Tithing and Giving to Get Rich?

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Many spiritual gurus recommend tithing to get rich.

I am curious to know who here does not tithe but still manage to make a lot of money.

As for those who believe in tithing, do you tithe to a Church or to some other place?

What about giving? What places to you believe in giving to that will do good?

I would like to find out different views from people about this.

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Added the following post here on August 12, 2012 (+8GMT):

Instead of "Rich", I would like to say "Create Abundance". I would like to start afresh with some new information and new questions instead.

1. Many spiritual sources say it is good to practice Tithing because it creates positive Karma, and even clears Karmic debt.

2. Some say putting money to support our own life's work (e.g. business) will increase our abundance.

3. Some say spending money itself is already a form of giving.

"Now, let’s talk about that subject of “tithing” for just a moment. A lot of people ask about tithing, because they have been told that there is benefit in it. And they’re usually told that by those who will receive the benefit from their tithing. In other words, “tithing is a good thing, give your money to me and your life will be better,” is the general picture of tithing. The reason that tithing is beneficial is because, if you feel abundant enough that you have excess that you don’t have to have — the excess is a vibration of Well-being. In other words, “I’ve not only got enough money for what I need, I have extra money,” and so, it’s that vibration of Well-being that allows more dollars to flow. So we encourage that you “tithe” your clothing account, that you “tithe” your vacation account, that you “tithe” your eating-at-a-special-restaurant account. In other words, you don’t have to tithe a church or a guru. Tithe yourself, but get into the attitude of excess. In other words, “not only can I meet my basic requirements, but I have excess that I can do other things with,” because it’s that vibration of abundance, that vibration of excess."
- Abraham Hicks

"To increase the flow of money, you must exercise your ability to spend it. This is no different from increasing physical energy by exercising your body. Pinching your dollar to save money is like staying physically inactive to conserve energy. Some would say this makes sense, that to increase money one must stop spending it freely, and to increase physical energy one must conserve it. However, in the long run this leads to nothing less than atrophy. Some would say it is paradoxical that in order to increase physical energy one must expend it – but that is precisely what’s needed. Exercise increases your capacity to generate and handle a greater amount of physical energy. Likewise, by exercising your ability to spend money without reservation, you increase your capacity for handling greater flows of money and so flow naturally increases. What the Matrix tells us is once again backwards from the truth. You increase money by spending it."
- Montalk.net

"When you spend to progress, you prosper."
- Cassiopaean Transcripts

So what are you views on Tithing vs Spending vs Putting money in life's work (e.g. business, advertising, promotion)?

Please read my reply at Post #29 for my current beliefs as well. Here is the shortcut link:
http://www.warriorforum.com/mind-war...ml#post6779784

Or you can also scroll to #29. Thank you.

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Added the following post here on August 16, 2012 (+8GMT):

I am seeing a number of posts made about "expectation" or "non-expectation" of a return from tithing or giving.

As a practioner of Seed Money Expectation of a return, I can tell you that expectation + giving works 100%.

All masters who are truly enlightened about the truth always talk about giving, expectation and the harvest.

For all those who think non-expectation works, read my post #37 to understand why.

Anyway the main focus of this forum topic is about tithing vs giving vs spending. And also about each person's experience with tithing vs not-tithing, and also where/how they choose to give/spend their money, and the results or non-results they get from doing so.

I am not interested in debating whether one should expect or not expect a return from their giving.

This is not what I aim to do here, so please make posts that are related to main focus of the topic.
#giving #rich #tithing
  • Profile picture of the author onlinemarketer23
    hey mate,

    congrats for your question that sincerely has been recurrent on my mind!!

    tithing means from my point of view gives away the place you feel from the bottom of your heart deserves your money because they´re doing something that makes you feel right or a better person.. for instance.. i´ve tithed some money to nature and animals advocating organizations as i love nature and animals!! and the act of heling them out is a way of giving myself a chance to be happier and fulfilled.. just make sure you tithe the amount of money which perfectly tailors to your current income conditions or level.

    what it really matters is the gesture of giving with love and sincerity!! not how much you are able to give away!!

    write down some places you love or admire because of they are doing!! but talk to yourself from your heart.. there its where it comes out the true wisdom!!

    cheers and good day fella.. keepin´ up and see ya on the top!!:-)

    attractmoneynow.com/ - go to this site and grab the gift book on there. its really pure gold on how to attract more money in our lives.. hope you like it so much!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Global365
    Originally Posted by MindReality View Post

    Many spiritual gurus recommend tithing to get rich.

