
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