Do You Believe Suffering Is Necessary To Bring About Change?

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I have seen a lot of change in my years. In the early days of my life it seemed all change that came to me came with the price of pain and suffering. Don't ask me why. It just was that way.

But now that I have gained a fair number of years in this life, change doesn't seem to upset my composure or threaten my belief system anymore.

Does change come for you the hard way or is it taken in stride with most of every day's stress and without much concern? How do you react to an unexpected need to change?
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  • Profile picture of the author YHmuWong
    I tried to keep my composure up and keep on improving day to day.And yes, I don't suffer anymore just because I know the secret(LOA).
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  • Profile picture of the author justhumza
    It's not necessary that change comes from suffering, a lot of times we change because of something positive in life too, but usually suffering is what pushes us out of our comfort zones and shifts our perspective of life with enough impact that change occurs.
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  • Profile picture of the author ColdWritingLLC
    Originally Posted by LastingLifeSuccess View Post

    I have seen a lot of change in my years. In the early days of my life it seemed all change that came to me came with the price of pain and suffering. Don't ask me why. It just was that way.

    But now that I have gained a fair number of years in this life, change doesn't seem to upset my composure or threaten my belief system anymore.
    I can not only totally relate but I think that was fairly well worded.

    The distinction I'd like to make, however, is that there are two types of change - voluntary and involuntary. The voluntary kind is the hard one, the one that hurts and makes you drag yourself to the depths of yourself before it's achieved. It requires you to see the situation as it really is, not better or worse, and you have to make a decision that has no good answer. Even things in the moment that seem so important are ultimately just relative when you make that change.

    Involuntary change is, at least I think, a lot easy to deal with because you have no choice. Sort of like a storm coming in and taking away your house; sure you can complain and gripe about it but you can't turn back time so it quickly becomes a futile effort. The only option when life knocks your house down is to use the foundation you already have and build another... unless the foundation was cracked before the storm, then what better an opportunity to find a new location, I suppose.
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  • You do not necessarily have to suffer in order to get positive outcomes.

    Suffering is entirely a mental thing. It is your choice whether you want yourself to suffer or not.
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    • Profile picture of the author Statcode
      Originally Posted by bizarrionetwork View Post

      You do not necessarily have to suffer in order to get positive outcomes.

      Suffering is entirely a mental thing. It is your choice whether you want yourself to suffer or not.
      I agree - it's your CHOICE to suffer (for the most part).
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  • Profile picture of the author Jono P
    Suffering is just an emotion to encounter, which develops your mindset to grow with. Use the pain as the drive to grow from.
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  • Profile picture of the author broganceo
    It may not have to be pain or suffering to get a person to change, but perhaps something that someone has said. Possibly it could just be a moment or seeing something that motivates or turns a light on inside them. Each person is different when it comes to things that can change them.
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  • Profile picture of the author larry50
    I have struggled with this for years. Suffering is how we think about the pain or circumstance, but pain or hurtful circumstances and change are always hopelessly attached to each other. Why, because if we did not fail, if that failure was not great enough to cause pain, then we would have no reason to change our direction.

    And change is the magic that can turn any bad circumstance into a good circumstance given some time and effort as we change only ourselves.
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  • Profile picture of the author joesfortune
    I don't think you have to suffer to change. Self-awareness is knowing yourself and the areas that are holding you down. Of course, getting rid of these things may require one to suffer but not the of suffering like removing a toe without anesthesia.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
    I don't think that suffering is necessarily needed for change. However, in my experience it's the most “powerful” force for brining about that change.

    I've had my fair share of suffering these past 15 years. And, although it's been really difficult sometimes, I'm sincerely grateful for everything that's happened to me. : ) In fact I penned a quotation several years ago:

    “Suffering can be a blessing in disguise. The more you suffer, the deeper grows your character, and the more loving and compassionate you become.”
    I love my life and my Information Publishing Organization and I wouldn't be where I am if it wasn't for all my problems and suffering. I also have a wonderful sense of accomplishment considering everything I've been through. : )

    Embrace suffering. Because it can change your life for the better.

    ...

    P.S. Here's a related post about suffering.

    http://www.warriorforum.com/mind-war...g-turmoil.html
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  • Profile picture of the author Zincabopa
    I think failure is an important part of the process of becoming success (however you define success). You will no doubt in your life experience hardships and failures, the key (according to Chris Hadfield) is to accept them. I agree with him, once you accept it, you really have nothing to lose.

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  • Profile picture of the author nicelife
    Originally Posted by LastingLifeSuccess View Post

    I have seen a lot of change in my years. In the early days of my life it seemed all change that came to me came with the price of pain and suffering. Don't ask me why. It just was that way.

    But now that I have gained a fair number of years in this life, change doesn't seem to upset my composure or threaten my belief system anymore.

    Does change come for you the hard way or is it taken in stride with most of every day's stress and without much concern? How do you react to an unexpected need to change?

    I'm having similar experiences as you, today I've learned to accept change as something natural. When I was younger I wasn't really prepared for it and that's what I think made it harder.

    I had to learn things the hard way otherwise I would never have changed ....
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Ten
    Suffering can help trigger a desire for change; however, suffer is most certainly not a prerequisite.
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  • Profile picture of the author SandraLarkin
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    I do not believe it is necessary, but I believe most suffering causes most change. You do not need to be suffering to change however.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ricardo Furtado
    We live in a material world, so all of us suffer for some reason or the other.

    But suffering is not NECESSARY to bring about changes.

    All the best. Regards.
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    • Profile picture of the author mfuji55
      Suffering is a must to bring about change, good post.

      Why? Because if you don't suffer, then nothing is wrong.

      You call it suffering, I call it life experience.

      But once you learn, so many doors open up.

      Once you learn, you start finding your gifts and you start looking at the world from a different perspective.

      I found that i am a filmmaker.
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  • Profile picture of the author karolinaboy
    I wouldn't call it suffering but, I would call it boredom. I guess when you hit that level it's then time to move up to the next level.
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