    I am curious to know who here does not tithe but still manage to make a lot of money.

    As for those who believe in tithing, do you tithe to a Church or to some other place?

    What about giving? What places to you believe in giving to that will do good?

    I would like to find out different views from people about this.
    Not to be cynical, but with the rampant mismanagement from charities and churches If you were serious about tithing I would form my own non profit that I had 100% control over so you know your dollars were going to where you want and not to where some out of touch or greedy charity manager wanted to pay for his mistress and lifestyle..
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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    you would be better off just handing the guys on the street enough to buy a bear and something else than giving to most charities ..

    giving back was the old mindset in a world where you had to be cutthroat to get ahead ..

    instead figure out a way to get wealthy that helps many other people .. in the end if you give money.. it is not for any greater purpose than the acknowledge you are in a place that you have more than enough and can get some joy from giving it away .

    think differently about giving ..could you walk into a local hospital and say ..pay part of the medicle bills for some kids cancer treatments.. or whatever .. and do it without knoe one but you and the person taking payment at the hospital knowing it was you ..

    If you have it to give .. find a way to give that is fun for you ..
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  • I just started giving tithes a few weeks ago. And from my experience when i wasn't active attending church we were really having a hard time financially and spiritually. So i guess you will not be blessed without tithing and giving. But i also believe that you will not get rich nit just in terms of money. Could be your spiritual life, could be you as a person or anything that want to change in yourself or life back when you weren't active in giving tithes. Also tithing isn't the only way for us to get rich, we have talents, skills that we can use to earn money. We just need to know how to use them in a right way.
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    • Profile picture of the author MindReality
      What is the difference between tithing and giving elsewhere?

      Are there those who do not tithe but give their money in other ways, and experience financial abundance as well?
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      • Profile picture of the author gtolive
        Tithing and giving else were don't really have a thick line between them because you also give to God when giving to those tin need. Though is more better doing it in the church but shouldn't stop one from giving outside the church as well.
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      • Originally Posted by MindReality View Post

        What is the difference between tithing and giving elsewhere?

        Are there those who do not tithe but give their money in other ways, and experience financial abundance as well?
        Tithing is giving 10% of whatever you've earned or unearned gifts while giving or offerings are gifts. It may not be in a form of money it could be food, clothes and others. And by doing this two we will have more than what we need to live and provide for our families.
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        • Profile picture of the author MindReality
          1. Many spiritual sources say it is good to practice Tithing because it creates positive Karma, and even clears Karmic debt.

          2. Some say putting money to support our own life's work (e.g. business) will increase our abundance.

          3. Some say spending money itself is already a form of giving.

          "Now, let's talk about that subject of "tithing" for just a moment. A lot of people ask about tithing, because they have been told that there is benefit in it. And they're usually told that by those who will receive the benefit from their tithing. In other words, "tithing is a good thing, give your money to me and your life will be better," is the general picture of tithing. The reason that tithing is beneficial is because, if you feel abundant enough that you have excess that you don't have to have -- the excess is a vibration of Well-being. In other words, "I've not only got enough money for what I need, I have extra money," and so, it's that vibration of Well-being that allows more dollars to flow. So we encourage that you "tithe" your clothing account, that you "tithe" your vacation account, that you "tithe" your eating-at-a-special-restaurant account. In other words, you don't have to tithe a church or a guru. Tithe yourself, but get into the attitude of excess. In other words, "not only can I meet my basic requirements, but I have excess that I can do other things with," because it's that vibration of abundance, that vibration of excess."
          - Abraham Hicks

