THE LIMITLESS PILL! increased focus, productivity, energy

by Gavin Stephenson 28 replies
Hello everyone.

Has anyone ever tried any brain supplements or nootropics for increased focus, productivity, energy etc.

I've tried a few.

I was first introduced to brain supplements, from a status update from frank kern.

Since then i've tried various things to support peak performance, for business and life.

What about you? Do you take any BRAIN FOOD?
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  • Profile picture of the author Leo Krans
    Don't focus on brain food. Focus on health. This means eating healthy and minimize bad things, like alcohol. If you live healthy, your brain will be bright. And you need enough rest and sleep to recover. Do not force yourself over your limits with caffeine or medication. You need your rest. But don't forget too much sleep makes you dull and loss of concentration.

    I remember when I had early shifts. I had short nights, yawning all day, but I could read all day long.
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    • Profile picture of the author Gavin Stephenson
      Originally Posted by Leo Krans View Post

      Don't focus on brain food. Focus on health. This means eating healthy and minimize bad things, like alcohol. If you live healthy, your brain will be bright. And you need enough rest and sleep to recover. Do not force yourself over your limits with caffeine or medication. You need your rest. But don't forget too much sleep makes you dull and loss of concentration.

      I remember when I had early shifts. I had short nights, yawning all day, but I could read all day long.
      I am considered a health freak to be honest Leo.

      The title they give me is Vegan.

      I don't drink, smoke, drink caffeine or take medication.

      The supplement I currently take for brain health is completely natural and makes me feel frekin awesome.

      I was just wondering if anyone else takes brain supplements.
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      • Profile picture of the author damiensuccess
        Originally Posted by Gavin Stephenson View Post

        I am considered a health freak to be honest Leo.

        The title they give me is Vegan.

        I don't drink, smoke, drink caffeine or take medication.

        The supplement I currently take for brain health is completely natural and makes me feel frekin awesome.

        I was just wondering if anyone else takes brain supplements.
        I completely agree 100% Gavin. A pharmaceutical company mimic nature and produce something they can market. Key word is "Company". They have to make money and money is #1 priority as soon as a pill is approved.

        Nature has a cure for everything, and it is our job to find that cure. Leaving it up to a pharmaceutical company to compound elements to create similar effects is outrageous. It is so sad that the majority of our population will jump to a pill with artificial medicines as a first option.

        Water is a wonderful thing too you know!
        People don't realize the power of "Good" Water.. This can be difficult to find unless you have an expensive machine to process the water. Experiments have been shown to me that really opened my eyes to the world of medicine.

        Hope This Helps,
        Cheers!
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        • Profile picture of the author Gavin Stephenson
          Originally Posted by damiensuccess View Post

          Water is a wonderful thing too you know!
          People don't realize the power of "Good" Water.. This can be difficult to find unless you have an expensive machine to process the water. Experiments have been shown to me that really opened my eyes to the world of medicine.

          Hope This Helps,
          Cheers!
          Do you know what.

          So simple but so huge!

          Water! When I am totally hydrated and drink 2ltre or more per day I'd have to say I am a completely different person.

          I been contemplating for years if I should get one of those machines.

          I've heard mix views and they are pricey.

          Lemon water is great too right?

          I've also used alkalinity drops in the past. They are good too.
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          • Profile picture of the author damiensuccess
            Originally Posted by Gavin Stephenson View Post

            Water! When I am totally hydrated and drink 2ltre or more per day I'd have to say I am a completely different person.

            I been contemplating for years if I should get one of those machines.
            Mixed reviews indeed.. I have had people slam me for what I was saying about my experience with a company who make these machines.
            "Nonsense" they say
            "Money Gimmick"
            "Fake evidence"
            "No scientific Study"

            Mostly what I noticed is the negativity coming from those who have not experienced Alkaline water for themselves. Witnessing it myself is enough for me to believe that good things are going on with this water. I know basic science projects, and being able to perform and see results for myself was almost phenomenal.

            Scientific Study - Litmus paper and fluids. Tomato's. Ketchup stain.

            Evidence - After machine separated acidic water and leaving Alkaline water flowing from a separate hose. Tested both with Litmus Paper and fluid to back it up. Placed tomato in Acidic water and left for 10 minutes. Used alkaline water to clean ketchup stain and failed. Used Acidic Water and cleaned with ease. After 10 minutes Yellow substance separated from the tomato. After cleaning it off and tasting it, it had a sweeter taste then the others.

