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I live in Canada and looked for a reseller/white label sms platform about 11 months ago to use here. I tried trumpia, and avid and they were expensive as hell, and then I tried galaxytext and they're great, I'm still with them now. You need to make sure though when you call these guys to not get suckered in the hostings and extra stupid costs that are bullshit. Avid was a headache to break away from and out of respect I wont mention the prices. At least with galaxytext they dont shove upsells down my throat and it's not a dumb credit system.
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I live in Canada and looked for a reseller/white label sms platform about 11 months ago to use here. I tried trumpia, and avid and they were expensive as hell, and then I tried galaxytext and they're great, I'm still with them now. You need to make sure though when you call these guys to not get suckered in the hostings and extra stupid costs that are bullshit. Avid was a headache to break away from and out of respect I wont mention the prices. At least with galaxytext they dont shove upsells down my throat and it's not a dumb credit system.
I'm not sure why you think a credit system is dumb. I wouldn't want to build to 3 million a month on an unlimited plan because I know they would not be making money and therefore I could lose my service.

A local fast food chain had that happen. They were on an unlimited plan and got too big so they got cancelled.

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Can any one recommend one for india???
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I'm not sure why you think a credit system is dumb. I wouldn't want to build to 3 million a month on an unlimited plan because I know they would not be making money and therefore I could lose my service.

A local fast food chain had that happen. They were on an unlimited plan and got too big so they got cancelled.
I'll explain and this isn't an ego or a "I think I know it all". I worked with 2 other partners on this for 11+ months 24/7, I've seen it all in MM, I know all the companies out there who offer MM. I've tried it all as well, and I blew a lot of money and lost A LOT of prospects, but just to make a point about credit system, when you see a client, it's tough enough to make an appointment and an initial pitch. Then you finally have the day of the meeting with the client, finally when you explain everything and they LIKE IT, then they go, ok, so how much does something like this cost, and when I was using the credit system I didn't land ONE client because convincing them mobile is here and people text is hard enough, then you need to explain for every text you send out it's 3 credits and blah blah blah and then you get objections and rebuttals. It's enough 80% of clients are not technically savvy(even the corporations with marketing teams are idiots), then explaining how pricing works confuses them even more and you get the old run around, "Ok great thanks, can I have your business card?", or worse, "I need to talk to my partner". If they weren't sold on it, you think they will convince or even care to explain their partners, and when their partners ask how much it is and the initial partner doesn't even really understand the credit system(even though it's simple),... well you get the picture.

With pricing up front it's easy. I never offer unlimited text ever unless I know the style of business. We both know which industries are perfect for text and which aren't. If someone comes to me and I know it's going to be high volume MT I price accordingly. I only offered unlimited texting ONCE and it was in real estate because I offer 10 keywords at lets say $30 per keyword. Well I know each house will only get an opt-in rate of 10-15 people. So if I say text is $.05 and there's 15 people per house opting in that's 150 x $.05= 7.5 bucks for those texts. Instead of confusing them with MTs and MOs and all that jargon, to land that client I will say it's $30 per house, everything included. I try and simplify the process as much as I can. In MM when I see a business model of unlimited text just pay for the number os subscribers(opt-ins), it disgusts me because these companies know there's low opt-in from customers so they bank on that and YOU LOSE. I can go on but that's my input.
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I've been with Avid for about 6 months.

They have the best per sms pricing in the industry. If your clients, in aggregate, will be sending out tens or hundreds of thousands of texts per month, then the monthly license fees become irrelevant and the per-sms fees of paramount importance.

Also, you have room to grow your business by bringing in other resellers (organization level) or even resellers that manage other resellers (enterprise level). Other white-label services I've looked in to do not offer this.

If you plan to bring in large, multi-site businesses as clients, you need this flexibility.

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If your clients, in aggregate, will be sending out tens or hundreds of thousands of texts per month, then the monthly license fees become irrelevant and the per-sms fees of paramount importance.
Sorry but I have to say this is the biggest load of crap EVER and the same shit Avid told me when I signed up with them.

Let me ask you Gene, how many clients do you have? Are you sending out over 1000 texts a month? How many opt-ins with how many keywords? Believe me I will tell everyone reading this now that you will not be landing clients or businesses like you think. I have been doing this full time and I know the market and business from A to Z. Avid is in the business to sell to suckers like Gene and me. Of course on paper it looks good to save money on text messages in the long term, but don't be an idiot. No one or business WILL EVER SEND THAT MUCH. I have very big clients and you know how many texts they send out? Not much. So I was paying the retarded expensive monthly license fees until I realized that I was losing so much money. Sorry but Avid are crooks and I will be glad to debate this with anybody here or Rob at Avid. Please find me a business, a corporation that is sending millions of text messages.

