How I wasted $511,000 and KILLING myself in the meantime, need your HELP!

Vikuna2009+

15 years ago

Hey you all, totally surprised NOBODY is responding to my post! Maybe you are all "Healt freaks" and do not smoke or simply NOT ready for the challenge??? I am and I am going to do it, come hell or high water!

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GuerrillaIM

15 years ago

Thatta boy..... Stop smoking. Better?

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Robin E. Anderson

15 years ago

I just typed a whole note, posted it and it disappeared. Don't know if that is why you haven't received more posts, but I wanted to say good luck to you and keep up the stopping!

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GeorgR.

15 years ago

e-cigs!

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Norma Holt

15 years ago

Smokers stink like a sewer. As an ex smoker of some many years I cannot stand to even be in the vicinity of a smoker. Do you wash because of BO problems? If so then think of your smoking hygiene, or rather lack of it. You are transmitting filth and taking filth into your body every time you puff on a filthy cigarette.

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God bless

Norma

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John Durham

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Norma Holt

Smokers stink like a sewer. As an ex smoker of some many years I cannot stand to even be in the vicinity of a smoker. Do you wash because of BO problems? If so then think of your smoking hygiene, or rather lack of it. You are transmitting filth and taking filth into your body every time you puff on a filthy cigarette.

Hope this helps

God bless

Norma

Wow, that's harsh... you kinda hurt my feelings there...weren't you in the movie "Carey"?

There are alot of ways to be "filthy..."

In "The Prophet", Kahlil Gibron refers to a man who walks away after stuffing himself at a feast, and then calls all the ones who stayed behind "gluttonous..." not very becoming.

Let's just stick with 'encouragement' Shall we?

With that being said; "Good luck on quitting, it's an admirable thing you are endeavoring to do here... wish I had your guts!

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Norma Holt

15 years ago

Originally Posted by kadensnga

Wow, that's harsh... you kinda hurt my feelings there...weren't you weren't you in the movie "Carey"?

There are alot of ways to be "filthy..."

In "The Prophet", Kahlil Gibron refers to a man who walks away after stuffing himself at a feast, and then calls all the ones who stayed behind "gluttonous..." not very becoming.

Let's just stick with 'encouragement' Shall we?

With that being said; "Good luck on quitting, it's an admirable thing you are endeavoring to do here... wish I had your guts!

Yes, its harsh, but to the point. It was my 4 years old son who stopped me smoking when he told he did not like the smell. Since I quit the filthy habit I know exactly what he meant. How dare I inflict that over someone else just for my own sick pleasure. So my retort above was more of a guilty response than meaning to be offensive.

If you need incentive to quit smoking and you liken it to living in a sewer and to picking up the floaters and putting them in your mouth then I think oyu get a pretty picture of what smokers are doing to themselves. I read an article in the Readers Digest that listed all the types of cancer one can get from smoking, including prostate and bladder cancer. It also noted that if you quit and don't get cancer within the next 30 years you may have escaped the impact.

I can't imagine having to carry a bag of your own waste around with you when your colon or bladder is removed. UGH! Is this harsh. Yes, and it is meant to be but I know the battle addiction creates. Will power and human intelligence should be strong enough to overcome it, however.

The manufacturers of cigarettes have been recorded on television stating that they don't smoke and that only people of a low standing do it. I can see what they meant by that statement. If will power is weak then so is the mind.

We are constantly shown tubes from dead smokers lungs being squeezed out and the rotten build up of junk is disgusting. To think we can do that to ourselves and not take a stand against it. We should help each other to quit any form of addiction and tobacco and alcohol are at the top of the carcinogenics.

No offense is meant by these comments to anyone but if it helps you to quit the filth than so be it. Your taste buds, brain and lungs will all improve remarkably afterward.

God bless

Norma

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Vikuna2009+

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Norma Holt

Yes, its harsh, but to the point. It was my 4 years old son who stopped me smoking when he told he did not like the smell. Since I quit the filthy habit I know exactly what he meant. How dare I inflict that over someone else just for my own sick pleasure. So my retort above was more of a guilty response than meaning to be offensive.

If you need incentive to quit smoking and you liken it to living in a sewer and to picking up the floaters and putting them in your mouth then I think oyu get a pretty picture of what smokers are doing to themselves. I read an article in the Readers Digest that listed all the types of cancer one can get from smoking, including prostate and bladder cancer. It also noted that if you quit and don't get cancer within the next 30 years you may have escaped the impact.

I can't imagine having to carry a bag of your own waste around with you when your colon or bladder is removed. UGH! Is this harsh. Yes, and it is meant to be but I know the battle addiction creates. Will power and human intelligence should be strong enough to overcome it, however.

The manufacturers of cigarettes have been recorded on television stating that they don't smoke and that only people of a low standing do it. I can see what they meant by that statement. If will power is weak then so is the mind.

We are constantly shown tubes from dead smokers lungs being squeezed out and the rotten build up of junk is disgusting. To think we can do that to ourselves and not take a stand against it. We should help each other to quit any form of addiction and tobacco and alcohol are at the top of the carcinogenics.

No offense is meant by these comments to anyone but if it helps you to quit the filth than so be it. Your taste buds, brain and lungs will all improve remarkably afterward.

God bless

Norma

Norma,

you are utterly disgusting but SO right and thank you

If this can make a difference to someones life, pour on the filth

. Thank you for your contribution, take care, Eva

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John Durham 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Norma Holt

I read an article in the Readers Digest that listed all the types of cancer one can get from smoking, including prostate and bladder cancer..

Whoa, whoa whoa! ...you had me at "prostate". Maybe I'll reconsider!!!!

Norma, we are all here to express... you and I are both enjoying an opportunity to share ourselves and others here. "I love you". I'm glad we get to banter together.

Can we be friends?

God Bless you too.

Regards,
John Durham
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- hughmac 15 years ago
  
  My wife has gone from being extremely fit three years ago, to hardly being able to walk the length of our drive due to vascular problems directly related to smoking. She is only fifty five years old.
  
  She started smoking as a child as so many did in those days. Smoking adverts were everywhere, on radio, newspapers, posters and of course television when it eventually arrived.
  
