Don't Argue, Agree, Ask Questions.

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Hi Warriors,

Have you ever gotten into an argument with someone? Answer is probably yes. Did the argument ever turn out good in your favor? Chances are ... probably not.

Humans are emotional and prideful creatures. No matter what logic another person might use to persuade you, we will always want to believe we are correct; our feelings or pride get hurt when we are not.

For example lets look at the two outcomes of winning an argument.

1.) You might convince the other person you are correct and they might decide to change their ways.

2.) Your ego is satisfied having won the argument -- or if you lost -- your pride/feelings will be hurt and you will resent the other person even if he/she was actually correct.

Try to put yourself in the other persons shoes. We don't like to admit we are wrong and if you lost you would not feel very good at the end of it, and will probably not want to talk to that person anymore.

I would get in arguments with my dad all the time. Every-time he would prove me right about whatever he was talking about, like why my business idea was bad or why I should do this or that, but all it did was make me resent talking to him or getting his opinion for fear of being rejected and talked down to (even if he was correct). Who wants to talk to that kind of person?

So if we win or lose the argument we still ultimately lose...

Yes that is what I'm saying. There is no benefit to arguing at all.

"But... how do we convince the other person then if we can't argue?"

The Answer: "You Don't. Only they can convince themselves."

People don't like to be sold to or convinced on a subject; they would much rather be the one to make that decision.

Here are some of the most important things we care about as humans.

1. Health and the preservation of life.
2. Food
3. Sleep
4. Money and the things money will buy
5. Life in the hereafter
6. Sexual gratification
7. The well-being of our children
8. A feeling of importance.

A feeling of importance is really key. We all want to feel important. Even if our job is the janitor we appreciate it when someone says our name and acknowledges our existence. This is far more important than even money and in my opinion is really undervalued.

This is why even if you win the argument it does not help because you damage the opponents sense of importance.

So instead of arguing since it does not get anywhere, I would suggest first say 'Yes' to whatever they are saying and show them appreciation for their side of the argument. This will make most people put their guard down and make them feel important. Then you could take a different approach.

First, never lie, but find something that you truly find interesting in the other persons argument. Then...

I would say something like, "I believe you are correct about so and so, (or that is a really interesting opinion). I'm usually wrong, in fact I am most of the time, but here is some facts I found that I would like your opinion on regarding the subject so you can be even more informed. I'm curious your opinion?"

Doing this shows that you really value their opinion (importance) and will make it easier to talk with them. Also you are stating that you are wrong most of the time making them more sympathetic to your facts to prove that you might be right.

During the conversation you never want to tell the other person they are wrong. This will just put them on the defensive. For all you know, you could be wrong as well.

By doing this you can layout your opinions with facts and let them decide for themselves if their position is still what they thought it was without them feeling hurt or attacked. Since ultimately only they can really decide anyways.

This will put you in good favor with the person and you may even find that you were wrong and learned something new from the person, and if they do like your facts you brought to their attention they will take it to heart and actually change without their feelings being hurt and they will respect your opinions more.

During the conversation avoid giving opinions and ask questions. There was a friend I talked to once, where I literally didn't talk at all during the conversation. All I did was respond back with questions and just listened and at the end of the conversation he thanked me for being a good conversationalist. A good conversationalist? I didn't say anything though?

Point is, by just listening and asking questions people will feel important and better connected to you. People don't want to hear what you have to say, they want to hear what they want to say. If you keep this in mind you will keep yourself out of trouble and gain the good will of the other person which is far more important than the argument itself.

Either way it's a lot more fun to do this then to argue and be on the defensive. This is a much more friendly approach in my opinion to trying to get your points across and make a difference. The best part is the person will respect you more as well since you respected their feelings.

I'm curious your experiences with arguments in the past and if you think my approach would help the next time.

... maybe you can even practice what I just preached on me if you have a differing opinion. I'm open to everything and learning new things to improve my social skills.

Best Regards,
Joe
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  • Profile picture of the author damiensuccess
    Thanks for posting this.
    It was very helpful for me. Lately, much disagreement has been going on between the spouse and I. A lot of it has started only recently and I could not explain why. Honestly, I personally know that she has gotten very defensive as of recent over silly things. Especially the dogs.