          "To increase the flow of money, you must exercise your ability to spend it. This is no different from increasing physical energy by exercising your body. Pinching your dollar to save money is like staying physically inactive to conserve energy. Some would say this makes sense, that to increase money one must stop spending it freely, and to increase physical energy one must conserve it. However, in the long run this leads to nothing less than atrophy. Some would say it is paradoxical that in order to increase physical energy one must expend it - but that is precisely what's needed. Exercise increases your capacity to generate and handle a greater amount of physical energy. Likewise, by exercising your ability to spend money without reservation, you increase your capacity for handling greater flows of money and so flow naturally increases. What the Matrix tells us is once again backwards from the truth. You increase money by spending it."
          - Montalk.net

          "When you spend to progress, you prosper."
          - Cassiopaean Transcripts

          So what are you views on Tithing vs Spending vs Putting money in life's work (e.g. business, advertising, promotion)?
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      • Profile picture of the author Peter Kay
        Originally Posted by MindReality View Post

        What is the difference between tithing and giving elsewhere?

        Are there those who do not tithe but give their money in other ways, and experience financial abundance as well?
        Tithing is giving 10% of your income to your church for the purpose of paying the people who work in that church and also to provide for the needs of less fortunate people both in and outside of the church. That is the basic Biblical teaching of tithing.

        Giving is over and above the tithe, that you do as you feel you are guided to do. Giving is is your own personal gift of whatever amount you feel led to give to whatever cause or person you feel led to bless. It has nothing to do with anyone except you and GOD.

        Out of my own experience over many years these principals work.

        I have never been without. I have always had a roof over my head and food to eat, and sufficient to bless others around me and save for my own future needs.

        I feel that a person should give from a place of gratitude and because you genuinely want to help or bless by giving and not in order to receive.
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    • Profile picture of the author NicoleElmore
      Originally Posted by Don Adrian View Post

      I just started giving tithes a few weeks ago. And from my experience when i wasn't active attending church we were really having a hard time financially and spiritually. So i guess you will not be blessed without tithing and giving.
      I just read a great article this morning regarding this from someone who has experienced an increase in his own income when he started tithing - unfortunately, I cannot post links yet, but I posted where you can read the article -> christianpf.com/my-tithing-experience/

      The bottom line however is that you have to give it from your heart - if you simply give with an intention to receive more, or get rich, your tithing or giving is useless.

      2 Corinthians 9:7 ESV

      Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.

      Keep in mind that the new testament does not mention a certain amount that one is to offer in tiths (the old testament mentions 10% of one's income), so if you feel in your heart with the intention to truthfully give an offering with no expectation to receive anything in return, the only should you tithe or donate money.

      Have any of you had similar experiences as Bob (from the article I referenced earlier in this post)?
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  • Profile picture of the author Nickels
    I believe in tithing to a church. I also agree with Don...when a person is not actively attending church and tithing - hard times, financially and spiritually come.

    Am I currently active in church? No
    Am I currently a tither? No
    Why not? Good Question.
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  • Profile picture of the author gtolive
    Hmm... I really like this topic. Most rich people don't really tithe but receive. Tithing is really important in business but most people still make more money without tithing. But which ever be the case, such person is rubbing God according to the bible and in such cases there are always ups and downs in such business along the line but those that tithe always grow so far you are doing the right thin.
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    • Profile picture of the author MindReality
      Originally Posted by gtolive View Post

      Hmm... I really like this topic. Most rich people don't really tithe but receive. Tithing is really important in business but most people still make more money without tithing. But which ever be the case, such person is rubbing God according to the bible and in such cases there are always ups and downs in such business along the line but those that tithe always grow so far you are doing the right thin.
      In my experience, results in business or any endeavor depends on where energy is focused. I have seen greater results when I put in more energy and intent than at times when I did not. I have also been tithing all along, because it is a belief of mine.

