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| From Wired Magazine. I confess I know nothing about sms marketing. I have always thought it was local marketing. There are not many current learning ads on this subject either.
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17th Mar 2014, 11:20 AM | #2 |
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yes sms is better than mobile apps because apps dos not give the proper way but the sms will gives you the proper way
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17th Mar 2014, 11:25 AM | #3 |
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I agree with rjdoll77, sms is the best always works well. Apps can have issues.
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The thing about mobile apps is a user can delete the app anytime and ignore the app on there phone if not deleted. SMS is a message service and its a true fact that people will open and look at a text within the first few minutes of getting a sms text message. sms comes in different forms of marketing. Like for example you can have and use an sms mobile phone App. There are loyalty Apps that keep control of savings discounts and visits and awards for local businesses and have sms service built into the App. There are also mobile websites that have sms opt in and opt out pages and the admin side has an sms message system to send messages. I found using just an sms service to have people opt in and you send messages containing discounts, promotions and savings are best to use because your not relying on a user to use an app! It all come down to preference of the client and what they want to use for their business. Some clients like the idea of being different and having their own mobile App while others do not care! So we must be prepared and have in our toolbox the different solutions to offer the client! |
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SMS is a good way of sending message now a days most especially to community niches. | |
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SMS all the way. I think the key component here is 2-way communication. We're exposed to advertisements all day everyday for products and services that we have no interest in. But if you're able to actually speak to a real human about a solution you have for their problem, they'll thank you instead of resenting you. Different marketing systems are starting to integrate SMS but it's only in the form of a blast like an email broadcast. So if you find a platform that also allows the consumer to ask questions via sms, you'll be better off.
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This is a senseless argument given the stated question. Is a hammer better than a flathead screwdriver? Same difference. It all comes down to what you are trying to accomplish. Every business does not need a mobile app. Every business does not need SMS. Some will need both. The cost of customer acquisition is a big factor in determining what might work best for them. I have apps with 10,000+ downloads (zero spent on marketing) just based on downloads from Google Play and iTunes. I can use Push Notifications to market to those customers. I cannot imagine the cost of getting 10,000 people on my SMS list, much less the cost for every SMS message sent. Give me a more specific hypothetical question and I think we can have a better discussion on whether SMS is better than mobile apps for THAT situation. |
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If the customer base for the business is local or regional then SMS is the way to go. If their customers are across the US. Then look to the details of the campaign. Apps can take the upper hand.
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SMS in my opinion allows for businesses to cast a wider net as only their loyal customers will be interested enough to download their app. For everyone else, they will have a higher chance of having the customer opt in via mobile keyword to receive some sort of instore coupon.
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Don't you think that sms are considered to be spam nowadays?
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That's what I was thinking too. At first sight, SMS is better because it is direct and it's right there for the person to read it, while the app requires an additional effort. However, it depends on the business profile, and sometimes they both work well just fine. |
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Both are different tools. Not sure one can compare this. SMS is low cost, high & instant reach. It is kind of "DIRECT" Tool . Where as app is more brand extension created on mobile as well , where your customers are spending time. Eg: Newspaper , if they do not create apps , the customer will move to another newspaper apps. thus other corporation will have ability to market other extensions. This is kind of Television. Small Biz with help of APPS has as ability to reach mass audience. Cost will again dependent upon the tools you have used. HTML apps can be cost effective in comparison to Native apps. Amit |
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SMS is far better. just think the people who dont use smartphones so, no app at all. This is the reason with SMS you can reach at your potential customer end.
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Hi, I'd say apps. Sms marketing used to be an effective tool (it still is), but now trends are shifting to app(s). Nowadays brands are taking it seriously. You can count on it. |
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Yes SMS is better than the mobile apps because sms dons't matter on mobile networks.
