Hack your Brain

Banned 12 years ago

I did the Uberman for a little while, and it worked out fine for me personally. The problem came when I didn't have enough crap to do to fill 22 waking hours everyday, so I dropped it. Making myself more socially available was a big factor too.

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JohnGaltMarket

12 years ago

I didn't know about that, but truly this looks like what I did back then when I got my first BIG MONEY from online marketing without being aware of it!
Thank you, you helped me to understand myself.

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Fahmzie

12 years ago

Hmm i didnt know about that too...lol

I think the best method (and maintain interaction with other people) is to use "everyday 3-nap" just like you do.

Anyway, i have to try this

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JD Ways

12 years ago

I've never heard of this? I'll have to try it and get back to you on the results!!

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Joseph Robinson Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by JD Ways

I've never heard of this? I'll have to try it and get back to you on the results!!

Be ready for 7-10 days of absolute hell lol. Oh and make sure that you are top notch on your diet. Junk food will absolutely ruin you. If you get that in line, throw in some exercise, and don't slip up during the transition period it can be quite beneficial.
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Evocess

12 years ago

Originally Posted by IulianP

About 1 year ago I found this article:

Sleep (or how to hack your brain) + Dustin Curtis

I was very interested and I started with the first step that is only a nap in the afternoon and I went on and on.

Personally I have to say that I feel great and I never feel asleep! I am on the ''everyday 3-nap'' man and I just feel great + I have a lot more time to do what I want :-)

What do you guys think?

Did anyone ever tested this theory on himself?

Thanks for this kind of post. I never heard like this before.

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IulianP

12 years ago

I agree with Joe! The first days you might feel a bit tired but soon after you will start feeling better and se e the benefits.

Also what you have to understand in the first days is how long it takes you to get asleep because you should add that time to the 20-30 minutes nap :-). I get asleep in about 5 minutes now, even less

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suhrandy

12 years ago

this is new to me ...

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ProScribe

12 years ago

Thanks for contributing Joe and Iulian, it was really interesting to hear from someone who has put this into practice.

When I read the four hour body I found the idea of the Ubermensch schedule was very interesting (and the names cool) although I thought it would be difficult to put into practice if you are in a relationship. Which in the book was why Matt Mullenweg gave it up.

I've been using the diet from the four hour body for about the last month, so maybe its time to give one of the everyman schedules a go as well.

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Joseph Robinson

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by ProScribe

When I read the four hour body I found the idea of the Ubermensch schedule was very interesting (and the names cool) although I thought it would be difficult to put into practice if you are in a relationship. Which in the book was why Matt Mullenweg gave it up.

That is definitely the main drawback to the Uberman in my opinion: it's a stress on personal relationships. You really can't skip those naps or move around the times too much, or your body is just devastated from lack of sleep. I'm grateful that I was single at the time, and would not try it in a relationship.

Like IulianP pointed out, getting yourself to sleep in that time frame can be a bit challenging too. I didn't schedule extra time for myself to get to sleep while I adjusted. I wanted the full 22 hours of benefit lol. Instead, I just laid down, set an alarm for 20 minutes, and was up no matter what. It took a lot of discipline at first.

Anyways, your body eventually wises up and realizes that when you put your head down, it's time to go to sleep (and straight into an REM state) now. It's crazy the way that you can train your brain.

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ProScribe

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Joe Robinson

That is definitely the main drawback to the Uberman in my opinion: it's a stress on personal relationships. You really can't skip those naps or move around the times too much, or your body is just devastated from lack of sleep. I'm grateful that I was single at the time, and would not try it in a relationship.

Like IulianP pointed out, getting yourself to sleep in that time frame can be a bit challenging too. I didn't schedule extra time for myself to get to sleep while I adjusted. I wanted the full 22 hours of benefit lol. Instead, I just laid down, set an alarm for 20 minutes, and was up no matter what. It took a lot of discipline at first.

Anyways, your body eventually wises up and realizes that when you put your head down, it's time to go to sleep (and straight into an REM state) now. It's crazy the way that you can train your brain.

Thanks for sharing your experience with this Joe, I think that you were able to make the leap and discipline yourself to do it is something that you can be proud of.

The thing that I like most about Timothy Ferris is that he isn't afraid to push himself and try stuff out, even if the exact consequences are unkown. I think just the act of making yourself doing something that doesn't come naturally has value in itself.

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asuran

12 years ago

This is a great method. My problem is when I approach bed my wife would not let me to sleep.

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prismkuet

12 years ago

First time hearing this. Let me have a try and get back to you soon.

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TamilYoung

12 years ago

Great one Iulian. Polyphasic sleep is said to do really great things in life. Sharing this one for the warriors out here. Polyphasic Sleep

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Preeti

12 years ago

To be honest, I would have never thought about trying this before because I had a corporate full-time job and well..being found snoozing away in my cubicle wouldn't have been appreciated lol

However, now that I work from home..I think it's pretty interesting, I already take siestas but was never even aware of this type of sleeping habits and its benefits..thanks Iulian for the share!

