Why so much hate?

We're all on quests for knowledge. When people fight with Egos, that's when you lose the fight. I personally learnt a lot by acquiring two sides of any form of knowledge - there is no "Me vs you", because knowledge is just knowledge.

Whether it is provable or not, that is determined by ability of replication.

I think some people have pent up anger or frustration that they don't have the opportunity or courage to release in their day to day interactions, so they vent behind the safety and anonymity of their computers. And then there are some who are just nasty people in all walks of life, and we just get to enjoy their demeanor in venues such as this forum.

Hi Joe,

I think perhaps you're experiencing a rather universal dynamic.
Unfortunately, haters are still prevalent throughout most social corridors.
Just look at the explosion of haters and emotions on both sides of the George Zimmerman trial.
I simply choose to ignore the haters, give them NO relevance, and move on.
As one of the nice guys, I will try to respond and interact more.

Best of luck to you!

I wonder why you think there are so many haters. Sure, there are arguments, and some folks troll, but for the most part this is one of the more positive forums I have seen.

I wonder if you are considering it "hate" if you see people respond to a thread like "how can I make $10k in the next 30 days?", with remarks poking fun at the person for being childish (if they are starting from nothing, never having made much money, they are indeed being childish with such a thread).

Sure, some people could be more gentle with their criticism, but usually it is sincere, and we all have to have a bit of a thick skin to not get all offended by how others state their views in a forum this size. But the fact that you think there is a serious issue here with "haters", suggests to me that you may simply have a too inclusive definition of "hate" which includes harsh criticism, and harsh criticism, while it can sting a bit, isn't the same as "hate" in my book.

This is just my opinion of course, but this forum in particular versus many others I've been on (namepros, millionaire fastlane) to name a few, the audience here just seems much more likely to 'troll' and put your ideas down. Especially based on their infinite wisdom because they have money *cough sarcasm*

Everyone on this post has been nice of course, but I would point out many other threads existing right now and the users that are what I consider 'hating' without much effort. Perhaps you are right about misusing the word 'hate', maybe it's 'trolling', but I'll show what I think the hate is anyways.

I spent 30 minutes today lurking the forum to see which areas are affected the most in my opinion.

MIND SUCCESS
- This area of the forum appears to have most of the nicer people, I didn't really see any bad/trolling posts.

MAIN INTERNET MARKETING

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ail-users.html

(the 3rd responder (RogueOne), and 5th responder (M Thompson)). That was not really called for in my opinion. The guy just had a question, no need to berate him for asking the question... How does it help at all to do that? I hate those people who don't help the post. All it will do is make people scared to make new posts. So what if there is some other thread on it, maybe he did search and that thread didn't have an answer he was looking for, or his question is different, who are they in their all mighty god like power to decide. That is just an elitist attitude IMHO.

Most of the other people responding on the thread gave real useful advice and stayed courteous.

I will post another example here when I got more time, but good news is this is the only thread I could find with negative posts in 30 minutes, so maybe it's not as bad as I thought.

Well maybe that thread was not the best example, but I've seen it many times. It's possible it's just in my head, but it just feels like there is more negativity or maybe less 'tact' in peoples responses. Definition of tact being, "Adroitness and sensitivity in dealing with others or with difficult issues.".

I get that we need to be thick skinned to be marketers, but I don't think that is an excuse for absence of tact. I'm a big believer in karma, if you spread bad will around, it spreads around quickly. If you spread good will around it will also spread around quickly. It's a matter of what standards we set. So in other words I can be thick skinned, already am... but doesn't mean I have to condone the behavior or accept it.

Curious your guys thoughts on that.

I highly doubt that the marketers that have a million dollars are the ones you describe as "haters".

Right now you seem to be focusing on the "haters" and are seeing quite a bit of what you describe as hate. How about you focus on the "helpers" and find quite a bit of that. It's all about your focus.

You know, kind of like the glass is half full/empty sort of thing.


Terra

We find what we look for, even when it isn't there. What I mean by that is when we look for hate, we'll find it, but often it's us projecting what we're looking for onto someone else. It's often our perception that is faulty.

It's easy to read things into a difference of opinion, or to see exasperation as dislike (hate is a strong word and all too often thrown around carelessly), or to project our own ideas onto others in some way.

Having said that, forums aren't for everyone. If you're too sensitive and bruised too easily you will probably be repeatedly beaten up by your feelings.