The money to be made in Mobile Marketing are from resellers and white label business, not from the actual technology. Want proof? Why does Avid push the reseller and white label? I got sucked into it. They make money off people like us, not actually businesses. People need to really get their elbows dirty in this business before they make posts on here.
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Well... if you go directly with Avid, then you better have a plan to recoup your costs.

I think I read somewhere that the average white-label SMS reseller takes 6 to 12 months to really learn the biz and start getting clients.

However, if you know someone who is an org-level reseller for Avid, then he might be willing to work something out for you so you can get in the biz without all the high fees...

What about it Kefka... want back in?

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Sorry but I have to say this is the biggest load of crap EVER and the same shit Avid told me when I signed up with them.

Let me ask you Gene, how many clients do you have? Are you sending out over 1000 texts a month? How many opt-ins with how many keywords? Believe me I will tell everyone reading this now that you will not be landing clients or businesses like you think. I have been doing this full time and I know the market and business from A to Z. Avid is in the business to sell to suckers like Gene and me. Of course on paper it looks good to save money on text messages in the long term, but don't be an idiot. No one or business WILL EVER SEND THAT MUCH. I have very big clients and you know how many texts they send out? Not much. So I was paying the retarded expensive monthly license fees until I realized that I was losing so much money. Sorry but Avid are crooks and I will be glad to debate this with anybody here or Rob at Avid. Please find me a business, a corporation that is sending millions of text messages.

The money to be made in Mobile Marketing are from resellers and white label business, not from the actual technology. Want proof? Why does Avid push the reseller and white label? I got sucked into it. They make money off people like us, not actually businesses. People need to really get their elbows dirty in this business before they make posts on here.

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For those asking about Australia I have signed up for a trial with SMS Broadcast.
No monthly fess, you just buy credits and some good features included.
I haven't used my free 10 credits yet, just waiting on a client to get some numbers for me!
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Originally Posted by Gene.Gerwin View Post

Well... if you go directly with Avid, then you better have a plan to recoup your costs.

I think I read somewhere that the average white-label SMS reseller takes 6 to 12 months to really learn the biz and start getting clients.

However, if you know someone who is an org-level reseller for Avid, then he might be willing to work something out for you so you can get in the biz without all the high fees...

What about it Kefka... want back in?
Gene, just to mention don't take my comments as a personal attack, I am just voicing my experience with Avid, but I need you to answer my question about how many clients you currently have and how much MTs are sent each month because you must either work for Avid or are a reseller.

I was with Avid, it was extremely expensive to start up with ZERO return and believe me I pushed really hard, I didn't sit back behind a computer like most people want to do on here and wait for clients. I'm just saving people the time and money when there are so many other companies at a low investment to start up. This knowledge and wisdom will save a lot of money for a lot of people.

As well to read a study that says resellers typically take 6-12 months to get customers. It's very accurate, and applys to any offline business really which anchors my point even more. You will be paying an arm and a leg for the first year and even 2 years before you break even. I'm using someone else now, I'm not with Avid anymore so I don't need to get "back in". I don't have to sweat my balls off praying to break even anymore, I can take the small losses.
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I don't think I hid the fact that I'm an Avid reseller... I've been with them for 6 months.

It's true that a more cost-effective route to getting started with this business might have been to go with a low-cost alternative during the learning-curve time.

But, had I not learned about the Avid platform, I would not now be in a position to offer the features & pricing required to close several national organizations with a combined 80 or so locations between them. The projected volume of texts for these two customers will eventually reach a million or more per year.

Furthermore, Avid's CEO participated in the sales process by hosting a customized Webex presentation.

My vision is to grow my text marketing business by specializing in multi-site organizations and working with resellers.

I have a team of telemarketing agents in the Philippines grooming databases for me and generating leads. I'll probably end up referring all sing-site leads to resellers that work with me.

I also have educational/training kits under development for a variety of sms niches. I'm still undecided as to how they will fit in with the overall strategy, but they will be an important asset.

If anyone's interested in repping the Avid platform as a reseller, I'll make it easy for them to get started- just contact me.

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Gene, just to mention don't take my comments as a personal attack, I am just voicing my experience with Avid, but I need you to answer my question about how many clients you currently have and how much MTs are sent each month because you must either work for Avid or are a reseller.

