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Unread 20th Sep 2011, 03:41 PM   #1
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Does anyone know of any good text message marketing providers/ resellers. I want to resell text message marketing to clients, and use the service in my current affiliate programs, to engage users. Any good companies you guys have used in the past Any and all suggestions would be appreciated!
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There are many providers used by the members here on the forum. There's Yeez, Trumpia, Twilio, Avid, and my personal choice, Lime Cellular. There are lots of threads throughout the Offline Forum about all those providers and more.

1. Do you want to use long codes or short codes?

2. Do you want to give your clients their own login, or is a single login where you manage the accounts good?

3. What features do you need? ie scheduled messages, coupons, polls, appointment reminders, etc.

These are some of the questions to ask yourself before choosing a provider.

I think Lime Cellular is the best white label SMS marketing platform.
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We recently launched our texting business with a lot of help from our vendor. Our original choice was Trumpia...however after finding our supplier we decided to go with them....talk to Mike at TextCoMedia.com and just mention UncleChucke from WarriorForum...also our website is MobileMediaTraffic.com if you want to learn more.
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Please check out 84444.com . Yes, I work for the company and I'm not trying to hide that. I think you'll find pricing to be among the lowest in the industry and the site is easy to navigate.

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Do all or any of these cater for the UK?
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I've looked at many different providers and I'm STILL not sure who I'm going with. I've researched the following fairly extensively: TextMarks, Avid, YeeZ, TXT180, Trumpia, and Lime.

Some pros/cons: TextMarks is simple to use, easily customizable white label interface, cheap ($99/mo to start), good short code. Avid costs more to get started, but they have more features. YeeZ is great for long code providers and they have a ton of features. TXT180 seems good, but you gotta put up $295 to start (but still better than many at $97/mo and up). Trumpia's white label is expensive, but they have a LOT more than others. I joined their affiliate program for free, but I only get 30%. Lime I think needs more up front. Too costly for me.

I don't mind putting up two or three hundred to get started, and a decent monthly cost (averages about $99). But there are just too many features and differences that now I'm PARALYZED BY ANALYZING. Ugghh!

I just want to make a decent profit and not get hit with too many hidden charges (i.e. extra keywords can be a killer). Someone help me, PM me, post here, and/or give your best advice.

I will be going with someone in the next 10 days!! Just not sure who yet.

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p.s. I'm so frustrated trying to work numbers in a spreadsheet to see what my profit can be. I just want a good, reliable platform at a cost that's not prohibitive for the little guy like me just trying to get a small business off the ground.

I swear...the first person to convince me wholly that their platform is best I'm signing up with this week. Seriously!

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We are not just texting, we are much more. We help you communicate to 100% of customers, not just people who happens to give mobile numbers. We can orchestrate multiple communication channels to maximize impact. Also, we’ve been developing our software for over 5 years now which is why we have so many amazing features. Make sure that whoever you ultimately go with is not a reseller of another company. Go with the software developer - that’s how you will get the best tech support. Our tech support is here to help 7 days a week, plus we have weekly webinars specifically geared to help out our resellers.We continue to grow, in fact we were just named in the top 3 in Website Marketing’s Top 50 Movers and Shakers of the mobile industry. We are the only company in the top 3 with a reseller solution.At the end of the day, Trumpia is going to give you the best offering so that your customers can truly fully engage their entire database due to our multi-channel capability.
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I have decided for my business I am going to use text mark's service they offer a free 14 day trial no credit card required and I had great support.
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Does Trumpia have a Text-to-Win template? This can be huge for radio stations. I am looking for a platform.

