I discovered the "Secret" to $750/mo from any Motel!

by midasman09 Banned
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Howdy....I discovered a (excuse my shouting) STUPENDOUSly EASY WAY TO MAKE $750/MO (and more) FROM ANY MOTEL!....you choose!
(You want $7.500 a Month? Just apply the folowwing to 10 local Motels!)

Ok....check out some of my previous posts....you will see that I am a DOER!...and not a BS'er.

I get an idea and....I put together a Mock-Up and GO OUT AND SELL IT!

Thankfully...over the years.....most of my ideas have worked.

However....my latest discovery....just BLEW MY MIND!....and is probably one of the Best...if not THE Best I've ever come up with.....and I'd like to share it with some of you folks interested in "Mobile" Marketing (Setting up Mobile Websites for businesses)

OK....here's the scene; TOURISTS check into local Motels every day;
1) They are "Hungry" (most do NOT bring Food with them)
2) They have MONEY to spend on Food
3) They have a Smart Phone that can Scan QR Codes

So....what NICHE Market of businesses do YOU think....would be interested in a Program that will cause those;
....Hungry Tourists checking into local motels...with MONEy and Mobile Phones.....?

OK...I'll tell ya; LOCAL RESTAURANTS NEAR THOSE MOTELS!

So....due to my experience with motels over the years....I know that each ONE....has a "Preferred List of Restaurants" Restaurants they KNOW will give their Guests a "Good Meal" at a "Good Price" in a "Clean Environment!"

So....here's what I proposed to a local Motel owner (80rms): I would set up a "Mobile Guest Directory" for THEIR motel....where I'd have 5 or 6 restaurants THEY LIKE.....2 or 3 Gift Shops....maybe a Realtor.

However....if the motel only gives me FIVE Restaurants they "recommend", I can start with those.

So....here's what I do; Create a "Mobile Directory" (using Quentin's Script and Program)....for THAT Motel....ONLY!

So....using SUB-DOmains....(http:motel1.mobidirectory.com)....I create a "Mobile Directory" with businesses the Motel recommends....PLUS a few more. (Where To Eat....Where To Shop...etc)

However.....in the beginning....just make a Directory with the 5 or 6 restaurants the Motel recommends.

Now....I place a Sign at the front desk (with a QR Code that Guests can scan in....to have the "Directory" come up on the Cell)

So....when I have this Directory set up with the QR Code at the front desk, I then go see the restaurants the Motel recommends. I tell the owners of these Restaurants that....the Motel ALREADY recommends your restaurant....HOWEVER....I have a way for your restaurant to receive FIVE to TEN TIMES the Traffic from the motel.

I then show the "Sign" that will be at the front desk (with the QR Code that Guests can scan in to see the restaurant's "Mobile Site" (including a "Tap To Call" button and a MAP)

Now....I tell these 5 or 6 restaurant owners that they can stay with getting referred by this motel....OR....they can join my Mobile program where they could get 5 to 10 times the business.....for $150/mo.

So....I know most of you folks reading this...do not have a Clue as to what I'm talking about here. However....the few that do....can take the above info and...run with it!....as I intend to do. Setting up a Mobile Site Directory for EACH Motel I choose to work with...who has a List of their Favorite Restaurants.

So....I'm looking at making a "Mobile Directory" for each Motel.....which will give me their "List" of recommended eating places.....where I will go visit these Recommended Eating Places....telling each one that "The Motel Suggested that I contact YOU first....to be IN this program! Here's what it is and how you can participate to FILL Your Seats!"

Thus...what began for me, was a "Mobile Site Directory" for a Town....has turned into a "Mobile Site Directory" for A....Motel. And....if any restaurant (or other biz) would like to be in the "Directory" for any additional Motel/s.....they can be included...for extra bux.

So....again...for you folks who have an inkling as to what I'm talking about, HAVE FUN and FORGE AHEAD with a "Gold Mine Idea"!

Don Alm...sharing his "Inside" discoveries
#$750 or mo #discovered #motel #secret
  • Profile picture of the author mrcouchpotato
    Hi Don,

    I love the idea. However, most motels/hotels I've stayed at usually recommend big company restaurants like Outback Steakhouse, TGI Fridays, etc.

    Can local managers of these types of restaurants make "advertising" decisions?

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    • Profile picture of the author cottonking2000
      I live in Vegas. QR codes are becoming popular but most people forget search is driven by GPS or site location zip. A QR code is fine but alot of hotels are getting away from that and into the facebook hard where they can capture a customer. QR codes are hard to capture HOWEVER, a QR code of contest or coupon might do a better job. But you look so silly scanning. Now for instance....remember this..... Same thing.....it was hot for awhile

      CueCat (2000)



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      • Profile picture of the author midasman09
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        Can local managers of these types of restaurants make "advertising" decisions?

        Some can. Those who must get permission from "Corporate", I pass on, however.....since "my" "mobile sites" are 1-pagers (logo - 1 Paragraph Article - Tap to Call & Map at bottom) each "site" takes just a few minutes and if the motel insists on using "Corporate" restaurants....I'll put in 2 at no charge.

        If motel gets "too demanding" I will pass and go to another motel. It is ME who is providing their Guests with a convenient & professional way of finding "Where To Eat" (also, Where To Shop, & Local Attractions plus Discount Coupons).....at NO charge to the motel.

        Don Alm
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        • Profile picture of the author Video Whiz
          I really like this idea... I think it is extremely creative and one that I think has great potential.

          I'm trying to think of approaching a restaurant with this idea and not sounding like I'm "holding them hostage". Are you showing their name on the mobile site first? If they don't want to join, but the hotel recommends them, do you still put them on the mobile directory?

          I think there are a lot of uses for this principle... just trying to figure out all of the details...
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          • Profile picture of the author midasman09
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            The Motel GM gives me 2 restaurants they REALLY WANT in the program. They're usually "Family Style" restaurants....so I put them in THAT Cuisine Category....which means ALL the other 14 Categories can have an Exclusive for their Category.

            Heck...just 10 restaurants per motel paying a regular monthly amount (automatically deducted from their Bank Accounts)....with nothing to do, on your part...other than to make sure the Front Desk Display remains intact.....makes for the "almost perfect" business.

            And....if a Motel wants more than 2 restaurants in the program....I may just choose NOT to let then have the program. There's LOTS of motels to choose from in each town.

            Don Alm
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            • Profile picture of the author 1callcloser
              Sounds like a great idea, wish you all the best.
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      • Profile picture of the author HypeText
        Originally Posted by cottonking2000 View Post

        I live in Vegas. QR codes are becoming popular but most people forget search is driven by GPS or site location zip. A QR code is fine but alot of hotels are getting away from that and into the facebook hard where they can capture a customer. QR codes are hard to capture HOWEVER, a QR code of contest or coupon might do a better job. But you look so silly scanning. Now for instance....remember this..... Same thing.....it was hot for awhile

        CueCat (2000)



        Who actually thought magazine readers would scan barcodes on advertising pages using a barcode reader attached to their PCs? Radio Shack even tried to give the CueCat away in a desperate attempt to get people to use them. It's no wonder the CueCat earned the dubious distinction of being one of PC Magazine's worst tech products of all time.




        I remember the CueCar! It actually came out in 1999

        Of course the biggest reason for it's failure was that it had to be connected to a PC to be used which severely impeded it's usefulness.

        It was also for scanning Bar Codes, not QR Codes.

        Back in 2000 smartphones were virtually non existant so this is a perfect example of a technology that was "ahead of it's time" and "over the heads" of most consumers.
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      • Profile picture of the author NewParadigm
        I figured they'd build the reader technology into regular mice, not some additional specialized device.


