Andre Slater

I just started a Offline business helping businesses sell more of there stuff... Providing services like google plus local, Reputation Management, Website Design, etc. I haven't got my first client yet, as I have been getting everything straight and soaking in everything.

I am wanting a cheap lead in product to offer and was thinking to offer mobile websites. Charging around $100-$200 setup fee and $50-$100 dollars a month. Worst case scenario I can offer mobile website free upfront and $50 on the back-end as I am hosting and maintaining.

I purchased a product called Mobi Mimic and haven't really start using it yet, they also have a white label version for $997, the price kinda stopped me for a moment. It got me researching mobile website building tools. If I am going to spend that I want to make sure I am buying the very best of the best...

I would like software that will allow me to build incredible mobile sites and sell them cheap and fast.

The 3 that I found that has my interest are:

1. DudaMobile - Don't know too much about this site... How much money potential and how their builder works.

2. Mobi Mimic White Label - I have the regular version, but have not tested. The only issue I see is that I have to get a snippet of coding on to the main site to point to the mobile site, don't know how hard that would be getting from owner.

3. EZ Mobile Site Generator - I saw on warrior forum...

After researching more on Duda Mobile they seem to be the originators of mobile websites and they have been doing it for awhile.

So my thoughts are why invest in mobile website builders other than dudamobile if they are the champs of mobile websites?

Please help me figure this out WF... I would love to offer this service since I know everyone needs it.

cpadualcore

I have used few mobile website builders (both online and desktop versions) and I suggest you start with Dudamobile. You can design a mobile site from a website using a free Dudamobile account and they will give you a "preview url" which you can show your "potential" clients. Only if your client is interested in working with you, then you can pay for their premium service (about $10 per month) to host the website and finish the project.

So far, Dudamobile is the best option for starters in this field if you are low on budget. there is also "GoMobi", but I don't like their service at all. Its kinda expensive and not user friendly compared to Dudamobile.

butters

Please read...

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You would get better answers posting this in the mobile marketing section or offline marketing.

fxstay

you have mobile site to sell ?

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scamsel

hey andre, i don't like duda because you have to pay monthly hosting and you don't really ever own the site (all the files and everythign), but they do make converting a site to a mobile version pretty easy. but i'd rather design my own personally.

not sure about mobi mimi, no experience with it.

ez mobile site generator is great. i think you'll find you need/end up with a few different mobile website building tools. ez mobile is great, also willr templates are great especially to get started, and for the price its really a steal...you can get up and running pretty quick with them.

just my 2

Steve Solem

I've used a few different mobile builders and some templates purchased through various WSOs. Mobimimic looks nice and similar to duda but more affordable, but given the choice between a company I don't know or a company (duda) who Google apparently trusts enough to partner with, I'd go with Duda even though their monthly is a little more expensive.

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Gladiator

Mobi Mimic, sold here in the warrior forum is interesting. By entering the url of the desk top website. It will render a mobi site, created automatically. You then can clean it up a little and add other pages and enhancements to the site! I tried it - like it but I'm wondering if the feature are enough to compete with the others at this time.

I would like the Ability to install Push Messages script, return to desk top site, map get directions, navigation with images etc. Anyway I'm sure a more experienced mobi guy can expand on this. As I'm also interested in this white label mobi builder!

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FanMagicMagnet

I use Dudamobile....Platform is very easy to work with...I on the other end of the technical spectrum.....Here is why I would go with Duda....If you run into a road block on how to design your site, you can call Duda and talk to a real person and get the proper direction your are seeking. Yea, it's $6.00 month for each site....the customer service is priceless!

blazer20

I am also researching mobile site builders and would love more input.

The two I'm looking at right now are pijnz.com - full csm, website builder. You can host it on your own server. They charge around $150. a month. (looks fairly full featured....qr codes, sms, coupons...etc). (geez, what a name....I always forget how to spell it!)

The second one is mobilebizbox.com. I have a free 30 day trial. They have everything you could imagine to do with mobile sites but the sites you build for your clients are hosted on their server and I don't know much about their support or reliability. They cost $147 a month plus.

So....please chime in if you have experience with mobile site builders. It's so much better to get reviews from those that are already using a system.

thanks!

Gladiator

I just checked pijnz.com and I think that it is very high on the prices so Mobimimic here in the forum looks good! Just wish all the feature were available now!