I've spent thousands on sure thing marketing systems. You're welcome. :)

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Quite a few to name but AvidMobile is the one which I've tried myself and I've seen the results myself. I run my own business and after I zeroed on this sms marketing providers, I was a bit skeptical initially. But everything went fine and I'm glad to recommend it to you.
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I too use Avidmobile and am very happy with them. Excellent price and fantastic training videos. They also have many many power point presentations for various business types that you can edit for your own presentations.
I just started in July and have a few clients that are very happy with their SMS campaigns.
go to Avidmobile.com
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Everyone has very valid points as I did research for about 2 months and found that there is too much of a difference from one to another to compare them side by side. I would recommend doing the research and choosing the company that best suits your needs. Some offer more features but you pay a premium, others are very basic sms systems but at a much lower cost. In my research I found that Avid was the most features rich platform and TXT180 was the most cost efficient. I personally went with TXT180 because cost was a big issue for me getting started and they do everything I need them to. Good luck to you all in your searches or sales.

Razz - They all will try to convince you they are the best but I do think your on the right path, keep doing the research and I wouldn't put a timeframe on it. Search until you find what you need!
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Please check out 84444.com . Yes, I work for the company and I'm not trying to hide that. I think you'll find pricing to be among the lowest in the industry and the site is easy to navigate.
84444.com is nice . They have good services.this is my personal experience . I had used this service to 3 of my clients
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Originally Posted by razztek View Post

p.s. I'm so frustrated trying to work numbers in a spreadsheet to see what my profit can be. I just want a good, reliable platform at a cost that's not prohibitive for the little guy like me just trying to get a small business off the ground.

I swear...the first person to convince me wholly that their platform is best I'm signing up with this week. Seriously!
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i sent you a pm earlier today. Click on my signature, connect with me on skype and as the company president i will walk you through our entire system today. Be one of the first to Demo The Ultimate SMS Mobile Marketing System, Built by consultants for Consultants.

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One thing you will guaranteed not find with any other service is Lime's dedication to its customers. We are constantly adding features and are always open for suggestion. Our support is also very easy to get in contact with and we are even willing to advise you with your campaigns. Another thing is, a lot of the big text marketing platforms compete against you, we do not.

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I have just started to look into the myriad of choices as well and one thing that I know is that you want to partner with a company that has a robust platform. You will need to test for what works for your application.

There are many... and more coming from others in the forum...

AvidMobile(My choice)
LimeCellular
Trumpia
AnchorMobile
Yeez
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Twilio/OpenVBX
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You will need to test for what works for your application.
That is the key...I use several plus I have my own software that gives me the ability to do what others cannot do.

I have restaurant customers who want an application they can use immediately and they want the capability to text not only a list but also single text messages like the example in my signature. Most applications lack that...

This one feature alone has opened the door to hundreds of restaurant customers plus there is no per text charges...

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[*]Bulk rates as low as .05/sms -
For small businesses this might work OK but with just my main list (4825) that equates to $241.25 every time I text the list...

I can live with Twilio's .01 per text but even at that, I would have to double the charge to clients to make any money.

How are you charging your clients?

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AvidMobile all the way......USA Based, great customer support.
Call my Rep James Hutson 877-511-6624

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Mike,

I appreciate the kind words, and I guess now I'll actively post on here since a few of you guys insisted I get actively involved on here.

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Looks like AvidMobile has the thumbs up from several people in this thread.

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For anyone in the UK looking for a good SMS service provider, I was looking around earlier, albeit very briefly. But from the few I found, TextMarketer (no affiliation) seem to offer the cheapest cost per text and with no set up fees. They also offer short codes for as low as £5 per month to generate opt-in lists.

Has some useful videos on there too and these show its ease of use.
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Any good providers for Canada? I was thinking of going with Yeez, especially now that they offer short codes too.
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Any good providers for Canada? I was thinking of going with Yeez, especially now that they offer short codes too.
Yes.....Avid Mobile

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hi rowdy, just a heads up: on your site you mention an sms campaign about giving away a free desert. It should be dessert. (single s = the sandy place)
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We have tried several short code services as well as Chad's long code program through Twilio. The long code service had too many undelivered messages as well as support issues. As for short code services, we are using a reseller of the Avid Mobile platform and it's been an excellent service with no issues... ...just my 2 cents!

