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Originally Posted by nickhumph View Post

Thanks! So I guess you take a little bit of a risk creating the sites beforehand - but if you amaze them with their business on a mobile already then you're like already halfway over to getting what you want!

hmm nice
Personally, I think that if you're going to build a mobile site to demo to a prospect, do no more than two pages of his site and tell him that you can finish it if he wants you to. That way, you're limiting the time you're building sites to demo.

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Originally Posted by Daniel LaRusso View Post

Man, I think I had a light bulb moment about this whole method after reading this post from you!!

I was driving myself goofy trying to figure out how you did the directory, because I was thinking about it wrong. I was thinking this was a MAJOR mobile directory, like something that pulls data from yp.com or something, and had a ton of local restaurants. But I think I finally got it now - it's not that at all! It's more of an exclusive directory of the activities and restaurants that one hotel recommends, so it would be much smaller than one of the big directory sites.

So, you could name the site something like: joeshotelrecommends.mobi or something like that, get recommendations for great restaurants and local activities from THAT hotel (which many may have an old print directory), and build out your mobile directory just like you described in your post.

You're not trying to, as the old joke goes, run down the hill to get one cow, you're walking to get them all! By being more exclusive and sort of targeted to each hotel, you control what you do on your end building the site, you keep the hotel happy because you show just what they recommend, guests love it because EVERYONE has a smartphone these days, and the local businesses love it.

I think I got it!!

Here's a thought I had in addition to doing this at apartments - put beneath the QR code to go to X website (use your favorite) to get a FREE QR code scanner.

Am I on the right track here, midasman?
And how are you going to get people into your mobile directory? without traffic in your directory what is a place in there worth?

Placing a ad alone is not going to work to get traffic and i highly doubt hotels and restaurants are ok with you promoting their clients with other establishments...

So how are people going to find your mobile directory?

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And how are you going to get people into your mobile directory? without traffic in your directory what is a place in there worth?

Placing a ad alone is not going to work to get traffic and i highly doubt hotels and restaurants are ok with you promoting their clients with other establishments...

So how are people going to find your mobile directory?
You don't have to get ranked in Google or do SEO to get found.
You're only targeting hotel guests and they find your site on the front desk when they check in, door swipe envelopes or in the hotel room.
Offer the hotel freebies, SEO, mobisite or optimize their GP listing and they might let you do it.
It's a win-win situation. Actually make that 4XWin, hotel, guest, you and biz in your directory, all win.

That's what I understand from Don's post, but I could be wrong.
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OK....do what I always do; Put Yourself INTO the "body" of your "Target Market"!

With this "Town Mobile Directory"....my best clients for this are "Restaurants". Resturants best customers are....people looking for a place to eat...ON THEIR PHONES!

If I'm planning on staying in town for a day or 2....WHAT....will I look for on my Phone?....to find a Place To Eat (aka Restaurant)

So....I can type in;
"Restaurant in Town"
"Restaurants in Town"
"Restaurant in Town State"
"Restaurants in Town State
"Restaurant Town"
"Restaurants Town"
"Restaurant Town State"
"Town Restaurant"
"Town Restaurants"
"Town State Restaurant"
"Town State Restaurants"

You can either use the 2-digit abbreviation for the state. In Oregon it's "OR"....or the full name of the State (although I don't think many people will spell out "Massachusetts")

So....I go to my handy dandy "Domain Available Finder" (www.BustAName.com) and type in all the above possibilities.

I list the ones that are Available.

Then I go to the Google Adwords Tool and enter in those I found that are available and....list their Search Numbers.

I then Grab 2 or 3 or more of those names and make a Town Directory website...listing Categories (Where To Eat - Where To Shop - Where To Stay - Attractions - Services)....and....I then make a "Mobile" site demo (I'll put in a few Demo biznesses)....WITH a _Re-Direct Script to the Mobile Site (This is designed for people who are USING THEIR PHONES! Like "Tourists" or "Travelers"!)

So....here comes a couple driving down the expy into town. The wife types in "Restaurants In Town" (Or, "Restaurants In Town State" etc! You have the Search Numbers. She could be typing in ANY of the above URLS)

So....she picks one of OUR Domains and Whammo-Bammo....the re-direct script send her to OUR MOBILE SITE....where she can SEE the biznesses we got to participate.

