Patent For An Ebola "Zombie Vaccine"?

10 years ago

That's the virus patent - it would allow research, etc, on the virus.

The Vaccine is being developed/manufactured by a pharm: Tekmira - and it's partner: Monsanto. The gov has subsidized them.

You couldn't even make this crap up.

From NASDAQ:

.... For starters, the company has a $140 million contract from the U.S. Department of Defense to develop the drug, which shows the company will make money for bringing TKM-Ebola to fruition even if it doesn't prove to be a commercial success.

But there is more to the Tekmira story: The company specializes in the field of gene silencing -- also known as RNA interference, or RNAi -- that could well have blockbuster potential.

Tekmira also has a partnership with agricultural giant Monsanto (NYSE: MON ) for use of Tekmira's proprietary lipid nanoparticle delivery technology and intellectual property. The potential application for gene silencing in agriculture -- especially where more disease- or drought-resistant crops might be the result -- could be remarkable.........

Peaceful dreams.

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sbucciarel

Banned 10 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

I shared this with a friend of mine and he really believes that there's going to be a Zombie Apocalypse. If you watched the movie World War Z, you know that rabies is what sparked the pandemic.

Wow ... now I'm really scared. Your friend believes there's going to a Zombie Apocalypse and you saw a movie. Geeeesh ... I think I'll run to the food store and buy everything in it and just never leave the property again.

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gregdavidson727

10 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

Wow ... now I'm really scared. Your friend believes there's going to a Zombie Apocalypse and you saw a movie. Geeeesh ... I think I'll run to the food store and buy everything in it and just never leave the property again.

I'm not scared of the undead. At least I don't think I am. After I stockpile on a few more thousand rounds of ammo, I should be prepared for the worst. I'll just need to learn how to sleep with my eyes open.

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Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

I'm not scared of the undead.
... I'll just need to learn how to sleep with my eyes open.

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ThomM

10 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

I'm not scared of the undead. At least I don't think I am. After I stockpile on a few more thousand rounds of ammo, I should be prepared for the worst. I'll just need to learn how to sleep with my eyes open.

You're doing it wrong. The noise from the gun shot will just attract more zombies.

That's why I stick to machete's, baseball bats and this

Slingshot Zombiehammer with Skull Ejector -...

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gregdavidson727

10 years ago

Originally Posted by ThomM

You're doing it wrong. The noise from the gun shot will just attract more zombies.

That's why I stick to machete's, baseball bats and this

Slingshot Zombiehammer with Skull Ejector - YouTube

A .22lr subsonic hollow point round could kill a zombie without making much noise. You just have to go for the head. I have about 500 rounds of the Eley brand in stock.

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HeySal

10 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

A .22lr subsonic hollow point round could kill a zombie without making much noise. You just have to go for the head. I have about 500 rounds of the Eley brand in stock.

Well, ya just have to understand Thom. See how that melon exploded when it was hit with the slingshot? Yeah. Now you "get" it. Thom's kinda funny like that.

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gregdavidson727

10 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

Well, ya just have to understand, Thom. See how that melon exploded when it was hit with the slingshot? Yeah. Now you "get" it. Thom's kinda funny like that.

I don't like the idea of killing a zombie at close quarters because I may get some infected zombie blood in my mouth or eyes. And what if the virus goes airborne? If that happens, walking within 20 feet of a zombie could lead to infection. Airborne viruses can linger in the air for hours so if you have thousands of zombies running around like crazy in your neighborhood, it may not be safe to go out at all.

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

I don't like the idea of killing a zombie at close quarters because I may get some infected zombie blood in my mouth or eyes. And what if the virus goes airborne? If that happens, walking within 20 feet of a zombie could lead to infection. Airborne viruses can linger in the air for hours so if you have thousands of zombies running around like crazy in your neighborhood, it may not be safe to go out at all.

Be honest. Do you really think there are zombies, or that we could create them?

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gregdavidson727

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

Be honest. Do you really think there are zombies, or that we could create them?

I don't think it's a question of whether or not we're capable of creating a virus that can turn people into zombies. Scientists are fully capable of carrying out that task simply by modifying and combining various types of viruses such as rabies. It's the perfect weapon against enemy nations. And unlike nuclear weapons, you don't have to worry about radiation. The big question is whether that apocalyptic weapon will ever be used for other purposes. For the past 20 years, all we've been hearing about on the news is this argument about climate change and how overpopulation is the root cause. Could a zombie virus be the solution to that problem?

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Cali16

10 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

Scientists are fully capable of carrying out that task simply by modifying and combining various types of viruses such as rabies.

So, you're saying scientists know how to create a specific virus that kills people, and causes them to come back to life and eat the living as well. Saying they are "fully capable" of doing this and actually having done it are two entirely different things.

If you can show some proof of this, I'd love to see it. Otherwise, I'm inclined to think you watch waaaaayyyy too many zombie movies and TV shows and are confusing fiction with reality...

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by Cali16

So, you're saying scientists know how to create a specific virus that kills people, and causes them to come back to life and eat the living as well. Saying they are "fully capable" of doing this and actually having done it are two entirely different things.

If you can show some proof of this, I'd love to see it. Otherwise, I'm inclined to think you watch waaaaayyyy too many zombie movies and TV shows and are confusing fiction with reality...

I'm talking about real zombies here. Obviously, you can't bring people back from the dead. But you can create a deadly virus that makes people run around like crazed, hyper drug addicts. A modified human form of rabies could do that. Did you read about that guy in Miami who ate another guy's face off? That's what I'm talking about. If you throw Ebola and other filoviruses into the mix, the virus becomes deadly. So basically, the modified rabies makes them lose their minds and the filoviruses that are combined with the rabies leads to certain death.

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

I'm talking about real zombies here. Obviously, you can't bring people back from the dead. But you can create a deadly virus that makes people run around like crazed, hyper drug addicts.

Then you're not talking about "zombies" at all, now are you?

All the definitions of the term "zombie" refer to a re-animated corpse of some type - not a "crazed" living person. Not the same thing at all. I don't think most people would call a crazed person with rabies (or any other virus that causes them to act bizarrely) a zombie.

Good to know, though, that you don't actually believe in zombies. Your earlier posts suggested otherwise.

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gregdavidson727

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Cali16

Then you're not talking about "zombies" at all, now are you?

All the definitions of the term "zombie" refer to a "living" corpse of some type - not a "crazed" living person. Not the same thing at all. I don't think most people would call a crazed person with rabies (or any other virus that causes them to act bizarrely) a zombie.

Good to know, though, that you don't actually believe in zombies. Your earlier posts suggested otherwise.

You're thinking about "old school" zombies. The zombies in the latest movies such as 28 Days Later don't come back from the dead. What I find really interesting is that their eyes are bloodshot and they spit out blood. External bleeding is one of the symptoms of Ebola because it turns all of your internal organs to mush. So if you combine a virus like Ebola with a modified human form of rabies, you have a real-life zombie.

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Claude Whitacre

10 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

You're thinking about "old school" zombies. The zombies in the latest movies such as 28 Days Later don't come back from the dead. What I find really interesting is that their eyes are bloodshot and they spit out blood. External bleeding is one of the symptoms of Ebola because it turns all of your internal organs to mush. So if you combine a virus like Ebola with a modified human form of rabies, you have a real-life zombie.

I think you just redefined what a Zombie is. If you asked 100 people on he streets what a zombie is, your definition wouldn't be one of them.

Could someone create a virus that spreads quickly, that turns us into raving lunatics..before killing us? Probably.

But that isn't what I'd call a zombie...or what shows up, when you look up the word "Zombie".

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Dan Riffle

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

But that isn't what I'd call a zombie...or what shows up, when you look up the word "Zombie".

There's been a shift in the zeitgeist to include what Greg is talking about.

28 Days Later - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You're just too old and not hip with the scene.

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Claude Whitacre

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan Riffle

There's been a shift in the zeitgeist to include what Greg is talking about.

28 Days Later - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You're just too old and not hip with the scene.

I want to apologize to Greg. I didn't know about the zeitgeist shift.

I wish people still liked me. You young people, with your Rock and Roll...Your MTV.....and your marijuana.

Stay off my lawn.

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

I think you just redefined what a Zombie is. If you asked 100 people on he streets what a zombie is, your definition wouldn't be one of them.

Could someone create a virus that spreads quickly, that turns us into raving lunatics..before killing us? Probably.