        Originally Posted by cottonking2000 View Post

        I live in Vegas. QR codes are becoming popular but most people forget search is driven by GPS or site location zip. A QR code is fine but alot of hotels are getting away from that and into the facebook hard where they can capture a customer. QR codes are hard to capture HOWEVER, a QR code of contest or coupon might do a better job. But you look so silly scanning. Now for instance....remember this..... Same thing.....it was hot for awhile

        CueCat (2000)



        Who actually thought magazine readers would scan barcodes on advertising pages using a barcode reader attached to their PCs? Radio Shack even tried to give the CueCat away in a desperate attempt to get people to use them. It's no wonder the CueCat earned the dubious distinction of being one of PC Magazine's worst tech products of all time.




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  • Profile picture of the author Centurian
    Oh midasman! You rock!

    Outstanding idea.

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  • Profile picture of the author electronik69
    Midasman are you a billionaire yet?

    I am still attempting to do your QR codes on Coffee Cups idea, and you have already come up with this.

    Nice!
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    • Profile picture of the author Mo Goulet
      Originally Posted by electronik69 View Post

      Midasman are you a billionaire yet?

      I am still attempting to do your QR codes on Coffee Cups idea, and you have already come up with this.

      Nice!
      I just gave a local tee shirt designer the idea to print tee shirts for teens with "Scan Me" printed with their contact and any other personal info they wish in a QR Code. They can do it as a patch also. Order online with your info and receive your custom QRCode within 24 hours ...just print it and have it converted to a patch to sew or iron on. You can even provide the patches and mail it to the customer.
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  • Profile picture of the author TycoonRob
    So what are the restaurants paying $150/mo for?

    Tell me if I have this right: so the motel is actually not paying anthing to you. But since their mobile directory is free to them they should have NO problem putting the sign/QR code on their front desk. Then when you get their list of 5-6 preferred restaurants, you go to the restaurant and tell them that for $150/mo you will be on the "preferred restaurant list" of the local motel and show up on the mobile site. If they don't buy - they don't show up on the mobile site.

    I like it!
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  • Profile picture of the author JToneyUK
    I like this idea however it seems from my very small experience of hotels, they tend to have leaflets for nearby businesses such as restaurants and pubs etc in and around the reception area. These, unlike QR codes and mobile websites are accessible to ALL of their guests, not just those with smartphones. Of course not EVERY hotel will have these fliers, but the QR code and mobile site is in essence just the same thing as fliers.

    Some hotel owners may just like the idea, I aint disregarding it completely. They may want to give people a better experience by their recomendations. But then, they may also want to charge the business owners an advertising fee?
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    • Profile picture of the author limecellular
      Originally Posted by JToneyUK View Post

      I like this idea however it seems from my very small experience of hotels, they tend to have leaflets for nearby businesses such as restaurants and pubs etc in and around the reception area. These, unlike QR codes and mobile websites are accessible to ALL of their guests, not just those with smartphones. Of course not EVERY hotel will have these fliers, but the QR code and mobile site is in essence just the same thing as fliers.
      People will find any excuse to use their phones. It's hard sometimes to market QR codes to businesses but it should be imperative that one way or another it is more environmentally friendly- you save paper! The biggest point to make with QR codes vs. print is the fact that there is a paradigm shift taking place that has long been in effect- the transition from analog to digital. Not to get all lofty, but part of pitching the mobile business is having a pretty convincing speech to hook the potential client to "get with the times".

      Also, you sidestep the "hostage taker" mindset when you wax philosophical about it. It's not "you have to have this," it's more "well this is the way things are going."
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      • Profile picture of the author JToneyUK
        Originally Posted by limecellular View Post

        Also, you sidestep the "hostage taker" mindset when you wax philosophical about it. It's not "you have to have this," it's more "well this is the way things are going."
        Like it, cheers!

        You do make good points there, it is massively down to the pitching without being too pushy.

        From a business owner point of view, I bet they will end up sick of web based services!! First they'll have had hundreds of calls from people offering to make them a fancy website at the turn of the century, for the last 5 or so years they'll have had other people calling to provide SEO services and get noticed on Google. The next wave is the going mobile call that they will have to become accustomed to.

        I guess it's like all technology, constantly moving and we've all gotta keep up with it!
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    • Profile picture of the author diva3106
      Originally Posted by JToneyUK View Post

      I like this idea however it seems from my very small experience of hotels, they tend to have leaflets for nearby businesses such as restaurants and pubs etc in and around the reception area. These, unlike QR codes and mobile websites are accessible to ALL of their guests, not just those with smartphones. Of course not EVERY hotel will have these fliers, but the QR code and mobile site is in essence just the same thing as fliers.

      Some hotel owners may just like the idea, I aint disregarding it completely. They may want to give people a better experience by their recomendations. But then, they may also want to charge the business owners an advertising fee?

      free take out menus for motel....with QR codes on them...?
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  • Profile picture of the author wakee456
    I think it is awesome posting for who have the motel business . Thanks for your outstanding ideas .
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  • Profile picture of the author kmalikis
    Great idea,

    Would you mind showing us 1 example of the mobile site you created for one motel?
    How many categories would you put in the mobile directory?
    1. restaurants ( 5 or so different restaurants)
    2. pizza delivery
    3. entertainment (various types )


    Do you have any suggestions on what could be done to motivate the motel owner/mgmt to put a QR code (maybe laminated) or in a table top plastic holder in each room? maybe by the telephone or something like that.

    Kam
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    • Profile picture of the author peter_act
      Originally Posted by kmalikis View Post

      Great idea,

      Would you mind showing us 1 example of the mobile site you created for one motel?

      Kam
      Sure, I don't mind showing mine Quality Hotel Dickson

      I haven't finished the whole directory site yet, as it's too hard making sites for restaurants that I haven't signed up yet, but the bare bones are there to give you some idea.
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    • Profile picture of the author kmalikis
      Sorry...this was the post i was looking for some insight from Don or any others reading this...(please & thank you)


      Originally Posted by kmalikis View Post

      Great idea,

      "
      Would you mind showing us 1 example of the mobile site you created for one motel?
      How many categories would you put in the mobile directory?
      1. restaurants ( 5 or so different restaurants)
      2. pizza delivery
      3. entertainment (various types )


      Do you have any suggestions on what could be done to motivate the motel owner/mgmt to put a QR code (maybe laminated) or in a table top plastic holder in each room? maybe by the telephone or something like that.
      "
      Kam
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  • Profile picture of the author deum
    well this QR could offer a link to recommended RESTAURANTS or nEW VENUES for any visitors.

    A great way to re reinforced the positive image of the motel.
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    • Profile picture of the author midasman09
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      Ok....again....I am NOT "selling" anything here! I'm simply offering "Ideas" so....I am NOT letting out my "inside info" as to WHY businesses are WILLING to pay me...handsomely....to participate in MY "Tourist-Oriented" Mobile Site program!

      Yes....I'm VERY familiar with ALL the "Stuff" (Flyers, Rack Cards etc) in the lobbies of most motels.

      So....as I usually do....I go INTO the "Battlefield" and SEE....first hand... WHAT is happening.

      As an example; Being in the "Advertising" business....I LOVE coming up with Marketing & Promotion Ideas that HELP businesses. SO...one day, I decided to go and SIT in the Lobbies of motels and see what happens.

      In the first lobby was the usual "Racks" of Cards and Flyers and Pamphlets lying on the tables. As I was sitting there, I noticed tourists coming in and registering. And...bcause this was a facility with THREE buildings, as each person registered....the Clerk showed them (on a laminated sheet) where there room was located.