  It was so cool to do and the peer pressure was enormous. Off course nearly every adult smoked, i remember as a child, constantly going to the shops to buy tobacco in all its forms for my dad, he even chewed the bloody stuff!
  
  Think how your family would feel if you became ill as a result of continuing to smoke because i can tell you that we are in despair! To see someone you love so ill is heartbreaking for myself and our children.
  
  Good luck and i hope you succeed!
  
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Vikuna2009+ 15 years ago

UPDATE!!!!

If it was legal to kill somebody, I would. Well, of course not, but that is how BAD I feel. Faked it for a few days by taking Commit, a nikotine tablet, actually smoked for 2 days, then the Commit.

Realized (duh) that each time you take ANY kind of nicotine, you are re-starting with your craving, all over. So, how am I doing now?

IT SUCKS!

MY WHOLE BODY is in craving mode. My face, my pores, my hair, my scalp, my nails, bla, bla, bla, bla, and then some f####ing some, bla, bla, bla. (I hope you get the fffffffff picture).

THIS TIME, however, don't care what ANYONE says (or does) I AM QUITTING, period.

Funny thing is, I already had 2 people trying to piss me off in a BAD way. I refused to buy into it and decided that if their motto was to try to get me to smoke again, yes, I would go to the store and buy a pack of smoke and write a LOVELY note saying enjoy as i DROPPED off the pack at THEIR doorstep.

Sorry, I do not have a mean bone in my body but when I am struggling and you find out that people are trying to sabotage you (people you NEVER EVEN THAUGHT COULD DO THAT), a little disappointiung to say the least.

Long story short,........

Went to the health food store and bought some supplements, will let you know if they made a difference, take care, Eva
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Karen Blundell

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Norma Holt

Smokers stink like a sewer. As an ex smoker of some many years I cannot stand to even be in the vicinity of a smoker. Do you wash because of BO problems? If so then think of your smoking hygiene, or rather lack of it. You are transmitting filth and taking filth into your body every time you puff on a filthy cigarette.

Hope this helps

God bless

Norma

Norma, you're one of those ex-smokers, are you? Where's your compassion? Do you not remember how difficult it was to quit?

I'm an ex-smoker...it will be 2 years this August 27 since I quit. I did it cold-turkey when I was ready.

Instead of being mean to smokers, I have enormous compassion for people who do smoke. They are not evil people, they are not criminals, they are not low-lifes, they are people...usually good hard-working people with a problem.

Eva, you will quit smoking when you are ready to quit and not before. Do not let anyone bully you or intimidate you. You are a wonderful person who deserves everything good.

If you need any encouragement, please do contact me. I will give you all the moral support you need.
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TLTheLiberator

15 years ago

Good luck with your quest.

You can do it.

I stopped about 15 years ago.

Just think...

who's in charge of my life me or the cigarette companies?

It is also a physical problem so get a patch, gum or whatever to sooth the withdrawal process.

Hope This Helps!!

All The Best To You & Yours!!

TL

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Goatboy

15 years ago

I quit almost 10 years ago. Every now and then I think about smoking again, but all I have to do is remember the pain of quitting and the desire goes away. Good luck.

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Vikuna2009+ 15 years ago

Thank you guys, for sure, it is going to be a tough one!!!
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- xiaophil 15 years ago
  
  Hi Vikuna,
  
  Originally Posted by Vikuna2009+
  
  Thank you guys, for sure, it is going to be a tough one!!!
  
  Or maybe not.
  
  I stopped about eight years ago after trying a number of things.
  
  What would you say if someone were to tell you that the withdrawal symptoms from nicotine are so subtle as to be hardly noticeable?
  
  What prevents us from stopping so easily is much more insidious.
  
  I second the recommendation of Alan Carr's book. For a few dollars and a couple of hours reading it could be a life changer:
  
  Amazon.com: The Easy Way to Stop Smoking: Join...
  
  Let us know how you get on,
  
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  susanm 15 years ago
  
  I smoked for a long time, and tried to quit many times before I was able to do it. It's now been over 20 years since I quit, and I don't miss cigarettes at all any more. In fact, I can hardly stand being around them at all now. If I can get to this point, you can too.
  
  There are several things that helped me to quit for good. One was realizing that the urge to smoke went away, whether I smoked a cigarette or not. Of course, it came back again later, but each time it did, I would remind myself that the urge would go away whether I smoked or not. And it always did.
  
  I also committed to just not lighting up, no matter what. If that meant feeling bad, then I would feel bad, but I wasn't going to smoke, period. I think this willingness to feel whatever I felt, even if it was bad, actually made quitting easier than I thought it would be.
  
  Another thing I did for a while was put a big red X on the calendar each day that I didn't smoke. It was very satisfying seeing the X's start to add up.
  
  And as John said, start thinking of yourself as a non-smoker. Every time you feel like lighting up, think, "But I'm a non-smoker. Smoking a cigarette would just be silly. It's not something a non-smoker would do." Keep telling yourself that, and eventually you will believe it. Then it will really be true.
  
  Good luck to you. You can do this. And you will be so glad you did.
  
  Susan
  
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Christie01

15 years ago

I was never a smoker, but a close friend of mine was. She quit just over a year ago. I'm not trying to sound like a commercial, and I have no vested interest in the company

but she was never able to do it until she tried Chantix. Just thought I'd make the suggestion if you are uncertain that you can do it on your own.

You sound really determined, and I'm proud of you for that. Best of luck to you!

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John Sullivan 15 years ago

It is very hard to kick the habit, I have been a non smoker for 25 years but the urge is always there to light one from time to time. Try to be strong and you can overcome this problem.

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roukarous

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Christie01

I was never a smoker, but a close friend of mine was. She quit just over a year ago. I'm not trying to sound like a commercial, and I have no vested interest in the company

but she was never able to do it until she tried Chantix. Just thought I'd make the suggestion if you are uncertain that you can do it on your own.

You sound really determined, and I'm proud of you for that. Best of luck to you!

The right name is Champix. It really works well as I used it when it was launched. The only mistake NOT to make is to stop Champix after 3 weeks like I did because 2 months later I was smoking again.