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We have tried several short code services as well as Chad's long code program through Twilio. The long code service had too many undelivered messages as well as support issues. As for short code services, we are using a reseller of the Avid Mobile platform and it's been an excellent service with no issues... ...just my 2 cents!

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Hey guys,

The pricing is on the website. You can find the link on my signature.

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I'm with Avid and I couldn't be happier. James is very helpful and will get you going in no time. I researched a BUNCH of providers and everything I read and learned all lead me to Avid. Very highly recommended.

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There are tons of companies out there and you really have to determine what you are going to do with your side of the service to find the one that is right for you.

Will you have 10 clients using it or 500?

What type of clients are you going to cater to?

What features will you need?

How much do you plan to charge?

Knowing who your customers are and what they want most from "your" service will ultimately help you to make the best decision on which provider to go with.

Looking to Start Mobile Marketing? We are looking for Resellers of our Brand in all markets. http://www.SMSsaving.com
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I've been studying SMS platforms for over 3 years and by studying, I mean testing and running campaigns for myself and for clients. I've used long codes and short codes. I have affiliations (White Label or Private Label) with 5 vendors.

I agree with what I think Mo Goulet was implying, that depending on the niche and business desires, different vendors or platforms may provide a faster, better solution than others.

One of my vendors has an absolutely awesome restaurant loyalty program, but their pricing per message isn't so good. My solution: when the program is suitable for a prospect, I pitch the system and offer the pricing based on my consultancy and the value to the restaurant... NOT based on cost per message, which isn't what we need to focus on. We need to focus on the Return on that investment, which is based on traffic into the restaurant and customer value.

In another case, a car dealership wants to offer a Text2Win $25 Starbucks coupon campaign after the Lot Visitor has seen the cars' Mobile landing page. So my vendor in this case has to offer: a) ability to upload csv files with image URLs, nightly - updating mobile pages (deleting SOLD and adding new). b) a Txt2Win set up that allows the acct manager to choose how often there is a winner (ex. 1 in 4) and if I can offer a consolation prize to losers (especially good in restaurant campaigns). c) ... well there can be additional details...

Point is: If you have experience as a marketer - then you know it's about finding out what they have been doing, based on their goals, and offering a laser targeted campaign to boost their results. I have several vendors because I've seen certain market needs that are real, but only addressed by certain vendors...

So my goal initially is to get enough clients in that system to pay my expenses... (right?) Usually 1-2 clients on a platform will pay for the White Label, but I prefer to land 5 or so per platform as soon as I can. That's better for case studies, too!

If you have little experience as a marketer and perhaps you are thinking about SMS and Mobile sites as a sure thing easy money niche to start in... well it can be, but you might want to get clear on the principals and psychology of sales first. It's about solving their perceived needs.

All this being said, I do have a few stock campaigns that work very well, based on experience and a few parameters like:
- is it easy for the business to manage this/easy for my team to manage this for them?
- is it easy for the business owner to see the value of promoting the offers/can I offer suggestions and creatives that will help them promote?
- and a few more

If you need to choose just one to start, look at tech support 1st.
Do they respond quickly?
Do tech support responses make sense to you?
(I'm not talking about campaign & marketing training here, as most platforms fall short in their marketing training)

Certainly, look at features and campaigns that are sort of one-click setup - most important is ease of use for implementers AND consumers.

LongCodes and ShortCodes: I like them both. There are plenty of small businesses near you that could benefit from Premium keywords (like PIZZA) and who will never have the need to blast more than 1000 messages/hour.

The Shortcode vendors that are being discussed here all have solutions to the most common niche needs in Text 2 Win, Polls, Text 4 Info, Ask, etc. campaigns, as do the long code vendors. I use YeeZ and like it.