            Money Gimmick - Everything is a money gimmick and this machine is made by a variety of companies. Some in which offer a MLM style marketing scheme. These schemes often increase the cost of products, but if your not into this, cheaper options are available. "As Long As The Test Results Are The Same"

            Nonsense - Sure it is nonsense. Why? Because you have your mind set that way, and as long as it is, not even the most potent drugs will prevent you from getting ill.
            The power of your brain, along with a healthier choice in water is a sure way to improve your overall health.


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      • Profile picture of the author Eloquent
        Gavin, do you mind me asking what supplement you are taking that's making you feel so awesome?
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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    the medical care is awesome for traumatic event treatment.. but horrible if you are getting on long term medications

    if you get hit by a car or infected by some bacteria . meds and treatment fine.. you are not going to go natural if you break a bone .. you will go get it put in a cast and let the body stitch the bones together .

    when we lived all natural half of us didn't make it out of childhood .

    water is good and not good .. because to much water can leech nutrients out of the body .

    if you are not careful you can deplete minerals from the brain if you drink water improperly .

    now i drink coffee and water and understand the effects ..but i also probably have sleep apnea ..and most of the year the house is closed up and the heat is on ..so i end up dehydrating and partially starving my brain for oxygen as i sleep ..so most of the year i spend all day recovering from that ..it is only when i can get fresh air ..that i can get my brain functioning and not dehydrate as i sleep .

    supplementation may help ..but it is critical to understand how you are getting depleted or weather vital minerals are just not in the food you are eating . and how you are sleeping .

    op ,,you look like your body wants you to move around a lot .. do your supplements help you sit and relax . as you work and keep your mind on what you are doing
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    • Profile picture of the author damiensuccess
      Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

      you are not going to go natural if you break a bone .. you will go get it put in a cast and let the body stitch the bones together .
      Cocaine is a h**l of a drug......
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      Hahaha! Sorry, just watched a Rick James skit and it fit TOO well.. For the most part you are right. Antibiotics especially! A lot of research is done to create new antibiotics to help us fight infections. Infections which would have killed people at early ages in the early ages.
      Only for the fact that what is provided to hospitals is massed produced and made available to us, does it make pharmaceutical creations beneficial.

      Immediate effective response is important for the research they perform. Noticeable side affects are noted, but it is difficult to judge the long term effects of these medicines.

      ....

      One thing to note. Correct me if I am wrong.
      Most natural cures seem to flush threw the body rather quickly.

      When comparing natural substances to a chemical compound created by scientist I notice things like LSD and Psilocybin. LSD has a half life where as Psilocybin leaves rather quickly??

      Morphine, Oxycontin, ibuprofen, and Codeine among many other drugs linger in the body longer than something like Cocaine as I introduced this reply with.


      Certainly, I am no doctor, and those who can correct me should certainly do so. This information I am going by is research I have done on my own time in the past.

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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    working with someone who is on the marhing powder is hell..they will do the work of 5 people for a while then go hide in a fit of paranoia as they crash .

    natural or unnatural.. might be comfortable ..

    natural raspberry flavor might make you feel all goey and warm and happy the the flavor is natural ..of course when it is extracted from a beavers scent gland .

    every effect of anything you put in your body is a side effect ..and if you put a natural substance in that is way out of balance with the levels you get from nature . the effects can get bad quick.

    a glass or two of wine consumed at night with an evening meal can have positive daily and long term effects...more than that and the effects over a long time can be real bad .

    for people from Europe..drinking fermented beverages was better than water because water was boiled to free of toxins in the beer and grain was a lot healthier than it was today so it was a not bad.

    anyway.

    you can't get the white powder without a fair amount of processing and the perty plants you can grind up and smoke where breed to have far more effect than in nature ..so they are just as un natural .

    pretty much everything we eat we grow in the ground is from plants that man has breed for generations to have more of what we want than nature intended .

    so the thing about anything that goes into your body it to be aware of the effects today over the course of week and the potential long term effects .
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  • Profile picture of the author Dain Supero
    Originally Posted by Gavin Stephenson View Post

    Hello everyone.

    Has anyone ever tried any brain supplements or nootropics for increased focus, productivity, energy etc.

    I've tried a few.

    I was first introduced to brain supplements, from a status update from frank kern.

    Since then i've tried various things to support peak performance, for business and life.