But that isn't what I'd call a zombie...or what shows up, when you look up the word "Zombie".

I don't know about all 100. Lots of Americans have watched the movies 28 Days Later, Resident Evil and World War Z. Probably half of the people you ask will define a "zombie" as a crazed human being who has been infected with a virus such as rabies.

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

I don't know about all 100. Lots of Americans have watched the movies 28 Days Later, Resident Evil and World War Z. Probably half of the people you ask will define a "zombie" as a crazed human being who has been infected with a virus such as rabies.

And they would also say that the Zombie has no higher brain functions. Stumbling around, until they smell a human....that they want to kill or eat.

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gregdavidson727

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

And they would also say that the Zombie has no higher brain functions. Stumbling around, until they smell a human....that they want to kill or eat.

That's precisely what the "zombie virus" does. It destroys the parts of the brain that make people think and behave like human beings. All that's left is an aggressive, ravenous creature that has no purpose in life other than to find food. They also have very little memory which means that any attempts to talk your "old friend" out of eating you for lunch will be futile.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

That's precisely what the "zombie virus" does. It destroys the parts of the brain that make people think and behave like human beings. All that's left is an aggressive, ravenous creature that has no purpose in life other than to find food. They also have very little memory which means that any attempts to talk your "old friend" out of eating you for lunch will be futile.

Sounds like a politician.

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by Cali16

If you can show some proof of this, I'd love to see it. Otherwise, I'm inclined to think you watch waaaaayyyy too many zombie movies and TV shows and are confusing fiction with reality...

Denying that scientists are capable of manufacturing a "zombie-like" virus is like saying that it's impossible to split an atom. It's already been done. And plus, viruses can be modified and PATENTED. Look up "virus patents" if you don't believe me. You can't patent something unless it's your own invention.

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

I don't like the idea of killing a zombie at close quarters because I may get some infected zombie blood in my mouth or eyes. And what if the virus goes airborne? If that happens, walking within 20 feet of a zombie could lead to infection. Airborne viruses can linger in the air for hours so if you have thousands of zombies running around like crazy in your neighborhood, it may not be safe to go out at all.

So ... shooting them with a rifle/shotgun/machine gun not only kills the zombie, it also kills the virus as well.

Sheesh.

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ThomM 10 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

Well, ya just have to understand, Thom. See how that melon exploded when it was hit with the slingshot? Yeah. Now you "get" it. Thom's kinda funny like that.

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10 years ago

Doomsday Preppers niche, hmmm... Hoard mentality or Horde mentality: You decide.

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Originally Posted by Rick Rodd

Doomsday Preppers niche, hmmm... Hoard mentality or Horde mentality: You decide.

There's a lot of money to be made in that niche. Maybe you can tell me where to buy some .22lr ammo. I need about 50,000 rounds.
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10 years ago

In literal terms, using the commonly used REAL DAY TO DAY meaning of zombie. I mean there actually IS a computer term referring to a ZOMBIE process, and acting like a zombie does NOT mean you are eating brains. Zombie actually has effectively 3 meanings:

1. The meaning I am using here. ALSO used in computers, and it may even show up in a unix process list! Windows has the same thing, but refers to it by description, rather than by name.
2. The one where a witchdoctor has taken advantage of someone that is subject to meaning number 1!
3. The movie meaning, where someone is a certain creature that happens to have the attributes of #1!

And if I use the often understood meaning of apocalypse. AGAIN, it has three meanings!

1. It ACTUALLY means revelation. I guess someone thought they should keep the original name of the book of the bible, and people took apocalypse to mean what the book was about rather than the actual name referring to what it was.
2. It may often be understood to mean the end of EVERYTHING!
3. The end of life substantially as we know it.

There WILL be a zombie(1) apocalypse(3)! It is happening NOW! We have seen demonstrations of it! I really could say a whole lot more here, but..... YEAH, you don't want zombies getting angry. They are never pleasant when they are angry.

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Rick Rodd

10 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

In literal terms, using the commonly used REAL DAY TO DAY meaning of zombie. I mean there actually IS a computer term referring to a ZOMBIE process, and acting like a zombie does NOT mean you are eating brains. Zombie actually has effectively 3 meanings:

1. The meaning I am using here. ALSO used in computers, and it may even show up in a unix process list! Windows has the same thing, but refers to it by description, rather than by name.
2. The one where a witchdoctor has taken advantage of someone that is subject to meaning number 1!
3. The movie meaning, where someone is a certain creature that happens to have the attributes of #1!

And if I use the often understood meaning of apocalypse. AGAIN, it has three meanings!

1. It ACTUALLY means revelation. I guess someone thought they should keep the original name of the book of the bible, and people took apocalypse to mean what the book was about rather than the actual name referring to what it was.
2. It may often be understood to mean the end of EVERYTHING!
3. The end of life substantially as we know it.

There WILL be a zombie(1) apocalypse(3)! It is happening NOW! We have seen demonstrations of it! I really could say a whole lot more here, but..... YEAH, you don't want zombies getting angry. They are never pleasant when they are angry.

Steve

The only zombies I know for real and much concerned about are:

1. Season 5 Walking Dead
2. Cocktail Variant

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Originally Posted by Rick Rodd

The only zombies I know for real and much concerned about are:

1. Season 5 Walking Dead
2. Cocktail Variant

The kind I am talking about might as well be walking dead. And they probably DO love cocktails!

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

I'm talking about the fact that Ebola is in this country because the president failed to issue a travel ban. I wouldn't be surprised if the United States fell off the face of the earth due to his incompetence.

The important thing here, is that you aren't making unsubstantiated claims, based on your own prejudices. So far, I'm quite proud of you.

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Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

like Obola,...

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

In literal terms, using the commonly used REAL DAY TO DAY meaning of zombie. I mean there actually IS a computer term referring to a ZOMBIE process, and acting like a zombie does NOT mean you are eating brains. Zombie actually has effectively 3 meanings:

1. The meaning I am using here. ALSO used in computers, and it may even show up in a unix process list! Windows has the same thing, but refers to it by description, rather than by name.
2. The one where a witchdoctor has taken advantage of someone that is subject to meaning number 1!
3. The movie meaning, where someone is a certain creature that happens to have the attributes of #1!

And if I use the often understood meaning of apocalypse. AGAIN, it has three meanings!

1. It ACTUALLY means revelation. I guess someone thought they should keep the original name of the book of the bible, and people took apocalypse to mean what the book was about rather than the actual name referring to what it was.
2. It may often be understood to mean the end of EVERYTHING!
3. The end of life substantially as we know it.

There WILL be a zombie(1) apocalypse(3)! It is happening NOW! We have seen demonstrations of it! I really could say a whole lot more here, but..... YEAH, you don't want zombies getting angry. They are never pleasant when they are angry.

Steve

Combine bath salts, beer and Viagra. There you go. Zombie.

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Rick Rodd

10 years ago

...And that good 'ol Cranberries song, which talks about the horrors of war.

What's in your head...
What's in your head....

Brains!!!

Zombies need brains, coz well, you know--to get away from the Horde Mentality. The ironic thing is, they need it from the living, to go out of their way to crack open a thick skull.

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by Rick Rodd

...And that good 'ol Cranberries song, which talks about the horrors of war.

What's in your head...
What's in your head....

Brains!!!

Zombies need brains, coz well, you know--to get away from the Horde Mentality. The ironic thing is, they need it from the living, to go out of their way to crack open a thick skull.

WOW, MORE similarities to what I am talking about! If you changed a few words, everyone here would se something so simple and obvious, that is happening TODAY, that it is SCARY!

Steve

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gregdavidson727

10 years ago

Here's an article about the Miami cannibal attack. Everybody assumed that this guy was high on bath salts. The Miami medical examiner said he wasn't high on any drugs. With the exception of drugs, what would give somebody the urge to eat another person's face off? Where was the attacker prior to this incident? If he was that crazy when he got up in the morning, the attack would have occurred somewhere closer to his home.

Miami cannibal victim recounts brutal attack for first time - U.S. News

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HeySal

10 years ago

Well, first off - I don't think it takes a communicable virus for me to decide it's safer to stay inside if there's zombies running all over the neighborhood.

One guy eating someone's face is called a crazed lunatic - not a zombie apocalypse. Remember that serial killer decades back (I think his name was Dahmer or something similar) that was killing people, cooking, and eating them? How many people do you think ended up asking for human stew for dinner? Madmen exist and always have.