My doctor told me that it's ok to use this medication for about a year which ensures a 70% success rate up till 1 year after the treatment.

I purchased a new package now and will follow my doctor's advice. I'm smoking since I was 14 and at 51 I feel it is time to get rid of that s**t. A human body is incredibely strong, but you can't push it to far forever.

Good luck to the ones giving it a try!

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Craig Fenton

15 years ago

Hi Vikuna:

Best of luck on the quest and make it to the finish line.

I have never smoked but always root for people to make excellent health decisions.

Keep us posted and don't give in to stress.

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JohnMcCabe 15 years ago

Vikuna, a large part of it is mental. Like Mark Twain wrote, quitting was easy for me - I did it dozens of times. What finally worked for me was making the mental shift from 'trying to quit smoking' to 'I'm not a smoker'. The day that shift kicked in, I threw away the nails for good.

I always wondered what went through the first smoker's mind...

"Hey, I've got an idea. I'll roll these weeds up in a cylinder, set them on fire and stick them in my mouth..."

Stick with it - we're pulling for you.
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LKKnecht

15 years ago

I'm not a smoker, but I want to applaud your decision to stop. I hope you make it and I hope you find the support you're looking for.

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Star Riley

15 years ago

I use to smoke weed and when I became a Christian I prayed for self control and appreciation of life.

"By constant self-discipline and self-control you can develop greatness of character."

When I spoke to a pastor who was also a former thug he said "imagine every time you see yourself putting that ____ in your mouth imagine whatever vile thing you would never put in your mouth and it should help get your mind away from that desire."

That along with the continual reading of the Bible helped me a lot. I will pray for you and wish you the most success with your endeavor

Be blessed..

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AtomicFlipper

15 years ago

Good luck with your quest, I know it will be hard, but you should be thinking of all that money you will save so you can waste...errr...invest on internet marketing products.

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theinfomaven

15 years ago

Reloadable electronic cigarrettes with cartridges.

Or just drink green tea.

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Cornelius G

15 years ago

Must be a life-changing decision for you. You will need all the support you can get to make it a permanent decision. Pray that your health last even after you stop to smoke. Because all that "stuff" during all these years are now inside yourbody system. GREAT decision and all the best. YOU-CAN-MAKE-IT....

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BeauJustin

15 years ago

You should take your cig-money and apply it toward your web business.

In all seriousness, you'll be glad you quit. I've never smoked before, so I can't speak to the benefits of it personally. But having watched family members quit and seeing how much different they look (and smell. sorry. it's true.) even a few short months afterward - it's awesome.

You'll be amazed at the blessings that take place out of this seemingly small step toward self-improvement.

A word of caution though:be vigilant. This will always be a struggle for you. It will always be a temptation to go back to the old ways. And anytime you fall off the wagon, makes it harder to get back on again.

For what it's worth - I just prayed for ya, and I'll keep doing that.

God bless,

Beau

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Daniel Scott

15 years ago

It's just like any other addiction/problem.

If you really want to quit, you will.

If your desire to smoke outweighs your desire to quit (which it seems to be doing), then you won't.

What do you want from us? You're the one who has to make the decision to stop smoking. And that's all it is. A decision.

You know, I absolutely HATE exercising. But every time I don't feel like it, I understand that I have a CHOICE. Work out... or get fat. Same as when I order a pizza. That's not to say I don't eat pizza from time to time - I do - but I'm aware that I'm going to have to spend extra time in teh gym to compensate for it.

Saying things like "Thank you guys, for sure, it is going to be a tough one!!!" is what makes it tough.

So stop whining about how hard it is... and just do it.

Simple, no?

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JeffLam 15 years ago

It's all in your mind, man!

Everything starts from your mind. No matter how many people support you to stop smoking and all, if you yourself can't stop then there's no point.

Have some self discipline - you are after all, 53 years old.

Distract your mind with other things!

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- Vikuna2009+ 15 years ago
  
  Well, I figured if I made this an official statement that it would help me (and you too). Thank you for all your encouraging words. Filth? Yeah, that was a little harsh but I do understand. Anyone want to join?
  
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Flyingpig7

15 years ago

I feel your pain, I share a house with someone who cannot quit (very challenging), finds it hard to cut down. Believe me you know when they have a bear head.
Hope you succeed you have done it once before why not again just for longer.
Good wishes

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Matt Gannon

15 years ago

I don't smoke and I never will... I live with people that smoke, every year they try to quite and cant.. I don't know man, if i felt I had to do anything id do it. just do it!

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Hackbridge 15 years ago

I've never smoked myself, but being a John Grisham fan, I read "Runaway Jury" which isn't about a lawsuit for guns, but smoking (which is the lesser evil?) and in the book it goes into detail what smoking does to the lungs. I particularly remember it mentioning the tar that lines the lungs, etc, etc.

No doubt, there are Warriors who enjoy smoking, I don't know how, but if anyone wants to quit I wholeheartedly wish them all the best in their endeavours. Go for it!

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MaxG

15 years ago

If you really want to quit then you can quit, stopped a few months ago after reading Allen Carr's book Stop smoking, he takes every reason why you smoke and shows that's it's nonsense. If you never doubt it it will be easy after a week

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15 years ago

I am a smoker, I have been for 10 years, and I dont want to quit. I DO like a ciggie with my morning coffee. I DO like a ciggie after lunch. And God I LOVE a ciggie while enjoying a cold beer in the evenings.

Smoking kills? sure it does - just as much as stress, working long hours, dump apartments, traffic, bitter ex-girlfriends, junk food and a whole load of other things... and guess what? I still freaking LOVE a ciggie with a cold beer!

You say you're already 53 years old, and you say that your mum is also a smoker. How old is she? by your age, I'd say she's between 75 and 85 years old. You folks are already having a long life... stop worrying about smoking for Christ sake!

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Emily Meeks

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate

I am a smoker, I have been for 10 years, and I dont want to quit. I DO like a ciggie with my morning coffee. I DO like a ciggie after lunch. And God I LOVE a ciggie while enjoying a cold beer in the evenings.