      So...I got one of my HOT FLASHES! "Why don't I provide a "Directory" showing where the rooms are....and...why don't I include a "MAP" of the area....and....some Ads for local restaurants, gift shops, attractions...etc.

      So....I put together a "GUEST GUIDE"....a 11 x 17 sheet, printed on 60lb bond, folded in 3rds. The front panel had a "Room Locater"....the back panel had an "Area Map". Inside was a Town Map with ads around the edges.

      Now....you might think that only "Low Class" motels would use these.

      Au Contraire....I got the FINEST HOTELS/MOTELS in ASPEN, COLORADO to use my Guest Guides! A "promotion idea" I got from just sitting in 3 lobbies....making up a Sample....getting the Hotels/Motels to agree to use them...and....going out to businesses wanting to have "Tourists" SEE their business!

      Wow! Did I clean up! Every 6 mos I made a bundle!

      Thus....the SAME with my "Mobile Directory for Tourists"! There is ONE Way I "discovered" that WILL get Tourists checking into Hotels/Motels to;
      1) SEE how to use their Mobile Phones to....GUARANTEE my Advertisers Mobile Sites....WILL BE SEEN!
      2) Have Hotel/Motel owners/mgrs LOVE to help me

      Just take's a little thinking, researching.

      Don Alm....Thinker, Creator
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      • Profile picture of the author kmalikis
        Originally Posted by midasman09 View Post

        Ok....again....I am NOT "selling" anything here! I'm simply offering "Ideas" so....I am NOT letting out my "inside info" as to WHY businesses are WILLING to pay me...handsomely....to participate in MY "Tourist-Oriented" Mobile Site program!

        Yes....I'm VERY familiar with ALL the "Stuff" (Flyers, Rack Cards etc) in the lobbies of most motels.

        So....as I usually do....I go INTO the "Battlefield" and SEE....first hand... WHAT is happening.

        As an example; Being in the "Advertising" business....I LOVE coming up with Marketing & Promotion Ideas that HELP businesses. SO...one day, I decided to go and SIT in the Lobbies of motels and see what happens.

        In the first lobby was the usual "Racks" of Cards and Flyers and Pamphlets lying on the tables. As I was sitting there, I noticed tourists coming in and registering. And...bcause this was a facility with THREE buildings, as each person registered....the Clerk showed them (on a laminated sheet) where there room was located.

        So...I got one of my HOT FLASHES! "Why don't I provide a "Directory" showing where the rooms are....and...why don't I include a "MAP" of the area....and....some Ads for local restaurants, gift shops, attractions...etc.

        So....I put together a "GUEST GUIDE"....a 11 x 17 sheet, printed on 60lb bond, folded in 3rds. The front panel had a "Room Locater"....the back panel had an "Area Map". Inside was a Town Map with ads around the edges.

        Now....you might think that only "Low Class" motels would use these.

        Au Contraire....I got the FINEST HOTELS/MOTELS in ASPEN, COLORADO to use my Guest Guides! A "promotion idea" I got from just sitting in 3 lobbies....making up a Sample....getting the Hotels/Motels to agree to use them...and....going out to businesses wanting to have "Tourists" SEE their business!

        Wow! Did I clean up! Every 6 mos I made a bundle!

        Thus....the SAME with my "Mobile Directory for Tourists"! There is ONE Way I "discovered" that WILL get Tourists checking into Hotels/Motels to;
        1) SEE how to use their Mobile Phones to....GUARANTEE my Advertisers Mobile Sites....WILL BE SEEN!
        2) Have Hotel/Motel owners/mgrs LOVE to help me

        Just take's a little thinking, researching.

        Don Alm....Thinker, Creator

        Don, I got #1 in your reply above figured out but need
        Help with #2, how do you motivate hotel mgmt to make sure
        They display the QR code or URL at the front desk?
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        • Profile picture of the author midasman09
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          I'm working on a book as we speak (with Don's permission). I've edited all his posts for good grammar, spelling, translating Don's unique style - it'll be called "The Midas Touch" It's in my "to do" basket."

          Only one problemo with putting my posts into a "book";

          I do NOT "spill ALL the beans" in my posts! I always hold a "Key" ingredient or 2. So if anyone were to put my posts into a "book" the book buyers would NOT be getting the "whole enchilada".

          Don Alm....ben dere, done dat
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          • Profile picture of the author mak25
            Originally Posted by midasman09 View Post

            Only one problemo with putting my posts into a "book";

            I do NOT "spill ALL the beans" in my posts! I always hold a "Key" ingredient or 2. So if anyone were to put my posts into a "book" the book buyers would NOT be getting the "whole enchilada".

            Don Alm....ben dere, done dat
            So what I get from this is that your "book" much like your posts are really a waste of time.

            What good are your offerings if you leave out an essential ingredient?

            Just to brag and feed your ego?

            If you've "ben dere, done dat", then your posts should be complete and not leave the new and learning left holding the bag.

            That's neither helpful or professional.
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            • Profile picture of the author chemo38
              Originally Posted by mak25 View Post

              So what I get from this is that your "book" much like your posts are really a waste of time.

              What good are your offerings if you leave out an essential ingredient?

              Just to brag and feed your ego?

              If you've "ben dere, done dat", then your posts should be complete and not leave the new and learning left holding the bag.

              That's neither helpful or professional.
              I completely agree. Here is a novel idea; how about including EVERYTHING in ONE post? Or is it your desire that we figure out all the pieces to your puzzle?:confused:

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            • Profile picture of the author hayestrio
              Originally Posted by mak25 View Post

              So what I get from this is that your "book" much like your posts are really a waste of time.

              What good are your offerings if you leave out an essential ingredient?

              Just to brag and feed your ego?

              If you've "ben dere, done dat", then your posts should be complete and not leave the new and learning left holding the bag.

              That's neither helpful or professional.
              I am a newb here, but have been reading lots of posts, and I LOVE this site. However, I am really tired of your negativity on so many things. This was a great thread until you interjected your attack. Come on...chill out!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mobileico
    Love this idea and I wish you Godspeed on this, because even though I am too busy and partially too lazy to do this, there is someone out there who isn't. How about creating a simulator with all of those restaurants..like a mapping system, have a stamp made and then stamp a brochure and have it placed next to the one thing everyone in any hotel/motel looks at, the TV Remote. I think many people are just in a hurry and trying to get to their rooms. However, if you put it near the one place they go to in their room, they may be more inclined to order when they are relaxed. Just a thought.
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    • Profile picture of the author midasman09
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      Hey ThriftGirl....last year I discovered a similar product for restoring headlights that is just "rubbed on and rubbed off".

      Now....the way I think is, "How can I make money with this?" Not by selling it to Individuals but....as a Service to Car Lots!

      So...I took a bottle and some rags and went to a big Car Lot and told the owner (Used Car Lot Owners are ON the Lot and easy to find and talk to)...he has many Vehicles with "Bad-Looking" Headlights...which make them harder to sell.

      I told him that...he could get an EXTRA $500 PER VEHICLE with "Shiny-New" Headlights....and....at NO obligation...I'd like to show him what I can do.

      He agreed. So...I chose a 5 yr old Taurus. (Now watch how a "PRO-fessional Sales guy (ME) "closes the Deal!)

      I cleaned ONE headlight....showed the owner. (He could SEE the difference himself) I then told him I charge $35 for a set of 2 Headlights and if he wanted me to Re-Nu the other lamp...it'd cost him $35.

      He said, "Go For It!"

      So....that's how I got Car Lot clients. Because Car Lots are constantly getting vehicles...I made a "Route" where I'd stop by at the same time each week.