Second - why would gov need something crazy like this to cull populations? We have Monsanto - food that sterilizes and causes cancer, etc. We also have rampant geoengineering. Of course, most countries have outlawed that...the US hasn't though and Monsanto has it's hand in that now, too. Then there's Monsanto's hand in making vaccines, which to me is almost a guarantee we'll have the virus.

We also have viruses at a few military bases that are 100% lethal within a certain radius (I think it's 40 miles). They burn out in a matter of hours so you have to be right there when they drop it. Then of course, we have the UNs Project 21, which even I thought was "conspiracy theory" for a long darned time till congress started talking openly about it. That will force people into close quarters with each other so you won't have as many who can stay away from population centers easily, so great breeding ground for any virus, any terrorist that walks the pike.

I guess what I'm saying my take on it is, that with dense population centers, viruses, geoengineering, poisonous food, terrorist........um........why would anyone think they need zombies with viruses to kill of the excess population? They're doing just fine already.

We don't need to make up horror stories to watch things get real scary.

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Claude Whitacre

10 years ago

Those *******s at Monsanto. Do you think that everyone there, realizes that they are the same as THRUSH, SPECTRE, Lex Luthor, Professor Moriarty, and HYDRA?

Do they have meetings, where they just sit around and think of ways to destroy the world?

Is the company truly evil, or just everyone that works there? What about the people that sell office supplies to Monsanto? Are they in on it too?

Seriously. Proctor and Gamble has to go too. And Campbells. Their soup was sold by...The Soup Nazi. These connections are starting to make sense.

"Two Scoops Of Raisins" in every box of Raisin Bran? I found out that they were actually...dehydrated grapes. Hydrogenically modified grapes. You do the math.

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

Those *******s at Monsanto. Do you think that everyone there, realizes that they are the same as THRUSH, SPECTRE, Lex Luthor, Professor Moriarty, and HYDRA?

Do they have meetings, where they just sit around and think of ways to destroy the world?

Is the company truly evil, or just everyone that works there? What about the people that sell office supplies to Monsanto? Are they in on it too?

Seriously. Proctor and Gamble has to go too. And Campbells. Their soup was sold by...The Soup Nazi. These connections are starting to make sense.

"Two Scoops Of Raisins" in every box of Raisin Bran? I found out that they were actually...dehydrated grapes. Hydrogenically modified grapes. You do the math.

Not quite as funny as you think it is, Claude. Lex Luther was a boyscout compared to Monsanto. Catch up, will ya? Monsanto left the "conspiracy theory" level about a decade ago.

Oh and - yes, raison bran still uses real grapes. I wouldn't count on finding any real fruit in those "dehydrated" fruit cereals though. Lots of pretty chemicals for you to look up on a USDS data sheet, though. Look up your next ear of Monsanto corn on the FDA, too. You will find it listed as a pesticide. Yum.

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Claude Whitacre

10 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

Not quite as funny as you think it is, Claude. Lex Luther was a boyscout compared to Monsanto. Catch up, will ya? Monsanto left the "conspiracy theory" level about a decade ago.

Oh and - yes, raison bran still uses real grapes. I wouldn't count on finding any real fruit in those "dehydrated" fruit cereals though. Lots of pretty chemicals for you to look up on a USDS data sheet, though. Look up your next ear of Monsanto corn on the FDA, too. You will find it listed as a pesticide. Yum.

I actually read the ingredients on the side of the box. More, and more, I'm putting the box (or can) back.

Unless it's corn, grown from Monsanto kernels. I want Super Powers. It's Monsanto, or radioactive waste....something is going to make me glow in the dark.

The "Two scoops of raisins" in every box of raisin bran? I measured....that's pre-dehydration volume....so it's really "two scoops of grapes"

And that's the way they get you.

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10 years ago

Claude, dear, with that very nice, opulent forehead of yours, I suspect you already glow in the dark....

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by Cali16

Claude, dear, with that very nice, opulent forehead of yours, I suspect you already glow in the dark....

I've never had the word Opulent used to describe a part of me before. Corpulent..yes, but not opulent.

And this is a Zombie thread. My head is so big, it must look like a buffet to a zombie...

You know, brains and all that.

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

I've never had the word Opulent used to describe a part of me before. Corpulent..yes, but not opulent.

And this is a Zombie thread. My head is so big, it must look like a buffet to a zombie...

You know, brains and all that.

Lol! Well, two synonyms for opulent are "magnificent" and "grand" - I thought they were fitting...

On The Walking Dead (my best reference as I've never been a fan of zombie movies), they don't really go for the brains. The zombies - or "walkers", rather - on that show aren't picky like that...

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan Riffle

There's been a shift in the zeitgeist to include what Greg is talking about.

28 Days Later - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You're just too old and not hip with the scene.

Pfffffttt! If they haven't died first, they're not zombies!

(I get my facts from TWD, btw!!)

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Cali16

Pfffffttt! If they haven't died first, they're not zombies!

(I get my facts from TWD, btw!!)

If the parts of the brain that make you "human" are no longer functioning, you're technically dead. All because you can run around and growl at people doesn't make you human.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

If the parts of the brain that make you "human" are no longer functioning, you're technically dead. All because you can run around and growl at people doesn't make you human.

You really, really, really, really, really want Zombies to be real, don't you.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

You really, really, really, really, really want Zombies to be real, don't you.

I have absolutely no doubt that they do exist. We humans fail to recognize that the only thing that really differentiates us from the animals in the zoo are our brains. If you mess around enough with a human brain, you can transform a person into an aggressive, thoughtless beast known by many as a "zombie". Throw Ebola into the mix and you have the zombie spitting out blood, just like in the movies.

One of the zombies from the movie Word War Z...

World War Z - Black zombie lady - YouTube

The opening scene from the movie 28 Weeks Later...

28 Weeks Later - English Opening Scene - YouTube

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

I have absolutely no doubt that they do exist.

One of the zombies from the movie World War Z...

The opening scene from the movie 28 Weeks Later...

It must be real.

Greg just showed clips from some films.

It must be real.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Richard Van

It must be real.

Greg just showed clips from some films.

It must be real.

Are you saying it isn't possible? Think hard.

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Are you saying it isn't possible? Think hard.

We have..........
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9 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

Are you saying it isn't possible? Think hard.

I can't believe I'm typing these words to a real human being....
Yes, we're saying it isn't possible. At least I am. Sorry, I read silly things here every day. But there has got to be a bottom to the silliness. I think zombies qualify. Although, I did actually hear two teenage girls, ask a librarian where the books on real vampires were. And they were upset when the librarian just said "There aren't real vampires".

Well, There aren't real zombies.

I'll be honest, until you came here, I didn't even think anyone on the planet would believe that Zombies exist..or could.

Of course, I didn't believe anyone thought that people lived on Mars either. But we have a couple of true believers here.

You'll find out all kinds of interesting things here. Just blame Big Pharma, Monsanto, NASA, the Illuminati, or Luthorcorp....and you'll do well here. And YELL in words THAT are all CAPITOL LETTERS. That will make the zombies sound far MORE reasonable.

By the way, the minimum age to be a member is 18. Just a reminder.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

I can't believe I'm typing these words to a real human being....
Yes, we're saying it isn't possible. At least I am. Sorry, I read silly things here every day. But there has got to be a bottom to the silliness. I think zombies qualify. Although, I did actually hear two teenage girls, ask a librarian where the books on real vampires were. And they were upset when the librarian just said "There aren't real vampires".

Well, There aren't real zombies.

I'll be honest, until you came here, I didn't even think anyone on the planet would believe that Zombies exist..or could.

Of course, I didn't believe anyone thought that people lived on Mars either. But we have a couple of true believers here.

You'll find out all kinds of interesting things here. Just blame Big Pharma, Monsanto, NASA, the Illuminati, or Luthorcorp....and you'll do well here. And YELL in words THAT are all CAPITOL LETTERS. That will make the zombies sound far MORE reasonable.

By the way, the minimum age to be a member is 18. Just a reminder.

Claude, let's say you're a super-rich trillionaire who secretly controls the entire world from the background. You believe that humans are destroying the planet you love, so you decide that the solution to your problem is to "cull the herd". Your goal is to reduce the population of the world from 7.2 billion down to about 500 million. How would you accomplish that goal without alerting "the herd" to what you're up to?