    Example: I noticed the "Insanity Beach Body" DvD set was on the floor a couple mornings ago, and the spouse was getting coffee. I picked it up noticing one of the DvD's missing. It was in the dog kennel chewed up. Picking it up I went to the kitchen (Still half asleep), showing her the chewed DvD.

    "How did the dog get that?" she asked

    Me "I'm not sure, I just found it in the kennel"

    Agitated she said "You shouldn't have left it down for the dog to get"

    Me "It was on the table last night, I am almost sure"

    She Asked again "Then how did he get it"

    Me "The dog is almost as tall as you.. If you can reach it, he can reach it!.. It wasn't my fault and it wasn't your fault,, It was the dog, so chill."

    Her Frustrated Response "I don't want to hear about it"

    Me "Hear about what?"

    Her "You complaining about the dog!"

    Me confused, slightly risen voice "Complaining about the dog? I'M NOT! I Only Said,,"

    Interrupting me mid sentence "STOP IT! Just STOP IT!"



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    This argument went on for about half hour, and when I sit down and think about what you have written. I see clearer to what I have been doing wrong. Instead of asking any questions at all, I immediately jumped to basic answers.

    It was me directing blame toward the dog that caused the argument.
    A slight change like the following, and the argument wouldn't have happend
    After showing her the DVD, and she asked how the dog got it. A better response would have been -- "My question is, why did he chew it up?,, Better yet, When?"

    Asking questions empowers the other party by inviting them into the debate instead of arguing against them.


    Again, this has been very helpful to me!
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    • Profile picture of the author Ryan Lindner
      Damien,

      I really like the example! I think it really represents many situations we're in.

      Before we know it we're in an argument about some silly thing, and soon emotions fly regarding something that was said during the argument ("It wasn't what you said, but [I]how[I] you said it!" Haha). A lot of times, the argument escalates over something said during the argument itself and not the original issue.

      The best we can do is be aware of what's going on. We understand that she is REACTING. Most don't know why they're doing it. YOU happened to be the outlet for that reaction. I agree with your stance. I mean, YOU didn't chew it, right?! Haha. If we are aware, and OPEN to being wrong, we won't get sucked into it.

      I agree, Joe. Good post. It really ends up being a battle about the egos. When one is wrong, the ego can't help but feel almost injured, as if something has been taken away from one's self-worth. We then have to "one-up" the other person to feel (unconsciously) superior, more than, better than, more right than, etc.

      When we are aware of it--which just means we catch ourselves before we too react to a reaction and get sucked in, we just pause and be mentally still. For me, I feel the reaction building in me as anger--almost a burning sensation in my belly. We allow the diminishment of the ego. We allow ourselves to be wrong. Ultimately we will feel stronger as a result.

      Basically, if we don't react, this will disarm the other person and the argument because there won't be anything for the ego to latch on to.

      I work as a motivation/wellness/behavior change coach for the government and have conducted around 2,000 sessions over the past 2 years. And I've decided that pretty much every person who comes down the pike complains about the same stuff for their entire lives. It's maddening. They don't realize it, because everyone things their problems are unique to them.

      It's neat because I get to look at patterns. For most, every day is a crisis of some sort, and little arguments usually consume their daily thought process. When one argument ends, another begins. We've got to break that cycle. Do you want to be right or do you want to be at peace?

      It can be difficult to "catch" yourself from reaction at first. It can be a spiritual experience to try. I just practice.

      Whenever you encounter a problem/issue/annoyance, ask yourself if you'll remember it a week from now. If the answer is no, let it go.

      Nice posts guys, thanks :-)



      Originally Posted by damiensuccess View Post

      Thanks for posting this.
      It was very helpful for me. Lately, much disagreement has been going on between the spouse and I. A lot of it has started only recently and I could not explain why. Honestly, I personally know that she has gotten very defensive as of recent over silly things. Especially the dogs.

      Example: I noticed the "Insanity Beach Body" DvD set was on the floor a couple mornings ago, and the spouse was getting coffee. I picked it up noticing one of the DvD's missing. It was in the dog kennel chewed up. Picking it up I went to the kitchen (Still half asleep), showing her the chewed DvD.