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My vote is for SMS. I'm using it for my business. I found a great company which can offer me cheap but reliable SMS service
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yes i think that mobile massage is better than mobile applications.main factor is that in mobile applications cell have not enough memory but applications are more heavy.and i think that sms service is much better than other
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Here is why a lot of companies are moving toward APPS, instead of SMS. 1. The Telephone Consumer Protection Act source The Telephone Consumer Protection Act (TCPA) regulates any means “to communicate with or try to get into communication with a person by telephone.” TCPA has some strict-opt in requirements—namely, that consent must:
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Absolutely i will suggest you for SMS. Because SMS is less expensive than other mobile apps. You may choose it right way..
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Of-course message is the best because it can be sent and received from any mobile phone while mobile app can not do this.
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Definitely something to consider here is how effective will SMS continue to be. The FTC, has seriously restricted SMS marketing, by simply doing one thing. Requiring in Writing, (electronic signatures is not in writing) An agreement with the recipient of the SMS. Meaning that you would need to get it in writing, that you are allowed to send out an SMS message, (now that is in the US) since this forum is international, some of you will likely not be affected by this marketing nightmare. In an Application, you have many more opportunities, since Push Notifications are not regulated, in the same was as SMS, (at least not yet) Then at least in the US, that makes an application much more viable. Take it one step further, In an Application, you can encrypt and store, information on the device, meaning you have the opportunity to actually build a place to do business on that users device. (If your application is useful and valuable to the end user, then you can market just about anything) If your application is a nuisance of little value and does not provide content that is useful to the consumer then your app will probably not stay around long. Its really all about what you do with the opportunity you have. |
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In regards to the prior written consent form of this discussion, here is a line taken from the FCC website: Telephone Consumer Protection Act of 1991 | FCC.gov "The Commission also concluded that consent obtained in compliance with the E-SIGN Act will satisfy the requirements of its revised rule, including permission obtained via an email, website form, text message, telephone keypress, or voice recording." To me this is stating that when you have your customer opt in and then confirm that they are opting in, that would satisfy the requirement of written consent. I'm not a lawyer, so please check with your attorney before taking action on this. Just trying to provide some additional info to the conversation. |
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Well, In Peru, my country at the first sing of an sms with advertisement we delete it.
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seriousbiz what is better is you combine both as they have different benefits.
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SMS is better as it reliably notifies the customers.
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I cant see SMS being better, infact I hate SMS marketing, I feel less in control and reply with the STOP reply straight away. If your apps add some use to the user then apps is the way for sure
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SMS is a message service and its a true fact that people will open and look at a text within the first few minutes of getting a sms text message. sms comes in different forms of marketing. Like for example you can have and use an sms mobile phone App. There are loyalty Apps that keep control of savings discounts and visits and awards for local businesses and have sms service built into the App. There are also mobile websites that have sms opt in and opt out pages and the admin side has an sms message system to send messages. |
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I've been using YadaText software since 2008 and have never had a problem and have never paid for a text message. I know all the arguments about smtp but if you search Google, you'll not find one complaint ... Verizon just recently printed an article teaching their customers how to send text messages from the computer. The main issue against mms markting (email to text format) is spam. YadaText solved that issue years ago. This is not a promotional reply since YadaText is now free to use and will soon be on download.com You can get your own copy from the website and test it for yourself. What Steve French has to say in the OP is absolutely true. I've worked closely with over 175 clients personally over the last 6 years who can testify to the simplicity of the program. I've always made more 100 times more money selling the service over selling the software which is why it is now free.
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Again this all refers to spam. The act itself was written in 1991 and the words sms and text were not even listed until the recent additions were added in October 2013. Here is the link the that...- New TCPA Rules Effective October 16, 2013 You have nothing to worry about as long as your customers have opted in and requested to be added to your list. YadaText has been doing it for hundreds of people in 14 states since 2008. Redbox does it as well as many of the largest companies in the world. Text message marketing is only getting bigger. When you read the report it states that online forms are the same as " in writing."