Obviously, nuclear weapons wouldn't work because you would destroy the planet that you're trying to save. Even an extremely deadly airborne Ebola virus wouldn't work because it wouldn't kill enough people. Millions would die but the virus would eventually be contained. You would need a virus far deadlier than airborne Ebola.

A zombie virus is the ONLY VIRUS that fits the bill. In almost every single zombie movie, most of the world's population gets wiped out in a matter of weeks or even days. Nobody would realize what's happening until it's too late and it's impossible to fight back. With a zombie virus, you can even persuade a country's military to bomb its own cities in an effort to contain the virus. It is PERFECT for reducing the population.

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9 years ago

I watched Jurassic Park yesterday and I think if we could get those dinosaurs to invade places, this could thin the herd nicely.

I also saw The Matrix too and that looks a great way of keeping everyone, no need to 'thin the herd' - just shove them in a plasma bubble and hey presto, free electricity.

Also I was watching the Walking Dead documentary yesterday where they follow a guy called 'Rick' who has a funny American accent. That part of America is now over run with Zombies but the humans are fighting back. Basically, the virus may not be enough and the humans left afterwards may be a bit aggressive to fit back into society.

Failing that there is of course Harry Potter.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Richard Van

I watched Jurassic Park yesterday and I think if we could get those dinosaurs to invade places, this could thin the herd nicely.

I also saw The Matrix too and that looks a great way of keeping everyone, no need to 'thin the herd' - just shove them in a plasma bubble and hey presto, free electricity.

Also I was watching the Walking Dead documentary yesterday where they follow a guy called 'Rick' who has a funny American accent. That part of America is now over run with Zombies but the humans are fighting back. Basically, the virus may not be enough and the humans left afterwards may be a bit aggressive to fit back into society.

Failing that there is of course Harry Potter.

You're not going to be joking when it really happens.

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Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

You're not going to be joking when it really happens.

Jokes are fun and I like fun. Sorry you're worried about this but I want to enjoy the Walking Dead, not think it's real. Each to there own though.

Also, lets just say there isn't a trillionaire that controls the world and doesn't want to thin the herd.

That is a possibility.
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9 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

You're not going to be joking when it really happens.

Wanna bet?

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

Wanna bet?

Sure, an ounce of gold. Let's shake on it.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

Sure, an ounce of gold. Let's shake on it.

Not enough to make it worth my time. Let's make it a $trillion.

Plus, I don't want gold, it's worthless in a true apocolypse. You can't eat it and people can't tell if it's real or fake, so it will have zero barter value. You will need some sort of social order for gold to have any value.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

Not enough to make it worth my time. Let's make it a

Let's bet a bunch of paper. Do you accept Zimbabwe dollars? If not, then you shouldn't accept U.S. dollars either because it's going to be just as worthless a few years from now.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

Let's bet a bunch of paper. Do you accept Zimbabwe dollars? If not, then you shouldn't accept the U.S. dollar either because it's going to be just as useless a few years from now.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...09_Obverse.jpg

Let's bet some worthless shiny stuff instead?

BTW, your offer for a bet is one of the dumbest I've ever seen, on so many levels.

Let's pretend your scenario was possible. Even if you "win", you can't collect, because you'll be a zombie. On the other hand, if there's no zombie apocalypes, you will lose and have to pay. Not a real smart proposition.

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Originally Posted by Kurt

Even if you "win", you can't collect, because you'll be a zombie.Not a real smart proposition.

I know what's getting ready to happen so I have an advantage over the doubters.
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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

Let's bet some worthless shiny stuff instead?

BTW, your offer for a bet is one of the dumbest I've ever seen, on so many levels.

Let's pretend your scenario was possible. Even if you "win", you can't collect, because you'll be a zombie. On the other hand, if there's no zombie apocalypes, you will lose and have to pay. Not a real smart proposition.

It certainly is Kurt. He's seen World War Z. I also watch the documentary 'The Walking Dead' and Rick is real. Look here he was as an actor, before he became a local police Sheriff then the apocalypse happened in America.

You're lucky you're living where you are Kurt.

The good thing is I also saw the night before Christmas last night so there will always be Santa as he can fly above the zombies in a sleigh and drop off presents for children.

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Richard Van 9 years ago

Also, if his friend thinks it's true that's further ground breaking evidence.

I have friend called George and he doesn't believe it.

What do we do now?
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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Richard Van

It certainly is Kurt. He's seen World War Z. I also watch the documentary 'The Walking Dead' and Rick is real. Look here he was as an actor, before he became a local police Sheriff then the apocalypse happened in America.

You're lucky you're living where you are Kurt.

The good thing is I also saw the night before Christmas last night so there will always be Santa as he can fly above the zombies in a sleigh and drop off presents for children.

But those aren't real zombies. Real zombies are created from voodoo spells to raise people from the dead, not from brain viruses.

Hold on, I got my mojo working, now I need to find my black cat bone.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

But those aren't real zombies. Real zombies are created from voodoo spells to raise people from the dead, not from brain viruses.

Hold on, I got my mojo working, now I need to find my black cat bone.

Oh yes. Good point.

So if it's in a film or on the TV are you saying it may not be true?

Are you trying to tell people like myself that Santa isn't real? I know the chap on the night before Christmas looked a bit like that Attenborough chap but pull the other one Kurt.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Richard Van

Oh yes. Good point.

So if it's in a film or on the TV are you saying it may not be true?

Are you trying to tell people like myself that Santa isn't real? I know the chap on the night before Christmas looked a bit like that Attenborough chap but pull the other one Kurt.

That is correct. However, since it's on the Internet too, it trumps movies and TV and becomes true. It's a double-negative kind of thing.

And when the zombie apocalypse happens and we're all hungry, I got dibbs on one of Santa's reindeer, plus an elf or two. Speaking of elves, what kind of wine goes with baked riffle?

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

Let's bet some worthless shiny stuff instead?

Gold never becomes worthless. Before 1971 the U.S. dollar was actually backed by gold. Now it's nothing but useless paper that the Federal Reserve keeps on printing up. The only reason why it hasn't collapsed yet is because of artificial demand. Just wait and see what happens when Russia pulls the plug on the dollar in 2 or 3 years. Everyone is going to trade in their paper for precious metals resulting in a global economic collapse. That will be the signal that the Zombie Apocalypse is near so run for your life before you become infected.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

Gold never becomes worthless. Before 1971 the U.S. dollar was actually backed by gold. Now it's nothing but useless paper that the Federal Reserve keeps on printing up. The only reason why it hasn't collapsed yet is because of artificial demand. Just wait and see what happens when Russia pulls the plug on the dollar in 2 or 3 years. Everyone is going to trade in their paper for precious metals resulting in a global economic collapse. That will be the signal that the Zombie Apocalypse is near so run for your life before you become infected.

Gold only had value historically and was used as currency in Europe and parts of Asia. For native American cultures, such as the Mayans, gold was only used for artistic purposes. The reason gold hasn't been "worthless" is because there has NEVER been a scenario as you claim will happen.

I tell you what, come up to where I live and we'll go on a "survival adventure" in the Rocky Mountains. You pack gold and I'll pack food, water, shelter and fire starters.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

I tell you what, come up to where I live and we'll go on a "survival adventure" in the Rocky Mountains. You pack gold and I'll pack food, water, shelter and fire starters.

Sounds like a getaway plan when the world falls apart. How high are the mountains there?

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

Sounds like a getaway plan when the world falls apart. How high are the mountains there?

More than 50 peaks over 14,000 feet. Be sure to bring plenty of gold because there isn't much food or shelter above 11,000 feet...Although since it's Colorado, you can get high pretty much everywhere.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

More than 50 peaks over 14,000 feet. Be sure to bring plenty of gold because there isn't much food or shelter above 11,000 feet...Although since it's Colorado, you can get high pretty much everywhere.

Or I can just bring a loaded gun with tons of ammunition. That will supply us with everything we need.

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gregdavidson727 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Richard Van

It must be real.

Greg just showed clips from some films.

It must be real.

By the way, the movie 28 Days Later takes place in England so you may want to keep a close eye on your neighbors.
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9 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

I have absolutely no doubt that they do exist.

I knew it! You have found a new home here.