There is this particular guy in the forum (im very interested in web design/design threads bec that's what i do) who would always comment around and say " you are an idiot" as a newbie, i stopped replying for a week or two. Then looking around for more threads I noticed he'd say that to everyone. Lol. Point is, there are just ppl who carry around too much negativity (and we really don't know why) so we shouldn't take it to heart.

We can't please everybody. If your post have a lot replies, negative or positive, they still think it's interesting. Maybe you've seem to hit a nerve on someone or maybe someone just wanna blow off stem and the timing of your post was perfect. Either way, you still have a lot responses and it's way better than getting ignored.
It's just a matter of perspective.

I suppose you have a point. As long as it doesn't get me banned somehow .

I actually looked over your posting history. I am a mod on another and much larger non-IM forum so I have experience in this and hope I can shed some light on this for you.

Honest answer: On a lot of forums mods would question rather you were borderline trolling them and the forum in general.

Your posting style, the way you argue points, and the way you repost the same content slightly modified are the issues IMO. In my experience people who do that are trolling.

You have left a bad taste in some people's mouths. And in cases like that the "hero trolls",as I call them, tend to attack. And that is what I see by looking over your history.

I will say that many of your threads would have been better posted in the offline area vs. other areas of the site. And that may have contributed to the negative nature of the replies you get as well.

Yeah I get that, I'm keeping my posts simple to avoid issues in the future, last thing I need is to be deemed a troll here, I just didn't get how the system (forum) worked, but I do now... but hopefully I can fix that reputation by adding useful content with less complaining.

Out of curiosity what is a good way to argue points for my knowledge in the future?

I agree 100% buddy Keep this in mind only 1% of the world holds most the riches. Every time I talk to one of them, they are the most nicest, and giving people I see. There is only 1% out there. I do believe it's moving up a bit though, people like you shows proof. Much love. Keep it rocking. And keep ignoring them. There is more room at the top

There's a lot of people in this business and a whole lot of different personalities.

So whenever you read negative feedback, just take the goo point minus any negative feeling that it might leave you.

We can't judge people by the way they respond to threads but they sure have a lot of experience that they can tell otherwise.

So the next time you see negative feedback, either ignore them or take it- when you can..

I'll agree with this, I'm starting that now .

I suppose the nail that gets stuck out gets hammered is the philosophy to stick by here.

You know I think I just figured that out today . Looks like you are right, and I'm not afraid to admit that. I think every time I complain I get 10 more complaints and enemies thrown back at me. Well no more complaining threads. I'll see if I can't find some useful stuff out there or thoughts to share.

If someone appears to be negative it's probably best to just take it, I'm sure if it's truly bad or negative a moderator would do something if it's big enough. I just have to trust in that for now.

In poker you lose if show your emotions or let players get the better of you, I forgot the number one rule of emotional control and won't let that slip again. Not sure what I was hoping to gain by all this either now that I think it?

Here's one thing I've learned recently - I've been studying success for the last 20 years - watched most of the videos, books, been to self -help gurus and some of it finally sunk in and have seen some success in my life. But only recently have I realized that success and being able to achieve all you want in life is all about the mindset. In fact, success really is 80% mindset. Case in point - I was working on a project to build out a website within a week - but given my internal blockages or some subconscience limitations I put on myself, it's now been delayed to 2 weeks. The truth is, the job could have been done in a day but now it's delayed.

Your mindset, in being positive, optimistic and hopeful for the future will take you far more further than any tip, trick, and technique that you'll find in this forum. Why do you think poor people who hit the lotto soon become broke after winning millions?

There's another story where they wanted to revamp and regentrify a city in the US - it was total projects land- from a poor neighborhood and spent millions upgrading the homes and housing until it was immaculate. The people living there were all happy at first - but pretty soon after it turned into the projects again - and looked almost the same as before!

Despite the physical surroundings that changed, the mindset of the people was the same. Friends, more so than anything mindset is what matters. And oh btw, people who complain and are negative bring that kind of crap and energy into their lives - stay far away! I'm glad I got that off my chest. 2 great books to read - Psycho cybernetics Maxwell Malitz and Secrets of a Millionaire Mindset T Harv Ecker - Once again 80% mindset / 20% process

Just a point of view. I realized that some haters have something they noticed from you or probably they are projecting their self image to you. Either ways, what I have learned is that just take the meat and throw out the bones... If there are truth to what they say...lol.