      I am just not sure whether there is always a need to give to a Church instead of anywhere else. I wonder if the law of sowing and reaping can applying to anywhere instead of just one place. I am seeking to find out the experience of others who experience abundance, both those who tithe and those who don't.
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      • Profile picture of the author Michela
        Tithing is about keeping money flowing around you, out and in.
        Money is a pretty good representative of energy and what we're creating.
        And choosing where to tithe also helps with creative flow, compassion etc.
        I don't tithe to a church because of the issues mentioned earlier in the thread with financial mismanagement, so much going on administration etc that those who could really benefit from your tithe, see very much less of it.
        I tithe to places where I know there is a tangible benefit.
        For example, I really like Oxfam Unwrapped. You buy a chicken or a goat, clean water for a child, a well, gear for a midwife. You get the idea. Even with admin factored in which I'm sure it is, its a real, tangible flow.
        I chose this tithing years ago to help my son learn about giving usefully. Money really meant nothing to a young child but he understood why a boy and girl goat would help people.
        We might decide to tithe something bigger, so we save our tithes up and then purchase when we have the right amount. He loves it.
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  • Profile picture of the author earnfast
    There are someone law that can not be broken, For example the law of giving, The bible says give and it shall be given unto you, I think we should try and obey the bible because for all books written so far in life, the bible is the only book that talk the present, future and pass.. While other books expert in due time. So bible is older than any body and wisdom come by age.. Think!
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    • Profile picture of the author RecessionPROOF
      Interesting,

      I learned long ago that in everything in life, you have to learn to give to receive, care to share, pay it forward, people helping people, so no doubt it works in business as well in life. Tithing is not new, but very few will actually do it on a regular basis. Helping others is what it is all about. I have been involved on several organized tithing non profit organizations, and the newest one is rather unique, it involves giving others a legacy life benefit of $50K life protection of which you share 50/50 with your Church. A true win win win scenario which I have never see before.

      If you could give others a $100.00 incentive and you received the same back, would this be considered tithing? Of course, you can do whatever you want with the $100.00, but given I work with charities, it always feels great to give to others, so this one caught my attention. Anytime I see an organization which is based on people helping people, I get involved with it.

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  • Profile picture of the author aw
    Originally Posted by MindReality View Post

    Many spiritual gurus recommend tithing to get rich.

    I am curious to know who here does not tithe but still manage to make a lot of money.

    As for those who believe in tithing, do you tithe to a Church or to some other place?

    What about giving? What places to you believe in giving to that will do good?

    I would like to find out different views from people about this.
    I absolutely believe in tithing and power of it. God commands us to do this in fact. We are supposed to tithe where we are fed spiritually. We are also supposed to worship as we tithe in a spirit of both expectation of blessings and thankfulness to God, because just "throwing it in the bucket" like you are paying your electric bill will diminish the 30, 60,100 fold return promised. Thank you for this post. Here is one of many scriptures below about tithing.

    Malachi 3:10 - Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.
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  • Profile picture of the author faithyunn
    Bible did not promise that if you give tithes you will become rich but it promises you that God will supply all your needs and He will open the flood gates of heaven to give you more blessings if you are faithful in returning your tithes to him.
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  • Profile picture of the author KingYoungPimpin
    It's a biblical principal you should do if you BELIEVE in it. Doing it to get rich is down right foolish to me. You either believe what the bible says about tithing or you don't. If you don't why do it.
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  • Profile picture of the author fannysee
    I agree with Global365 that if you wish to give tithes, you may need to check the church or organization you are giving it to.
    In my country, we currently have a church organization being investigated due to misuse of tithes. "
    On 6 March 2010, City Harvest Church announced that it has purchased a significant stake in Suntec Convention Centre and will be using its facilities for church services, the project will cost an estimated S$310 million, including shares acquisition, renovation and rental costs." Wikipedia.org
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  • Profile picture of the author rreger
    Great conversation!
    My wife and I tithe and because of that we know the Lord is going to meet out needs (and He always does). We don't tithe to get rich. We do it to honor the Lord. I agree with AW's post - If you belong to a local church that is where your tithe should go.
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  • Profile picture of the author kimboslice
    Tithing makes the preachers rich. With that being said, each person is free to do whatever they feel like doing. If you are happy tithing then by all means do it.
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  • Profile picture of the author focused
    If your intent and motivation in tithing is just so you can get a return from it, then I feel that such a motivation will yield very good benefits. It's better to have a genuine feeling of compassion and empathy for what you give your money to.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rose Anderson
    As a preacher's kid I can assure you that not all preachers get rich. Some are truly in the ministry to serve God and help people.