Does brain damage also count as making you a Zombie? Because if it does, you have really hit the Mother Lode in the Off Topic Forum.

By the way, if you want to make a couple of quick friends here, mention that you think Monsanto is who created the apocalyptic Zombie virus, and that you think NASA has been keeping all this from us.

Tonight, the show...I mean documentary Walking Dead is going to be on. I'm going to watch it in a pillow fort.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

I knew it! You have found a new home here.

Does brain damage also count as making you a Zombie? Because if it does, you have really hit the Mother Lode in the Off Topic Forum.

By the way, if you want to make a couple of quick friends here, mention that you think Monsanto is who created the apocalyptic Zombie virus, and that you think NASA has been keeping all this from us.

Tonight, the show...I mean documentary Walking Dead is going to be on. I'm going to watch it in a pillow fort.

Again, welcome to the jungle.

I'm surprised you didn't respond with just....

... We know.

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Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

Does brain damage also count as making you a Zombie?.

Look up "the brain of a serial killer".
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Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

Tonight, the show...I mean documentary Walking Dead is going to be on.

Great! You should know what to do when worse comes to worst. Meanwhile, I'm going to be reading The Zombie Survival Guide by Max Brooks.
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10 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

I actually read the ingredients on the side of the box. More, and more, I'm putting the box (or can) back.

Unless it's corn, grown from Monsanto kernels. I want Super Powers. It's Monsanto, or radioactive waste....something is going to make me glow in the dark.

The "Two scoops of raisins" in every box of raisin bran? I measured....that's pre-dehydration volume....so it's really "two scoops of grapes"

And that's the way they get you.

Oh jeez - No, not Monsanto for "glow in the dark". Monsanto allows you to produce kids that are only similar to human or to sport frightening and disfiguring tumors.

To glow in the dark you have to eat fish caught near the fukashima melt down site. Now see - if you were more specific about your intentions, we'd be of way more help to you.

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

Those *******s at Monsanto.
Is the company truly evil, or just everyone that works there?

To answer your earlier question (still catching up on this thread today) I think Monsanto is evil in the sense that they are so greedy (and sadly, so powerful, thanks to deep pockets and strong political connections) that those at the top don't care about the extensive damage their company's products are causing in the world. Whenever the almighty dollar means more than anything - and in spite of the long-term consequences - then corruption is inevitable.

So, is Monsanto evil in the truest sense? I don't know. Corrupt, dishonest, and completely lacking integrity? Absolutely.

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by Cali16

To answer your earlier question (still catching up on this thread today) I think Monsanto is evil in the sense that they are so greedy (and sadly, so powerful, thanks to deep pockets and strong political connections) that those at the top don't care about the extensive damage their company's products are causing in the world. Whenever the almighty dollar means more than anything - and in spite of the long-term consequences - then corruption is inevitable.

So, is Monsanto evil in the truest sense? I don't know. Corrupt, dishonest, and completely lacking integrity? Absolutely.

Monsanto knows it's products are poisoning people, the environment, and killing bees. They do it in order it to own our food supply.

Monsanto knows it's GMO's migrate and infest the crops of farmers who don't want to use GMO seed -- then sues their farms right out from under them for "patent theft".

I'd call that evil in EVERY sense of the word.

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10 years ago

You people are getting worked up over nothing.

As soon as we get Eugene to DC, this will all be over.

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Originally Posted by Jack Gordon

You people are getting worked up over nothing.

As soon as we get Eugene to DC, this will all be over.

Oh, you poor, deluded soul.
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10 years ago

Originally Posted by Jack Gordon

You people are getting worked up over nothing.

As soon as we get Eugene to DC, this will all be over.

OK, I admit...I have no idea who Eugene is. Please enlighten me.

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Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

OK, I admit...I have no idea who Eugene is. Please enlighten me.

Makes two of us Claude. Isn't he a city in Oregon?
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10 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

OK, I admit...I have no idea who Eugene is. Please enlighten me.

I thought you said you watch The Walking Dead.

Come on, Claude. You're better than this.

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Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

OK, I admit...I have no idea who Eugene is. Please enlighten me.

Originally Posted by ThomM

Makes two of us Claude. Isn't he a city in Oregon?

Originally Posted by Dan Riffle

I thought you said you watch The Walking Dead.

Come on, Claude. You're better than this.

All I know is, Pink Floyd wants him to be careful with an axe...
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10 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan Riffle

I thought you said you watch The Walking Dead.

Come on, Claude. You're better than this.

I didn't make the connection to the Walking Dead main lead.

I've disappointed you a few times, now. I can't take it.

I have a question for you, on suicide notes...should I start "To whom it may concern..." or "Dan Riffle drove me to this....."?

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

I didn't make the connection to the Walking Dead main lead.

I've disappointed you a few times, now. I can't take it.

I have a question for you, on suicide notes...should I start "To whom it may concern..." or "Dan Riffle drove me to this....."?

First of all, Eugene isn't the main lead. He's the weird guy with the sweet, sweet mullet.

Second, it probably wouldn't concern anyone, so start with "Dan Riffle...."

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan Riffle

First of all, Eugene isn't the main lead. He's the weirdly attractive guy with the sweet, sweet, sensuous mullet.

Second, it probably wouldn't concern anyone, so start with "Dan Riffle...."

Fixed it for you.

I've just decided not to start the note with "Dan Riffle'...

But to sign it "Dan Riffle".

I'm watching you, Mr. Riffle..Sir.

Added later; I've only watched the last 4 or 5 episodes. I have no idea who's name is who's. I keep bothering my wife to explain the continuity. And I'm always reading when it's on.

There! That's my quota of excuses today.

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

I have a question for you, on suicide notes...

Suicide notes? If you need more than one, you would probably be better off posting in the Reincarnation thread.

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lanfear63 10 years ago

Completely unrelated. My wife just called, she took our Prius A 2012 hybrid (beautiful quiet futuristic looking car) through a carwash at a Shell garage. Instead of washing it, it took her all the way through and began drying it. When that finished she thought it had finished what it was doing (although no wash) and had released her from it's holding.

She hit the brake and it catapulted her backwards into the carwash, like a rubber band slingshot. It smashed the back window and damaged the moulded spoiler.

Still there waiting for someone from the garage ownership to come and let her know what they are going to do about it. will need some bodywork done. she has insurance and it's lease purchase.

This was not a suicide attempt. Just one of those bizzare incidents that sometimes befalls you.

I'm just glad I was not driving. She would of never had believed me. then there would have been a homicide.

Update, Needs a totally new back hatch. That will take a couple of weeks to come and be fitted, needs painting as well. Sigh
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10 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

Suicide notes? If you need more than one, you would probably be better off posting in the Reincarnation thread.

I'm printing 1,000 copies. Not because of reincarnation...that's just stupid..... But because of the army of Super Clones I'm working on. If they don't conquer the world for me...I can always sell them as bacon.

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

I'm printing 1,000 copies. Not because of reincarnation...that's just stupid..... But because of the army of Super Clones I'm working on. If they don't conquer the world for me...I can always sell them as bacon.

Why didn't you say so in the first place? In that case, you start all 1000 with, "Good-bye cruel world! I bequeath all my stuff to Kurt."

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Originally Posted by Kurt

Why didn't you say so in the first place? In that case, you start all 1000 with, "Good-bye cruel world! I bequeath all my stuff to Kurt."

And just what exactly are you going to do with a warehouse full of vacuum cleaners and nude photos of Dan Riffle?

On second thoughts, I don't want to know.
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10 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

I didn't make the connection to the Walking Dead main lead.

I've disappointed you a few times, now. I can't take it.

I have a question for you, on suicide notes...should I start "To whom it may concern..." or "Dan Riffle drove me to this....."?

Riffle drove you to it. In an IROC. Wearing a mullet.

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Originally Posted by Dan Riffle

I thought you said you watch The Walking Dead.

Come on, Claude. You're better than this.

The Miami attacker who ate that guy's face off was also named Eugene, only it was his last name instead of his first.
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Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

OK, I admit...I have no idea who Eugene is. Please enlighten me.

Frankly, Claude, I'm shocked. You of all people.

Plus, I would have sworn you two were related.
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10 years ago

When I listen to my neighbors talk about politics I feel like the zombies apocalypse has already started and they've been bitten.