Now....I just go by the "Numbers" the Google Tool tells me. I do some SEO and backlinks HOWEVER....I don't really need to because I KNOW how many searches there are for each Domain (Or....just ONE Domain)

I also place QR Codes on signs on cash registers and on hotel/motel desks.

Again.....THIS "Town Mobile Directory" is primarily for "Tourists/Travelers"!

Re: Hotels/Motels; Grab a couple of domains for "Hotels/Motels";

"Hotels in Town State"...etc

So...what you are "selling" is a MOBILE WEBSITE that can be found with various URLs.

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Don... my theory has always been that we as marketers and sales people must learn to think outside the box. You my friend are a genius!!!

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Don... my theory has always been that we as marketers and sales people must learn to think outside the box. You my friend are a genius!!!

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Too many people here are trying to put a monetary number on features.
You do NOT sell features. You sell BENEFITS. You sell value. If what you
have does not look like a good deal, add more value!

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Originally Posted by nickhumph View Post

What if the hotel owners didn't want you to set up a mobile directory for them? It could be a negative experience for them? Let's say the hotel had a resturant and then this mobile directory if it was choc-full of resturants for example, the hotel would lose money.
A lot of hotels have directories of local businesses in them, QR makes the idea far more useful.
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Originally Posted by TribalStyleMarketing View Post

I think what Don & others are trying to get across to you & believe you me, I was having a hard time learning this as well...They're paying you for your expertise, your knowledge, you're consulting advice, & of course the LABOR that it takes to do this. Just because you know this stuff like the back of your hand, & they know how much Hosting is, doesn't mean that you can't charge them a fair amount for your time & years+ invested in knowledge & technology.
Yes and no. What they are really paying for is RESULTS. How much hosting costs doesn't really matter to a business, neither does your expertise, knowledge, consulting advice, or labor. What matters to them is results, more paying customers and profit for their business. If what you do for a client brings them that they will be happy, if not they won't.
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You don't have to get ranked in Google or do SEO to get found.
You're only targeting hotel guests and they find your site on the front desk when they check in, door swipe envelopes or in the hotel room.
Offer the hotel freebies, SEO, mobisite or optimize their GP listing and they might let you do it.
It's a win-win situation. Actually make that 4XWin, hotel, guest, you and biz in your directory, all win.

That's what I understand from Don's post, but I could be wrong.
I don't think this is going to work at all, as there isn't any traffic in those directories, even if (and this is a big IF) you get permission to promote your directory the traffic that would come from that is so small that selling spots in there would just be a waste of money for any businesses owner.

No website can do without traffic, period.

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It already sounds like you know what you are doing and got it on the track. But, what I would do is create my own mobile site (if know how) or find a template across the net somewhere (I have come across a couple of good ones free).

Once you have edited the template to the look and feel of your site (if any) find a web host (most of them about $5.00 USD month) and upload to it. It's basically that easy. I have found it easier to create mobile sites then full sites. I hope this has helped.

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Originally Posted by YellowGreenMedia View Post

I don't think this is going to work at all, as there isn't any traffic in those directories, even if (and this is a big IF) you get permission to promote your directory the traffic that would come from that is so small that selling spots in there would just be a waste of money for any businesses owner.

No website can do without traffic, period.


I think the key here that your missing is that while there may not be tons of traffic it will be very targeted and captured traffic... tourists whom are swayed by nothing else. I would prefer the lesser traffic but more captured any day. Just like marketing sales... would you rather go out and randomly call on 20 prospects per day to make 4 sales or qualify your prospects first eliminating half of them, then go out and give 10 presentations to make the same 4 sales? I personally prefer the captive audience.

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I think the key here that your missing is that while there may not be tons of traffic it will be very targeted and captured traffic... tourists whom are swayed by nothing else. I would prefer the lesser traffic but more captured any day. Just like marketing sales... would you rather go out and randomly call on 20 prospects per day to make 4 sales or qualify your prospects first eliminating half of them, then go out and give 10 presentations to make the same 4 sales? I personally prefer the captive audience.

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I am not missing that, but there are so many hooks on this that you can't sell spots to your clients, first i don't think hostels are going to let you promote a directory filled with their competitors in their hotel...

It just doesn't make sense at all... Sure, people gotta eat, but 9 out of 10 hotels have their own restaurant, do you really think they will let you promote other restaurants in their hotel, to their customers... really?