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The YadaText Software was sold for the last 5 years. I just do not have the time to support users who do not understand basic html. FTP, databases and cron jobs. There is no money selling the software. You'll find most merchants will be happy to pay you to handle it for them. It's like SEO or Social Media Management. The merchant needs to manage their business and hire the right people to handle their IT. | |
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Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, so you are doing what they COULD do, but are to lazy. It's been a long time since I have looked into SMS. What do you think of 2 way SMS?
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AUKev has got the right idea - it isn't so much about "which is better" as it is about "what do you want to accomplish?" It might not be possible to reach as many people (like, 10,000) with SMS, whereas you could do that with an app. On the other hand, probably only a very small amount of the people who receive the app advertisement will make you money - the people who have opted-in to the SMS service are interested in received advertising and information about new products, services, deals, offers, etc. But I think SMS marketing is a very powerful tool regardless. |
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With the TCPA regulations, they are coming down very hard on SPAM via SMS. At fines of $1,500 per unsolicited text message for not opting in their recipients, most spammers have been turned away and the thought of the hefty fines for running a sms mobile text marketing campaign to numbers that have not opted in properly.
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ALSO, the FTC has no power to determine your guilt or levy a fine. The only function they have is to levy a complaint. The complaint is not a finding or ruling that the defendant has actually violated the law. The cases will be decided by the court. If you are reading this, the odds are again about 1 in a million you will ever be noticed. It takes hundreds of complaints before someone even thinks about looking at it. I'm not putting a stamp of approval on SPAM by any means. I just do not think anyone who is on this forum has any need to be concerned. Most all of us use a system that far exceeds the fair practice rule. | |
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Developing mobile app is a great way to increase the business sales. So according to me, Mobil app is better than SMS
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Even if you don't get "caught" by the FTC, it's nevertheless wise to ask yourself what you hope to gain by spamming people with text messages. Really, you could earn much more by taking a bit more time to craft a legitimate, opted-in list of people who WANT to receive your text messages. Spam is shit, to be honest. And it makes the person sending it feel like scum, if they have a moral compass.
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Text messaging has greater reach than mobile apps. That’s because mobile apps lack a vital feature of text messaging: simplicity. There are thousands of mobile apps. But none of them will get in touch with an individual in the same personable manner as a text message.
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Text Marketing allows timely delivery of information. Happy hours or discount coupons are some of the best offers can be provided to the customers. Promotions,Schedules,QR codes and contests are the best things to do.
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I know a few people who are doing well selling apps to businesses but how many apps can a person have on their phone? After awhile, people start deleting them from their phones unless they truly love the company that the app is connected with. Now as far as SMS marketing, I believe that's the future. I love email marketing and will always build my lists, but I believe we will see a surge on platforms that build an SMS data base for sure.
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I am an affiliate marketer and I have been looking for effective ways to get my product out to my target market. After reading everyone's input on witch is better "sms" or "apps". I have decided to test out both the SMS (staying within the guidelines of the spamming laws) and the apps to see witch on yields the best results. Thanks to everyone here on this form. |
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they both have different value.
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For me mobile app works better. First it can strengthen and keeps your brand stay on top. Second you can track and control the data through internet which gives you quick results.
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The only issue that I have come across before is that an SMS seems ‘invasive’ to some users whereas others feel as though an app is something they installed themselves, therefore it should not be a problem to provide them with more information about your service or product. But yeah, you cannot beat SMS for effectiveness.
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Hi A 2 way sms platform with cell phone verified leads is the way to go . Here's some Mobile Statistics to consider: → 97% of text messages are opened vs. 5% of emails → 83% of text messages are opened immediately → 91% of adults keep their smartphones within arm’s reach. → 82% of Americans don't leave home without their cell phones → There are 6.8 billion people on the planet at present, & 4 billion own mobile phones. (But only 3.5 million use a toothbrush! → Over 82 percent of U.S. adults own a cellphone! → 4.1 Billion text messages are sent daily → Mobile users will out number PC users by 2013 Marketers, the numbers don't lie! So...Will these Facts influence your decisions to Go Mobile during 2014 and beyond? Thanks Shaun |
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