Has Anyone Tried Hypnosis?

11 years ago

I have never tried hypnosis, but I have a friend who's father went to one to stop smoking. His father was smoking a cigarette as he walked up to the door of the building and he put it out in the can before entering the building.

Apparently, his father has not had a cigarette since that day.

I have been trying to get my Mom to try out hypnosis to stop smoking, but she refuses to try it.

I think if you have issues like low self esteem due to something that happened in the past than hypnosis could help in that type of situation.

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LastWarrior 11 years ago

Sorry, hypnosis not as you would expect for self-improvement, but for self-improvement on my appearance. It was over 25 years ago as a kid and I wanted to lose about 20lbs. I saw an ad for free hypnosis because the guy was getting credit or wanted to build his list of hypnosis students.

Anyway, the usual, shade down the room, get me to relax and then talk smoooooth and calm giving me instruction on how eating bad foods and candy bars(a weakness then of mine!) are bad for my health, etc.

At the end he said that I am to remember everything and will take note to what I learned, then will awaken refreshed at the count of zero.... 7, 6, 5, 4..... awaken.

I don't think it helped a bit, but what was incredible to me? The time. 4 hours had passed like it was nothing! I could not believe it. I had figured maybe 45 minutes tops! Not 4 hours!

Go figure. :confused:

LastWarrior

P.S. "To this day I still love my Snickers bars, Reeses Peanut Butter cups, Kit Katz and Musketeers bars! Been several months since I bought any of them though."
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chrisrhea

11 years ago

Hi I am a clinical hypnotherapist and have used self hypnosis consistently for the last 20 years. I find it very useful firstly to relax myself when I feel stressed and then to use positive suggestion in a very powerful way while relaxed. I think learning self hypnosis is the most powerful way to use hypnotherapy because you are in complete control of the process. Self hypnosis is very easy to learn. Firstly learn a deep relaxation process then use positive suggestion which is self created.. This bypasses your critical conscious mind and allows the positive suggestion to be placed into your subconscious where it continues to work positively for you.

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Dain Supero

11 years ago

Originally Posted by chrisrhea

Hi I am a clinical hypnotherapist and have used self hypnosis consistently for the last 20 years. I find it very useful firstly to relax myself when I feel stressed and then to use positive suggestion in a very powerful way while relaxed. I think learning self hypnosis is the most powerful way to use hypnotherapy because you are in complete control of the process. Self hypnosis is very easy to learn. Firstly learn a deep relaxation process then use positive suggestion which is self created.. This bypasses your critical conscious mind and allows the positive suggestion to be placed into your subconscious where it continues to work positively for you.

I'm neither a clinical hypnotherapist nor nearly as qualified as you. But I use something similar with my clients.

We use breath work, body awareness and focus, and visualization. I feel that visualization is communication bridge that connects your conscious and subconscious. By way of visualization your conscious mind can suggest or communicate your desires to your subconscious.

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Stephen Fosner 11 years ago

Hi, Could you please tell me more about how or where I could go to gain more detailed knowledge on self hypnosis?
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nim84

11 years ago

I have tired something similar - binural beats, I've found them quite time consuming, some of the tracks last over an hour and as it relaxes you, it becomes difficult to listen to them as you are doing you're work.

However that and hypnosis provides a good way to unwind after a stressful day, and i have noticed when i lay in bed at night it does have a soothing affect

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Nic Oliver

11 years ago

I use it with my clients and I also teach them self-hypnosis. It's important to remember that while a skilled hypnotherapist can get great results quickly, self-hypnosis takes longer as any product is much more generic.

The difference is that a skilled hypnotherapist tailor makes the session for the specific client and will often adapt the session on the fly by watching the client's response to suggestions.

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NewParadigm

11 years ago

Yep, i've used hypnosis recordings to get great relaxation, and yes, time does fly. My sis quit smoking cold turkey for a few years after 1 hypnosis session. If you have some faith in it, it can work well in many ways.

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bdpop 11 years ago

Every day. It is not like you would see on a stage somewhere. It is a cumulative effect that gets better and better. At least for me.
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GregBrooks

11 years ago

Sorry I forgot about this thread -- thanks for the responses! Definitely giving me the initiative to move further with exploring hypnotherapy

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ElainePete

11 years ago

I would be very afraid to try it. What if I do not wake up. Have you ever thought about this?