And even if you get some hotel owner as nuts as he would promote your directory the amount of people using your directory is so low that you can't justify any cost at all to business owners when it comes to selling spots... you can but your clients will be pissed of at you when they find out your directory is bullcrap...

I hate to burst the bubbles here, but building a mobile directory will be a waste of time and money simple because you don't have visitors, and again without traffic your site is useless. in theory it sounds like a good idea but if you think a bit more about it you will see the many complications like having no traffic.

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I hate to burst the bubbles here, but building a mobile directory will be a waste of time and money simple because you don't have visitors, and again without traffic your site is useless. in theory it sounds like a good idea but if you think a bit more about it you will see the many complications like having no traffic.
The OP has been making LOTS of money this way for years. If you search for his threads you will see how often he has mentioned what it is he does. Don brings up these ideas here to give others things to think about. You've made your point that you won't be using this idea. The whole method presented gives people lots to ponder by someone who has proved it works.
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I am certainly not talking about puting competition for the hotel into the directory... Here in the USA about 9 out of 10 hotels DO NOT have a restaurant in them... just the opposite of your stat. The reason I believe this captured audience would make it work is because I published coupon magazines in tourist towns for many years. I know for a fact that business owners want to appeal to that dollar that is here today but gone tomorrow.

Now perhaps in all actuality the renewal rate of your advertisers may not be as high as they are in my direct mail magazines (84%) that totally saturate an area around a business but that is because the business doesn't get hit with as many redemptions right off the bat like one does when 15,000 pieces are home delivered in a single day.

IMHO, with QR codes in rooms and around hotel as well as the different keywords redirecting traffic to your directory and signs placed about town like mentioned above I believe it could work. I know I don't want unhappy clients and I know I have the capability of making the sale, I may actually go out and give this a shot.
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I am certainly not talking about puting competition for the hotel into the directory... Here in the USA about 9 out of 10 hotels DO NOT have a restaurant in them... just the opposite of your stat. The reason I believe this captured audience would make it work is because I published coupon magazines in tourist towns for many years. I know for a fact that business owners want to appeal to that dollar that is here today but gone tomorrow.
LOL in almost every hotel i have ever been around the world, there was a restaurant attached to it and i have traveled a lot... about your magazines adsm, that is a whole other ballgame.. you can be sure when you place a ad in a magazine that your ad is going to be seen, that is not the case with a mobile directory... it is comparing apples with oranges... a magazine has traffic... a empty directory doesn't no matter if you ad some flyer's at some hotels without restaurants


Now perhaps in all actuality the renewal rate of your advertisers may not be as high as they are in my direct mail magazines (84%) that totally saturate an area around a business but that is because the business doesn't get hit with as many redemptions right off the bat like one does when 15,000 pieces are home delivered in a single day.
How great for you, still has nothing to do with getting traffic to a mobile directory.

IMHO, with QR codes in rooms and around hotel as well as the different keywords redirecting traffic to your directory and signs placed about town like mentioned above I believe it could work. I know I don't want unhappy clients and I know I have the capability of making the sale, I may actually go out and give this a shot.

LOL QR codes... Never mind we come from two different worlds and cultures, the US people are more receptive for this kind of marketing, Dutch people not so much...

I know for sure that no one here will ever take a look at these QR codes... 90% of the normal population (no marketers and no IMers) doesn't even know what a QR code is, let a alone that they are going to install a app to scan a QR code that directs you to a mobile directory with your clients restaurant in it... when all they have to do is to type restaurant + city in Google and have a huge selection of restaurants in the neighbourhood

If it works for you great... but this is way to far fetch for me and my clients, basically i will be given them two things that just doesn't justify the investment...

First a mobile directory with no real traffic, just maybe some guy who figured out how QR codes works if your lucky, and secondly.... The QR codes that nobody is using...

Well good luck with that....

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The OP has been making LOTS of money this way for years. If you search for his threads you will see how often he has mentioned what it is he does. Don brings up these ideas here to give others things to think about. You've made your point that you won't be using this idea. The whole method presented gives people lots to ponder by someone who has proved it works.
I really don't give a hoeha about how much money the OP has sad he made, i tend not to belief virtual people... and the last time i checked this was a public forum where people could discus various topics... and i post within the rules of WF.

If you don't like what i have to say because you cant stand that someone criticize or has second thought on one of your guru's method, then you're free to take it up with the mods...