Most vendors have associated Mobile page or Mobi site builders, as well.
Check these out and see if what's available to you fits your Mobile marketing philosophy... are you more into landing pages per campaign (is this important to you?) or is building Mobile sites what you want to offer?

IMO, Please realize that SMS and Mobile pages can seriously ADD to existing campaigns, making them better. Forget that's it's the newest technology and focus on the effectiveness. Charge an appropriate fee for your expertise and don't make the cost per message any of your clients concern... offer a fair value for your time and expertise.

just my 2 cents (maybe 25 cents)

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Hey guys,

The pricing is on the website. You can find the link on my signature.

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pricing is not on the site,..how much the is basic starter price?

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Originally Posted by Mo Goulet View Post

PM me your phone number if you want to talk. I'll share the two programs I use and I might be able to help you move in the right direction.

Get specific in a small niche and you'll make a boat load of money. Try to diversify and you'll get more frustrated.
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this is only my 2nd post in the warriors but been reading for a while,,..it seems to me that you have one of the best options as far as sms marketing but i do see a lot of resistance from many warriors on your platform,..why is that?? thx

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Originally Posted by Mo Goulet View Post

For small businesses this might work OK but with just my main list (4825) that equates to $241.25 every time I text the list...

I can live with Twilio's .01 per text but even at that, I would have to double the charge to clients to make any money.

How are you charging your clients?

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I started out with Twilio/OpenVBX, but it seems Mo Goulet is offering increditable deal. I am sure he would be open to let one try it out if one is apprehensive.
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JHuts34

pricing is not on the site,..how much the is basic starter price?

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Susan, I apologize I just saw your post. Inbox me your email and I will gladly shoot the PDF over to you, you can also go here to download it. AvidMobile Pricing

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The OP asked for recommendations from people who have used sms companies. Obviously anyone who has their own sms service is going to be biased to their own service so those recommendations help no one. This is a discussion forum NOT a forum for self promotion. I'm noticing a lot of self promotion in threads to do with sms marketing.

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Please check out 84444.com . Yes, I work for the company and I'm not trying to hide that. I think you'll find pricing to be among the lowest in the industry and the site is easy to navigate.

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It might have been some time since you looked at industry pricing, but your prices look pretty high to me. Just sayin...

Oh.. and I am with YeeZ, so I won't hide that since you were being honest about who you were with too!

Sorry... I couldn't help but make sure I was in on this "Self Promotion" thread too.

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TextCo Media offers the best Text messaging services IMO. Fast setup, affordable, unlimited. A product that is geared for people that want to sale and marketing SMS advertising.
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WOW taking notes. I am in need to find a cheaper provider I got a nice list from this thread.


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I agree with Webbink...Textco is a great provider...IMO. Do your due diligence and find the one that is right for you! Best of luck to everyone in that decision making process. There is a ton of info out there!
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Anyone had good experiences with any Australian resellers? I have just begun to research what is available, but if anyone has a heads up that would be great.
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I built a text message list once but wasonly able to get about a dozen people to opt in. It didn't really turn out for me but I can see the value in it.
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This is a great thread! Still, there are two things I wonder about:

1) I've been advised that it's best to look for a white label sms provider that's been around for years, to increase the likelihood that they'll be able to pay for the short codes they offer. So, who does that include?

2) I've also been told that it's good to be with a company that offers Facebook connect and QR code generators. So...who does THAT include?

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Originally Posted by CPAmum View Post

1) I've been advised that it's best to look for a white label sms provider that's been around for years, to increase the likelihood that they'll be able to pay for the short codes they offer. So, who does that include?

2) I've also been told that it's good to be with a company that offers Facebook connect and QR code generators. So...who does THAT include?

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You were told by whom...a company that's been around a while and offers QR codes lol.

The longer a company has been around, obviously the more established they are...it has nothing to do with being able to pay the 50-60k a year, per shortcode.