      My reason for doing this was to show a friend (who lost his job and about out of UNemployment)....how to earn money.

      He now has 32 Car Lots he visits every Mon thru Thurs (8 a day...4 days a week. He spend 3 Fri-Sat & Sun with his young family)

      Also....I found 2 other "Services" for Car Lots;
      1) Black Plastic Restoration - Door Handles, Rear View Mirrors and Bumpers get to looking "whitish" so....there's another chemical that will make that Black Plastic (or rubber) look like New!
      2) Odor Removal - MANY used vehicles SMELL! Either cig smoke or other stuff (like dead mice, etc) So...we place a can of "Odor Removal" on the floor...open the top and close the door. The chemical fills the interior with a FOG (Very Dramatic Demonstration for Car Lor Owners) Open the door after it dissipates and WHALA....NO ODOR!

      Again...."Ya Can't Sell A Yucky-Looking or SMELLY...vehicle!" Oh sure, they can be sold, but for far less than they should be!"

      When Car Lot Owners SEE the results from your "Test" ....they can see, with their own eyes....(they Glaze over with Dollar Signs)....how it is NOW possible to boost prices by at least $500!

      So...for his $80 to $100 "investment" in each vehicle....he can visualize FIVE TIMES ROI!

      Ca-Ching!

      Excuse me for getting off topic.

      Don Alm....
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      • Profile picture of the author midasman09
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        Back ON Topic;

        Making money with Hotels/Motels;

        Besides setting up a Front Desk Display....I place something IN the rooms so Rooms Guests (aka Tourists) CAN'T MISS SEEING MY QR CODE!

        This GUARANTEES that EVERY Room Guest will SEE my QR Codes and... hotel management LOVES me for providing this "Extra Service" for them. Makes them appear "More Professional" and "Concerned" about their Guests.

        Don Alm...innovator
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          Great Midasman09!, I see you read my post. I think that's a good idea. If you can work out a deal with those restaurants you may be able to incorporate some exclusive deals with the hotel and with coupons
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        • Profile picture of the author thriftgirl62
          Originally Posted by midasman09 View Post

          Back ON Topic;

          Making money with Hotels/Motels;

          Besides setting up a Front Desk Display....I place something IN the rooms so Rooms Guests (aka Tourists) CAN'T MISS SEEING MY QR CODE!

          This GUARANTEES that EVERY Room Guest will SEE my QR Codes and... hotel management LOVES me for providing this "Extra Service" for them. Makes them appear "More Professional" and "Concerned" about their Guests.

          Don Alm...innovator
          Hi,

          Didn't mean to go off topic with the headlight restoration but I knew you would respond and thanks for moving it.
          Now....the way I think is, "How can I make money with this?" Not by selling it to Individuals but....as a Service to Car Lots!
          I was thinking more along the lines of getting outrageous attention by getting noticed and more importantly, remembered. Instead of leaving a flyer, leave shiny headlights and your calling card with a number to call.

          If they need your services, they will call YOU instead of someone else. If they don't, they won't call anyone. Or, will they think you're crazy and hope you don't come back?

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          • Profile picture of the author esalmon
            I picked up Chad Wyatt QR code word press plug-in (QR Lead Machine) then got his sms text word press plug-in and I think you could easily combine sms text marketing into this idea with scan here for a list of local eats and get a discount on ... Not only would you get a fee for listing in the directory, you also could get a fee for the sms marketing.
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          • Profile picture of the author 360utah
            Originally Posted by thriftgirl62 View Post

            Hi,

            Didn't mean to go off topic with the headlight restoration but I knew you would respond and thanks for moving it.


            I was thinking more along the lines of getting outrageous attention by getting noticed and more importantly, remembered. Instead of leaving a flyer, leave shiny headlights and your calling card with a number to call.

            If they need your services, they will call YOU instead of someone else. If they don't, they won't call anyone. Or, will they think you're crazy and hope you don't come back?

            Mobile Simulator and here's a script to make your own mobile sites plus a QR Code Reader
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            Is the script to make a mobile site for one site or software to make as many as you want? Doesnt say on the website.
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        • Profile picture of the author webvidman
          Originally Posted by midasman09 View Post

          Back ON Topic;

          Making money with Hotels/Motels;

          Besides setting up a Front Desk Display....I place something IN the rooms so Rooms Guests (aka Tourists) CAN'T MISS SEEING MY QR CODE!

          This GUARANTEES that EVERY Room Guest will SEE my QR Codes and... hotel management LOVES me for providing this "Extra Service" for them. Makes them appear "More Professional" and "Concerned" about their Guests.

          Don Alm...innovator
          Midasman09, I believe you have a great idea. And getting your foot in the door of the local businesses can open up the opportunity to sell other mobile products. I'm thinking VIP coupons for Motel/Hotel visitors, not to mention some SEO services etc. Thanks for the great idea. I'm going out tomorrow. I will give it a try.
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          • Profile picture of the author HalfSwede
            Originally Posted by webvidman View Post

            I'm going out tomorrow. I will give it a try.
            Hey, Webvidman...Did you go out today? If so, how did it go? I'm heading out tomorrow to talk to...and hopefully sign up...some hotels.

            Cheers,
            HalfSwede
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  • Profile picture of the author AllyChurch
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    This is a great idea, it's just getting it past the front desk that could be an issue. Great to hear such innovative ideas! All the best.
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  • Profile picture of the author Phil_UK
    Originally Posted by midasman09 View Post

    So....here's what I do; Create a "Mobile Directory" (using Quentin's Script and Program)....for THAT Motel....ONLY!
    Hi

    Thanks for a very informative and detailed post, it's given me a lot to think about.

    Regarding 'using Quentins script and program', can you say if this is a software program to create the information from, for example yellow pages, or is it a written program that you are following.

    Regards
    Phil
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    • Profile picture of the author midasman09
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      "Quentin's Program" is a Script he created and some Tutorials on how to set up Mobile Sites.

      Search here for "Quentin Brown".

      Plus....his support is A-1.

      Don Alm
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    • Profile picture of the author JToneyUK
      Originally Posted by Phil_UK View Post

      Hi

      Thanks for a very informative and detailed post, it's given me a lot to think about.

      Regarding 'using Quentins script and program', can you say if this is a software program to create the information from, for example yellow pages, or is it a written program that you are following.

      Regards
      Phil
      Quentins "script" is in fact a webpage or two and its associated css file which together makes a "mobile friendly" website (.HTML & .CSS files). Meaning that the way the pages hav been made, they will adjust in size to fit a mobile phone screen.

      You can buy this template, which is what it really is, and you can then change the colours, images and text using a program like Dreamweaver to create a mobile site for your clients.
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      • Profile picture of the author bobludeman
        I posted this on another of Don's Motel threads. I hope it relevant for someone to benefit from here also.

        "A few points to the doubters.
        1. Businesses don't understand all about seo, etc etc. They understand advertising, discounts and travel/tourist dollars. Speak their language.
        2. QR codes I had a Realtor tell me her clients would never do that, they can't even text. How many people are buying an Iphone 4s right now that already have an iphone? How many people have a G-slate(me), Dell Streak or Android device. Most can and will scan with a proper call to action.
        3. Don't think they'll scan? Put a short url under the code. Trade the Motel some of the ad cost for placement in the guest book in the room. In the book in the room place a one sheeter with the QR + Url + some printed coupons in case they are traveling with a dumb phone. Cover all the bases, Dan Kennedy said strong call to action plus multiple ways to respond.
        4. If you can sell this will work. If you can't hire someone who can.