    That being said, I don't think you have to tithe to a church. If you're worried about how your money will be used then find a local charity and volunteer some time there as well as money. There are many charities that provide wonderful services. Don't throw them all out because of the bad apples. Just do some research before you give.

    Giving to a cause other than yourself can improve your life in many ways.
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  • Just start giving and see what happens. It seems when you don't expect anything in return that is when you really start seeing results.
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    • Profile picture of the author PaulBaker
      Originally Posted by Resale Rights Ninja View Post

      Just start giving and see what happens. It seems when you don't expect anything in return that is when you really start seeing results.

      100% agreed. To give without any expectation of a return is what it's about.

      If you are charitable because you expect it will make you rich, you're missing the point.

      I made a conscious decision in my life to be more charitable, sounds easy but it was harder than you think. I'm not talking about tithing or making donations to any type of organization (which I do anyway) but for example, to take the time out and stop for the person begging for money in the street and to not only give them money but also respect.

      I say this was harder than you think because how often do we just keep walking in that situation?

      I wanted to make this a habit, not to get money coming back to me but because it was the right thing to do. Funny thing is that money started coming straight back, not riches but a few bucks here and there in the strangest of ways.

      The point of my rambling is to give without expectation.
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    • Profile picture of the author tedgichia
      Originally Posted by Resale Rights Ninja View Post

      Just start giving and see what happens. It seems when you don't expect anything in return that is when you really start seeing results.
      My thoughts exactly. Give more, expect less...
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      • Originally Posted by tedgichia View Post

        My thoughts exactly. Give more, expect less...
        I agree to that! Don't expect in return when you give something fully heartily.
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  • Profile picture of the author nobita436
    This is said because if you can expand your many in a good reason then you feel good and your mind also feels fresh. So to fresh minded you need to have fresh mind and that is what required.
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    • Profile picture of the author nipsyr
      OP do you give/tithe now?

      It hasn't made one bit of difference in my career whether I gave or not. What made me earn a very very good income is education, hard work, and knowing the right people. That is the truth. I could have tithed zero to many thousands and it would have made no difference.

      No body has ever "given" me anything in this life unless there was some string attached to it.

      There is so much greed and corruption in big charities, I wouldn't give them a wooden nickel.

      What do I give to?

      Kiva. I really like that organization.

      My tax dollars pay for a lot of public programs.

      My kids. I like to do nice things for my kids and grand kids.

      Creating jobs for other people. I think that is the best way to help others is to create jobs.

      When I travel to third world countries, I tip very well like a month's wages to some really lovely kind, hard working people.
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      • Profile picture of the author MindReality
        Originally Posted by nipsyr View Post

        OP do you give/tithe now?

        It hasn't made one bit of difference in my career whether I gave or not. What made me earn a very very good income is education, hard work, and knowing the right people. That is the truth. I could have tithed zero to many thousands and it would have made no difference.

        No body has ever "given" me anything in this life unless there was some string attached to it.

        There is so much greed and corruption in big charities, I wouldn't give them a wooden nickel.

        What do I give to?

        Kiva. I really like that organization.

        My tax dollars pay for a lot of public programs.

        My kids. I like to do nice things for my kids and grand kids.

        Creating jobs for other people. I think that is the best way to help others is to create jobs.

        When I travel to third world countries, I tip very well like a month's wages to some really lovely kind, hard working people.
        Thank you for your reply. This is something different here, and it is what I am looking for as well.

        I still tithe and give right now but I only do so to places I have sufficient experience and knowledge about to trust that they will use the money in ways that are good.

        But I am looking to go beyond the conventional idea that one should only tithe or give to a "certain place" for a "certain purpose".

        I am looking for an expanded view of the law of giving and receiving.