Having something to link with FB and Twitter would be a nice addition and with the thousands of sites offering free QR codes, if I still used them...they wouldnt need to be a part of my platform.

All in all, don't go by what your told, do your research and make sure what they offer fits what you need.
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Originally Posted by timjenkins88 View Post

Does anyone know of any good text message marketing providers/ resellers. I want to resell text message marketing to clients, and use the service in my current affiliate programs, to engage users. Any good companies you guys have used in the past Any and all suggestions would be appreciated!
I found exactly what we're all looking for yesterday but I have to be sure before I post my brilliant solution in the Classified section.
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The OP asked for recommendations from people who have used sms companies. Obviously anyone who has their own sms service is going to be biased to their own service so those recommendations help no one. This is a discussion forum NOT a forum for self promotion. I'm noticing a lot of self promotion in threads to do with sms marketing.
Your observation goes deeper than just self-promotion helping no one. It also raises valid questions about the sms companies recommended whether they own them or use their services.

We all know something nobody else knows and that's what discussion forums are for so let's start talking, discussing and planning what works and what doesn't and figure out why. Knowing why is the key to finding out what works - nobody needs to know HOW to do much of anything except the one thing MO GOULET mentioned above: marketing.

This is the REALITY most people are going to face when building lists of sms subscribers. Does anyone know WHY?
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I built a text message list once but wasonly able to get about a dozen people to opt in. It didn't really turn out for me but I can see the value in it.
Here are the results to one of the most popular survey questions about building an email list.
  • Do You Have A List? If So, How Many Subscribers Do You Have?
I Don't Have A List: 62.0%

1-100 19.0%

101-500 7.0%

501-1000 2.0%

1001-5000 8.0%

5000+ 2.0%
There are more than 2% with over 5000 subscribers but those guys didn't fill out the survey because they were too busy building their lists and catering to their current subscribers so they don't unsubscribe. If 90% can't build a regular email list, how are they going to build lists using sms messaging? Where are white label resellers and sub-resellers going to find clients to buy their sms services at $80 to $200 per month?

My signature link is NOT the solution I was referring to above. I sent Will a PM a couple of days ago but he never responded so that tells me he was NOT very impressed and then I realized why.

I'm guessing that most, if not all of the sms companies listed are start ups no more than a few years old. Isn't SMS turning 17 this year or next year? Those companies are NOT sms service providers. They are marketers [middlemen] charging way too much for "credits" by including lots of extra fluff for high perceived value. They don't offer much, if any international coverage because net profit % goes down. When it comes to their bottom line, marketers know how to KISS and never tell.

The dedicated short codes those companies lease are shared using the keywords assigned to their customers and resellers. More than ONE is usually extra. One $160/mo plan comes with FIVE keywords. I suppose that's reasonable if you believe those firms are paying more than a few thousand every year for dedicated short codes. They're not. The set-up fees are around $1500 and YOU can lease your own for $500 to $1800 per month depending on the code you choose and the deal you make. That's right. YOU can lease your own short code if you want to. You don't need to go through middlemen, especially if you're serious about this business.

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Is there anyone out there who is copywriter specialize in writing mobile text? I mean, i have a product of a certain popular niche and i want to write some good ads to invite my clients to take part in the program. The text as usual should be less than 160 characters.
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Originally Posted by tjkirgin View Post

Also check out Anchor Mobile we have been voted the #1 SMS Reseller platform in North America with tons of mobile marketing reseller options including text to win. Info in my sig.

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You might need to redesign your website. I mean the one in your signature. I bounced as soon as I landed on it. Couldn't keep my eye on the page. So I didn't even get to read what you had to offer. Hope you take this as a constructive criticism.

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Originally Posted by mand4mac3 View Post

Quite a few to name but AvidMobile is the one which I've tried myself and I've seen the results myself. I run my own business and after I zeroed on this sms marketing providers, I was a bit skeptical initially. But everything went fine and I'm glad to recommend it to you.

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