Smoking kills? sure it does - just as much as stress, working long hours, dump apartments, traffic, bitter ex-girlfriends, junk food and a whole load of other things... and guess what? I still freaking LOVE a ciggie with a cold beer!

You say you're already 53 years old, and you say that your mum is also a smoker. How old is she? by your age, I'd say she's between 75 and 85 years old. You folks are already having a long life... stop worrying about smoking for Christ sake!

Even if it's not a health concern, cigarette smoking IS a financial drain. $3.50 every day for 40 years... that's not even considering the CO, lead and radioactive material that's pumping through your lungs.

That said, somebody suggested above that you use your cigarette money for your business. A pack is $3.60? Set aside $3.50 every day that you would've spent on a pack. Spend that money on your business instead. You can also use the money at the end of every month to buy yourself a reward - nothing big, a small gift for your spouse or a trip to the movies would suffice.

It'll be easier said than done. I found this quote recently and remember it when I feel like whining - here it is so when temptation gets rough you'll remember it too:

"Don't tell me how hard it is or how much effort it will take, just get it done." - Jane Mark

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Mark Brian

15 years ago

I've only smoked occasionally for a total of around 6 months when stressed. When I started to feel a slight change in my breathing, I knew I had to stop it. Good thing I didn't get addicted. I guess you can do it too now that you have a focused goal of making more money as well as making more years in life!

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Tyrus Antas

15 years ago

Half a million? More like 50k. That said, good luck with your new adventure.

Tyrus

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Vikuna2009+ 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Tyrus Antas

Half a million? More like 50k. That said, good luck with your new adventure.

Tyrus

Your math is so much better than mine ! I guess a zero snuck in there somehow :confused:. Still, a total waste both financially and health-wise.
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Don Schenk

15 years ago

When I was a kid, everyone smoked... my parents, the neighbors, my aunts and uncles, the local shop keepers, even the guy doing the evening news on TV. He had a cigarette going the entire time he was on the air.

So at age 12 I did a stupid thing - I started smoking. Duh!

By high school years I was completely hooked. The crazy part is the high shool had a large smoking lounge for the students - even had a cigarette machine in there for students to buy smokes!

I remember saying to myself, "Someday I'll quit." Well, I did right after finishing college. It was one of the most uncomfortable two weeks of my life, and two weeks is how long it took for my body to stop craving a cigarette. Then it all became easier.

That was 40 years ago, haven't smoked since.

I think using the patch would just postpone the actual final quitting. It's a lot like a heroin addict taking methadone... he doesn't need his street drugs because he takes a legal substitute. The only way he can get off the junk is to finally quit it all - including his maintainence methadone.

Likewise an alcoholic can not just cut down the amount he/she drinks because drinking just a little keeps the craving going. It takes a decision to finally quit altogether.

Your body and brain have an addiction to nicotine and to the habit of putting something in your mouth. The quitting process is the same as for any other addiction. It is done one day at a time.

Take a hint from the 12 step groups and tell yourself, "I might smoke next Saturday, I don't know, because it isn't Saturday yet. But I will quit for today and get to make the decision again tomorrow." Thus the one day at a time.

I have a very dear friend (the same age as I am) who lives in Park City, Utah. He is a Realtor(R) and had to "retire" because he is now on oxygen. Five years ago he almost died from pneumonia. The docs had to put him into a medicine induced coma so they could put him on life support to do his breating while they found an antibiotic that would work. He got through that, but still didn't quit smoking.

I used to go skiing with him a lot each winter, but not any more. He is now tied to his oxygen tank by his Emphysema and COPD... both caused by smoking. He is on oxygen and he continues to smoke.

BTW I sent you a PM.

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kkrueger

15 years ago

I quit smoking 10 years ago because I thought I was pregnant. I wasn't. But I knew I would be, and I put them down and never picked them up again.

I know what it feels like...it's like losing a bestfriend. But I never regretted it. Since then I had my twins...and I never think of smoking. Now I just eat! LOL

But I had stopped once before...and the vision that I held in my mind was the old lady in the TV commercial that was sitting in a hospital bed hooked up to oxygen with a hole in her throat and emphysema...pleading with the TV audience to quit smoking.

But the second time I did it for my children's sake. And since we live in California...it's very easy to stay stopped. I don't have any friends that smoke, restaurants and public places don't allow you to smoke. You can't even take smoke breaks unless you stand outside 30 feet away from the building.

PM me if you are still struggling...I have something that might help and it will only take a minute.

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Magic Johnson 15 years ago

Your math are completely off by 100s of Ks,

Try to focus not on the money... focus on the health aspects and well being of getting your smoky clouds to vanish from your life,

The fact that you put numbers in there, just is as a means to put justice in to a negative part in your life that tells you it's okkayy doing a ciggi, and a pack per
day so you are searching in the wrong area.

Keeping your mind clean and feeling that you are not being a part of the right group. Could have been your first step towards better healthier choices.
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Sylvia Meier

15 years ago

I've never smoked and never will, it just never enticed me...just more made me sick, between the smell and everything else. (If you have to think of it from the way people may see you...and smell you... ) Then at 18 I watched my grandmother die from lung cancer as a result of smoking, that sealed my vow to never smoke. My grandfather who had smoked for 50+ years quit cold turkey that day, been 11 years he hasn't smoked, so it is never too late to quit, just take it one day at a time, and each day remember you're a non-smoker.

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Igor Kheifets

15 years ago

Hey Vikuna,

I would recommend reading "The easy way to stop smoking"
by Allen Carr. My mom used to smoke for 40 years and after
reading that book quit just like that.

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Preben Frenning

15 years ago

Well, personally I'm as far away from being a "health" freak, it's even scary.

I eat WHATEVER I want, frequently smoke, and I use "Snus" as well. (I think it's similar to american Snuff)

I'm still young, and on my way to riches. Life is too short to worry too much =)

Yet, I still agree smoking is bad. Of course! It's a bad idea to start with it, and you should quit if you want.