        Also an idea: Trade some of the ad cost with your favorite eatery for $10 or $20 gift certificates, not coupons. Then call some service guys/gals, tuneup, brake, tire, auto parts, detail shop, RV wash, massage, hairsalon, nail shop, shoe store, etc. My wife buys shoes in every town. I bought shoes in Odessa, Ukraine, go figure. Anyway call the owner/manager offer a free lunch, no strings. Use your gift certificates to pay. After eating and talking, show them the directory(on your G-Slate) with eateries, bars, nightclubs etc. Offer the rate. Tell them you will only take one Hair Salon exclusive. Make a friend, make a sale."
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  • Profile picture of the author PPCampaigns
    I've been looking into the idea of marketing a "virtual concierge". After reading the OP and all the comments, it looks like a great market to get into. Looks like I'm off to do some research! Thanks!
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    • Profile picture of the author midasman09
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      $2,400 today!

      I just got back from a visit to a town about 20 mi south of me. I went there this morn to look at a certain "Antique" my wifee heard was there in an Antique Shopps.

      As I was entering the town....I noticed a brand new 80 room motel. I thought; "Hey! The tourists registering here....have 3 things;
      1) NO food
      2) A smart phone
      3) Cash to buy a meal or have one DELIVERED to their room

      So....I went in and asked to see the GM. He came out and I told him I could provide a "service" to his Guests that would make them LOVE his new facility and provide MANY Referrals.

      He said; "Ok! You have my interest! WHATcha GOT!"

      So....I told him I could provide a way for his guests....most of whom are carrying a Smart Phone with them....to be able to....have a Pizza delivered to their rooms....just by using their phones.

      I gave him the details of how I could do this and....he said, "Let's DO it!"

      (It's FREE to him so...why not)

      I then went to the pizza shop down on Main St....told the owner I could bring him orders for 10 Pizzas a Day....900 Pizzas in the next 90 days....at $15.99 each or 900 x $16 = $14,400...from the new motel.

      I then explained HOW I'd do this and....my fee would only be $10 a room a month for the next 3 mos....80 x $10 = $800/mo x 3 = $2400 total.

      He pondered a minute....and I interjected with; "Hey! That's OK! I'll run over to the other pizza guy up the street!"

      Whammo! Bango!....when I closed my binder and started heading for the door....he responded with; "HOLD IT! I'll do it!"

      So....I don't know what you folks think...whether I just "blew some smoke" at you...or what! Actually...I don't care. I am STILL "passionate" about what I do....and I enjoy sharing my successes....and...sure....I've been doing THIS kinda stuff for years....walking in COLD TURKEY on a business owner and walking out with a Nice Check so...whether you can do something similar....I don't know.

      It's Up To You! I just show the "possibilities".

      Thanks for letting me share. I'm "calming down".

      Don Alm....STILL getting excited about "winning the battle for bux"!
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      • Profile picture of the author mrcouchpotato
        Originally Posted by midasman09 View Post

        I then went to the pizza shop down on Main St....told the owner I could bring him orders for 10 Pizzas a Day....900 Pizzas in the next 90 days....at $15.99 each or 900 x $16 = $14,400...from the new motel.
        Hi Don,

        That's awesome but I have a question about the above quote. Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but it sounds like you're guaranteeing this pizza guy that he'll get 10 pizza orders per day.

        Did you come up with that number based on experience? And what happens if he doesn't get at least 10 pizzas per day?

        Also, is this going to be the same as your mobile directory idea or are you creating the cards you're putting in the rooms just for this pizza shop?

        Thanks for your inspiring ideas.

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        • Profile picture of the author wiscrown
          Dude, you're insane AWESOME!

          Took me some time to wrap my head around the motel opp. I'm assuming you already know the averages on the pizza orders, easy to track non the less.

          The car lot biz opp is like off the chart awesome for anyone moping about or just worried sick being out of a job! Soo many can be helped with that idea. Thank you!

          You're offering HOPE for a better day and a beacon of LIGHT for any who cross your path! Though you may get weary at times, keep it up. Your reward is SURE though I'm certain you're not doing it just for the reward. It's a great secret.

          Well done, well done.


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      • Profile picture of the author esuresh
        Originally Posted by midasman09 View Post

        $2,400 today!

        I just got back from a visit to a town about 20 mi south of me. I went there this morn to look at a certain "Antique" my wifee heard was there in an Antique Shopps.

        As I was entering the town....I noticed a brand new 80 room motel. I thought; "Hey! The tourists registering here....have 3 things;
        1) NO food
        2) A smart phone
        3) Cash to buy a meal or have one DELIVERED to their room

        So....I went in and asked to see the GM. He came out and I told him I could provide a "service" to his Guests that would make them LOVE his new facility and provide MANY Referrals.

        He said; "Ok! You have my interest! WHATcha GOT!"

        So....I told him I could provide a way for his guests....most of whom are carrying a Smart Phone with them....to be able to....have a Pizza delivered to their rooms....just by using their phones.

        I gave him the details of how I could do this and....he said, "Let's DO it!"

        (It's FREE to him so...why not)

        I then went to the pizza shop down on Main St....told the owner I could bring him orders for 10 Pizzas a Day....900 Pizzas in the next 90 days....at $15.99 each or 900 x $16 = $14,400...from the new motel.

        I then explained HOW I'd do this and....my fee would only be $10 a room a month for the next 3 mos....80 x $10 = $800/mo x 3 = $2400 total.

        He pondered a minute....and I interjected with; "Hey! That's OK! I'll run over to the other pizza guy up the street!"

        Whammo! Bango!....when I closed my binder and started heading for the door....he responded with; "HOLD IT! I'll do it!"

        So....I don't know what you folks think...whether I just "blew some smoke" at you...or what! Actually...I don't care. I am STILL "passionate" about what I do....and I enjoy sharing my successes....and...sure....I've been doing THIS kinda stuff for years....walking in COLD TURKEY on a business owner and walking out with a Nice Check so...whether you can do something similar....I don't know.

        It's Up To You! I just show the "possibilities".

        Thanks for letting me share. I'm "calming down".

        Don Alm....STILL getting excited about "winning the battle for bux"!

        Wow. I enjoyed reading this stuff.
        midasman, you are really great.You really have great ideas and you know to write it with great humour. Congratulations Man.
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      • Profile picture of the author proteinman2222
        love it! How can you guarantee that many pizzas though?? If you didnt deliver that amount...what would happen??
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  • Profile picture of the author MdJones
    I love this idea, I am now brainstorming on how to do the same with other industries. The only thing you do differently then my approach is the price, I am charging a set up fee of $200 and a smaller monthly fee of $10-$20. This may now change.
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  • Profile picture of the author Austin357
    Great stuff Midasman! You always have your wheels spinning in the direction of innovation and profit$!!
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  • Profile picture of the author sbishop
    I am currently working with a Hotel to do a map with local ads also. There is money to be made out there
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  • Profile picture of the author kmalikis
    I've been reading some of the stuff Midasman09 comes up with and it freaking blows my mind!!!! MidasMan...if your reading this... Your awesome.
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  • Profile picture of the author 4webmaster
    I ask to restaurant owners near motels if they were interested but none did reply Yes! Most told me that they have their big road sign and it's enough other says they already have their flyers in motel rooms and front desk.
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  • Profile picture of the author MLEWISJRONE
    @midasman09 It's good to see that great minds think alike, lol. I thought of the same thing and have been putting together a presentation for it. Now that I know it is tested I'm going to make some major moves with this!
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  • Profile picture of the author TonyD
    I really can't get my head around this whole mobile directory thing. Every place i go and when i check into a hotel i just pull out my phone and click on the places icon and a list of nearby places come up in categories. I click on the restaurant category and up comes a list of restaurants sorted by nearest first, complete with reviews courtesy of google. I browse to one i like the look of and tap to call and reserve a table. Why would i want to take the extra steps of typing in a directory url?