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If you don't like what i have to say because you cant stand that someone criticize or has second thought on one of your guru's method, then you're free to take it up with the mods...

Have a good one.

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Anyone heard of the mythical "Mrs. Yebbut"?
Years ago, Ray Kroc came up with the idea of selling hamburgers directly to people in their cars.
Mrs. Yebbut said "Yebbut why would anyone buy a burger to eat in their car? It would probably spill in their lap, and what would you do with the wrappers? People would much rather go inside and sit at a proper table with a waiter."

Moral: just try Don's idea and see if it works - if it doesn't work at least you know it doesn't.

As for a policy of not giving stuff away for free, don't the mobile phone companies give away iPhones if you sign up for a monthly fee? Of course you end up paying a premium price for an iPhone. With Don's idea the client ends up paying a premium price for a mobile website - so what's the difference?

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Here's my effort at Don's idea - the menu tabs which you can't see are takeaways, coffee shops and bars.
These tabs could lead to your "directory"
I can't see why motels wouldn't let you put a card with a QR code into every room -it's a service for their guests and they already have compendiums in a book format, this is just an electronic version of the same thing.
As an incentive you could give them a free mobile website for the motel itself.

If you can't read the text, it says "As a special service for our guests here is a selection of nearby eateries and coffee houses."



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Anyone heard of the mythical "Mrs. Yebbut"?
Years ago, Ray Kroc came up with the idea of selling hamburgers directly to people in their cars.
Mrs. Yebbut said "Yebbut why would anyone buy a burger to eat in their car? It would probably spill in their lap, and what would you do with the wrappers? People would much rather go inside and sit at a proper table with a waiter."
I really don't see the point here, selling burgers to people in cars (take out) isn't as dumb as selling spots to a empty directory ...

Like i sad before i am glad i am not your client, because all off you who think this is a great idea,

Do not have the client interests at heart, sorry to say, but your willing to sell them spots on sites that don't have or almost don't have any traffic so the ROI will suck.....

Just look at it.... first you're going to put flyer's in rooms of hotels, should be very easy because in the US no hotel seem to have their own restaurant.

Ok lets say you find these hotels that will let you promote other businesses in their rooms.

Let say you fill a 100 rooms with a flyer and QR codes (you guys really seem to love QR codes, to bad the rest of the western doesn't) now on average 80% of these rooms are filled with people

So that is 80 people, of those 80 people only 50% has a smartphone So now you have 40 people, now of these 40 peopleabout 10% knows how to handle QR codes and will go true all the trouble of installing a app and scanning the QR code (and that is on the high end)

So in the end you will have 4 visitors a day per 100 hotel rooms where you promoted your mobile directory.... Yeah i would love to be on that directory to if i was a restaurant owner.

Moral: just try Don's idea and see if it works - if it doesn't work at least you know it doesn't.
No, i don't work for free, period.

As for a policy of not giving stuff away for free, don't the mobile phone companies give away iPhones if you sign up for a monthly fee? Of course you end up paying a premium price for an iPhone. With Don's idea the client ends up paying a premium price for a mobile website - so what's the difference?
Apples and oranges, when you get a free phone you need to sign a 2 or 3 year contract, so the mobile phone companies are certain that they will profit from giving that away for free,... that is not the case with giving away free mobile websites... or do you wanna tie your new clients on a multiple year contract? Don't think you will get a lot of business that way.

Nothing personal Dave, you are perfectly entitled to present a different point of view from Don, and it would be remiss of you not to do so if that is what you think.
I never see a different point of view as a personal attack on me Peter , you guys do a lot of things differently and i think that especially US folks market in a very different way, a lot of the stuff here would not work here in Holland, business owners here are far more skeptical then US business owners, so there will always be a difference in culture and stuff like that.

Sometimes i forget that

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What a fantastic thread! I'm planning on getting into the mobile market within the next month or so, as it's a massive market that's only going to get bigger, and some of the ideas and concepts presented here are ones I'll definitely be taking up myself.

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Let say you fill a 100 rooms with a flyer and QR codes (you guys really seem to love QR codes, to bad the rest of the western doesn't) now on average 80% of these rooms are filled with people
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You could say the same for MacDonalds back in the early days, and look where it is now, everwhere and most people know how to use it. QR codes may catch on at a faster rate though.
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You could say the same for MacDonalds back in the early days, and look where it is now, everwhere and most people know how to use it. QR codes may catch on at a faster rate though.
I have seen other big businesses use QR codes as well, the only thing is that the general public doesn't use them, hell they don't even know what they are... QR codes have been around for years now and is never going to take of.