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Vikuna2009+

15 years ago

Hi, spent about 20 minutes to your post and it totally dispappeared! Anyway, seeing my client not even being able to walk 20 yards made it for me. Wanna walk - quit. Have I quit yet, no but I did not smoke for 12 hours until I gave in and had 3 HITS (yes, that is what it really is, a drug and I even hate taken aspirin).

Seriously, I just wanted to cry, seeing my client grasping for air, not even being able to cross a minimal parking space, without taking 15 minutes, which would take you less than 1, period.

Best of luck, Eva (I need it too....)

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Well, personally I'm as far away from being a "health" freak, it's even scary.

I eat WHATEVER I want, frequently smoke, and I use "Snus" as well. (I think it's similar to american Snuff)

I'm still young, and on my way to riches. Life is too short to worry too much =)

Yet, I still agree smoking is bad. Of course! It's a bad idea to start with it, and you should quit if you want.

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megabuck4u 14 years ago

I think you have taken the first step by making this post. A problem shared is half solved. As they say attitude is everything. Your perception create your reality. Start seeing yourself as a non-smoker. Let us know of your progress. More strength.
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Vikuna2009+

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Preben Frenning

Well, personally I'm as far away from being a "health" freak, it's even scary.

I eat WHATEVER I want, frequently smoke, and I use "Snus" as well. (I think it's similar to american Snuff)

I'm still young, and on my way to riches. Life is too short to worry too much =)

Yet, I still agree smoking is bad. Of course! It's a bad idea to start with it, and you should quit if you want.

Preben, being young and Norvegian, you should know better (coning from a Swede). Yes, I am inhaling right now and it hurts. I guess my aged G-spot is finally catching up with me...

PLEASE, don't do it, you''ll regret. I DID have a nice break from it but tomorrow iw another day, I WILL prevail.

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mywebwork

15 years ago

I'm just a few years younger than you and this October 6th will mark the 29th anniversary of my quitting that disgusting habit. When I quit I was smoking 3 1/2 packs a day and that was in Canada where a pack was 25 cigarettes (as opposed to the 20 you got in an American pack). So I was smoking about 90 cigarettes a day.

Had I continued to smoke at that rate I would have consumed close to one million additional cigarettes by now - that's assuming I was even still alive! I have heard that on average every cigarette takes away 5 minutes of your lifespan.

Quitting smoking was by far the best thing I have ever done for myself (the 2nd best was absolving from fast food - the last time I ate at McDonald's was in May of 1982).

The catalyst that caused me to drop the cigarettes was silly but it worked. I was driving home one night playing a tape of the 70's rock band Yes and was trying to sing along. My voice started to crack and my throat felt painful. I put the cigarette out in the ashtray and said "That's it, I quit!". I have not smoked since!

Seeing your client relying on oxygen may be the catalyst you need to do the same thing. I sincerely hope that it is.

It's a tough fight, you may gain some weight and you may also have to alienate your smoker friends for a while but it is so worth it.

All the best in your efforts.

Aloha

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dorim

15 years ago

I never smoked and I am glad. My friend in college smoked and could not quit, I hated looking at her with smoke coming out of her nose so one day I took a picture of her with all that nasty smoke coming out her nose and gave her the picture - that was all the inducement she needed to quit smoking. She bought a self-hypnosis tape and a lot of packs of candy and managed to quit permanently after a few weeks.

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appr 15 years ago

Hi, Vikuna,

The book that people are recommending sounds like it could help a lot.

There is a technique called EFT (Emotional Freedom Technique) that has helped people with a lot of things they wanted to change. Here is a link to a page that has a link to a free e-course. The link to the course is in the first line under the video.

Good luck!

I don't have enough posts to include a link, so I'll include some spaces.

mercola (dot) com/ forms/ eftcourse. htm

All the best,
Joan
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  Well, you certainly do know how to write a headline (even if your math was off) so you should do just fine pumping all your cig money into IM!
  
  Best of luck -- it's an excellent decision you've made.
  
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15 years ago

You can do it!!

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Dave Holmes

15 years ago

Hi mate I made the decision to stop 10 years ago. Best decision of my life. I read Allan Carrs stop smoking book I strongly recommend this book it makes it very easy to give up. I have since passed the book onto 9 friends 8 of those have given up. If you use this book and it works buy it for 3 other people and tell them to do the same. You can do it.

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Loren Woirhaye 15 years ago

I don't smoke and I'm not really prone to addictions,
but here's a method of quitting described in Robert
Cialdini's book "Influence":

- Make a list of the people whose opinion of you and
your character is important to YOU.

- Make a pact with each and every one promising
that you are done smoking for good.

Hard to do?

Yeah. It will be, because you'll be turning yourself into
a spineless liar if you go back on your word.

I call these sorts of things "traps" - you commit to
change by effectively cutting-off your path of retreat.
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gareth 15 years ago

I haven't smoked in over 20 years.

Gave up pot cigarettes, alcohol, pain killers even caffeine at 17 years old.

I was a street kid and a drug addict.

I hate smokers but only second to drug users and drunks. That includes pot smokers too.

There is nothing worse than walking down the street and some A-hole lights up a smoke while walking in front of you and you have to breathe the crap.

Smokers are generally selfish and inconsiderate.

Pot smokers and drug users are worse. There is the holier than thou "I know better than you because I use drugs" delusional attitude which is utterly pathetic I might add.

I was only an adolescent when I did these things so I forgave myself but as an adult there is no excuse.
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15 years ago

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Marc Jager

15 years ago

I'm glad Norma responded to kadensnga's critisism, if she hadn't, I would have.
Norma's no nonsense (call it tough love) approach is just as valid as anyone else's kadensnga!

I'm actually more inclined to agree with comments like Daniel Scott's.

Coming to an IM forum for help should be a warning sign that you aren't creating the right mindset to make that CHOICE (to become a non-smoker).

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dorothydot

15 years ago

I love your determination and respect you for deciding.

Here's a suggestion: maybe your client on oxygen would understand if you told HER your story and how her predicament affected you. If it were me on oxygen, the thought that I could inspire someone else to quit and live longer, better - would lend a bit of purpose to my suffering.

Get a photo of her and her oxygen tank - post it where you see it every day. That could well remind you of why you MUST quit.

