Do you believe in the spiritual side of the Law of Attraction?

I phrase the spiritual version differently. There is a spiritual law of compensation, karma, whatever you want to call it. It's like gravity. It's not personal, but it is spiritual.

I don't know how it works, but it just does. The difficultly is staying in that place where you attract everything you desire. It's a bit like being on a tightrope.

I just think that adopting that mindset will change your attitude which in turn make others attracted to you as a person

Also with your new beliefs/paradigms you tend to focus more on the things that you want & suddenly they're everywhere because you're focusing on it (Reticular Activation System)

&& when you're beliefs shift every single experience in your life seem to "fit into and reinforce the belief", which causes your new reality to seem even more real.

I am for this one:

3. The quantum physics version: Consciousness collapses informational probabilities.

Great Choices you gave.

LLS

I chose the last one, because the psychology version didn't make much sense to me. There's nothing "psychologic" in abundance if you're using it in this context. Otherwise, that would've been my choice.

LOA isn't a "law" in any meaningful sense of the word, but it's a nice marketing slogan for a self-development process. I'm not into the mysticism the marketers of LOA want to use. The process itself could work, but for very mundane reasons.

I still don't know exactly how I feel about LOA.

It seems to make sense in that:

If you are always thinking positive thoughts, that you believe something will happen, then if something doesn't go your way you do not quit, you just see it as one step closer to finally receiving what you have asked for.

It is the ultimate tool for perseverance.

I know Kenster attributes his success to LOA, but it is still up in the air for me.

When you realize you aren't "manifesting" anything that doesn't already exist, it changes the mood.

You aren't attracting through some separate, mystical Universe... or some Genie-In-The-Sky answering your every whim. No. I recently stated this in another thread, but it deserves repeating:

When you GET the difference between intentions... and your constant attention... you'll see it isn't your "wishes," affirmations or goals that create what you want (no matter how much or how little action is involved...)

It's something else entirely.

When you can learn how to command your deliberate attention, you'll never waste another second on intending for anything to manifest.

Of course...

What gets in the way of what you REALLY want?

You, right? Your limiting beliefs, right? Your past stories that you keep retelling in your holographic mind, right?

Don't understand what I mean?

Okay...

Try this...

Say, "I am so grateful for the extra $10,000 I've received this month." Make sure to speak or imagine it in the present tense.

Now...

Watch where your attention goes.

It's going to find everything that's in resistance to that $10,000 from ever revealing itself in your experience of reality.

There's your hint.

The reality is...

That $10,000 is easy to create.

But you'll never see, touch or SPEND it - until you dissolve all the junk getting the way.

And yes...

This is founded by the more quantum perspective of how the physical comes into form.

Mark

I think that this poll might be better if there were also an unsure option for an answer.

Well, there has been scientific data to back up what a lot of the LOA teachers have been saying for some time. Actually, the science goes back to ancient Egypt. But, what makes LOA appears to be hocus pocus is the way that it is presented by a lot of the "gurus" today. If one wants to learn about the LOA and how it pertains to success, I suggest them stick with the works of Napoleon Hill and Charles F. Haanel.

I'm not really sure about the whole LOA thing. I definitely lean toward the spiritual version but I also don't believe I can just ask God for something and He'll give it to me. I don't see God as some kind of genie answering my wishes.

I have tried the "thinking positive" aspect of attracting good things but for some weird reason it seems to work in reverse for me! :-(

So basically, I just accept what comes at me and keep working toward what I want to accomplish. Good and bad, down times and up times, wealth and poverty - they all come and go as a part of life. My attitude of acceptance may be what keeps me from becoming rich, but then again, maybe it'll help me get there.

You are reviewing a number of different, perhaps competing, spiritual and philosophical views.

Find one spiritual author or set of beliefs that work for you and give it a chance. The spiritual author or book that most strongly appeals to you right now is the right book for you now.

I would suggest Emmet Fox, Joel Goldsmith, or Raymond Charles Barker.

Best wishes,

Thomas O'Malley

and you believe hard enough, will the LOA deviate bullets from their paths

I believe it. I know that during periods of my life when all I was thinking about was being broke and not having any cash, all I got was more bills and I got trapped in a vicious cycle of having less and less. I attracted less in my life.

If you focus on where you want to go, it makes you take more action to get there. So it could be a bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy. I am sure people like Donald Trump visualised himself sat at the head of a huge empire before he even made his first move. I'm 100% sure he didn't spend his days thinking he was a complete failure and would never make it.

A few weeks ago I changed my screen savers to show pictures of the kind of life I want when I make a lot more money online - my ideal house by the beach, etc etc ..... Every day I imagine myself sat there (in the future) feeling happy and contented with what I have achieved. I believe I will buy that house one day. It drives me to keep trying and never give up.

I know there are a lot of you here who believe in Law of Attraction, but personally as a Christian, I choose not to make use of the "loophole" of the Universe/God and manifestation, etc. to get what I want. Especially if the few leader who teach LOA is a medium possess by a spirit who call Himself, the source (Google Abraham Hicks)

There are better ways to get motivated, (as mention by Kenster, develop better mindset) than dive into LOA or even worst the spiritual aspect of LOA. (POV of ex-LOA practitioner)

Most definitely the spiritual one, we are a spiritual being, and its the soul i believe that connects with the energy you radiate through the mind.

We all know how powerful the mind is, the brain is a masterpiece in itself, hence why its very important to stay connected to the positive energy by tuning in to your emotions and keeping them in check by feeding your mind and emotions with things that inspire you or motivate you.

I recommend mindset training via books and audios.
they really work

All these can make one an academe. Why not try the old-fashion way of "believing in yourself" and work like hell to make your belief come true?

Great discussion going on here. I believe number one, God hears and gives.
However, I believe that this is a spiritual law and you can call it whatever you want, just don't blast me when I tell ya...

That it is found in the Holy Bible in the new testament in the book of Mark chapter 11 verse 24 and I paraphrase; " He that believes in their heart shall have it" Which I interpret that as whatever you need or want or desire, if you believe for it enough (faith) you will have what you believe.

How do you explain Atheists who are truly content, successful, and happy with their lives, if they're not "spiritual"?

Well, that's because they subscribe to the laws of success and happiness. There are universal laws based on success - the need to expand, grow, and change. It's in nature and within all living creatures.

I believe regardless of your beliefs or ideologies, there are universal principles that guide us - karma, God, nature, infinite love, the Source, etc - different labels for the same path.

Kim Jung Un thought about basketball all the time and he ended up attracting Dennis Rodman into singing happy birthday to him.

I think this stuff works well.

Of course I do! That stuff is not magic! It's real my friends. Everything is energy.

It works for me but I don't realy understand how. People around me tells me that I am just beeing lucky. I think it's about having a built in instinct to do the right things the right way at the right time.

The spiritual version although not necessarily God hears and gives. Rather God made that law.

Seems that you two are joined at the hip, or PM each other to flood this forum with ancient threads to flog something?

Bumping a 2013 thread!

Mods this is the third ancient thread resurrection by these two, and to be honest is wrecking the forums credibility. I know the number of views look good, but honestly the original poster, posted 4 years ago.

I will leave it up to you, if you want to allow this to continue, but it is causing more harm than good.

I'll spare a hint: the universe is dumb and can be manipulated robotically. It means that it can be "hacked" to fulfill your aspirations. Same goes with LOA. It doesn't have to do with magic and believe it or not YOU'RE RUNNING IN A PROGRAM...

The truth is somewhere in the middle, however I voted 5 and I would also vote 4.

God rarely intervenes. Open your mind is just one word. If you do open it, then opportunities show up.