    What about you? Do you take any BRAIN FOOD?
    Certain foods are quite brain friendly, superfoods in general like black maca, certain ginsengs, omegas from wild fish (find a wild supplement since you're vegan), tigernuts, and then on the extremely expensive end we have certain algae.

    If you eat an organic diet that covers all bases, which everyone should be doing anyway, then there is no need for supplements. The human brain works optimally when it works in its natural-most state, which happens when a diet is organic, 55-60% or more plant based, and superfood friendly.

    Supplements merely try to mimic this state and never, in my opinion, come close. Unless of course the supplement is a wild and pure organic extract of said foods for convenience and accesibility.

    If you're health conscious, which I assume you are since you follow a vegan lifestyle, check out some articles I have written on my holistic advice blog (link in profile). I have everything from fitness to self-image to motivation covered there, so browse through articles under nutrition for relevant information that might just help you.

    Unrelated, but great job on all your helpful posts here. Good to see people heading for the top in their respective fields.
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    • Profile picture of the author Gavin Stephenson
      Originally Posted by Dain Supero View Post

      Certain foods are quite brain friendly, superfoods in general like black maca, certain ginsengs, omegas from wild fish (find a wild supplement since you're vegan), tigernuts, and then on the extremely expensive end we have certain algae.

      If you eat an organic diet that covers all bases, which everyone should be doing anyway, then there is no need for supplements. The human brain works optimally when it works in its natural-most state, which happens when a diet is organic, 55-60% or more plant based, and superfood friendly.

      Supplements merely try to mimic this state and never, in my opinion, come close. Unless of course the supplement is a wild and pure organic extract of said foods for convenience and accesibility.

      If you're health conscious, which I assume you are since you follow a vegan lifestyle, check out some articles I have written on my holistic advice blog (link in profile). I have everything from fitness to self-image to motivation covered there, so browse through articles under nutrition for relevant information that might just help you.

      Unrelated, but great job on all your helpful posts here. Good to see people heading for the top in their respective fields.

      Nice website dude.

      I've never tried black maca. I'll take a look into that.

      Have you heard?

      That every star sign has a specific area of weakness.

      I believe this to be true from interactions with other people

      Anyhow, with Aries, it's head (Ram). My star sign is Aries.

      Where as a virgo for example is stomach.

      So they say I am ADD and Dyslexic - but through changing my belief system and taking supplements I am more effective at reading, writing, concentration.

      Diet has been a big contributor to my brain health and function too.

      For example: Eliminating gluten out of my diet. This is massive!

      Anyone with any brain condition. Do some research on gluten and eliminate it for 21 days and watch the difference.

      I went even more extreme and removed onion, garlic from my diet because they are known to have an effect on the brain if consumed consistently.

      Though, I have shifted my diet, take supplements and have worked on my beliefs... there is still a side of me that feels my brain isn't getting enough food. Be it oxgyen, vitiman bs, water, omgeas and even meditation etc.

      I am not sure if it's my eagerness to expand or grow or I may be just holding onto old patterns.

      I use to be brain dead but now I am more alive. Maybe it is just my beliefs of the Aries and i need to let go LOL.

      Emmm something to test!
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      • Profile picture of the author Dain Supero
        Originally Posted by Gavin Stephenson View Post

        Nice website dude.

        I've never tried black maca. I'll take a look into that.

        Have you heard?

        That every star sign has a specific area of weakness.

        I believe this to be true from interactions with other people

        Anyhow, with Aries, it's head (Ram). My star sign is Aries.

        Where as a virgo for example is stomach.

        So they say I am ADD and Dyslexic - but through changing my belief system and taking supplements I am more effective at reading, writing, concentration.

        Diet has been a big contributor to my brain health and function too.

        For example: Eliminating gluten out of my diet. This is massive!

        Anyone with any brain condition. Do some research on gluten and eliminate it for 21 days and watch the difference.

        I went even more extreme and removed onion, garlic from my diet because they are known to have an effect on the brain if consumed consistently.

        Though, I have shifted my diet, take supplements and have worked on my beliefs... there is still a side of me that feels my brain isn't getting enough food. Be it oxgyen, vitiman bs, water, omgeas and even meditation etc.

        I am not sure if it's my eagerness to expand or grow or I may be just holding onto old patterns.

        I use to be brain dead but now I am more alive. Maybe it is just my beliefs of the Aries and i need to let go LOL.