It is something i will not offer my clients because of the fact that i can't justify the investment in QR codes, even if i give them away for free there is a lot of printed stuff that need to be invested in, like bill forms and menu's.

You're better of using texting then QR codes because everybody knows texting, if nobody is using the QR codes expect marketers and geeks how do i get a good ROI for your clients then?

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I have seen other big businesses use QR codes as well, the only thing is that the general public doesn't use them, hell they don't even know what they are... QR codes have been around for years now and is never going to take of.

It is something i will not offer my clients because of the fact that i can't justify the investment in QR codes, even if i give them away for free there is a lot of printed stuff that need to be invested in, like bill forms and menu's.

You're better of using texting then QR codes because everybody knows texting, if nobody is using the QR codes expect marketers and geeks how do i get a good ROI for your clients then?
I do think QR is catching on more than it did last year in The Netherlands, maybe you can offer them both to your clients?
What kind of text service do you offer your clients in The Netherlands? (I'm also from NL).
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I do think QR is catching on more than it did last year in The Netherlands, maybe you can offer them both to your clients?
What kind of text service do you offer your clients in The Netherlands? (I'm also from NL).

Really? i haven't seen anyone mentioning QR codes except marketing people and geeks... go ask a 100 people if they know what QR codes are... you will be shocked lol.

I have 2 sms services one is just the normal listbuilding and one is appointment reminder service which is not really popular just yet.

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Really? i haven't seen anyone mentioning QR codes except marketing people and geeks... go ask a 100 people if they know what QR codes are... you will be shocked lol.

I have 2 sms services one is just the normal listbuilding and one is appointment reminder service which is not really popular just yet.
I see theme on menu's of cafe's, restaurants and bars more and more the last month's.. (a lot of theme without a mobile website so I check those places and offer them a website including some QR marketing )

Wich sms/text provider do you use in NL? I see a lot of the big players but most of the time they are not providing their services in The Netherlands..
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I have seen other big businesses use QR codes as well, the only thing is that the general public doesn't use them, hell they don't even know what they are... QR codes have been around for years now and is never going to take of.

It is something i will not offer my clients because of the fact that i can't justify the investment in QR codes, even if i give them away for free there is a lot of printed stuff that need to be invested in, like bill forms and menu's.

You're better of using texting then QR codes because everybody knows texting, if nobody is using the QR codes expect marketers and geeks how do i get a good ROI for your clients then?
Man, you have got to expand your way of looking at things. You've been pretty negative about everything mentioned in this thread, and now you are on qr codes. You can integrate a qr code campaign with texting, emails, mobile coupons, and a host if other things. And just google stats about qr code utilization - its skyrocketing. Sure not many people used it last year, because it was new and unfamiliar, but you really need to be perceptive about what you can offer now as well as in the future.

And ROI for a qr code campaign? I would say that, when used properly, its quite a ROI.

How easy is it to put a couple of lines of text under the code:
Don't have a scanner yet?
Go to xyz.com for your FREE scanner now!

Problem solved.

One final thing. My six year old daughter and my sixty year old mother both know exactly what qr codes are, because they see them all over the place.

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I see theme on menu's of cafe's, restaurants and bars more and more the last month's.. (a lot of theme without a mobile website so I check those places and offer them a website including some QR marketing )

Wich sms/text provider do you use in NL? I see a lot of the big players but most of the time they are not providing their services in The Netherlands..
About 70% of my clients are restaurant and bars and i have only seen it once... and even so the general public has no idea what QR codes are... i will not offer them to my clients as long as at least 60% of the general public knows what it is. and as for now its around 5% so.....

I use mollie.nl for my SMS stuff, you have to contact them and they will help you getting setup.

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I maybe be negative about QR (which i am) but you need to come of your pink cloud of imagination and smell the coffee, almost nobody on the general public knows what a QR code is, and those who do, don't care....

I did my own research on it, we have been out there on the street asking random people if they know what a QR codes was and of the couple of 100 people we asked only a view knew what they where.... most of them thought it was some kind of freaky art.

And do you really think when people are out eating or having a drink that they are going to go to the trouble of installing a app, learning how the app works, and scanning a QR code? get real will ya.