And quit you must. You're 53. What kind of retirement are you looking for? When (not if!) you succeed in this copywriting/internet marketing arena and get rich enough to do whatever you want...

You need to be able to DO it! What's your fondest dream?

Hiking? Camping the USA? Dancing? Traveling? Sailing a boat or even diving?

Get photos of your dream activities and post them around your home AND office.

Then make sure those dreams come true.

QUIT! Just do it - as they say.

Hey - I have an idea. Let "Aunt Dot" teach you how to knit, lol. Then your hands and mind will be soooo busy figuring out all that yarn and 2 needles ... that you'll never miss your cigs.

Dot

PS - Please PM me - we can Skype together weekly and I PROMISE to hold you to your quitting. Hey, I'm a pretty good cheerleader, lol.

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Vikuna2009+

15 years ago

Originally Posted by dorothydot

I love your determination and respect you for deciding.

Here's a suggestion: maybe your client on oxygen would understand if you told HER your story and how her predicament affected you. If it were me on oxygen, the thought that I could inspire someone else to quit and live longer, better - would lend a bit of purpose to my suffering.

Get a photo of her and her oxygen tank - post it where you see it every day. That could well remind you of why you MUST quit.

And quit you must. You're 53. What kind of retirement are you looking for? When (not if!) you succeed in this copywriting/internet marketing arena and get rich enough to do whatever you want...

I LOOOVE GREECE! At one time, did speak it semi-fluently (enough to get dropped of a boat on an island and spending MONTHS island hopping. Well, that was way back. Last time I went back was about 7-8 years ago and SOOOO disappointing.

To commercialised. Other hobbies of the past, pretty good at engligsh riding. Was a fashion patten maker (don't work in L.A.). Dreamed about living in a where house (downtown L.A.) and drinking red wine on grand openings of art galleries.

Did go to a lot of under-ground clubs but I am not 20 anymore. What to do now, still not sure. However, if I want to do ANYTHING, got to stop.

Yes, I did lose my grandmother in a very horrible way. She needed surgery but since she was a smoker, would not survive the surgery. Instead, she withered away for 2 years and at the end, was not even capable to utter one word.

Yes, I am proud of myself, not smoking for 12 hours. Tomorrow, I will do better, thank you all for your contributions, best of luck, Eva
You need to be able to DO it! What's your fondest dream?

Hiking? Camping the USA? Dancing? Traveling? Sailing a boat or even diving?

Get photos of your dream activities and post them around your home AND office.

Then make sure those dreams come true.

QUIT! Just do it - as they say.

Hey - I have an idea. Let "Aunt Dot" teach you how to knit, lol. Then your hands and mind will be soooo busy figuring out all that yarn and 2 needles ... that you'll never miss your cigs.

Dot

PS - Please PM me - we can Skype together weekly and I PROMISE to hold you to your quitting. Hey, I'm a pretty good cheerleader, lol.

I LOOOVE GREECE! At one time, did speak it semi-fluently (enough to get dropped of a boat on an island and spending MONTHS island hopping. Well, that was way back. Last time I went back was about 7-8 years ago and SOOOO disappointing.

To commercialised. Other hobbies of the past, pretty good at engligsh riding. Was a fashion patten maker (don't work in L.A.). Dreamed about living in a where house (downtown L.A.) and drinking red wine on grand openings of art galleries.

Did go to a lot of under-ground clubs but I am not 20 anymore. What to do now, still not sure. However, if I want to do ANYTHING, got to stop.

Yes, I did lose my grandmother in a very horrible way. She needed surgery but since she was a smoker, would not survive the surgery. Instead, she withered away for 2 years and at the end, was not even capable to utter one word.

Yes, I am proud of myself, not smoking for 12 hours. Tomorrow, I will do better, thank you all for your contributions, best of luck, Eva
You need to be able to DO it! What's your fondest dream?

Hiking? Camping the USA? Dancing? Traveling? Sailing a boat or even diving?

Get photos of your dream activities and post them around your home AND office.

Then make sure those dreams come true.

QUIT! Just do it - as they say.

Hey - I have an idea. Let "Aunt Dot" teach you how to knit, lol. Then your hands and mind will be soooo busy figuring out all that yarn and 2 needles ... that you'll never miss your cigs.

Dot

PS - Please PM me - we can Skype together weekly and I PROMISE to hold you to your quitting. Hey, I'm a pretty good cheerleader, lol.[/quote]

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Vikuna2009+ 15 years ago

Hi all,

sorry, don't know what I did wrong but my message kind of got scrambled with the post that I was trying to respond to and I do not know how to fix it.... Bear with me, thank you.
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Vikuna2009+

15 years ago

I beg to differ, ANYTHING you can do to get off your habit (or learh someting that can actually make you money, that what'w forums are actually about.

Why did I do it? well, as you can see, I have no sig, not promoting anything, only trying to learn AND TRY TO CONNECT with some other fellow people that might BENEFIT from one of my meager contributions.

Sorry, just my to ores...

Originally Posted by Marc Jager

I'm glad Norma responded to kadensnga's critisism, if she hadn't, I would have.
Norma's no nonsense (call it tough love) approach is just as valid as anyone else's kadensnga!

I'm actually more inclined to agree with comments like Daniel Scott's.

Coming to an IM forum for help should be a warning sign that you aren't creating the right mindset to make that CHOICE (to become a non-smoker).

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greff

15 years ago

My story is much like yours. To encourage you, I quite cold turkey 6 years ago and, trust me, I was totally addicted.

All that smoking caused gum disease in my mouth for which I have to get 9 teeth pulled and other extensive work done. That may cost me another $511,000 as dentists charge more than doctors.

So, smoking causes you to get sick and go broke and it literally takes your breath away!

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ildarius

15 years ago

I would like all of yuou Warriors to support me with positive encouragement and if you happen to be a smoker, let's quit together!

Can't make a pact, because I quit 7 months ago, but it's a very sound decision and the one that you'll be able to go through with!

After a couple of months you'll rediscover how tasty the food can be and how amazing the warm summer breezes smell.