        I believe that putting money to good use will result in increasing prosperity.

        I just don't fully align anymore with the idea that everyone should only tithe to a church for "God's work" as the right way.

        That idea really cannot be 100% true, and is also very restricted.

        God is All-That-Is, and all work that is good, is God's work.

        I believe, in fact I KNOW that one can give to ANYWHERE that one feels good about, and feel a sense of abundance as a result of that giving.

        Also, I believe that SPENDING is also a form of GIVING. Those who spend money for their own progress will prosper.

        I believe that as long as one USES their money in ways that they truly want to, and enjoy doing so, and FEEL GOOD about it, they will attract more prosperity to themselves.

        THIS IS THE LAW.

        Not the law of ten commandments which is the ministry of death, but the UNIVERSAL LAW.
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        • Profile picture of the author Greg71
          I've been doing it for over a decade. I'm not rich. I don't have a car. I don't have much at all except for abilities that I've developed through applying myself, like playing guitar, building websites, understanding accounting and so on. Stuff I'd have even if I wasn't tithing I guess.

          Quoting old testament scripture is pointless because those promises were made to people under a different covenant, where tithing of crops and animals was required.

          If Malachi is true, then I should have extreme wealth. However, that is not currently the case.

          How many tithers do you know that have been blessed like that (that you cannot contain)?

          The tithing there was of food and crops and that is what they were promised in return if they tithed those things, as was required of Israel under the Mosaic law.

          That is why there is a reference to "cannot contain" - it's talking about the storage facilities for grain and so on.

          Tithing on it's own won't do anything except make you 10% poorer. Go ahead, try it out. Just tithe and continue doing exactly what you are doing now. See if you get a blessing you cannot contain. If you don't, either the bible is untrue, or you've read it incorrectly.

          It hasn't happened for me and I've given it a decent amount of time. If the Malachi promise is true, then it should happen like that for every person that "tithes", not one in a million people.

          Did Warren Buffet get rich by tithing, or by investing wisely with expertise he developed through hard work and study?

          What about Steve Jobs, or the Google guys? Do they attribute their massive wealth to tithing, or by doing something they are passionate about?
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    the principle of harvesting you reap what you sow...

    The different is the time lag, you might not know until few months or few
    years down the road....
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  • Profile picture of the author roni994
    I tithed money not to certain places or spiritual gurus. I spend the money for needy. Provide food or medical help to needy. It feel me better than anything else.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve Lim
      I love Tithing and giving 10%, because since I commitment to give every month, I fely my income getting more and growth to the next level. Beside this, more opportunities and ideas coming into my business... This might because of the law of attraction, when you give, your subconciously belive that you have more and not lack, so gradually to receive more in life.
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  • Profile picture of the author sethdrebitko
    As a Hindu giving is immensely important to me but is not meant to be some mindless and thoughtless donation of money. Donation comes in many forms and is meant to be truly meaningful and not just monetary.

    A gift that is given without any expectation of appreciation or reward is beneficial to both giver and recipient.
    A gift that is given reluctantly and with the expectation of some advantage is harmful to both giver and recipient.
    A gift that is given without any regard for the feelings of the recipient and at the wrong time, so causing embarrassment to the recipient, is again harmful to both giver and recipient.
    (Bhagavadgita 17.20-22)
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  • Profile picture of the author ambrown31
    I believe the more you give others, the more you receive back.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ninja Ana
    I give and expect nothing in return. For me this is the true value of giving.
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    • Profile picture of the author MindReality
      I would like to voice my opinion regarding "Expectation" when it comes to giving.

      I absolutely know for a fact that it is not 100% true that one should give without expectation.

      The truth is, expection is the key to receiving a return from our giving.

      Many spiritual teachings talk about expectation, and many people practice expecting the return and see it coming.

      I am one who practice expection and I can say 1000000% that expectation makes a BIG DIFFERENCE in receiving the return.

      Expectation of return is a MUST.

      THE REAL REASON WHY so many people think that they get better results when they have "no expectation" is because they do not know how to expect properly.