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9 years ago

"I'm going to watch it in a pillow fort"

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9 years ago

If anybody here is open to bets, I'll bet you that there will be a real-life Zombie Apocalypse before 2019.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

If anybody here is open to bets, I'll bet you that there will be a real-life Zombie Apocalypse before 2019.

I'll take you up on that for a hundred grand.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by whateverpedia

I'll take you up on that for a hundred grand.

The bet needs to be in gold. I don't want useless paper.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

The bet needs to be in gold. I don't want useless paper.

OK, a hundred thousand Gold American Eagles then.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by whateverpedia

OK, a hundred thousand Gold American Eagles then.

How about an ounce of gold? When the economic collapse happens shortly before the Zombie Apocalypse, the price of gold will skyrocket. Do we have a deal?

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

How about an ounce of gold? When the economic collapse happens shortly before the Zombie Apocalypse, the price of gold will skyrocket. Do we have a deal?

OK. You're on.

A contract has been formed.

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Originally Posted by whateverpedia

OK. You're on.

A contract has been formed.

Perfect. I'll show up at your doorstep the day everything happens to collect payment. Have it ready for me the second I get there. I have very little patience for procrastinators, especially when there are hordes of zombies lurking on every corner.
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9 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

Somebody just told me that a company called Exxell BIO, Inc. has patented a "rabies based" Ebola vaccine. You can view the patent at the link below. I shared this with a friend of mine and he really believes that there's going to be a Zombie Apocalypse. If you watched the movie World War Z, you know that rabies is what sparked the pandemic.

https://www.federalregister.gov/arti...la-and-marburg

A "friend" of yours? <wink wink>

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

A "friend" of yours? <wink wink>

His name is Jonathan. I've known him since I was about 11 years old. Do you want his number so you two can have a long chat about the Zombie Apocalypse?

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Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

His name is Jonathan. I've known him since I was about 11 years old. Do you want his number so you two can have a long chat about the Zombie Apocalypse?

And your name is Greg and you believe in zombies too. I'll just talk to you since you're here.

But I'm sure "Jonathan" would appreciate you giving out his number to strangers on the Internet.
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9 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

His name is Jonathan. I've known him since I was about 11 years old.

So, about three weeks then.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by whateverpedia

So, about three weeks then.

Multiply that by 306.

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9 years ago

The thing is I could go on all day that Santa exists using exactly the evidence your coming up with and yet you wouldn't believe me. Not only that I could produce lots more evidence, like Christmas cards, films, cartoons and the night before Christmas and legions of children who fanatically believe it yet you wouldn't take me seriously.

Why?

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Richard Van

The thing is I could go on all day that Santa exists using exactly the evidence your coming up with and yet you wouldn't believe me. Not only that I could produce lots more evidence, like Christmas cards, films, cartoons and the night before Christmas and legions of children who fanatically believe it yet you wouldn't take me seriously.

Why?

Because there is no such thing as reindeer that have the natural ability to fly across the world in a few hours. But there is such thing as a voracious human being that is crazy enough to eat your face off. Multiply that by 6.5 billion and infect every single one of them with Ebola and you have a real-life Zombie Apocalypse. Do you believe me now?

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

But those aren't real zombies. Real zombies are created from voodoo spells to raise people from the dead, not from brain viruses.

Exactly. This phenomenon has been well documented over the years. For example:

White Zombie

The Serpent And the Rainbow

Godsmack - Voodoo

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Midnight Oil

Exactly. This phenomenon has been well documented over the years. For example:

White Zombie

The Serpent And the Rainbow

Godsmack - Voodoo

Those are "old school" zombies. Watch the newer movies like World War Z to get an update on what characteristics you must possess to be classified as one of the "undead".

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

Those are "old school" zombies. Watch the newer movies like World War Z to get an update on what characteristics you must possess to be classified as one of the "undead".

You're confusing true zombism with Hollywood zombism. Brad Pitt isn't a trustworthy documentarian and is known to take liberties with his interpretations of certain subject matters. Béla Lugosi, Wes Craven and Sully Erna have much more authority in this matter. Pitt and his wife both serve the government which consistently feeds the public with disinformation.

CDC - Blogs - Public Health Matters Blog - Preparedness 101: Zombie Apocalypse

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Midnight Oil

You're confusing true zombism with Hollywood zombism. Brad Pitt isn't a trustworthy documentarian and is known to take liberties with his interpretations of certain subject matters. Béla Lugosi, Wes Craven and Sully Erna have much more authority in this matter. Pitt and his wife both serve the government which consistently feeds the public with disinformation.

CDC - Blogs - Public Health Matters Blog – Preparedness 101: Zombie Apocalypse

It's not just World War Z. In the movies 28 Days Later, 28 Weeks Later, and all 6 Resident Evil movies, the zombie pandemic is sparked by a man-made virus.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

It's not just World War Z. In the movies 28 Days Later, 28 Weeks Later, and all 6 Resident Evil movies, the zombie pandemic is sparked by a man-made virus.

Greg. They are films.

Some watch films for entertainment, some see them as factual evidence.

We can't all be the same.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Richard Van

Greg. They are films.

Some watch films for entertainment, some see them as factual evidence.

We can't all be the same.

Is this a film? The attacker who ate this guys face off was basically a zombie. When police arrived at the scene and drew their weapons, the attacker turned around and growled at them. I believe this guy was infected with a modified human form of rabies.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

Is this a film? The attacker who ate this guys face off was basically a zombie. When police arrived at the scene and drew their weapons, the attacker turned around and growled at them.

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So any extremely violent person that bites is a Zombie?

What about Chikatilo? Dahmer and all those other serial killers that are also violent and often eat there victims?

Why are they called cannibals, not zombies?

Also Greg, it appears becoming a zombie isn't infectious, that's why the guy who he ate is alive and not a zombie. So how will you spread being a zombie to 6.5 billion, then go about giving them Ebola?

Greg, I don't care, you do. That's all that really matters. As I said before, jolly good luck prepping for it.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Richard Van

What about Chikatilo? Dahmer and all those other serial killers that are also violent and often eat there victims?

Those are serial killers that were sane enough to be tried in the court of law. The attacker in this instance obviously couldn't speak at all. His mind was completely gone. That makes him a zombie, not a cannibal. All cannibals can still speak.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

Those are serial killers that were sane enough to be tried in the court of law. The attacker in this instance obviously couldn't speak at all. His mind was completely gone. That makes him a zombie, not a cannibal. All cannibals can still speak.

Ok Greg, you must be right. I believe you.

No need to discuss anything further.

Naturally I'm still intrigued about the ability to infect most of the world with that guys 'Zombism' and then give them all Ebola though. You've not explained that yet.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Richard Van

I'm still intrigued about the ability to infect most of the world with that guys 'Zombism' and then give them all Ebola though. You've not explained that yet.

You combine a modified form of human rabies together with various filoviruses such as Ebola to create a single hybrid virus. Then you kill the hybrid virus and add it to the Ebola vaccine. Basically, the vaccine with the "dead virus" tricks your body into thinking you were already infected with Rabies, Ebola, Marburg Virus, etc. and survived which makes you immune to all of them. But like the Polio vaccine, a small percentage of the people who take the vaccine will end up contracting the man-made virus within the vaccine that's supposedly inactive.

Obviously, they need to rush out an Ebola vaccine soon to save the planet. The CDC estimates that 1.4 million people around the world will be infected with Ebola without a cure. So the creators of this vaccine will claim that the zombie pandemic is nothing more than a freak accident. It wasn't their fault because they were under enormous pressure to rush the vaccine out the door and simply didn't have enough time to test it like you normally would.

Most vaccines are tested for over 10 years before they get to market. This Ebola vaccine is going to be rushed out the door in as little as a few months.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...reak-zone.html

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9 years ago

Well Greg, if I was the trillionaire behind this, you'd be top of my list to silence. Especially spreading his evil plans around the web.

By the way, I'd sooner believe a film than anything the Daily Mail puts out.

Many thanks for explaining all this to me though.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Richard Van

Well Greg, if I was the trillionaire behind this, you'd be top of my list to silence. Especially spreading his evil plans around the web.

By the way, I'd sooner believe a film than anything the Daily Mail puts out.

Many thanks for explaining all this to me though.

Oh my God! I have a believer!

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Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

Oh my God! I have a believer!

I believe anything. I'm not well in the head though so you're still at zero really. Look at my avatar, that's me. Stark raving mad.