I was with Avid, it was extremely expensive to start up with ZERO return and believe me I pushed really hard, I didn't sit back behind a computer like most people want to do on here and wait for clients. I'm just saving people the time and money when there are so many other companies at a low investment to start up. This knowledge and wisdom will save a lot of money for a lot of people.

As well to read a study that says resellers typically take 6-12 months to get customers. It's very accurate, and applys to any offline business really which anchors my point even more. You will be paying an arm and a leg for the first year and even 2 years before you break even. I'm using someone else now, I'm not with Avid anymore so I don't need to get "back in". I don't have to sweat my balls off praying to break even anymore, I can take the small losses.

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Gene's correct it does take some time to ramp up, learn the ins and outs of mobile marketing, and it's important to choose a vendor that has the resources and training team to get you up to speed in a timely fashion.

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Gene's correct it does take some time to ramp up, learn the ins and outs of mobile marketing, and it's important to choose a vendor that has the resources and training team to get you up to speed in a timely fashion.
Exactly my point, so why the heck would someone pay insane high prices from the start only to get a customer or two 1 year later?(and the profit you make is peanuts by the way) This is offline marketing, not online. That means you need to get off away from your computer and go into meetings and call people.

With that said, there are PLENTY of companies that offer a very low start up with a shared short code, as low as even $20 a month with a certain amount of MTs. Want to start out then do it that way, test the market and if there is potential think about a dedicated short code and a full attempt into SMS. I made the mistake of jumping into SMS with retarded high prices. I know better now.
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hi

just found this discussion and i jump in as i am researching the same thing since the past 7 days. I am from Europe.

I have a classified website where i want to integrate sms payment so my customers when they post an ad they pay via sms.

I found a few solutions however all the companies i found have a strong brand like their logo is everywhere and i do not want to advertise any of them for my customers who are signing up on my site.

I am looking for a white label reseller solution for taking sms payment on my website perhaps reselling the solution for other website owners under my brand and if there are options for sms marketing solution in the same white label package would be great.

does this company or solution exists i described above? and supports countries in the European Union?
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No need for that. Had an atrocious experience with Avid. Would NEVER recommend them to anyone. So please move along.

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I use avidmobile, and love it.

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Thanks, T J, that info is helpful as I'm again in the market. I have seen mobileStorm often, but did not know that they have a reseller program. I may look into that. I also have spoken with AvidMobile, but am confused as to why they need to charge me a monthly fee to be a reseller. Do you happen to know if Lime Cellular charges? I'm not high on the idea of buying texts and reselling them. A reseller that sells under that company's name, IMO, should not have to purchase it and resell it. Even if you brand the product as your own, I think having a buy rate established by the company is enough - after all, I am bringing them the new customer, why should I be charged to do it? Just my two cents.

Two other questions - do they do QR codes and mobile websites?

I am signed up with one that I would completely NOT recommend, so if anyone needs to know one to stay away from, let me know, as I don't want to publicly call them out.

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A couple responses here;
I know Lime and AvidMobile have a mobile website platform. From my preliminary walkthrough of both AvidMobile's looks far superior.

A comment on the idea of high investment to license a real platform. Well from an investment standpoint, there is very few businesses in the world that you can start for $300 per month. Go open a hot dog stand, and you will invest more than that!

If you go with a company that has good training, and can help you ramp up quickly, I don't see how in the first month of selling you couldn't close 5 or 8 clients.

Let's say you close each of 5 clients for a $50 setup and $40 per month. That is $90 per client x 5 clients = $450 return month 1
Many businesses take a year to recoup your money. This business I could see myself being profitable month 1.

If there aren't 5 businesses in my city that wouldn't want to do mobile coupons, database building, and have a mobile website for that amount of money, then I don't really know what the heck i could sell that would be better.
This appears to be an easy choice and great opportunity.

Perhaps those that couldn't close enough sells to recoup their $300 per month weren't following the right sales model, priced their services too high, or simply were lazy and didn't make the calls and set appointments.
I don't really know, just talking (*or typing) out loud.
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I have to agree with you for most part @Markmobiler!

When I fist got into mobile years ago wanted to control everything, meaning having my own platform on my own server. This is just the way "I use to be".

But as my business grew + more and more features demanded by clients I learned that the amount of time invested maintaining was not worth the effort.

Started by using an SMS plugin sold here (WSO) and soon found the author answered his help desk tickets when "he had time". Well my clients did not operate by mine or his hours so it became a nightmare. Lesson learned...