Good luck and don't give up

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andiNICURN

15 years ago

I never smoked, but boy my mom did! Picture someone smoking a cigarette, then putting it in the ashtray while brushing her teeth, and then picking up the still burning cig and continuing to smoke afterward! aaaggghhh. It was so gross! She quit slowly over 7 days by "allowing" herself only limited cigs each day. When she got down to no cigs per day she chewed on drinking straws, ate sunflower seeds, and stayed clear of habitual smoke settings. I never thought she'd do it, but it has been 4 years now. She still dreams about cigs tho. LOL. Good luck to all who try or are trying!

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elle56

15 years ago

I was smoker myself in the past. I quit cold turkey when I got pregnant with my son. Since then, I never touched a cigarette. My motivation was my kid.

Withdrawal is going to be tough. But it's possible to kick the habit. Save your lungs and your health. All the best.

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John Durham 15 years ago

Norma,

Point taken, and I appreciate your passion.

You have my apologies for being offensive... I am TOTALLY for anyone who wants to quit smoking, however in the event that they do not succeed for one reason or another, there's no need to make them feel like they are in "filthy".

It's a passtime that many people all over the world participate in, and not nearly as many are adversely affected as the ones who kill themselves making McDonalds rich.

If you knew all the parasites that come to life in your body when you partake of putting sugar in your iced tea, or eating a doughnut... then perhaps all doughnut eaters are filthy as well...

I see your point, however calling people "filthy" goes against my grain.

As encouraging as you are trying to be to this man; if he doesn't succeed will you consider him "filth"?

Is he only a worthwhile person if he successfully joins the ranks of non smokers?

I know that's not what you were saying, but that's how you came across.

The point I was making was that "Just because something may or may not be true, you don't have to say it with so much disgust".

The 'truth' is that you sounded like the lady from the movie "carey", but it hurt when I shed light to that it, and I didnt have to take it that far, and shouldn't have...

My point was "can't you use more tact in making your point"? By the obvious eloquence of written communication which you possess, I'm sure you can.

BTW
I recently had two aunts pass away in the last couple of years from cancer who were not only wives of Pentecostal ministers, but also the most health conscious people on earth, and they both considered smoking filth, told me to quit smoking every time I saw them. That hurt me very much to see them pass away, so I dont take it lightly , and I believe that smoking increases the risk of cancer, but "not smoking" doesn't lessen the risk necessarily.

Ps. to Mark Jager: In answer to your condescension in the "Secret vs.God post" yes God was probably sitting on a cloud when he invented attraction... ; real valuable input you offered there!

BTW: asking for help from members of a community whose input you find valuable, and committing yourself to a goal publicly to create built in accountability is a GREAT choice, and proves you have the right mindset to potentially achieve your goal!!!!!
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chrischua

15 years ago

Hmmm.. I wonder why is it so difficult to quit?
I've always fascinated by smkers who kept saying they want to quit but can't.
Well maybe I could control, hmm.

But All the best bro! =)
Oh maybe u could try those sweets that helps stop smking addiction?
=)

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15 years ago

Good luck. I always said I wouldn't smoke when I was 14 but being a stupid teenager I started smoking canabis. Haven't smoked that since I was 19 and i'm now 23 (btw canabis isn't addictive don't let anyone tell you otherwise). But tobacco is, I have tried stopping a couple of times. Twice I have gave up for 2 months then caved in. Hope you manage it, wish I never started.

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15 years ago

Have you thought about quitting smoking through hypnosis?

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Sam Rodrigo

15 years ago

Hi,

Why not quit yourself and setup a site to show others how to do it? And even recover, before it's too late...

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jakeh9

15 years ago

Good luck!!!
I got lucky the first time I tried to smoke when I was 12 - put the cigarette on the couch and almost burnt our house down. That cured me!!

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seoenter

15 years ago

40 years * 365 * $3.50 = $51,100
Not half million but only 50 thousands.
But for 50 thousands you can buy very good SUV car.

Yeah. I also smoke but less than you - 20 years.

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Take a pack a day times 365 days a year times 40 years, average it out at $3.50 a pack and there is your HALF MILLION!

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15 years ago

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jerodrx

15 years ago

As a former smoker i know that trying to quit is a living hell,
and when you finally do it you will feel like heaven.

Smoking cigarretes really stink!

You just can't run or take long walks,
you don't enjoy a good meal because
you're just thinking in the next cigarrette,
you don't enjoy sex because you're so
constantly tired that you just can't go
for much time.

And all the good things that anyone on this earth
has the right to enjoy, you just can't enjoy yourself
because of smoking.

Even your friends treat you like you have a contagious disease!

So my best advice is to not cut down from one day to
another.

Just cut down one cigarrette from yesterdays quote,
until you only smoke two or three daily, because of the
benefits you will feel in your body and in your mood,
you will have the desire to take those pack of garbage
out of your life forever.

Do you want to be a SLAVE forever?, because that is what
you are now, a slave from those multimillionaire companies
that sell their poison.

If you feel that you can't do it by yourself, then go
and find professional help.

My best wishes
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15 years ago

Good luck with your quest..

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adewaleas

15 years ago

Smoking is all about visualization. When you pick up a cigarette, your focus is how it boosts your image in front of your friends or peers. The swirl of that wavy smoke, the active motion of your body, the pose you strike all give smokers the impetus. It is kind of like running a marathon at one hundredth steam and keep assuring yourself that you are winning, you are winning.

Get rid of the image boosting character and visualize instead that anytime you smoke, you are actually rolling up a $100 bill and setting it on fire. If you like burning your own money, no one can stop you. If you do not like burning your own money, you will think had and gradually let go

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15 years ago

Wish you all the best with your aspirations.

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justfun54

15 years ago

Kadensga - appreciate your approach.

Norma - why have you got to be that disgusting, when some body is trying to overcome a personal problem.

We are all here - for a reson - to get better than what we already are.

I am 55 & smoker too - far less than I used to. Drank quite a lot. Left my job as a flight attendant after 32 years - 6 years prior to the stipulated age.

I was not happpy - lucky I was able to realise it - not having any personal achievements.

Crux is the willingness to change - God helps those who helps themselves.