I really wished that QR codes where taking of, cus it is a great technique. but they don't and that is just a fact... and that you guys keep pushing QR codes on to your clients makes me wonder if the client interest is really in good hands with you guys, or are you just in it to milk a bit more out of your client?

My job is to get my client the most out of his investment, and any investment in QR codes is nothing but a tax write off for my client. ohw and that your family knows about it is not something you had anything to do with it right?




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Man, you have got to expand your way of looking at things. You've been pretty negative about everything mentioned in this thread, and now you are on qr codes. You can integrate a qr code campaign with texting, emails, mobile coupons, and a host if other things. And just google stats about qr code utilization - its skyrocketing. Sure not many people used it last year, because it was new and unfamiliar, but you really need to be perceptive about what you can offer now as well as in the future.

And ROI for a qr code campaign? I would say that, when used properly, its quite a ROI.

How easy is it to put a couple of lines of text under the code:
Don't have a scanner yet?
Go to xyz.com for your FREE scanner now!

Problem solved.

One final thing. My six year old daughter and my sixty year old mother both know exactly what qr codes are, because they see them all over the place.

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I think a lot of people know what they are by the picture they may not know they're called QR codes.

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Qr codes are not taking off in the US

When I explain and show them to people they are like "wow" but lose focus real fast... Hard to market this way.

Yup, big businesses are using them like Avis and Budget but they don't even go to a mobile optimized site. ...nobody caught that in the engineering room? I contacted them, but no response and trapped in VM hell for followups.

apple.com is not mobile optimized either!

Sucks, they can have huge impact. Not yet though.

I hear they are (and have been) big in European countries? Can any fellow warriors attest to that?


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I life in Holland and almost nobody knows what QR codes are, so no it is not big in Europe, the only place where it is big is in the Asian part of the world... but in the western world it is not taken off, which is to bad because you can do a lot with this technique if the general population was using i9t, but they don't, so move on

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And do you really think when people are out eating or having a drink that they are going to go to the trouble of installing a app, learning how the app works, and scanning a QR code?
If it means a free drink/coffee/dessert for them, yes I do!

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If it means a free drink/coffee/dessert for them, yes I do!
They don't.... they absolutely don't and why? because people are lazy and they are not going to jump true all those hoops just to get a free drink... especially when they are out on dinner or drinks with friends....

You wanna keep fooling yourself that is fine by me, but you guys are really doing your clients a disservice by offering them QR codes and having thjem invest in all kinds of print and such...

I have done my own research on it, maybe that is something you guys need to do to, go outside and ask about 200 random people if they know what a QR code is (show them one) and you'll find out for yourself why QR codes is not a good marketing tool.

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They don't.... they absolutely don't and why? because people are lazy and they are not going to jump true all those hoops just to get a free drink... especially when they are out on dinner or drinks with friends....

You wanna keep fooling yourself that is fine by me, but you guys are really doing your clients a disservice by offering them QR codes and having thjem invest in all kinds of print and such...

I have done my own research on it, maybe that is something you guys need to do to, go outside and ask about 200 random people if they know what a QR code is (show them one) and you'll find out for yourself why QR codes is not a good marketing tool.
It's all a matter of perspective. Many of us think you are doing your clients and prospects a disservice by NOT having QR codes in your toolbox. And like Peter said, in this economy, heck yes people will spend a few seconds installing an app (if there are instructions under the QR code or if they don't already have the app) and scanning a QR code if they can get something free or a discount.

I went to the site that I recommend underneath the QR codes I provide (which is short and easy to type) from my wife's phone. From the time I typed the URL in to the time the app was installed, I took a picture of a QR code, and was redirected to a mobile optimized coupon was a whopping 2 minutes and 12 seconds.

The next time you go to a restaurant, look around you, and see where many people's eyes are focused. With a lot of people - younger folks, older folks, couples, whatever - it's often NOT on each other; it's on their smart phones. People use them all the time, so why not incorporate a discount from a QR code?

It's all in how you use it, man. I told myself I wasn't going to reply here again, but I have absolutely had one dentist and multiple restaurants ask ME if they can get QR codes integrated into their campaign. It does indeed work, the ROI is very good, and people absolutely do scan QR codes.