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  Originally Posted by Richard Van
  
  I believe anything. I'm not well in the head though so you're still at zero really.
  
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  I believe anything. I'm not well in the head though so you're still at zero really.
  
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  You're actually the SECOND person who "claims" to believe me. Two down and 999,998 left to go.
  
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  Originally Posted by gregdavidson727
  
  You're actually the SECOND person who "claims" to believe me. Two down and 999,998 left to go.
  
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  Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre
  
  Did the first one think that the zombie virus came from Mars? Just a hunch.
  
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  The new one says the same thing, it's just a bit more subtle.
  
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  I see you edited your post.
  
  The new one says the same thing, it's just a bit more subtle.
  
  Yup. The first version was a little meaner. And although this Zombie idea is silly, At least Greg isn't being mean.
  
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9 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

This Ebola vaccine is going to be rushed out the door in as little as a few months.

Ever stop to think that the reason it's being "rushed out the door" is because there's a growing emergency, and that we can't afford to wait ten years?

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by whateverpedia

Ever stop to think that the reason it's being "rushed out the door" is because there's a growing emergency, and that we can't afford to wait ten years?

Are you going to take the "untested" vaccine?

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

Are you going to take the "untested" vaccine?

Since there aren't any cases of ebola in Australia (yet), and I've never been to West Africa, nor do I come into contact with anyone that has, it's highly unlikely I'm going to be taking any vaccines, tested or not.

However, if it came to a serious choice between taking a vaccine and catching ebola, I'd take the vaccine.

If I die from the vaccine, well, it can't be any worse than dieing from ebola.

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9 years ago

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If I die from the vaccine, well, it can't be any worse than dieing from ebola.

What if you turn into a zombie?

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

What if you turn into a zombie?

I'll take my chances.

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9 years ago

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I'll take my chances.

Ask somebody to film your transformation from human to zombie and email it to me. I'm working on a new website where I document the Zombie Apocalypse from start to finish.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

Ask somebody to film your transformation from human to zombie and email it to me. I'm working on a new website where I document the Zombie Apocalypse from start to finish.

Ha. So the motive rears it's head.

Since ebola can, all on its own, kill up to 90% of an infected population -- why would they spend money to turn humans into deadly raving maniacs, when they are just as able to kill us off with virus, geoengineering, Monsanto/Dow/Syngenta?

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Originally Posted by HeySal

Since ebola can, all on its own, kill up to 90% of an infected population

Ebola has up to a 90% death rate. But it's not contagious enough to infect an entire population.
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Claude Whitacre

9 years ago

Originally Posted by whateverpedia

Since there aren't any cases of ebola in Australia (yet), and I've never been to West Africa, nor do I come into contact with anyone that has, it's highly unlikely I'm going to be taking any vaccines, tested or not.

However, if it came to a serious choice between taking a vaccine and catching ebola, I'd take the vaccine.

If I die from the vaccine, well, it can't be any worse than dieing from ebola.

And that's EXACTLY what Big Pharma wants you to believe.

There, someone had to say it.

About the zombies...

You need a large evil organization, that is trying to keep this zombie thing a secret...or your whole story falls apart. Monsanto will do, in a pinch. And if we can find a CEO named Lex Luthor, it helps.....but any evil organization will do. A few idea starters;

THRUSH
SPECTOR
The Illuminati
CHAOS
HYDRA
Monsanto
Dow
Syngenta
Miramax (they make the documentaries)
Doctor Evil
Shmirsh
Wal-Mart
NASA
Those sneeky guys in tech support.

I'll try to find a list of Trillionaires....but they are as rare as...well...zombies.

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whateverpedia

9 years ago

You left one name off of the list of evil entities:

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

THRUSH
SPECTOR
The Illuminati
CHAOS
HYDRA
Monsanto
Miramax (they make the documentaries)
Doctor Evil
Shmirsh
Wal-Mart
NASA
Those sneeky guys in tech support.
Dan Riffle

There, fixed it for you.

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gregdavidson727

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

NASA

If their zombie plan doesn't work out as planned, keep a lookout for a giant asteroid. It's the second cleanest way to depopulate the entire planet. NASA was working on something that allowed them to change the course of giant asteroids. About 2 years go, a smaller meteorite slammed into Russia without warning. Is there a connection?

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whateverpedia 9 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

Is there a connection?

No...................
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Claude Whitacre

9 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

If their zombie plan doesn't work out as planned, keep a lookout for a giant asteroid. It's the second cleanest way to depopulate the entire planet. NASA was working on something that allowed them to change the course of giant asteroids. About 2 years go, a smaller meteorite slammed into Russia without warning. Is there a connection?

I love it!

Greg. Be honest. Are you pulling our leg?

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Richard Van 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

I love it!

Greg. Be honest. Are you pulling our leg?

No he's not. Apparently the meteor is full of Zombies but the one they fired at Russia didn't because the lab technician forgot to put them in.

I mean think about it Claude. America says it can alter the course of a meteor. Not to save the planet but as Greg said, and I quote, "the second cleanest way to depopulate the entire planet".

No, wait a second....
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gregdavidson727

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

I love it!

Greg. Be honest. Are you pulling our leg?

I'm not pulling your leg. It sounds funny but this is dead serious. No pun intended.

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Richard Van

9 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

I'm not pulling your leg. It sounds funny but this is dead/deadly serious. No pun intended.

That was actually pretty funny. On another note you could probably quite easily pull his leg off if he was like the ones that are a little far gone in that Rick Grimes documentary.

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gregdavidson727

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Richard Van

That was actually pretty funny. On another note you could probably quite easily pull his leg off if he was like the ones that are a little far gone in that Rick Grimes documentary.

I need to find a place to hide. We are so screwed. Even my own family members think I'm going insane. That's why the global elites are going to depopulate the world in such a bizarre way. They know that NOBODY will believe it until it's too late.

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Claude Whitacre

9 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

I'm trying to do you people a favor. Don't you want to live in a FREE WORLD? You know what's going to happen after the "great culling of the herd" is over? The world you live in right now will come to an end. You might even have a chip planted in the back of your head that records your every thought. If you think something that they don't like, they'll simply erase part of your memory. That's what could happen if they succeed..

I'm very sorry. I truly thought you were joking. I won't pick on you anymore.

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gregdavidson727 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

I'm very sorry. I truly thought you were joking. I won't pick on you anymore.

You're not picking on me. You just think I'm joking.
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Cali16

9 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

Those are serial killers that were sane enough to be tried in the court of law. The attacker in this instance obviously couldn't speak at all. His mind was completely gone. That makes him a zombie, not a cannibal. All cannibals can still speak.

Greg, apparently you missed this part of the article you posted (about the "Miami cannibal"):

Sgt. Williams asked Poppo what Eugene was saying when he attacked him.

“’You, me, buddy, and nobody else here,’” Poppo recalled. “’I’m gonna – gonna kill you,’ Or something like that.”

“He just started to scream and was talking kind of funny talk for a while too,” Poppo said. “He must have been souped up on something.”

Guess he wasn't a zombie (by your definition) after all, as he could speak...

As for people who are likely to agree with your theories and prophecies, you'll probably find several here: https://www.zombiehunters.org/forum/

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gregdavidson727

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Cali16

Greg, apparently you missed this part of the article you posted (about the "Miami cannibal"):

Sgt. Williams asked Poppo what Eugene was saying when he attacked him.

“’You, me, buddy, and nobody else here,’” Poppo recalled. “’I’m gonna – gonna kill you,’ Or something like that.”

“He just started to scream and was talking kind of funny talk for a while too,” Poppo said. “He must have been souped up on something.”/[/url]

Thank you for pointing that out. But this guy was not any on any type of hard drugs like bath salts which doesn't explain why he was behaving in such a bizarre manner. Nobody simply loses his mind, strips all of his clothes off, approaches a random person on the streets and eats that person's face off for no obvious reason.

I believe the attacker was freshly-infected with the modified human rabies virus which will be in the upcoming Ebola vaccine.

In this BBC article, it states that the attacker "growled" at police when they approached him.

BBC News - Miami's 'growling cannibal' named as Rudy Eugene, 31

About 75% of the victim's face was reportedly missing.

'Nice man'
Cyclist Larry Vega said there was "blood all over the place" when he came across the horrific scene by MacArthur Causeway.

"I told him get off," Mr Vega told WSVN Fox 7. "The guy just kept eating the other guy away like ripping his skin."