Vikuna - I am with you all the way - sure you wqill succeed.

Give heed to the Sam.

Especially - dealing with children & matrimony -a change to an elevated level of vibes
woul mean a lot.

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Dima Kritchevski

15 years ago

I quit smoking after like 4 years a few months ago and it's going really well so far...

You can do it man, just start each day by visualising someone ELSES throat and lungs all ****ed up from smoking, works for me whenever I feel the urge to have a smoke!

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rbthanders

15 years ago

You might want to get something to play with in your hands. The kind of metal "dexterity" balls that old Chinese people play with really helped me. So much of my smoking habit was just needing something to do with the nervous energy in my hands.

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gus89

15 years ago

I smoke as well. It is very difficult to quit though....I guess it is matter of making a decision and sticking to it.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by Vikuna2009+

I would like all of yuou Warriors to support me with positive encouragement and if you happen to be a smoker, let's quit together!

Here's how I did it.

1. Smoke no more than one cigarette an hour. Get yourself on a schedule. When the clock strikes 7, you are allowed to have ONE cigarette before 8. If you don't have one, you don't get one that hour. If you have a cigarette at 6:45 and then are too busy to go have another one until 8:20, you do NOT get to have two cigarettes before 9. You get one. Just one. That's all.

2. Once you're on this schedule, you're under a pack a day already. Now comes the fun part. When you wake up in the morning, you're not allowed to have a cigarette that hour. If you get up at 8, you can't have a cigarette until after 9.

3. Every week, extend that waiting period by one hour. Next Monday morning, you'll start waiting two hours for your first cigarette. The following Monday, you'll start waiting three. And so on. And so forth.

Two things will naturally happen as you do this. First, you will forget cigarettes more frequently. Second, you will start enjoying your cigarettes less.

So when you get down to your last four or five cigarettes, and your first cigarette isn't until after dinner, you'll start dreading it and thinking "dammit, I have to go smoke a cigarette at 7." And then you'll just stop.

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15 years ago

Good Luck, My girl was just asking me to quit dipping today so I'm gonna start trying. I wish you the best of luck sincerely. I've quit once or so unsuccessfully. Just be preparred for the DTs and know that 72 hours or so later. It'll start to get easier. -J

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NijThinkIt

15 years ago

I had an idea for a product called Quit Smoking To Quit Your Day, that would combine quit smoking hypnotherapy course with an IM course that shows you show to put the money you would save from not smoking into internet marketing and quit smoking.

I am a pharmacist by qualification and I realise that the reason most people smoke is because they are stressed with their jobs and bored. IM is the best solution to alleviate boredom and quit your job!

I never got round to marketing the product but this post just reminded me of it.

Message me if anyone is interested in doing something with it!

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doctfeelgood

14 years ago

Originally Posted by NijThinkIt

I had an idea for a product called Quit Smoking To Quit Your Day, that would combine quit smoking hypnotherapy course with an IM course that shows you show to put the money you would save from not smoking into internet marketing and quit smoking.

I am a pharmacist by qualification and I realise that the reason most people smoke is because they are stressed with their jobs and bored. IM is the best solution to alleviate boredom and quit your job!

I never got round to marketing the product but this post just reminded me of it.

Message me if anyone is interested in doing something with it!

The reason people smoke is not always because of stress it is because of habbit. Those little neons in your brain keep you wanting it once you can stop those neons connecting habbit over.

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areevez

14 years ago

i quit smoking after reading a list of of about 3000 things in cigerettes, i didnt even get thru the list and it made me sick, disgusting stuff

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Sandycmy

14 years ago

After Reading this thread ---- Now I'm going out to smoke.

I just am looking out for something (some engaging work/clarity ) to replace the habit.

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Zeddicus

14 years ago

How is it going Vikuna2009+? I've been smoke free for 4 weeks now, it's hard but worth it, food already tastes so much better!

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michael_nguyen

14 years ago

I use to smoke aswell and I quit cold turkey. Use this program Quit Meter - Stop smoking; tools, support and chat to help you do this.

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thenyxhero 14 years ago

That would be $51.000
Not a HALF MILLION!!

Tip* Read allen carr's book.
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carolvally

14 years ago

Good Luck!

Get the first few days and weeks under your belt. Get a sniff of a smoker and that should put you off smoking for life! It worked that way for my husband!

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xntrik

14 years ago

An acquaintance of mine just quit - he's dead. Another I know is in the process of quitting by using the same method - dying - (he should be quitting any day now). One sure way to quit. Good to see you've landed on a good alternative.
xntrik

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holzman

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Vikuna2009+

Take a pack a day times 365 days a year times 40 years, average it out at $3.50 a pack and there is your HALF MILLION!

$3.5(pack) X 365(days)X 40(years) = $51100 (not $511000)

I just saved you $459900 :p

Now seriously, I you DECIDE to quit smoking - you almost done it.
It`s all up to you.

Wish you all the best.

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Oliver Allen

14 years ago

Hi Vikuna,

I don't smoke but I am here to support you. Just don't give up. Keep trying and working on stopping.

Although this is not like smoking I can say that I have been trying to make money online for over 15 years and haven't made any money yet but I will not quit, no not ever!

So keep working on it and you will win over this.

God Bless,

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juancito

14 years ago

I'd suggest getting the 'Smoke-Free' paraliminal from Learning Strategies Corporation. I've had great results from using their paraliminal programs.

All the best.

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DPSikes 14 years ago

Both of my parents smoked and both passed away in their early 50's. They only met 2 of their 11 grandchildren - the other 9 were born after they died. If you do nothing else, think of your legacy. Do you want to share memories with your children or grandchildren - or have them point to a picture of you and say, "He was a nice guy, but he smoked. Too bad you never knew him?"
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yukinara

14 years ago

I never smoke in my whole life. Sometime I don't understand while people have to do that until they realized that they are in deep **** and try to get out. Personally, I will just avoid any person who smoke nearly because they are KILLING me also
anyway, for anyone out there who smoke daily: PLEASE continue to do so, more people die, more place, more food, less fuel consumption, the world is full of idiots already, less will be better

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