        Emmm something to test!
        Black maca is best for male fertility, memory and learning, yellow and red maca being the other and more commonly available kind. You, being interested in staying ahead of the curve from what I can see, will definitely benefit from black maca.

        I include it in a vegan superfood based snoothie each morning after fasting and meditating. It's all quite experimental at this stage but the eventual plan is to make THE morning smoothie for sensory and neural optimization. So brain work and motor performance, mental and physical.

        If you are interested in trying it feel free to PM me and I will send you the current iteration of the recipe along with my thoughts and recommendations.

        Oh and as of tomorrow I am also switching to a vegan plant-based diet, which for me might be a bit difficult considering the intensity of daily training and the fact that I intake 200-250g protein from animals each day. But my research and overwhelming research states that plant-based diets are the future. What sort of a pioneer would I be if I didn't dive head first into engineering the perfect plant based diet for extreme and peak physical performance?
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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    Don,

    i like your post .. but the way Gavin said it .. they call him vegan..

    he may have the lifestyle but it seems he doesn't want to describe himself as a vegan ..


    my view is tainted though because i believe from the vegans i have met ..to be vegan you have to be angry at those who cook food and eat meat ..

    i am shifting away from eating meat .. or eating smaller amounts the personal ethics is pushing me too where unless i can kill it and butcher it ..i shouldn't eat is .

    when i get where i wanna be i will be growing my own fish and keeping chickens for eggs ..

    eggs are a superfood even the crap ones that are mas produced ..but if you have your own chickens ..and you feed them craps you don't eat ..the eggs are far better .

    something that has been bothering me about meat the last few years ..is when i drop raw meat in front of the cat..it gives that ..what are you trying to feed me look ..

    honey is the only food that doesn't spoil .

    get a worm bin .. if the worms don't eat it ..you shouldn't either
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    • Profile picture of the author Gavin Stephenson
      Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

      Don,

      i like your post .. but the way Gavin said it .. they call him vegan..

      he may have the lifestyle but it seems he doesn't want to describe himself as a vegan ..

      my view is tainted though because i believe from the vegans i have met ..to be vegan you have to be angry at those who cook food and eat meat ..
      Oh gosh I did a baddy LOL

      Odahh - I think you misunderstood what I meant. Let me elaborate:

      I couldn't care less what other people eat. In-fact I despise when other people impress their view of the world onto others.

      I love all people, despite your faith, color or what you eat.

      I just tend not to put Labels on myself. Labels create separation, which I do not want to be apart of.

      This is the source to a disenfranchised world.


      Labels/ID's is the reason why a lot VEGAN's dislike people who eat meat. They have categories themselves and have created a religion for themselves.

      We are all one

      I don't identify myself with things outside of me.

      - I don't consider myself "black" I am human, with a soul. It's just my currently level of awareness thinking. Whereas the next dude, the term black could mean a lot of negative things. (we all know what I am on about)

      Whatever other people do is their choice and me fighting the world only creates more fight. I am the total opposite of that. I promise :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    Oh Gavin,

    totally understood you .. you don't need or abide by the labels as much of what has worked for you may not work for others . when you put yourself in a vegan, vegatarian or paleo description ,,

    as i pointed out they say, you don't describe yourself that way .

    my view is we should build our diets on a basis of personal performance rather than a dietary dogma ..

    i personally have an intolerance to dead and nutritional depleted foods lol ..and even organic food tends to be depleted ..

    as far as wheat gluten ..the problem comes from the wheat developed in the 60's that helped double the planets population instead of seeing large populations starve .

    because of the rate it is grown ..harvested.. processed..it lost a lot of the goodness nature added with the extra time ..then when you get into mass produced bread .. the sugar used is high fruictose corn syrop .. and there is a lot of yeast used ..then there are all the other additives ..

    our civilizations got started to grow grains to bake bread and brew beer ..and there was a lot of work to produce those grains .. in the process of over producing them we have taken out what made them so healthy and valuable to people for 7000-10000 years

    is it the guten or is it something that comes with the gluten
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  • Profile picture of the author clpride
    I've actually experimented with a lot of off the shelf supplements (B vits, vinpoticin, etc.), giving them a fair month trial and have found little to no effect. I believe any good effect from these would have to be placebo. These things are just not potent enough to have any effect or most of it gets filtered out of our body if it has enough of it already. The best thing I've done to improve my mental clarity is going to sleep at a decent hour every night and waking up naturally (NO alarms!). Additionally, exercise boosts my sense of well-being for some reason.
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    beer seems to work well for me
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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    "Oh and as of tomorrow I am also switching to a vegan plant-based diet, which for me might be a bit difficult considering the intensity of daily training and the fact that I intake 200-250g protein from animals each day. But my research and overwhelming research states that plant-based diets are the future. What sort of a pioneer would I be if I didn't dive head first into engineering the perfect plant based diet for extreme and peak physical performance?"