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Memetics 11 years ago

That's impossible. Even the slightest thing can bring you out of trance. You're not actually asleep, it's just that your conscious mind is running on idle and your unconscious is accessing the real world without being mediated or attenuated by it.
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BeverlyTaylor

11 years ago

Originally Posted by GregBrooks

Has anyone in here tried hypnosis for self-improvement?

It could be something like to help quit smoking, or to maintain a more positive attitude, gather more self-confidence, etc.

I'm particularly interested in giving it a go but have no experience. I was wondering if any Warriors have perspective to offer!

I am a Certified Hypnotherapist and hypnotherapy instructor with my own school. I also teach hypnotherapists in conventions how the brain works, how hypnosis works scientifically, etc.

Answer is yes, you can definitely use hypnosis for self-improvement.
Hypnosis with a hypnotherapist/hypnotist is the most effective for many reasons. Self hypnosis and hypnosis recordings are excellent but not as effective for the same amount of time. But they are usually excellent ways to do it daily and inexpensively. If they don't address your specific needs/preferences, they won't be as good. For example, one man asked for a refund on a CD because my voice sounded like his ex wife's voice and brought up too many issues related to her.

Hypnosis techniques from 25 years ago were not as effective as the ones we have today. There are many reasons why a specific technique or hypnotist doesn't work for you.
It's impossible to "not wake up". Hypnosis is just the state between being awake and asleep, so you will either wake up or fall asleep. There are a large number of myths like that about hypnosis. There is nothing to be afraid of.

BTW, not all hypnotherapy techniques nor hypnotherapists are as effective. There are all levels - some great, some terrible, and many in the middle.

Many hypnotherapists will do sessions via phone or skype, so you don't have to do it in person. It's mostly based on your comfort and certain techniques the hypnotherapist uses.

Please feel free to ask anything more.

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dutchguy 11 years ago

Don't know anything about hypnosis.

I would also recommended Anthony Robbins audio program Personal Power II for almost any goal.
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Mister Natural

11 years ago

Originally Posted by BeverlyTaylor

I am a Certified Hypnotherapist and hypnotherapy instructor with my own school. I also teach hypnotherapists in conventions how the brain works, how hypnosis works scientifically, etc.

Please feel free to ask anything more.

Hello Beverly,
regarding hypnosis recording techniques:
Have you come across any kind of data or study results that indicate the subconscious mind comprehends the human voice recorded backwards or,,, recorded at a much higher speed ??

The above are two techniques that are being "pitched" as
effective on some sites that sell audio recordings.
Sounds hard to believe to me.

I have had very positive results with one of the original
producers of self help recordings many years ago. And his techniques were quite basic considered to those "allegedly"
used today. One example is from one site claiming to provide you a recording containing 100,000 affirmations in an hour's time.
THat technique should require layer upon layer of spoken word recorded over each other and, I would think it would sound like a gargled mess.

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SteveSki 11 years ago

Three recommendations...

1) HPP HYPNOSIS

2) Instant Self-Hypnonis

3) Memorize the below script and practice it daily while in your self induced altered state.

My name is__________ I am a STRONG and powerful (man/woman) I am capable of anything that I set my mind to because I have complete FAITH in myself and my abilities. I am strong enough to face all of life's hurdles because I know they are sent to make me a stronger better person. I believe that every situation is an opportunity to learn something new about myself and to grow into my full potential. Sometimes life can be tough but I know that I AM TOUGHER. I know that my purpose in life is______________ and every day I do something to achieve my goals because I am a unique and special person who is deserving of every good thing the universe has to offer and in return I offer myself to be of service to others.

I am GRATEFUL for all that I have, for everything that has ever happened to me and for all that the future will bring because I know that I am supposed to be where I am right now at this very moment because it is preparing me for where I need to go and what I need to do. Every day is an opportunity to LIVE LOVE and LAUGH and to revel in the beauty of the world around me. I am connected to myself in the deepest of ways and I love and appreciate myself 100%. I am committed to making myself and my life better so that I can help others to do the same. I know that LOVE is all around me and I live with a PURE HEART and good intentions. I breathe POSITIVITY and HOPE and I know that I can change the world around me by changing the world inside of me. I live to be inspired and to inspire others and I know that my words and actions have power and I am RESPONSIBLE for everything that happens in my life. I am strong and confident and I know that my power comes from my belief in myself. I make a Daily Choice to do what is right for my BODY, for my MIND and for my SPIRIT and because I have the power of choice I am able to create the life I want for myself with every action and every thought.