I think the better test would be to go out with a 8 1/2" x 11" laminated card with a QR code on it, above the QR code have "Scan this QR code to get a $5 bill from me on the spot", and beneath the code, have "No QR code scanner? Go to xyz.com/reader for a FREE scanner"

THEN see how many of the 200 people who see the code scan it. Or better yet, remove the variable of $5 not being enough of an incentive, because the real goal of the study is to see what % of people will scan a QR code, and give people $50 just for scanning the code.

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It's all a matter of perspective. Many of us think you are doing your clients and prospects a disservice by NOT having QR codes in your toolbox. And like Peter said, in this economy, heck yes people will spend a few seconds installing an app (if there are instructions under the QR code or if they don't already have the app) and scanning a QR code if they can get something free or a discount.
No people will not do that when they are out for dinner or having a drinks with friends... you're being totally unrealistic

I went to the site that I recommend underneath the QR codes I provide (which is short and easy to type) from my wife's phone. From the time I typed the URL in to the time the app was installed, I took a picture of a QR code, and was redirected to a mobile optimized coupon was a whopping 2 minutes and 12 seconds.
So you can create a fast QR codes, you still missing the point that THE GENERAL PUBLIC DOESN'T USE THEM, you just don't wanna see it do you?


The next time you go to a restaurant, look around you, and see where many people's eyes are focused. With a lot of people - younger folks, older folks, couples, whatever - it's often NOT on each other; it's on their smart phones. People use them all the time, so why not incorporate a discount from a QR code?
Again because the general public doesn't use QR codes,

It's all in how you use it, man. I told myself I wasn't going to reply here again, but I have absolutely had one dentist and multiple restaurants ask ME if they can get QR codes integrated into their campaign. It does indeed work, the ROI is very good, and people absolutely do scan QR codes.
Really? i find that hard to belief... you proberbly pointed that out to them first, sold it as the next best thing after sliced bread... and we all know that it isn't.


I think the better test would be to go out with a 8 1/2" x 11" laminated card with a QR code on it, above the QR code have "Scan this QR code to get a $5 bill from me on the spot", and beneath the code, have "No QR code scanner? Go to xyz.com/reader for a FREE scanner"

THEN see how many of the 200 people who see the code scan it. Or better yet, remove the variable of $5 not being enough of an incentive, because the real goal of the study is to see what % of people will scan a QR code, and give people $50 just for scanning the code.
Sure if you do it on the street you might find some people who want to learn, but that is a totally different setting then when you have dinner with your friends or when you out on a date (you really think people want to scan a QR codes for discounts on a date? and then wondering why they don't do well with the woman lol )

Yu keep believing that QR codes are the next best thing after sliced bread and i will remain to the facts, and the facts are that QR codes have been around for years, it doesn't take off, it doesn't have a ROI for the client and so i will not offer it to my clients, as i am here to make them money, not to have them spent money on worthless gadgets like QR codes.

This is the last thing i am going to say about QR coed, my point of view is clear and i don't feel like repeating myself so much, lets just agree that we think different about QR codes, you think they are great marketing tool, and i strongly belief they are a total rip off, used to extort more money out of clients

No hard feelings i hope, just a different point of view

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Great thread with some great ideas.

I am doing a big push offering offline services to estate agents at the moment - QR codes are perfect for that business - don't care what the negs on here say.

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I life in Holland and almost nobody knows what QR codes are, so no it is not big in Europe, the only place where it is big is in the Asian part of the world... but in the western world it is not taken off, which is to bad because you can do a lot with this technique if the general population was using i9t, but they don't, so move on
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We are all pretty aware of your Take on QR Codes and your insistance that nobody uses them, especially in Holland,.

So I have compled a few artiles for you to bring you up to speed:

Netherlands Launch QR Code Nutritional Campaign On Large Scale

World's First Coins With QR Codes Will Start Circulating in the Netherlands Next Week | Popular Science

Dutch start-up launches QR code mobile payments - Telecompaper

Ironically, back in June the Royal Dutch Mint put the first QR Code Coin into circulation...taking that into consideration, how can people in holland NOT know what a QR Code is?

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LOL....I love it!!! Nice research...

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These campaigns where so great that nobody ever saw them... but even if we did

NOBODY KNOWS WHAT TO DO WITH QR CODES, i really don't give a sh** about what kind of campaigns marketers roll out, the fact is that most people think it is art of some kind. they have no clue, which is kinda important if you wanna use it as a marketing tool.