$300 (or even $600) a month for a solid platform is a very small investment for those wanting to run a real SMS business.

If you want to "dabble" go host your own or get one of the platforms that answers your issues in 24 or "so" hours. If you want to run a real business and sleep at night, invest in a real platform

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Terry I have followed your footsteps through the years on this forum. I have seen you involved in almost all the same products and services that i have gotten involved with. I understand your feelings on this and agree with you. To date I have found many self hosted platforms that to date I have no issues, Then again I have been in your shoes with other platforms that where nightmares and sad support! I know the plugin that sold here which you spoke of and had the same problem. I still kinda use it for small clients but move them to other sofware platforms if they need other services.

Not everyone starting out has the capital to go to and get a real system so dabble they do LOL.

I respect your word as I know you been around this as long as I

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I have to agree with you for most part @Markmobiler!

When I fist got into mobile years ago wanted to control everything, meaning having my own platform on my own server. This is just the way "I use to be".

But as my business grew + more and more features demanded by clients I learned that the amount of time invested maintaining was not worth the effort.

Started by using an SMS plugin sold here (WSO) and soon found the author answered his help desk tickets when "he had time". Well my clients did not operate by mine or his hours so it became a nightmare. Lesson learned...

$300 (or even $600) a month for a solid platform is a very small investment for those wanting to run a real SMS business.

If you want to "dabble" go host your own or get one of the platforms that answers your issues in 24 or "so" hours. If you want to run a real business and sleep at night, invest in a real platform

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Hey Joe! Yes I can tell we have been around the same block a few times I only hope you have not stumbled as many times as I have, lol.

Many times when I start a new project and especially businesses I do not throw funds at or into it without dabbling first. It does not matter if I have extra funds sitting around (normally not the case for me), I still go the cheapest route which is "do it yourself" 99% of the time.

Once I have turned a profit and have done so for 6 straight months, time to start looking for ways to lighten my burden of do-it-yourself.

In the case of my SMS business I sold off all self-hosted clients, the platform running it and 6 months of support to new owner. This turned a very, very nice profit. I then turned around started building another SMS business but this time choose the hosted version where someone else handles backend issues.

My biggest issues these days is age and health. In the younger days I could run for days on end with 4 hours sleep per day. Loved to dabble and do it all myself. Now I fall asleep after working 4 hours, LOL.

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If you have not got a chance to see Rick kaisers Twilio SMS platform you should go look at it. He is offering it right now for only $9.95 a month for warriors. Truly a warrior special offer and subject to change fast, it has all the bells and whistles, I got a tested his platform and its NICE!!

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My company has a White Label SMS Reseller platform. Come take a look at our website and if you like what you see, we can always set you up for a free demo. You can add me on Skype: bsiaccounting or reply to this message if you have any questions.
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Great list! Thanks. I admit I am new to this, I looked at most of the companies on your list. I am still really happy with AVID. We are in the second tier great block of texts included and per text overages are great price too. We are a small two person office so I have to pick my focus. I am going to focus on Real Estate Agents with a monthly of $40, $2 per listing and 5 cents a text. Do you folks think that is a good price? I figure I have my monthly fees covered with 7 agents. Also they are having a convention in Sept for Real Estate Agents I am thinking of going and showing this new app... anyone have luck with agents?
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I believe protexting has discontinued their white label program
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Unread 14th Aug 2014, 12:34 AM   #77
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Hello friends,
I am from india. I want to know about best cheap India white lable Bulk Sms Providers...

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Unread 14th Aug 2014, 12:22 PM   #78
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Originally Posted by Instructor View Post

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I'm looking for a white/private label sms platform.

If you know of any please list them here.

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I do like Lime but my research has proven the platform by easymoneywithmobile to be far better for me. They offer a do it all for you or do it yourself format. They offer a $1. trial too which I like.
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I suggest you do a trial for all of the aforementioned and see what fits YOUR situation the best!

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Protexting used to offer sms private label solutions, but on a higher level with licensing the sms platform, monthly fees for all of the apps they offer. If you are seriously trying to enter the sms marketing field, you'll need to take your time and research all of the companies out there. It is very competitive industry now, not as it used to be.
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yes avidmobile is really good...
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The only people promoting Avidmobile are Avidmobile employees. Save your money and look for a different company. Lime Cellular is the best solution if you are looking for an all in one platform and they actually own/create the technology they sell...unlike Avid.
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Currently right now, who else are Warriors reselling for the white label sms solution?

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