    if i was to go off eating meat and i am already cutting back ..but i don't think i would ever get away from eggs ..i would get myself a great grain grinder ..and grind emmer or spelt.. before using the flour . and keep a sourdough mother going . enner and spelt are not as good for bread..but many verities have more nutrients than normal wheat.. and grinding the wheat before use retains most of the good stuff .

    what i already do for a great non animal source of protein..is mushrooms ..and if you are really into it you can cultivate your own mushrooms for the best source .

    disclaimer ..i do plan on learning to cultivate and grow oyster mushrooms as a business ..

    the other source for protein as i still haven't become a fan of chia .. is flax seed .. best is to grind the whole seed before use . but it does have an effect on estrogen in the body.

    personally i notice a difference when i add flax to food ..didn't feel anything with the chia
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Tyler
    Try some amphetamines with your coffee. They do a pretty darn good job. In all sincere respect, it was the men on speed that built the planes and computers of today's age.
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      Originally Posted by Mike Tyler View Post

      Try some amphetamines with your coffee. They do a pretty darn good job. In all sincere respect, it was the men on speed that built the planes and computers of today's age.
      You have reality confused with the movie Limitless and also those inventors confused with bankers and lawyers and junkies. Check your facts, sir.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Tyler
    The pill in Limitless was called NZT. You should read the book, sir.

    Brain food: Piracetam
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  • Profile picture of the author Dain Supero
    Odahh, I'm getting myself a great recipe book instead.

    Not entirely sure how long it will take me to transition to full vegan but i'll do it phase by phase just to reduce the shock factor.
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    Never tried these pills.. They are not available where i live. But i heard good things about them. Whether placebo or not..

    Next time i go overseas will most probably try.

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  • Profile picture of the author Dain Supero
    Piracetam works if you're old. Does nothing for healthy people.

    Pharmaceuticals will always be inferior to natural methods. A pharmaceutical by definition disturbs homeostasis and equilibrium. That's a recipe for two things: dependence and failure.

    To each his own though. Some feel like they need pills to feel smart.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Tyler
    Why vegan? Our brains were built on monkeys high on mushrooms discovering how to fish. There is an entire theory of evolution that opposes with vegan. Where is the Omega 3? Exactly. Isn't much for peak brain performance on a diet lacking fat, vitamin d and taurine. Anyway, my point is do what works for you - drugs, supplements or health idelogies - as long shit get's done, it's all good master jedi.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dain Supero
    While I question your account of evolution I must applaud your sense of vision and enthusiasm. As is the Jedi way, I seek no quarrel. In fact I agree with you: to each his own and may we all have freedom to live as we want.

    To answer your question, inchi seeds have 17x as much omega 3 as wild salmon. The vegan diet has everything covered. You just have to learn what to mix with what. It can be done though. The health benefits are immense: increased energy, elevated mood, no depression, no anxiety, less fatigue, mental clarity, stronger immune system, whiter than white eyes, clear skin. The list goes on. Not to mention a plant based diet prevents and even reverses heart disease, obesity, age related degeneration, cancer, to name a few. Pharmaceuticals don't even come close. I speak from experience, from both sides of the fence.

    Good day, sir.
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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    humans ..evolved in the tropics and yes fish may have been part of the diet after the invention of fire and the human brain developed ..but ig you look at traditional cultures where you can still find them there animals where beasts of burden ..or they produced milk or wool ..without refrigeration ..or a way to transport meat..the effort to raise animals for meat was very small scale and meat played a small part in the diet ..

    because you grew it you fed it you took care of it .. you got use out of every bit when you slaughtered it .

    there is a case for meat being part of the human diet ..but no where near as much as is in the modern western diet ..and the system we had that made it so cheep is breaking down and driving meat prices higher . while delivering lower quality meats .


    most meat and dairy .. is a derivative of corn and missing most of it food value
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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    red meat was not a common part of the western diet untill after ww1 and ww2 ..as red meat helps men to grow larger and be much more aggressive ..and much easier to turn a lot of them into soldiers in a small amount of time
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