I start my day with a still mind, a kind heart and a positive attitude and I believe that I am a good and valuable person who has much to offer so today I will be the BEST that I can be and do the BEST that I can do. I love myself for my achievements and I forgive myself for any mistakes because they will teach me how to succeed in the future. I refuse to allow negativity into my life and I will remain STRONG and POSITIVE through the good times and the bad. I am a CONFIDENCE WARRIOR and I am determined to live up to my limitless potential. I LOVE, HONOUR and CHERISH myself and those that I love and I am committed to making today and every day AMAZING.

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BeverlyTaylor

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Mister Natural

Hello Beverly,
regarding hypnosis recording techniques:
Have you come across any kind of data or study results that indicate the subconscious mind comprehends the human voice recorded backwards or,,, recorded at a much higher speed ??

The above are two techniques that are being "pitched" as
effective on some sites that sell audio recordings.
Sounds hard to believe to me.

I have had very positive results with one of the original
producers of self help recordings many years ago. And his techniques were quite basic considered to those "allegedly"
used today. One example is from one site claiming to provide you a recording containing 100,000 affirmations in an hour's time.
THat technique should require layer upon layer of spoken word recorded over each other and, I would think it would sound like a gargled mess.

Sorry I didn't respond earlier.

I don't personally like any of those techniques. I only use recordings where I can hear the words spoken normally. I also am not saying those recordings are without merit, but I will explain.

Here's what's very important about hypnosis. We all have a critical faculty which pushes away anything it deems wrong or dangerous or negative. So there are two important things that have to be done: bypass the critical faculty (or let it allow you through) and present to your subconscious/unconscious (whatever you wish to use) information that will achieve the desired results. Notice I didn't just say give it suggestions, as this is not always the most powerful technique.

I will give you a good example. Let's say that I go to a hypnotist to have less stress in my life and let's say I didn't tell the hypnotist that I almost drowned in the ocean as a kid and in another situation had to pull my family from the ocean when a freak wave almost drowned all of them. Needless to say, you can see that I understand the power of the ocean and what can occur. A common technique used by many hypnotists is to use an ocean scene to relax people - in fact this is the scenario that the majority of my clients use. But here's the catch - in my case, I always ask the client to dream up the scenario. So many hypnotists think they have to dream up the scenario (this is one reason they buy many scripts). As you can see, it would be powerful for me to relax in a mountain setting (my preference), but not relaxing if the hypnotist tries to have me relax at the ocean. There are many hypnosis techniques, but the most effective ones use ONLY metaphors created by the client.

Back to the subliminal and other techniques that may be used in a recording. If what's in the words doesn't work for the person as they are the wrong metaphor (such as the beach for me), then the suggestions won't work for the person. This is one of the biggest reasons that hypnosis may not work for a person. Another big reason is if the client doesn't trust the hypnotist. A funny thing is, the client doesn't have to "believe" in hypnosis, but does have to go along with it as if he/she believes. Regarding scientific proof, it's been done in many places, one of which is at Stanford. So if you think there is no scientific proof, it's just that you haven't read the science.

Lastly, there are techniques to release the negative vs to instill the positive (such as suggestions). My experience is that it's MUCH more successful to release the negative thoughts, feelings and beliefs, as the true desire is then released from its prison. This is one reason why interactive hypnosis is more powerful than just the simple "suggestion only" hypnosis. If I didn't have much time in a session, I would only do that and the rest takes care of itself. There's a lot more I could say about this, but that would be a much longer message.

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TomGlover

11 years ago

Hello... I have hear of people who have used hypnosis successful to create new beliefs, and habits.

...This is because you first get into a perfectly relaxed state, and then you plant the new beliefs directly into your subconscious mind. Therefore, there is no resistance from your conscious.

However, you need to make sure that you do this CONSISTENTLY for at least 21-30 days to see any results

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jimbeau

11 years ago

Hypnosis uses the natural trance state that many people know really well through their own direct experience - however, most people do not consciously know much about this state.

