How to recognise an emotional manipulator

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Unfortunately we all come across them and they can turn a good day into a deeply regretted day, i hope this video is of interest

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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    i kind of disagree with the premise of the video.. not all manipulation is based of extortion .. and this video describe extortion ..
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  • Profile picture of the author PeakConfidence
    I guess it is the type of language used, In my own training seminars i use the word "influence" to support somebody actions for the positive and "manipulate" to use somebody in the negative
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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    ahh .. yeah i can see the difference .. manipulation does have a negative tone attached to it ..

    extortion is the easier types of emotional manipulation to spot ..because most at the time you know it is happening ..and generally in my experience ..is done more person to person "..I can make you feel this way..but only if you do this thing for me .. that you really do not want to do .."

    and come to think of it your video was more blackmail than extortion.. i guess though i have no place to say anything if your info is actually helping people ..

    maybe where you are a teacher .. you are probably already teaching people that if that are the manipulator .. tactics on how to switch from negative methods for manipulation.. to positive techniques for to influence others for mutually beneficial outcomes ?

    we tend to learn the extorion and blackmail manipulation method for mom and dad ..
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  • Profile picture of the author PeakConfidence
    You bring a good point though because if you picked up on that maybe others do also but dont say and then restrict their ;learing,

    I like the words you use also and will include

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    You are welcome,
    right now i am picking out and breaking free of the manipulative cycle that has been a big pattern in my life .. a lot of times we don't know what it is . then we see it as the way things are , then we go numb to it ..and repeat it with others in our lives ..

    even if we get away from our orginal environment..we bring ourselves with us and can tend to place those cycles back in our environment and bring people in to fill certain rolls.. or even if they don't fill the roll originaly we train them into the role .. a sort of in life karma ..

    there is no point blaming those who imprinted the pattern on us .. as 90 percent of people seem to get a dis functional imprint . so the one we got was good enough to get us to a point now where we notice it is not such a good one ..

    I am empathic and very open to the emotional patterns of others ..but also can project thoughts or feelings into others..or quickly tune into how to influence others .. but much of my growing up life .. though i am sure the was no physical abuse .. there was emotional and mental abuse from every angle .. i cultivated to thing .. numbness and a physical /emotional shield.. to keep people away ..

    a year ago i figured out what was going on.. and erased the numbness .. now i have been revamping my presence to be more friendly ..and inviting . but i am at a point where i need to get away from my family .. as they will always see me how i was ..

    People manipulate others to get emotional responses that they should be willing to give themselves without the need to manipulate others .. but things like love ..acceptence, happiness, joy, excitement , adventure ..need to come from others right .. ?

    eehiee .. i am in philospher mode today
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeannie Crabtree
      My philosophy is to start with oneself. Accept, Respect, Love and Forgiveness are needed in a relationship. Start with and develop it in oneself, then move that outwards to other people.

      How can one accept others, if one does not accept oneself? Respect oneself, love oneself, forgive oneself. Something to think about.

      So part of this is to recognize the patterns we were raised with, usually started before age 6, and then see if they fit into the model above. If they do not, then there is work to do.

      I have been working on this for myself for a number of years, and helping others when I had a practice in natural health field.

      Jeannie


      Originally Posted by Odahh View Post


      People manipulate others to get emotional responses that they should be willing to give themselves without the need to manipulate others .. but things like love ..acceptence, happiness, joy, excitement , adventure ..need to come from others right .. ?

      eehiee .. i am in philospher mode today
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      • Profile picture of the author Odahh
        Originally Posted by Jeannie Crabtree View Post

        My philosophy is to start with oneself. Accept, Respect, Love and Forgiveness are needed in a relationship. Start with and develop it in oneself, then move that outwards to other people.

        How can one accept others, if one does not accept oneself? Respect oneself, love oneself, forgive oneself. Something to think about.

        So part of this is to recognize the patterns we were raised with, usually started before age 6, and then see if they fit into the model above. If they do not, then there is work to do.

        I have been working on this for myself for a number of years, and helping others when I had a practice in natural health field.

        Jeannie
        a very nice response .. one day i will manage to convey sarcasm in text though .. but we agree the pattern is usually imprinted before the age of 6 to fit in with mom and dad .. but they where pattern mom and dad had imprinted on them... and if you go back a hundred years .. people where taught to supress their emotions at a rather young age .. because it was still a time even in the west where parents had a lot of children so a few would make it to adulthood..

        My parents don't even understand what they are doing now .. nor do i believe they ever will .. they are in bad health in their 70's ..

        now personally i was never built to fit in or just be another human being.. so i have always had an environment around me that was trying to sheer off or make me hide parts of me and fake having others.. so i could look normal .. which was emotionally draining and painful .

        My pattern didn't just happen with my parents .. the same pattern repeated with school then work and all other aspects ..and it really became clear what it was about a year ago ..but i have been unsure or unwilling to completely walk away from it until now .. it "just" take .. re examining who you are, redefining yourself and what happened in the past .. and writing a new story to go along with the new self ..

        yes ..just .. that is all ..

        because you where drawn to healing as part of your work ..did you find you would try and taking on the other persons pain and try too heal it in yourself to help them ?
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeannie Crabtree
    Thanks for the video. I have a niece who at age 7 is being bullied by a neighbor in the neighborhood at home and school. Parent and teacher is working with my niece, and it is dying down.

    My brother has had to work on her attitude as well. After a while she was feeling bad about herself and she wanted to get back at the person.
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  • Profile picture of the author PeakConfidence
    Its interesting too, i always have the yin yang approach,

    We have to work on ourselves, if we do not we will always be a doormat to these people

    but also sometime be prepared to walk away or lash out as sometimes these people do not or will refuse to change as they get too much payoff hurting others (even though it hurts them also)
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    • Profile picture of the author Odahh
      Originally Posted by PeakConfidence View Post

      Its interesting too, i always have the yin yang approach,

      We have to work on ourselves, if we do not we will always be a doormat to these people

      but also sometime be prepared to walk away or lash out as sometimes these people do not or will refuse to change as they get too much payoff hurting others (even though it hurts them also)
      it is not very well recieved when I or anyone says this,

      but we tend to bring those in our lives with certain problems we need to work on ourselves .. and we also bring those in who"victimize" us.. to show us where we really need work ..

      the reason we are here in this human construct .. is to take on a persona of extreme limits and use that persona to grow.. but as humans in the past and up to now .. we mainly only chose to grow in response to problems and major issues ..and though i have an evolving view od reincarnation.. instead of ..the tit for tat .. your soul as it was chosing where to come in.. picked the point where the lifetime it chose would have the greatest potentials for the kind of growth it was seeking ..

      the problem with the problem is that is we never grow ourselves .. we will continue to bring in people who will repeat the same cycle ..

      until we change ..and respond differently to what happens to us.. the same things will happen to us over and over ..

      we are both vibrational and magnetic beings and every atom of our meat suit ..has its own polarity .. and that polarity get effected by the emotional state of the persona ..

      ok ok i will stop now haha
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  • Profile picture of the author PeakConfidence
    follow your own heart Odahh, many will do their best to get you to follow their path only because they want more people to verify that they are correct in their choice
    Your own path will be the most amazing adventure you can ever dream , mine is and following it for 20 years now
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