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therenegadeleader

12 years ago

I still choose 8 hours straight sleeping.

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David Sneen

12 years ago

This polyphasic sleep seems too radical for me. I am surprised to hear so many positive responses to it. It was my impression that you need a minimum of one major four to five hour sleep period a night--to get you through your dream cycle. Maybe I will have to do more research.

I have been sleeping five hours at night with a 20-30 minute nap in the afternoon with great results.

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Joseph Robinson Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by David Sneen

It was my impression that you need a minimum of one major four to five hour sleep period a night--to get you through your dream cycle.

That's the point of this "brain hack", your body realizes that it is not going to be given the time to go through the first 4 (not entirely necessary) sleep cycles to get to the REM stage. So when you go there it goes straight to it to allow necessary healing and functions to occur.
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vpunch

12 years ago

I've been trying to get 5 hours every night, but using Binaural beats through headphones. It's supposed to put you in a delta REM state all night so your sleep is more productive, however I have had no benefits yet.

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Luke Frisby

12 years ago

IMHO cutting down your sleep time, although going immediately with this programme is devastating to your organism.

As Joe Robinson mentioned:

Be ready for 7-10 days of absolute hell lol. Oh and make sure that you are top notch on your diet. Junk food will absolutely ruin you. If you get that in line, throw in some exercise, and don't slip up during the transition period it can be quite beneficial.

In addition this way is only possible if you're willing to work ONLY at the desk and do some office stuff. If you would go to gym few times a week, be ready to waste your time because your brain can regenerate but your muscules CAN'T.
Think about yourself.

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Joseph Robinson

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Luke Frisby

In addition this way is only possible if you're willing to work ONLY at the desk and do some office stuff. If you would go to gym few times a week, be ready to waste your time because your brain can regenerate but your muscules CAN'T.
Think about yourself.

I kept up a 6 day a week workout routine and added 4 pounds of muscle in the time that I did the Uberman, so that is not entirely true.

Blanket statements don't work Luke, everything is situational

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Luke Frisby

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Joe Robinson

I kept up a 6 day a week workout routine and added 4 pounds of muscle in the time that I did the Uberman, so that is not entirely true.

Blanket statements don't work Luke, everything is situational

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Sure, but what I want to add is that your muscules are trained 24/7 and even with those 20 min naps they had to grew to challange pounds that you're lifting.
Long term routine can cause damage to your muscules. What differs muscules and brain is that giving them a break from workout is enough but while sleeping your body is totally relaxed and loose what gives you better effects.

Going further... I bet you already know that stretching is best way to keep your muscules fit and healthy. Before and after training

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Joseph Robinson

Banned 12 years ago

Over the long term I'm sure it isn't good for your health. I wouldn't imagine anyone would want to try this for more than a few months at a time though. You can only fight nature so long...

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Joseph Robinson

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Richard Raphael

This is something that everybody should read.

Actually, it's not something that everyone can do. Studies throughout the internet show that less than 2% are successful with the Uberman for more than a month, and about 20% are successful with any variation of the everyman.

It is definitely worth a shot if you are physically fit and mentally disciplined; but not everyone fits that bill.

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mrelk159

12 years ago

I never tried this but I will give it a try to see how it works, it looks promising.

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ezplr

12 years ago

Never heard of that gonna check it out

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Ender Ayanethos

12 years ago

I'm doing polyphasic sleep right now. I tried uberman for 10 days and kept oversleeping, so I switched to E5, or the everyman 5. It's a core sleep of 1.5 hours and 5 20 minute naps spaced evenly around the clock. There's a link to my blog in my signature. I'm on day 14 as I write this and have seriously bosted my productivity already.

I'm going for 30 days. After that, I'll be free to make a decision about whether I want to continue or not.

Cheers,
Ender

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hireava

12 years ago

I never heard of this before. I hope it takes effect on me positively. Thanks for the info!

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unknowncat

12 years ago

WOW!!!! i do love the REM, and would like to get more time in life.

But I wonder if I could have the discipline to really do that.

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Viramara

12 years ago

Since it's very much my niche, I'm studying sleep too. Human and mammals are naturally polyphasic. Can you even see it in infants! But as we grow up, and tied to 9-5 schedule, we are FORCED to leave the polyphasic pattern, and entering the monophasic.

Taking a nap of not more than 30 minutes each day has been scientifically proven to recharge your brain. But take a nap more than it, and you'll ruin yourself making your body more exhausted and night-sleep difficulty.

I personally find napping not more than 30 minutes is tricky. It's always 1 and half hour, which really ruined my day. I had to sleep in a very uncomfortable position or situation, such as in bus or classroom, and have satisfied with 10 minutes. My boyfriend taught me "lying still like corpse" napping technique to get yourself into sleep paralysis 20 minutes later. Works for him but Always failed to me. I'd rather not napping to get on with my daily schedule.