All hypnosis is self-hypnosis. You cannot be hypnotized unless you are willing. The US government experimented for years with hypnosis, trying to create super soldiers. A number of years ago, they declassified the ~1800 page report on MK Ultra - acknowledging in the report that hypnosis did not work for their purposes - they could could not get hypnosis to force people to do things they did not approve of!

What the hypnotist is skilled at is this - they can get you to go into deeper levels of trance. The deeper you go, the more direct is your communication with your unconscious mind. Since the conscious mind is not very active during these deep trances, it will generally not remember what happened in these trances.

If you really need to know, you can just go back into communications with the unconscious mind, ask it what happened, and get the information. Since the unconscious mind manages your memories, storing and retrieving memories at the request of the conscious mind, it always knows what happened.

Your unconscious mind is always alert. Since it runs your body, it is always active - it causes your heart to circulate your blood, your lungs to breathe, your legs to walk, your food to be digested...

If you consciously want to go somewhere, you just consciously intend it. Your unconscious mind immediately picks up your intent - it moves your legs or drives your car, or gets you on the plane or train, pretty much without any help or interference from your conscious mind!!!

When you drive on the highway for any length of time, you go into a light trance. This state occurs when your unconscious mind is more active than normal, and your conscious mind is content to refrain from its usual behavior of suppressing your unconscious mind - which it does almost all of the time.

Hypnotists get people to relax and as this happens to you, you naturally go into trance. Then the conscious mind becomes less active, and your unconscious mind can directly communicate with the hypnotist. If the hypnotist suggests things that the unconscious mind finds acceptable, it will immediately remember these things - without any resistance from the conscious mind. (The conscious mind tends to think it is in control of "everything" - which it clearly is NOT!)

Hypnosis works when there is trust between you and the hypnotherapist - otherwise it doesn't!

Regards, Jim [Carswell]

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LastWarrior

11 years ago

Originally Posted by jimbeau

The deeper you go, the more direct is your communication with your unconscious mind.

If you really need to know, you can just go back into communications with the unconscious mind,...

Since the unconscious mind manages your memories,...

Your unconscious mind is always alert.

Your unconscious mind immediately picks up your intent...

This state occurs when your unconscious mind is more active than normal,...

...your unconscious mind can directly communicate with the hypnotist.

If the hypnotist suggests things that the unconscious mind finds acceptable,

Jim, there's a lot of unconscious stuff going on there. Is there a difference between unconscious and subconscious in this scenario? Or is it just a difference in word choice?

If there is a difference, I'd like to hear about it from yourself or others. I've always been a fan of how the mind works and don't come across the terminology of unconscious in this field as I do in boxing and the UFC. LOL!

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Memetics 11 years ago

The unconscious mind exists for one purpose: To pass on your DNA.

You, and everything about you are a survival unit for your genes.

The prime directives of the unconscious are the avoidance of danger, the opportunity of having sex, and the protection of your genes being carried in other people; children, siblings, extended family etc.

The conscious evolved as an adaptive tool to deal with new situations to which the unconscious had no pre-wired heuristics to deal with: Emotional leverage wasn't enough.

When you make a decision, the unconscious mind takes the criteria and attaches an emotional value/salience to them and "weights" them independently and passes them to the conscious mind. Some scientists think that the conscious doesn't make any decisions at all and justs post hoc rationalises the outcome: scary stuff.

Hypnosis activates an unconscious response (pre-wired heuristic) and sends information directly to the unconscious (which is in charge at this time) and the unconscious acts upon it without the critical factor analysing things.

If you want to change something about yourself or others then the best way is through emotion. It's the unconsciousness' source code.
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jimbeau 11 years ago

I really hope you are not actually the very last warrior - because we need more, lol!

More seriously, to better explain, I received very extensive training in the areas of Neuro Linguistic Programming (NLP), Time Line Therapy (TLT) and Hypnosis about a year ago.

The developers of these disciplines decided perhaps as much as 30 years ago to use the term unconscious rather than subconscious, really to refer to the same part of any human being. However, the prefix "sub" suggests lesser, or subservient, or any one of a number of similar meanings.

Because the conscious mind is the home of the "critical faculty", which is the judging part of the larger complete human mind, using "sub" would allow the conscious mind to assume, or perhaps infer that the unconscious mind is somehow inferior or lesser.