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Andre

Prices for pijnz.com
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White Label
$165per month
40 mobile sites
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website and branded marketing videos, additional sites are $5/month/each.
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goingup

About mobimimic-mobimimic generates the code you need. This is than placed in the header of the original site, the site that mobimimic is copying. i wont be placing that there. I will tell any client who buys the mobile site that in order to make the site permanent they need to place that code on their site, and will provide it to them.Hands off for me as much as possible. But that i will host and maintain the moblie site for 100 a month(or whatever fee i choose)

Didnt see the point of the white label. as you can change the code to point to something other than mobimimic easily.

Only dead fish go with the flow.

Andre Slater

Sorry when I posted this I was thinking that Internet Marketers are all over mobile websites let me post there...

Well I did buy it for $67 bucks monthly... Have not used it yet as I am waiting until after holidays to start working mobile website. I was happy with everything until the white label pitch of $997, which basically got me investigating more. This is why I wanted the opinions of what other WF members are using.

Wow those are expensive... I will have to take a look at them.

MoBuzz

For me using mobile websites as a lead in is a tough sell. Prospects seem to see me as a designer which I am not. Plus most times I get the "I will run it by my designer" response which is actually a legitimate answer.

And charging $50- $100 a month for hosting?? If your lead in business approach is to over charge your client for a service, then I would think you are going to have problems in the long run. Maybe try something like a $149.00 design fee plus $20.00 a month hosting/maint fee. After all it will take less than an hour to build the site in most cases. Once you build a nice portfolio and have references you can charge a little more.

I have Duda and I played with it for awhile, my idea was to use it to make quick mock ups when in the field., but in my experience the sites just do not convert well.

Honestly I just think there are better options out there. If you are not offering SMS services and you just need something for mobile sites, get WillRs program. It is super easy to use and you can host the mobile sites on your clients sub domain (where they should be in most cases anyway) and you can still charge a small monthly fee for maintaining the site. This is just my opinion : )

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OnlineStoreHelp

I think I am in the minority but in my opinion, if you have to sell a mobile website, then the site is outdated and needs to be recreated anyway, to a CMS that is mobile ready. If they are on Wordpress, there are several mobile apps you can use to make mobile ready sites (or even a responsive theme). If they are ecommerce the platform should have either modules or already be mobile ready.

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wealthyminds

I was just checking out WillR's WSO on JumpMobi.com - Haven't clicked on the Buy button yet - He's offering the whole CMS (using wordpress) for $67 when you enter a coupon code. Has anyone tried the latest V3 yet?

HammerNiko

I sell mobile sites to locals and use many tools. Maybe i will sell the whole biz in a box if there are good buyers.

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gcampton

Or you could be a real warrior and simply post what you use here.

Personally I've been using responsive WP templates since 2010, and played around with the free mob plugins. The free plugins are fine and create half decent sites, if we are only talking local clients here then really they shouldn't have too much fluff on their sites anyway. So long as the caching is done right then responsive templates work fine and load quickly on mobiles.

What I'd like, and have tried a few but figured they were mostly all crap is "App builders".

I'd like to be able to build an app based on the website, so users can download the app and I can market the app. Apps are easier to sell to locals than a "mobile site" really you should be selling them a "SEO website" which includes Google+ Local, Mobile, SEO, Video, and on-page optimized website rather than just a "mobile site"

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we have launched a make your own app platform. we provide an user friendly platform for android and iphone apps

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gcampton

What's the point of this post? You don't link to anything, you don't say whether advertising will be embedded in the app and you don't say what it involves... Why on earth would I want to try and search it out when you've done nothing to help me?

I'm asking of course as a marketing perspective not trying to be an ass. There's just far too many people on this forum with terrible social skills who don't understand thought leadership.

Which c***y website am I supposed to click on first? the website design, sunglasses hut, flower seeds, or kids theater?

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darune123

I have used responsive wp theme, wp mobile plugins, mobile website creator software, and html to create mobile websites for clients. What I have come to realize that many of clients have different needs for there mobile sites, and not every system is a one size fits all.

I have had the most success with responsive themes (though I end up with graphic or video problems often) and EZMobileSiteGenerator plugin. The plugin is pretty versatile and accomplishes most of my needs while keeping all of the wordpress tools/plugins useful on a mobile devices.

However, after going into BestBuy today, and seeing no desktop, and an overwhelming number of tablets and mobile devices, I think I am going to focus my 2013 business on apps and mobile sites.

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kazba

Would it be fair to say that if you host the mobile websites yourself and there is an update, you have to go and update all the individual sites yourself as opposed to mobile sites that are hosted with the company who update across their sites?