      Therefore, when they have "no expectation" it puts them in a state of ALLOWING.

      Read Abraham Hicks teachings to learn all about ALLOWING. It is a state where your emotional state is open, and you are feeling relaxed and free flowing.

      If one knows how to EXPECT while in a state of ALLOWING, that is the correct way.

      In the end, the most important element when it comes to giving is FEELING GOOD about it. More specifically Feeling LOVE, or Feeling a SENSE of ABUNDANCE.

      But when you give, it is according to SPIRITUAL LAW that you can expect a return, and it is your RIGHT to receive it, because it will add to your state of abundance.

      So for those who claim "no expectation" works better for them, it is because it helps them to be in a greater state of allowing.

      But for all those who are able to expect with allowing, the difference is significantly greater.

      Anyway this is just a key point here, but wasn't the main focus of the topic. It is vital though, and much has been written about expecting a harvest from your giving.

      The main focus of this forum topic is about tithing vs giving vs spending. And also about each person's experience with tithing vs not-tithing, and also where/how they choose to give/spend their money, and the results or non-results they get from doing so.
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  • Profile picture of the author Falkonator
    I definitely believe in the concept of sowing and reaping - just like in nature. When you plant a corn seed, you get corn, with lots more seeds inside itself! Like someone else already said, have some faith and just start giving and see what happens! Don't worry about whether the charity or church you plan to give to is shady or doing right with the money - let God/Source/Universe (depending on what you call Him) take care of what those people actually do with the money, you aren't responsible for their choices but you are responsible for your choice as to whether or not to give at all!

    I do think your heart or your motive behind the giving really makes a difference, too.
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    • Profile picture of the author Carmen_Hudson
      To me, 10% is a rule...so it can't come from my heart. I give as my heart moves me to give. Sometimes that's a lot of my income, sometimes that's a little of my income, sometimes it's my time, sometimes it is nothing at all. I am aware of the principle when I give, that it opens the way for me to receive, but that's not the only reason I do it. I do it when the cause excites me, when I see a real potential to make a difference, when I believe in what someone is doing, etc. I believe it has to come from my heart first or it's just another stressful obligation which is the wrong mindset.
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  • Profile picture of the author abugah
    1.You don't tithe because you want to receive: that would be trading. I doubt if tithe works like that. You tithe because you want to alienate suffering. However, in the cause of blessing others, blessings will come back to you.
    2. When you tithe, there is no guarantee that you will get payback in 3, 5, 10 or even 100 years. In fact, you great, great-grand children may be the ones to reap the benefits.
    3. When you tithe you may reap in different forms other than cash. For instance protection from bad deals, good health, intelligence and favors from other human beings.
    4. When you tithe and the other party uses the money to take an exotic vacation, you absolve yourself from blame. It is the person who misuses the funds who carries the blame not you. In other words you cannot stop tithing because the money is mismanaged.
    5. Tithing instills discipline on the tithe giver. And as you know discipline is a key ingredient for success in life. Discipline comes as a result of being aware of your financial resources; being accountable for your income and consequently your expenditure. It also makes you ambitious to increase your income and standard of living. In addition, tithing kills envy and jealousness.
    6. If you find it difficult tithing 10%, start with 1% and increase it by 1 % every month. In just 10 months you will be giving away 10% without even feeling it.
    7. Tithing is a lifestyle. You can choose to live by it or ignore it. But why not try it? And if you will, why not now? You never know!
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  • Profile picture of the author mikeyg
    Interesting question - it leads to some good points. First of all where did the idea of tithing come from and from whom and for what reason? Is it necessary - well yes - but it all depends on your viewpoint - one point of view is that it changes your belief from one of lack to one of abundance because you have to have something in order to give it away - if you are a law of attraction devotee then tithing takes on a different meaning in that you must devote at least 10% of your time to focusing on what it is you choose to attract in order to get in sync with it - you are always giving away (tithing something) whether you realize it or not
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  • Profile picture of the author Carmen_Hudson
    There's nothing wrong with wanting to be rich. The more money I make the more I have available to help others. I know there are people who disagree with this, but here's the deal. Right now when I give I can usually give $25 to $250 at a go. If I quadrupled my wealth, I could give $100 to $1000 at a go. I also will help everyone who I buy from. It allows me to take care of all of my bills and pursue my dreams. I am committed to producing value for others, and if I want BOTH--to have wealth AND to create value for others--then I don't see what is wrong with that.
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    • Profile picture of the author MindReality
      Originally Posted by Carmen_Hudson View Post