I understand you guys wanna make yourself belief that QR codes are the next best thing after sliced bread, because most of you see yourself as a very ethical consultant that doesn't sell services that (if you be real honest with yourself) have no ROI, so you have to keep fooling yourself that it works great for your clients to keep selling them this "service".

Glad i am not client by any of you, you don't have the client interest at heart, you have your own interest at heart when you sell them ****ty services like QR codes.

That is the last i will say about this subject....

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We are all pretty aware of your Take on QR Codes and your insistance that nobody uses them, especially in Holland,.

So I have compled a few artiles for you to bring you up to speed:

Netherlands Launch QR Code Nutritional Campaign On Large Scale

World's First Coins With QR Codes Will Start Circulating in the Netherlands Next Week | Popular Science

Dutch start-up launches QR code mobile payments - Telecompaper

Ironically, back in June the Royal Dutch Mint put the first QR Code Coin into circulation...taking that into consideration, how can people in holland NOT know what a QR Code is?

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I agree, the dutch people have too many other 'distractions' to focus on QR codes.




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These campaigns where so great that nobody ever saw them... but even if we did

NOBODY KNOWS WHAT TO DO WITH QR CODES, i really don't give a sh** about what kind of campaigns marketers roll out, the fact is that most people think it is art of some kind. they have no clue, which is kinda important if you wanna use it as a marketing tool.

I understand you guys wanna make yourself belief that QR codes are the next best thing after sliced bread, because most of you see yourself as a very ethical consultant that doesn't sell services that (if you be real honest with yourself) have no ROI, so you have to keep fooling yourself that it works great for your clients to keep selling them this "service".

Glad i am not client by any of you, you don't have the client interest at heart, you have your own interest at heart when you sell them ****ty services like QR codes.

That is the last i will say about this subject....

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I think anything offered for free is a good way in, its then simply a case of proving value to the business as most wont think twice for a $50 / mth subscription.
Yes i am agree with you if anyone offered anything for free is good for you.You can do small business for free of cost ......

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It's a great thread. Starting mobile site business myself this month and I'll be testing this method compares to other pricing packages. Let's see how it goes. =)
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That is the last i will say about this subject....
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It's a great thread. Starting mobile site business myself this month and I'll be testing this method compares to other pricing packages. Let's see how it goes. =)
Everyone should try this approach and not be swayed by one persons take on the subject.
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They don't.... they absolutely don't and why? because people are lazy and they are not going to jump true all those hoops just to get a free drink... especially when they are out on dinner or drinks with friends....

You wanna keep fooling yourself that is fine by me, but you guys are really doing your clients a disservice by offering them QR codes and having thjem invest in all kinds of print and such...

I have done my own research on it, maybe that is something you guys need to do to, go outside and ask about 200 random people if they know what a QR code is (show them one) and you'll find out for yourself why QR codes is not a good marketing tool.
You are wrong.. People actually LOVE doing this for offers here in the US..

Wan't to know why? Because you are doing it wrong.. All you have to do is educate the waitress to point out the offer on the table stand, the customers scan the code or simply enter the URL (which is below the code) and they opt-in with their mobile phones.. automatically they receive a free drink coupon or whatever it is and that is it..

It doesn't take more than 1 minute, if they don't give a damn about QR codes like you say then they just simply visit the opt-in page via their mobile browsers.. No biggie.

You NEVER base a whole campaign on QR codes.. Yes 70% of the people will have no idea wth a QR code is which is why you always enter a URL for them to visit with their browsers..

People must be lazy where you live man.. Or you are simply not making the offers "cool" enough.

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Ok, I just want to clarify that I wasnt looking to stir up an argument or get a posse together to go Lynch Dave over his opinion of QR Codes.

He is entitled to his opinion even if others of it don't agree.

I only posted what I did to make a point that people in Holland are much more aware of QR Codes than he seems to think.

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I thinks offering free mobile site setup plus reasonable monthly fee is good for those offline internet marketers who are just starting their business and have difficulties to convince business owners why they should pay for a mobile site.

I think it's better start with small steps rather try to jump into big business, then get frustrated by own lack of experience and leave it forever. Many really good and successful IM professionals who teach many of us how to start offline internet marketing business, may not have a good idea why some people are failing. Not everybody is born with ability to talk nicely and convincing to buy some products, there are many reasons for that. But starting little by little may be very helpful to overcome shyness and lack of experience.
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