      "How did the dog get that?" she asked

      Me "I'm not sure, I just found it in the kennel"

      Agitated she said "You shouldn't have left it down for the dog to get"

      Me "It was on the table last night, I am almost sure"

      She Asked again "Then how did he get it"

      Me "The dog is almost as tall as you.. If you can reach it, he can reach it!.. It wasn't my fault and it wasn't your fault,, It was the dog, so chill."

      Her Frustrated Response "I don't want to hear about it"

      Me "Hear about what?"

      Her "You complaining about the dog!"

      Me confused, slightly risen voice "Complaining about the dog? I'M NOT! I Only Said,,"

      Interrupting me mid sentence "STOP IT! Just STOP IT!"



      =======================


      This argument went on for about half hour, and when I sit down and think about what you have written. I see clearer to what I have been doing wrong. Instead of asking any questions at all, I immediately jumped to basic answers.

      It was me directing blame toward the dog that caused the argument.
      A slight change like the following, and the argument wouldn't have happend
      After showing her the DVD, and she asked how the dog got it. A better response would have been -- "My question is, why did he chew it up?,, Better yet, When?"

      Asking questions empowers the other party by inviting them into the debate instead of arguing against them.


      Again, this has been very helpful to me!
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      • Profile picture of the author damiensuccess
        Originally Posted by Ryan Lindner View Post


        I work as a motivation/wellness/behavior change coach for the government and have conducted around 2,000 sessions over the past 2 years. And I've decided that pretty much every person who comes down the pike complains about the same stuff for their entire lives. It's maddening. They don't realize it, because everyone things their problems are unique to them.

        It's neat because I get to look at patterns. For most, every day is a crisis of some sort, and little arguments usually consume their daily thought process. When one argument ends, another begins. We've got to break that cycle. Do you want to be right or do you want to be at peace?
        That is awesome experience to have Ryan!
        It is true how you say everyone thinks there problems are unique.
        What they are blinded by is the event they went though, and overlook the "Why?" all they see is "What?"

        What I mean by this is - In an argument for example,,, No matter the argument, the angered emotions are caused by the same reasons. "Im Not Wrong" "What Don't You Understand about this"
        The frustration is Not because they didn't believe this before hand, or whether they believe it or not now. It is because the other party is not accepting your belief as an option.


        When we realize "Why" we get angry, and accept our wrongs, and make habit of this, we can accomplish any debate with ease.



        As a matter of fact, I shown this to my spouse today and she enjoyed the read. She didn't agree with something Joe had said and the conversation heated.. I felt an argument about to start, but I considered her thoughts on the subject, and instead of correcting her, I asked questions, and amazing. We had a smart debate again! I almost forgot the last time we had one!
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        • Profile picture of the author Ryan Lindner
          You know what though, you ought to give yourself a lot of credit because 99% won't think about it like that and have that open dialogue. Most will be totally unconscious to it, like (as an old mentor put it) "sleepwalkers."

          I remember a time not too long ago where I DIDN'T get it right. Too many times have I reacted and then my conversation blew up in my face. When I was calm, like Gus in the show Breaking Bad (haha), I usually disarm the other person. I feel so liberated after allowing myself the feel diminishment of being wrong. Even if I know I'm right, you can't ever convince someone they're wrong.

          It's like the example Tolle gives: I could argue all day that lightning indeed is seen before thunder is heard, and be right as rain. And someone could argue against me vehemently. I know I'm right; all one has to do is pay attention during a storm.

          But I am not really arguing anything because the truth is that lightning and thunder do not give a s**t what I or anyone else think about it. Only I care, because I am not arguing the truth, but am arguing MY position of the truth. I have to be right.

          But the truth needs no defense.

          I had an argument recently and I remember thinking afterwards about how in the world I got sucked into it. And I realized it was because I was attached to the outcome; I wanted to other person to realize I was right.

          You are right Damien, mentally I was saying "I'm right, what don't you understand about this?" Usually when I know I am right about something, and I swoop in with advice or my "great wisdom" (haha) it is almost NEVER well received and the person becomes defensive.