      There's nothing wrong with wanting to be rich. The more money I make the more I have available to help others. I know there are people who disagree with this, but here's the deal. Right now when I give I can usually give $25 to $250 at a go. If I quadrupled my wealth, I could give $100 to $1000 at a go. I also will help everyone who I buy from. It allows me to take care of all of my bills and pursue my dreams. I am committed to producing value for others, and if I want BOTH--to have wealth AND to create value for others--then I don't see what is wrong with that.
      Don't worry about that.

      There are always people around who have limiting beliefs towards the idea of "getting rich" or "expecting a return from giving".

      I'm glad to hear the more liberated ones expressing the opposite point though.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
    Tithing is a form of gratitude, not an investment. If you are doing it because you will get more back, then you really aren't giving at all.

    If you want to give some of your money away with the expectation that you will get more back, then that's a great idea; just don't call it a tithe if you do. Also, be very wary of charlatans who promise a return on your "seeds of faith", they are distorting the principles they claim to possess.

    All the best,
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    • Profile picture of the author MindReality
      Originally Posted by Michael Oksa View Post

      Tithing is a form of gratitude, not an investment. If you are doing it because you will get more back, then you really aren't giving at all.

      If you want to give some of your money away with the expectation that you will get more back, then that's a great idea; just don't call it a tithe if you do. Also, be very wary of charlatans who promise a return on your "seeds of faith", they are distorting the principles they claim to possess.

      All the best,
      Michael
      On the contrary, the ones who talk about "giving without expecting a return" are the ones who have distorted the principles of tithing.

      Read your Bible for the facts and you will know God asks us to test him and see whether he will not pour us a blessing there might not be room enough to receive it when we tithe.

      Jesus also talks about the hundredfold return for all those who give for his names sake.

      There are many people who go broke from giving because they do not expect anything in return. Giving without expectation is a very harmful teaching that has robbed people of the truth of benefiting from their tithing and giving.

      As a practioner of Seed Money Expectation of a return, I can tell you it works 100%.

      All masters who are truly enlightened about the truth always talk about giving, expectation and the harvest.

      For all those who think non-expectation works, read my post #37 to understand why.

      Once again, I am not interested in debating whether one should expect or not expect a return from their giving.

      The main focus of this forum topic is about tithing vs giving vs spending. And also about each person's experience with tithing vs not-tithing, and also where/how they choose to give/spend their money, and the results or non-results they get from doing so.

      From now onwards please post only comments related to the specific focus of this topic. If I see further posts made on non-related comments to my questions, and none that is what I am looking for, I will no longer choose to follow this forum thread.

      I am not here to spend my time dealing with eroneous beliefs from other people. This is not what I aim to do here, so please make posts that are related to main focus of the topic.
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  • Profile picture of the author allen12
    You should tithe because you want to want to follow what Christ said "give Caesar what is due to Caesar, and give God what is due to God". If anything positive comes out of that, then well and good. Another thing, when you give, you should do so with clean intentions, and that you truly want to help others (at least that's what I follow and believe).
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  • Profile picture of the author hbteos234
    I believe in Tithing because it is God's commandment.
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  • Profile picture of the author Cash Cow
    Giving is the secret tool to gain riches. I do not exactly go to a church but I do give back to various organizations and I help out friends and family UNCONDITIONALLY without wanting anything back. I make a good amount of money from my own efforts and I give a lot. I really believe there is a direct link between giving and making money.
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  • Profile picture of the author speedbird
    I do not beleive in tithing but am willing to help the needy in teaching them how to fish instead of giving them fish.
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