Still trying to decide who to go with.

brickandmobile 100% for their support and easy of using the program. But I don't need the sms. I do want white label though and they have so much training, presentations and marketing materials.

My partner and I have tried quite a number of the programs so far and B&M is so far my number 1 pick.

Cheers,

Kazba

Gladiator

I checked the site brickandmobile and they don't have the cost for whitelabel reseller price you have to sign up!

But the cost for 3 sites is $47/m too much I think! What platform are they using? Dudamobile would be a better but they don't have whitelabel.

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cnckevin

I'm using Dudamobile and for the most part love it. I have a decent recurring mobile income from this so I'd recommend them to anyone starting out. I only have about 50 clients on it now but hoping to add 100 more in 2013!

ozarksentinel

Has anyone tried or considered Mojaba. They are designed for professionals and easy to use. Seem a little pricey though at $300 per year per site.

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Steve71

I've started using mobilebizbox and it is by far the best system I have used. They do charge $10 per site, first 5 are free, but this charge is only if you keep it hosted with them. You can move the site to any server and will not be charged.
They also have app creation included in their price which brilliant. The training, support and marketing material is worth the price. If you are serious about building high quality mobile site fast then make sure to check them out.

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HammerNiko

Just google it. Best way to get clients for me is show proof of ROI. I have a good mobile web development site business in a box that i do not need and give it to someone. Just pm me.

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IhsanBeezer

Dudamobile is what I suggest to start out with - low cost, fast design, customer service is available.

- Get Clients as an agency (only YOU do the updates, etc.)
- Close a few more deals
- Study a bit more about mobile website design (if you wish)
- Branch off into your thing

For now, learn how to sell them is key. The technology will change a lot by this time next year - selling skills you develop will always be in demand.

Good luck!

Adrian John

Why bother paying monthly fees for your client's mobile friendly websites?
Find someone in here on WF to outsource the design and charge whatever you want.

For example me an my new team can do regular niches mobile websites, mobile e-commerce, real estate, auto dealers ... but there are more designers in the Warriors For Hire section.
Do your research, see an portfolio, ask questions and when satisfied hire them for all your mobile design work and focus on the sales.

I still see plenty consultants doing the mobile websites by themselves , or doing responsive design which will never be as user friendly as an custom one and will never look that good, losing countless hours trying to figure out things and losing lot of sales in the process.

When will people realize that outsourcing some of the work it's the best way to reach higher profits and free up more of time?
Improve your sales skills as they are in huge demand and let others do the ground work, keeping most of the profit for yourself, satisfy the client to the best opening opportunities to upsell very easily.

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BarbStep

Anyone use mob.is.it for mobile websites?

Would like some feed back.

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dantehicks

A little late to the game here, but wanted to share my experience.

I've used Pijnz for a handful of "higher-end" mobile sites - I'm very comfortable building a 100% custom mobile experience using this platform. Especially with their "hot spots" aka image maps, if you are skilled in Photoshop you can make some pretty impactful designs that stand apart from other mobile sites, especially the JQuery Mobile ones. It's a good place for designers who might not have mobile coding chops, to put together a professional mobile site. Typically they won't score well on the Mobile OK Checker, but at the end of the day they load fast enough, and consistently across all devices - iOS, Android, even Blackberry believe it or not.

That said, I'd recommend their Kickstarter package at $15/mo which includes 3 hosted sites. I started out as a white label for $165/mo but soon realized it was overkill for what I needed. Plus, the ability for clients to sign in and use a CMS didn't really translate to value in my experience - they never signed in and instead just contacted me when changes were needed.

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dantehicks

Do you have a demo of the backend? Would like to see what the analytics dashboard and builder features look like.

YellowGreenMedia

My question would be: what would you do if you have sold a 100 mobile sites and one of these services goes belly up, what do you do them, my guess is that you're in a world of hurt... to much risk for to be honest, on the internet no company is to big to fail

WillR

1. Get rid of monthly fees -- you shouldn't need to be paying them.

2. Beware of Pinjz. They were caught creating fake accounts and complimenting themselves on this very forum. If they are willing to do that, then you simply can't trust them.

3. Yes, I recommend JumpMobi. You won't beat it for price and features. End of story.

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WillR

No, not at all.

I am as involved in JumpMobi as the people who recommend Aweber are involved in Aweber... or the people who recommend Hostgator are involved in Hostgator.

It's simply a product by a fellow Warrior that I use and recommend.

I make NOTHING by telling you I like JumpMobi.

So... use JumpMobi.

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