          It's true, you can't convince anyone of anything, least of all that you are right. Even if you are!


          Originally Posted by damiensuccess View Post

          That is awesome experience to have Ryan!
          It is true how you say everyone thinks there problems are unique.
          What they are blinded by is the event they went though, and overlook the "Why?" all they see is "What?"

          What I mean by this is - In an argument for example,,, No matter the argument, the angered emotions are caused by the same reasons. "Im Not Wrong" "What Don't You Understand about this"
          The frustration is Not because they didn't believe this before hand, or whether they believe it or not now. It is because the other party is not accepting your belief as an option.


          When we realize "Why" we get angry, and accept our wrongs, and make habit of this, we can accomplish any debate with ease.



          As a matter of fact, I shown this to my spouse today and she enjoyed the read. She didn't agree with something Joe had said and the conversation heated.. I felt an argument about to start, but I considered her thoughts on the subject, and instead of correcting her, I asked questions, and amazing. We had a smart debate again! I almost forgot the last time we had one!
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  • Profile picture of the author Dain Supero
    Unless it's a business negotiation, I just walk away.

    No time spent on arguing is the the best time spent on arguing. The way I see it you have two options: resist the situation or remove yourself from it. Almost always by removing yourself from a pointless argument you create time for doing more productive things. Like getting ahead and actually winning.

    But I do agree with some of the advice here. It is wise to sometimes disarm the other side by agreeing on something they say and then building a sense of compromise on that before asking for something on your end.
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  • Profile picture of the author Glenda from OZ
    too right Joe. I agree with you. No point arguing with aggressive attitude or aggressive people either.
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  • Profile picture of the author Trey Morgan
    Great advice. It is much more healthier to just agree to disagree or at least try to understand the other person's point of view, rather than wasting your valuable time trying to talk over each other, which usually leads nowhere.
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    • Profile picture of the author damiensuccess
      Originally Posted by tvon View Post

      Great advice. It is much more healthier to just agree to disagree or at least try to understand the other person's point of view, rather than wasting your valuable time trying to talk over each other, which usually leads nowhere.
      Another Note To Make.. (Wow, This is a good topic to discuss.)

      What is the point of convincing the other person that you are right?

      Some situations do in fact REQUIRE you to make sure someone understand the right thing, or the right process or answer. If not you could cause a big problem for someone or something.

      What about these scenarios where a more critical understanding is required?

      I believe after contemplating this topic, it would follow the same respectful procedure to have someone understand the importance of the answer. Even though they do not agree.

      Asking questions instead of correcting someone seem to be the "answer" again. What will happen if you don't accept this answer? What will happen to you if a superior connects something bad with your decision?

      Depending on scenario, one would have to respect authority if this was a playing factor. If one was to disagree with an authority figure, arguing will fail every time, because arguing is only words. With authority figures, prove them wrong by doing exactly what they say. When what they say fail, then you have proven yourself right!



      (Oh No!!!! I was planning to have this written before the alcohol kicked in. I am such a light weight because I never drink. Might have to stop typing before I make a fool of myself))
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      As a matter of fact, I shown this to my spouse today and she enjoyed the read. She didn't agree with something Joe had said and the conversation heated.. I felt an argument about to start, but I considered her thoughts on the subject, and instead of correcting her, I asked questions, and amazing. We had a smart debate again! I almost forgot the last time we had one!
      I'm glad I was able to help you and to see that its helping! Inspires me that I'm along the right track with this thinking. There is more to this 'argue' topic then I had time to write but I'll write some more to see what you think soon.

      too right Joe. I agree with you. No point arguing with aggressive attitude or aggressive people either.
      Thanks!

      Unless it's a business negotiation, I just walk away.
      I take the advice of those here seriously and I was just curious for my own-self improvement why do you think it will not work for business negotiations?

      But the truth needs no defense.
      Very true. I like this statement. If what you have to say is true, the other person will see that for themselves. No need to force it down someone. I think I'll make this my signature . Thanks for that.
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  • Profile picture of the author Copper11
    Quite a good advice on managing arguments, when you can’t simply go away.
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