The physical home of the unconscious mind is in the right hemisphere of the brain and the physical home of the conscious mind is in the left hemisphere. There are massive connections between the two hemispheres (in women these are more extensive than in men, partly explaining why men are generally more "left-brained" than women).

If you look at any physiology books you will find that the two hemispheres are very similar in shape, but they are actually quite different in the various lobes they have. These relate to the very different functions of these two hemispheres. The right hemisphere is actually a bit larger.

The general functioning of the left brain is linear/sequential, while the right brain is intuitive and non-linear in its functioning. The greater the rapport (a.k.a. the extent of the positive relationship and trust) between these two brains, the better chance that your conscious mind can ask its unconscious partner to provide intuitive and "non-logical" solutions to complex problems.

I'd be glad to say more, but I have to leave in a few minutes.

Having seen and created massive positive changes in myself and others using NLP, TLT and Hypnosis, I continue to become more passionate about using these tools to create a better life for myself and others...

For now, bye - Jim
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Mr Blip

9 years ago

Yes I do. Specifically the hypnosis of the Cosmic Master nullified pesky thoughts and made me reach an awakening. He formulated a program called Dream Matrix, it's quite sagacious.

Gives you a lift to an echelon of supreme cognizance. I use it everytime I catch a nap and the results are colossal.

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art72

9 years ago

While I have never physically been to a hypnotist or therapist - I do regularly meditate in a state of deeper awareness. My wife wants me to go see a hypnotist to try and determine; where some of the information I have retrieved or received in this state transpires from?

I feel it is a very "touchy" subject matter, and something I rarely ever share publicly, as at times, I've stopped practicing the self-taught methods I use, as they often behoove me, or leave me "not wanting to return" for lack of a better word.

Since I began meditating (as I call it) my knowledge seems to be increasing 10-fold, while my sufferings (or empathy) actually pains me to observe mankind from a higher (non-bias) perspective... almost from a selfless position of observation.

My wife of 25 years has witnessed the changes in me since I began meditating (some good, some bad), as my desire for writing, philosophy, matters of various subjects I once held zero interest in, now overflow... yet I have absolutely no clue what to do with these experiences, and the growing knowledge I've attained.

My question to anyone who specializes in this field of study is;

"How do you determine the source from where this information comes?"

Perhaps, that is my greater fear, as often (as peaceful as I find this state of elation) I awaken as if having just been counseled or had information given to me that is not always received, delivered, or given with instruction on How to use this info?

The first time I experienced this was roughly 12 years ago, where I closed my eyes and was standing in a dark room, corrider, sky perhaps, and in front of me was a closed door, with illuminating light escaping from behind it, and a symbol glowing centered, around 2/3 up the door.

I later researched to find the symbol was that of the lower-case Roman numeral 'omega' which is also used to measure energy or ohms.

Truth is, I just started meditating again, and have a very difficult time discerning what or who or where I am when I am in that state. If anyone here can even remotely relate or has knowledge of what these "experiences" might represent, I'd love to know more.

Also, I fear going to a specialist in this area for 2 reasons;

1.) I am a bit skeptical to easily accept this is a proven science or the person is credible?

2.) I'm not sure what they may think, find, or describe this as being?

Definitely curious to know more, as I am fascinated by people like Edgar Casey (mystic), among other who seem to possess a gift, and learned how to use it.

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Mr Blip

9 years ago

Hey Art
You don't need the hypnotist to be credible, just needs to be incredible. He must speak directly to your soul. Must open portals to the uncrossed paths of the subconscious.

I regularly transport to other dimensions like a time-traveler. Reality is completely distorted. I interact with phantom beings and they pass intelligence to me.

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art72 9 years ago

After reading the above responses, I am having a difficult time discerning what the role of the hypnotist is, thus, I cannot dismiss or deny there is a science aback it. Heck the US government has been using mind control, remote viewing, and various hypnosis techniques for decades. As many copywriter's study and infuse their writings with NLP, and is sprinkled in and throughout the ads we read, see, and respond to.

What behooves me, is like Mr Blip's statement, whereby, I do feel to have crossed certain thresholds, other dimensions, meet with elders of a gentle race, and have even astral traveled (out-of-body) to return with actual real information, both accurate and true...though I never left the comfort of my home. Be it these are on rare occurrences I actually can foresee, predict, or accurately control the vision or the outcome with true clarity or understanding.