    What can't i see that you all can?
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel LaRusso
      Originally Posted by TonyD View Post

      I really can't get my head around this whole mobile directory thing. Every place i go and when i check into a hotel i just pull out my phone and click on the places icon and a list of nearby places come up in categories. I click on the restaurant category and up comes a list of restaurants sorted by nearest first, complete with reviews courtesy of google. I browse to one i like the look of and tap to call and reserve a table. Why would i want to take the extra steps of typing in a directory url?

      What can't i see that you all can?
      I was thinking about this, along these same lines, and wanting a little feedback from Midasman.

      So, with this great idea, Midasman, what theme are you using to build these directories? Is it pretty much automated, as in setting up the restaurant? Would love to find this end out!

      I was thinking, if hotels start to dry up, go to ............. apartment complexes! Especially ones near a university, or in a hip area of town. New people move into the apartments from other areas, have access to the directory site - BOOM! More value you can add!!

      As far as the Google places thing, maybe you could make it even easier on yourself, and make up cards with a QR code pointing toward an existing directory or even Google places. You still provide the source of getting local information to new people, then you can go to those restaurants and businesses that are in the directory and Google places, and pitch them on a mobile website, sms, reputation management, etc. ESPECIALLY reputation management if Google places is opening up and a business has some negative reviews that need to be overcome.
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      • Profile picture of the author DougPage
        Originally Posted by Daniel LaRusso View Post

        I was thinking about this, along these same lines, and wanting a little feedback from Midasman.

        So, with this great idea, Midasman, what theme are you using to build these directories? Is it pretty much automated, as in setting up the restaurant? Would love to find this end out!

        I was thinking, if hotels start to dry up, go to ............. apartment complexes! Especially ones near a university, or in a hip area of town. New people move into the apartments from other areas, have access to the directory site - BOOM! More value you can add!!

        As far as the Google places thing, maybe you could make it even easier on yourself, and make up cards with a QR code pointing toward an existing directory or even Google places. You still provide the source of getting local information to new people, then you can go to those restaurants and businesses that are in the directory and Google places, and pitch them on a mobile website, sms, reputation management, etc. ESPECIALLY reputation management if Google places is opening up and a business has some negative reviews that need to be overcome.
        Going back to the first post, Don says he is using Quentin's script. So it is not automated but does not take much time to throw together a simple site. Quentin's script also resizes the images so that they fit all phones.
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    • Profile picture of the author DougPage
      Originally Posted by TonyD View Post

      I really can't get my head around this whole mobile directory thing. Every place i go and when i check into a hotel i just pull out my phone and click on the places icon and a list of nearby places come up in categories. I click on the restaurant category and up comes a list of restaurants sorted by nearest first, complete with reviews courtesy of google. I browse to one i like the look of and tap to call and reserve a table. Why would i want to take the extra steps of typing in a directory url?

      What can't i see that you all can?
      If you re-read Don's post you'll catch that he is creating a directory of the restaurants and stores that the hotel has "approved" for its clients. Your method is just a crap shoot as to whether the restaurant you pick is good or crummy. The ones that would be on the directory have all ready been checked out for customer approval. Hotels/Motels are VERY, VERY much into customer service. They don't want their clients to have a bad experience. This directory helps them toward that goal. Also, not many people know how to use all the functions on their phone. Most have no idea they can get a list of places from their phone. So this directory sell convenience to those people.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan Hower
      Originally Posted by TonyD View Post

      I really can't get my head around this whole mobile directory thing. Every place i go and when i check into a hotel i just pull out my phone and click on the places icon and a list of nearby places come up in categories. I click on the restaurant category and up comes a list of restaurants sorted by nearest first, complete with reviews courtesy of google. I browse to one i like the look of and tap to call and reserve a table. Why would i want to take the extra steps of typing in a directory url?

      What can't i see that you all can?
      Hi Tony, not sure what you mean.

      What is the places icon you click on to get that categories list.

      Do you have an app on your phone that does it?

      Thanks
      dtm
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      • Profile picture of the author Social Guy
        Originally Posted by TonyD View Post

        I really can't get my head around this whole mobile directory thing. Every place i go and when i check into a hotel i just pull out my phone and click on the places icon and a list of nearby places come up in categories. I click on the restaurant category and up comes a list of restaurants sorted by nearest first, complete with reviews courtesy of google. I browse to one i like the look of and tap to call and reserve a table. Why would i want to take the extra steps of typing in a directory url?

        What can't i see that you all can?
        Originally Posted by dtm View Post

        Hi Tony, not sure what you mean.

        What is the places icon you click on to get that categories list.

        Do you have an app on your phone that does it?

        Thanks
        dtm
        It's an Google app..

        The thing is this.. People have over 600.000 apps they can choose from. Every app hase to be lucky to get on the first two pages of an smartphone, otherwise it wil not be used much..

        A good directory with some good marketing infront of people (tourists, visiters, etc.) can make a big difference. People need some 'guidance' to a good place and often this can be done trough advertisements or... A local directory
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        • Profile picture of the author Dan Hower
          Originally Posted by Social Guy View Post

          It's an Google app..

          The thing is this.. People have over 600.000 apps they can choose from. Every app hase to be lucky to get on the first two pages of an smartphone, otherwise it wil not be used much..

          A good directory with some good marketing infront of people (tourists, visiters, etc.) can make a big difference. People need some 'guidance' to a good place and often this can be done trough advertisements or... A local directory
          Thanks. What you say in your second paragraph is exactly on which I am working but I need another few weeks to go live.

          I haven't found the Google app you mentioned. Would you mind telling me where I can find it?

          I would just be interested to see if they maybe do already what I have in mind, and if I should dump my project in the bin
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          • Profile picture of the author Social Guy
            Originally Posted by dtm View Post

            Thanks. What you say in your second paragraph is exactly on which I am working but I need another few weeks to go live.

            I haven't found the Google app you mentioned. Would you mind telling me where I can find it?

            I would just be interested to see if they maybe do already what I have in mind, and if I should dump my project in the bin
            Sure thing: App Store - Google+ Local
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  • Profile picture of the author PokerFace350
    Originally Posted by midasman09

    "Quentin's Program" is a Script he created and some Tutorials on how to set up Mobile Sites.

    Search here for "Quentin Brown".

    Plus....his support is A-1.

    Don Alm
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    • Profile picture of the author midasman09
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      This program involves you getting a Unique Domain and Hosting it on YOUR Host....however....many of the restaurants NOW have their own websites so....(in response to the poster above who said when he's in a town he finds restaurants by "Googling, rather than "Scanning a QR Code or typing in a URL he finds IN his Rented Room)....MOST travelers/tourists DON'T sit in the parking lot of their hotel/motel and "Search for a Place To Eat"!

      MOST travelers/tourists register...enter their room...set down their baggage....Go Potty...THEN....begin thinking about Where To Eat....AND...if they see Card that Says; "Scan This Code (or; type this URL) to find Where To Eat, Where To SHop, Find Local Attractions.

      What are MOST Traveler/Tourists gonna do?

      Also....as an UPsell....you can add a "Re-Direct Script" to the restaurant's WebSite.....for those people who DO...."Google their Mobile Device to find "Regular Websites" of restaurants, etc.

      Don Alm
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  • Profile picture of the author macker2298
    prett nice idea, i might try it our in the next 6 months ....might need to send in a sales guy to to this though
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  • Profile picture of the author nickhumph
    Don Alm!

    You need to create a blog! Please create a blog, you need to spread your valuable advice to as many people as possible Hell, create a book. I'll buy 10 copies!

    Question, why do you give so much away in return for.. well, nothing? No forum sig, etc
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    • Profile picture of the author peter_act
      Originally Posted by nickhumph View Post

      Don Alm!
      You need to create a blog! Please create a blog, you need to spread your valuable advice to as many people as possible Hell, create a book. I'll buy 10 copies!
      I'm working on a book as we speak (with Don's permission). I've edited all his posts for good grammar, spelling, translating Don's unique style - it'll be called "The Midas Touch" It's in my "to do" basket.

      Originally Posted by nickhumph View Post

      Don Alm!
      You need to create a blog! Please create a blog, you need to spread your valuable Never thought I'd see another Warrior from Canberra
      Not for much longer, Nick - these winters are too cold for me. I'm donning my maroon and heading off to the home of State of Origin
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    • Profile picture of the author sociallid
      I have been doing this since 2011 Midasman, Give me a call we can work together to take this global. I sent you a pm. I am already in over 500 hotels in 15 states.
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      • Profile picture of the author sociallid
        Guys, entire Warrior forum members. I think we can all work together in multiple cities with qr code placement in tourist areas. With one common website. I have been doing this very thing since 2011. I have been reading all of your post, and you all have touched on some successful ways but I feel that my company has put together the best and easiest way, I have messaged Midasman and he and I might can work together to get this going for everyone. We have traveled to trade shows and know hotel industry experts and how to get in the big name hotels and everything. We have put over 100k in developing this and global relationships. Our biggest weakness is finding foot soldiers, "sales people," to get this built up.
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  • Profile picture of the author TimGreen1
    Nice idea here, but seriously, WHATS WITH ALL THE DOTS?

    It......makes it really........hard to.....read.
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    Man!! What a great idea!!!
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  • MOST travelers/tourists register...enter their room...set down their baggage....Go Potty...THEN....begin thinking about Where To Eat....AND...if they see Card that Says; "Scan This Code (or; type this URL) to find Where To Eat, Where To SHop, Find Local Attractions.

    What are MOST Traveler/Tourists gonna do?

    Also....as an UPsell....you can add a "Re-Direct Script" to the restaurant's WebSite.....for those people who DO...."Google their Mobile Device to find "Regular Websites" of restaurants, etc.

    I was in a similar situation when we went to Gatlinburg Tennessee, got to the room, and wondered where some of the good eating places were. So, maybe putting this information on a flyer and the ability for the new guest to scan different QR codes on the flyer for discounts to some of the local restaurants, attractions, etc.
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    • Profile picture of the author Vikuna2009+
      What about making it a web based app instead? Entice hotel guests to download the app by providing a flyer in their room. Put a QR code on the flyer as well as the actual URL for those that can't or don't know how to scan a QP code. Making the app web based allows you to add additional discounts from other businesses as well.

      If you are unsure if the hotel staff will actually put the flyers in the room, offer to print to hotel/motel a TV Channel Guide for free with the info about the app right on it. Besides putting local offers for restaurants and other businesses, also put all the hotel's info on there as a courtesy to the hotel.

      Some of the offers can also be printed on the TV Channel Guide as well for those that do not have a smart phone. Mention that for additional discount, please download this app.

      Thoughts?

      Thanks, Eva
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    • Profile picture of the author kmalikis
      Has Midasman09 ( Don Alm ) abandoned this thread??? have not seen him come back to reply to some comments.

      Don, if you are around..i sent you a private message almost 2 weeks ago...i'd love your insight. You started such a cool thread by sharing this great idea. Kindly extend your generosity just a bit further

      Respectfully,

      Kam
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  • Profile picture of the author 4webmaster
    I came back from a vacation in Disneyland Anaheim and learned that most hotels and motels have lobby with wireless internet access so I was thinking about this thread for qrcodes, pizza.....
    There was many Flyers for dinner, attraction, tours...
    I ask the manager if they were interested about flyers with qrcodes..... what he told me is that many flyers have great responses like attraction and tours but restaurants or delivery have small to none response because tourist walk on the street and dine out as an impulse. They stop by a restaurant and dine. They rarely stay in room and order pizza or Chinese food even they have flyers in room with menu and phone number so why bother with a mobile site, internet, qrcodes he replied.
    He explain more over that most tourists stays for 2 or 3 days with family and spending money within a restaurant or buffet like all you can eat is not big deal. Some even stay at the downtown disney and have dinner at rainforest...
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    • Profile picture of the author Izesta
      Originally Posted by 4webmaster View Post

      I came back from a vacation in Disneyland Anaheim and learned that most hotels and motels have lobby with wireless internet access so I was thinking about this thread for qrcodes, pizza.....
      There was many Flyers for dinner, attraction, tours...
      I ask the manager if they were interested about flyers with qrcodes..... what he told me is that many flyers have great responses like attraction and tours but restaurants or delivery have small to none response because tourist walk on the street and dine out as an impulse. They stop by a restaurant and dine. They rarely stay in room and order pizza or Chinese food even they have flyers in room with menu and phone number so why bother with a mobile site, internet, qrcodes he replied.
      He explain more over that most tourists stays for 2 or 3 days with family and spending money within a restaurant or buffet like all you can eat is not big deal. Some even stay at the downtown disney and have dinner at rainforest...


      In an area where people do a lot of walking AND pass tons of stores and restaurants in the process, then a mobile directory will surely not work as well. I'm thinking about branching out into this but I wouldn't go anywhere near a walking, tourist area.

      People book hotel rooms everywhere all day every day in just regular places. And when they have to get in their car to drive to find & get everything they want, they will appreciate a mobile directory more. Over my lifetime, I have traveled to tons of p;aces and didn't know where to go to get a good pizza, ice cream cone, etc. Think about business travelers who might need a host of services and want the best. Google can help you find "a" business, but a local mobile directory will guide you to the "best" in town. Many communities have lots of hidden gems that only the locals know about.

      Anything printed is not as good because people usually don't keep up with paper like that any longer. And I think it is very important that the businesses in the mobile directory be the best - and not just any shabby place down the street with equally shoddy food and service. The potential advertisers should know you will only accept the cream of the crop. The businesses will be more interested in being a part of the directory if they see that not just anyone can get listed.
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      • Profile picture of the author HalfSwede
        Hey Don (or anyone else with insight):
        I'm putting your plan into action, but have a couple of questions if you don't mind.
        1. Since the hotel has no skin in the game (i.e. they are not paying for the directory), how do you get them to follow through on promoting the mobile directory so that the restaurants and stores advertising are receiving traffic? I could see putting a 'table tent' in each room and then going back 2 months later and finding out they have all been thrown in the trash, which would not be good.

        2. Speaking of 'table tents'...good idea? I was thinking of a clear, plastic stand with a printed insert which would have a short description of the mobile directory, QR code, URL, etc. The 'table tents' would go in each room and in other common areas (e.g. breakfast area, front desk, business center).

        3. Have you considered offering 'multi-directory' discounts to the restaurants and stores? For example, $100/mo for a restaurant to be on one hotel's directory and $50 for each additional directory. I have 13 hotels in my town that I want to target. Let's say I get 5 of the 13. It would be easier to manage if I had the same steakhouse (seafood, Italian, etc.) on each directory vs. 5 different steakhouses, 1 on each directory.

        Thanks for the feedback!