As far as hypnosis goes - seeing a hypnotherapist intrigues me to see what may be "unveiled"?

Maybe that triangular craft I saw lit up in the sky, which moved beyond the technology of the time had something to do with it. I don't know, as I was 12 or 13 when that happened. It certainly didn't appear to be from this earth, that's for damn sure. Add to that, several videos, documented sightings, and near exact photo's all over the internet now that everyone has a cell phone and camera....who knows, maybe we need to rethink what most preconceive God to be. (*Perhaps more creative than having just created us maybe?)

Honestly, I would like to have that event recalled if any specific time or event in my life, and yet I wouldn't desire become like that one lady (she was a psychologist, if I recall) who had visitations, her kids vanished, etc... she was train wreck afterwards.

I think the hard part would be "trusting" the person's credentials, as I cannot even begin to gauge my own experiences. Therefore, I wonder; would trying deep hypnosis do more damage than good?

Referencing (in this example) trying to access the"source" from which this information in meditation comes?

In the institutionalized academic sense, I had a child therapist all but tell my daughter to "fear" exploring her life (i.e. as in going outside, making new friends, staying in small tight circles of people, etc...) after she was maliciously violated. As I sat there listening to this "licensed" psychologist speak to my (then) 14 year old daughter, I almost wanted to punch the woman in the face... as she was "preaching; live in fear!"

Not because I am violent, or would ever do such a thing, but rather; she was so WRONG about her solution, I felt as though any reliance we place in someone else "playing with our mind" is a potentially dangerous experiment. (*Note: I am not condemning all shrinks, by any means here, just that particular experience left a huge stain on my dare I say; bias towards shrinks.)

So, as I continue to "escape" into that state of elation, I would like to be able to trust another to guide the flight, or perhaps conclude from where these "experiences" come from, for as of the now - I do not believe it is from my conscious mind, and even if it were some kind of "residues" in my subconscious mind, there seems to be "others" when I am there... (phantoms, aliens, elders, God, Gods, minions, hell, I don't know what they are... label em' how you deem fit... it's alien to me) but, I sincerely feel the experiences I've had imply they are not "of my own making" - and yet "they" seem trustworthy, highly intelligent, and in essence, very familiar, and non threatening.

Who knows, maybe I should not have taken all that LSD as a kid, but something else dwells within us, and I believe, if we are receptive to it... it can be bridged likened to a conduit that carries electricity or an energy source.

I mean, if we take two magnets, we cannot see their positive and negative forces, but clearly, they are there. I question, as we are in fact, energy - what is it that determines; whether we attract or repel specific people, place, or objects?

Obviously, it centers largely upon influences, impressions, fear, etc... false notions mostly.

Now, only if we (or even I) could control it... for I do not believe we are the pilot in many of these experiences, rather - just passengers moving through time and space.

Which brings about another weird notion, in that place... time does not exist. One second there can be lifetimes here. Trust me, from my first experience 12 years ago, I am still trying to put it all on paper in a comprehensive expletive manner, and cannot.

I may try the hypnotherapist route, still undecided. I have nothing to hide, eve my worst of humiliates, fears, or even desires do not hold a candle to the "freedom" I feel when I go there, so worst case, maybe I was abducted by aliens or something... I don't pretend to know, I actually want to know!
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Mr Blip

9 years ago

Interesting testament Art.

To be receptive to the alternate realities of hypnosis, you have to deal with qualms and interact with the unknown more often than not. Be immersed religiously and you'll find yourself sitting pretty on the cockpit instead of the passenger's seat.

You have more control beyond any shadow of doubt. Just go deep, very deep and at the core you'll find unthinkable traits that remain to be activated. By ostracizing any reservations you have about your own or the unknown, opens up the gates to unimaginable self-actualization. Sometimes it's opening and closing doors in the mind, flipping switches so to speak. It seems as though you have already enough "data" to be the perfect candidate for unspeakable manifestos.

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RichBeck

9 years ago

I have not tried it yet....

Based on recommendations from a few friends, I plan on giving it a go....

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Mr Blip 9 years ago

Originally Posted by RichBeck

I have not tried it yet....

Based on recommendations from a few friends, I plan on giving it a go....

That's how I started, based on recommendations. I adore my buddies for that reason. He he.
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