        Cheers,
        HalfSwede
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  • Profile picture of the author zigzag007
    I live in a tourist town, may try this for sure.
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  • Profile picture of the author farahR
    Still waiting for Don Alm's book or even WSO. He has so many great ideas!
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin McNally
    Hi

    Enjoyed reading the tips on this thread, some good out of the box thinking.

    However, I think you are being very optimistic stating that the pizza owner will get an extra 10 orders per day from a 80 room motel, that would mean 1 in 8 or just over 12% of people staying in the motel will order pizza to their room every day.

    I am based in the UK so I appreciate that motels may be different but over here most small hotels wouldn't encourage customers to eat hot food in their room.
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    • Profile picture of the author HalfSwede
      Originally Posted by Kevin McNally View Post

      However, I think you are being very optimistic stating that the pizza owner will get an extra 10 orders per day from a 80 room motel, that would mean 1 in 8 or just over 12% of people staying in the motel will order pizza to their room every day.
      Agree with Kevin. However, I still think it is good idea and I will be implementing this week in my city. This isn't final, but I'm thinking pricing that goes something like this:
      • $97/month if paid monthly (automatic billing); cancel anytime (this is $1,164/yr)
      • $697/year if paid annually (would prefer payment by check in this scenario)
      • 1x offer of $497/year if they decide and pay on the spot (57% discount vs. paying monthly)
      • 5% discount for each additional mobile website listed on (i.e. for another hotel in the same city). I'd rather deal with 1 restaurant in 5 directories vs. 5 restaurants, 1 each in 5 different directories
      • So, far I have come up with a list of about 25 different 'cuisines', plus shopping (jewelry, lingerie), and services (auto, optician, dentist) for a total, so far, of about 40 different categories.
      • If I sell only 50% of the listings per directory, and sell them at the cheapest pricing, that is still 20 x $497 = $9,940/year. Of course, 40 listings x $97/mo x 12 mos. = $45,560. That's a big difference in potential revenue, but I haven't sold anything yet; it will be easy enough to change pricing. For example, if I sell 17 out of 20 @ the annual rate of $497, I may bump it up and be willing to take 12 out of 20 @ $897...or whatever the numbers work out to be.
      • I also plan to use a call tracking number for each listing ($1/mo per listing) to get a sense of how many calls a business receives. This will likely be more useful for restaurants that take reservations than a jewelry store, but still worth trying.
      • As suggested, earlier, I will also get some coupons. This will be especially important for the restaurants. As an incentive for the hotels to sign up, most of the coupons will go to either the hotel and/or the hotel manager. The hotel manager can use them for his/her personal use; or give them to a guest.
      All that said, perhaps I have missed something; won't know, I guess, until I try.

      Thoughts?

      Cheers,
      HalfSwede
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Young
    That's a cool idea. It is true, that good money can be made.
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  • Profile picture of the author HalfSwede
    Loved this idea when I first came across it. Would love feedback to anyone else who has actually tried to implement...
    Spent many hours putting together hotel agreement, restaurant agreement, and other marketing collateral. I have had conversations with about 10 hotels representing such chains as Courtyard, Residence Inn, Hampton Inn, Hilton Garden Inn, Comfort Inn, Holiday Inn, and Sleep Inn. In every case, the General Manager said any kind of 'mobile directory' would have to be approved by either: a) their hotel management group, or b) the actual corporate HQ of the brand (e.g. Marriott). Also, it seemed that the GM really had no say on marketing decisions.

    Any suggestions? I actually think it would be easy to sell a listing to a restaurant if I could get a hotel to sign up first.

    Cheers,
    HalfSwede
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    • Profile picture of the author peter_act
      Originally Posted by HalfSwede View Post

      I have had conversations with about 10 hotels representing such chains as Courtyard, Residence Inn, Hampton Inn, Hilton Garden Inn, Comfort Inn, Holiday Inn, and Sleep Inn. In every case, the General Manager said any kind of 'mobile directory' would have to be approved by either: a) their hotel management group, or b) the actual corporate HQ of the brand (e.g. Marriott). Also, it seemed that the GM really had no say on marketing decisions.

      HalfSwede
      If you read this thread in full you'll see that Don doesn't bother with motels that are part of a chain.

      You have to go to a cheap motel that is independently owned and operated.

      He gets much better results with el cheapo motels than with upmarket ones.

      Also, if the person is not interested, just say "So long" and move on
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  • Profile picture of the author NewParadigm
    With the popularity of smart phones w/GPS, and the advent of yelp, open table, google places, I'd think the mobile directory would be more valuable if it added reviews. I generally ignore adverts but pay more attention to personal recommendations and online reviews. This might even open the door to reputation mgt business and more, w/ the restaurants signed up. click to call is probably a good idea as well. A current menu offering is also important for any brochure/mobile site.

    Many of the chains are franchised and run by management groups who may own a few to dozens to hundreds. What is to stop you from asking the hotel manager who the appropriate contact is at corporate for a presentation? Geez. a couple calls and a presentation could get you 10,20,100 locations in a whack. If its a good idea and provides value for one independent, it'll surely provide value for a group of 20 locations.
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  • Profile picture of the author peter_act
    Nick,

    I had it all set up, but then Don got "modern" and got his own website where you could download all his reports, so I didn't follow through with it. I didn't want to rain on Don's parade.
    P.S. I also moved to warmer climate of the Gold Coast, so a lot of things have been put on the back burner.
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  • Profile picture of the author clg21
    wow, this is a great idea, sir.

    I have thought of a lot of new business however i never thought of this one. This is very helpful especially for those who are very interested in entering a new and fresh business. What I love about this idea is it is not yet common.
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  • Profile picture of the author Magicalidea
    Why don't they go out themselves and find out good restaurants and food ?
    We are not all depend on mobile phone (technology) right ?
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    I have to admit that what the author wrote this theme impressed me
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    • Profile picture of the author midasman09
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      Look! This is Dec of 2013.....until the economy crashes and even the affluent and "sales" people are NOT traveling.....humans are STILL checking into hotels and motels.

      THESE people have 2 things in common;
      1) They are HUNGRY
      2) They have a MOBILE DEVICE

      So....they check in and.....they see (either on the Check-In Counter or on the desk in their room) a display that says;

      "SCAN HERE FOR LOCAL PLACES TO EAT!"

      Now....put yourself into the shoes of someone who is checking into a place to stay for the evening...AWAY FROM HOME! They are HUNGRY (most travelers don't bring food with them) and....they have (at least 95% these days) a MOBILE DEVICE.

      They see a display on the Front Counter (or in their Rooms) that says;

      "SCAN HERE FOR LOCAL PLACES TO EAT!"

      You kidding me? YOU don't think these people will whip out their Cell or other mobile thingee and either Snap a shot of the QR Code or type in the URL address of a "Directory" that can provide them with WHAT THEY WANT?

      Get real!

      Why others haven't worked on this is beyond me. I've been doingthis since Cell phones first came out.

      Hotels/Motels WANT to provide services to their guests. Restaurants WANT to be noticed by "Affluent Tourists"....looking for places to eat!

      You put all these factors together and they spell "M.O.N.E.Y""!!!!

      Gee whizzers people. IT'S OUT THERE! Ya just gotta GO GET IT!

      Don Alm...."Go-Getter" from way back
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  • Profile picture of the author NewParadigm
    How many recent $750/mo sales have you done? Care to share a couple examples?
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  • Profile picture of the author JackiPigford
    Hi Midasman09,
    This is a great idea, I will try to implement it and i also plan it to implement on Rent A Cars business too. I hope i will succeeded. Thanks for sharing this idea...
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    Amazing ideas you got!
    Thanks for sharing!!
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