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He said he alerted a police officer, who warned the attacker several times to back away from the victim.

"The guy just stood his head up like that with a piece of flesh in his mouth and growled," Mr Vega said.

This article by CNN clearly states that the only type of drug found in the attacker's system was marijuana. Many people don't even consider marijuana to be a drug.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/27/us/flo...nnibal-attack/

The naked Florida man who chewed off the face of another man last month in a zombie-like cannibal attack used marijuana but not "bath salts" as police had suspected, authorities said Wednesday

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Midnight Oil

9 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

But this guy was not any on any type of hard drugs like bath salts which doesn't explain why he was behaving in such a bizarre manner.

You don't know that. He had "a number of undigested pills in his stomach."

Causeway attacker had no human flesh in stomach | The Miami Herald

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

This article by CNN clearly states that the only type of drug found in the attacker's system was marijuana.

That he had undigested pills in his stomach proves otherwise.

That they haven't detected anything else does not prove an absence of anything else.

Broward Sheriff Al Lamberti is just one of the doubting Thomases who think the so-called "Causeway Cannibal" was on something not caught by either of the two labs that ran the toxicology tests.

"We are not testing for everything that may be out there," said Dr. Barry Logan, one of the nation's leading toxicologists.

That's because they can't.

Clandestine labs are using more than 100 chemical compounds to make synthetic marijuana, but even the most sophisticated lab can only test for 17, said Logan, director of Forensic and Toxicological Services at NMS Labs in Pennsylvania, the same lab hired by Miami-Dade County to help test Eugene for bath salts and synthetic marijuana.

Bath salts, also known as synthetic amphetamines, are also hard to track for the same reason.

There are hundreds of bath salt compounds out there, but toxicologists can only test for 40, Logan said.

Causeway Cannibal: Toxicology reports say Rudy Eugene was not on bath salts, but not everyone believes them - Sun Sentinel

Experts say there is no question Eugene's behavior was drug-induced - and not by marijuana. But it's hard to prove because even the most sophisticated labs cannot test for every compound.

"We are not incompetent," said Dr. Bruce Goldberger, professor and director of toxicology at the University of Florida. "We have the tools, we have the sophistication and know-how. But the field is evolving so rapidly it is hard for us to keep track. It's almost as if it is a race we can never win."

Goldberger thinks Eugene was on a drug far stronger than marijuana the day of the attack.

Causeway Cannibal: Toxicology reports say Rudy Eugene was not on bath salts, but not everyone believes them - Sun Sentinel

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gregdavidson727

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Midnight Oil

That he had undigested pills in his stomach proves otherwise.

If he did, in fact, have undigested pills in his stomach as this article states, those pills wouldn't have any effect whatsoever on his mindset because they haven't been digested yet. And can you name one type of pill that makes you behave like a real-life zombie?

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Midnight Oil

9 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

And can you name one type of pill that makes you behave like a real-life zombie?

I wouldn't know how a "real-life" zombie behaves, so I guess not.

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gregdavidson727

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Midnight Oil

I wouldn't know how a "real-life" zombie behaves, so I guess not.

Think of a crazed, animalistic person who feeds on human flesh. That's what this guy was before the police gunned him down.

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Midnight Oil

9 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

Think of a crazed, animalistic person who feeds on human flesh. That's what this guy was before the police gunned him down.

Except for the insignificant little fact that he didn't "feed" on human flesh?

autopsy shows there was no human flesh in his stomach.

Causeway attacker had no human flesh in stomach | The Miami Herald

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gregdavidson727

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Midnight Oil

Except for the insignificant little fact that he didn't "feed" on human flesh?

Good point. I guess that explains why all the zombies in the movie 28 Days Later were dead within 2 months. They bite your flesh off as though they're ready to ingest it but then spit it back out. If real zombies ate human flesh, they would be able to survive for years.

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ThomM

9 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

Good point. I guess that explains why all the zombies in the movie 28 Days Later were dead within 2 months. They bite your flesh off as though they're ready to ingest it but then spit it back out. If real zombies ate human flesh, they would be able to survive for years.

Do you think their digestive track is in good working order when the rest of their body is rotting flesh?
Do they have a heart beat and working circulatory system?
Those are two things I can think of off the top of my head that would be required for zombies to be able to eat anything and convert it into energy.

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gregdavidson727

9 years ago

Originally Posted by ThomM

Do you think their digestive track is in good working order when the rest of their body is rotting flesh?

I don't know if they're going to have rotting flesh. They may have breaks in their skin like this Ebola victim.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/...t_Photo_by.JPG

As you probably already know, external bleeding is an Ebola symptom. So if you combine Ebola with a human form of rabies, you will have a person who looks and behaves just like the zombies you see in your favorite movies. Only it won't be so entertaining when they're eating your face off.

http://a.abcnews.go.com/images/US/ht..._120612_wg.jpg

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ThomM

9 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

I don't know if they're going to have rotting flesh. They may have breaks in their skin like this Ebola victim.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/...t_Photo_by.JPG

As you probably already know, external bleeding is an Ebola symptom. So if you combine Ebola with a human form of rabies, you will have a person who looks and behaves just like the zombies you see in your favorite movies. Only it won't be so entertaining when they're eating your face off.

http://a.abcnews.go.com/images/US/ht..._120612_wg.jpg

No that wouldn't be entertaining. What I would do to stop them would be though.

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gregdavidson727

9 years ago

Originally Posted by ThomM

No that wouldn't be entertaining. What I would do to stop them would be though.

I plan on using a .22lr semi-automatic rifle. It's not going to blow any heads off but it will kill with the right placement shots. Plus, the ammo is far cheaper and I can carry thousands of rounds on me at a time.

My side arm will probably be the most expensive machete I can find. When you're hacking hundreds of undead on a daily basis, you need a quality machete that won't fall apart on you after just a few uses.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

I plan on using a .22lr semi-automatic rifle. It's not going to blow any heads off but it will kill with the right placement shots. Plus, the ammo is far cheaper and I can carry thousands of rounds on me at a time.

My side arm will probably be the most expensive machete I can find. When you're hacking hundreds of undead on a daily basis, you need a quality machete that won't fall apart on you after just a few uses.

AS I've mentioned before I'm a real bad shot with a gun (bow also). So for me it's a machete, pry bar, and my trusty sledgehammer handle for the main weaponry. Of course there's also my two hunting knives and butcher knives. Among others I have a 12" Cimeter that (like all my knives) is razor sharp.
One of my hunting knives that was made for me has a 6" blade and a 1/2 pound hunk of steel at the end of the handle.
Then there's my slingshot for just messin with them

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by ThomM

AS I've mentioned before I'm a real bad shot with a gun

A .22lr rifle has no recoil which means that a small child can shoot it. If you're a bad shot, a scope should do the trick. However, most of the zombies you take out will be within 50 feet. You should be able to take out your targets without missing. Just make sure to wear some good body armor. When you're battling the undead, you can't take your chances because they're pretty determined to take a bite out of you.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

A .22lr rifle has no recoil which means that a small child can shoot it. If you're a bad shot, a scope should do the trick. However, most of the zombies you take out will be within 50 feets. You should be able to take out your targets without missing. Just make sure to wear some good body armor. When you're battling the undead, you can't take your chances because they're pretty determined to take a bite out of you.

In the past I've owned rifles going from b.b guns and 22's to 50 cal. black powder and a few in between including 10ga., 12 ga., and 16 ga. shotguns and slug guns. As far as pistols I've owned or shot 22's, 32's, 48's, 45's, and 357's. I'm saying I'm a lousy shot based on plenty of experience across the board.
Now lets talk about this a little.

I plan on using a .22lr semi-automatic rifle. It's not going to blow any heads off but it will kill with the right placement shots. Plus, the ammo is far cheaper and I can carry thousands of rounds on me at a time.

DO you already have all that in place? What if you can't get that much ammo when you need it.
Now like I've said before I am pretty accurate with a slingshot. You can spend a couple bucks on a bag of marbles and have plenty of ammo.
Here's a comparison of the hitting force of a few handguns compared to a slingshot.

Can a slingshot hit harder than handguns? The...

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Kurt

9 years ago

Originally Posted by ThomM

In the past I've owned rifles going from b.b guns and 22's to 50 cal. black powder and a few in between including 10ga., 12 ga., and 16 ga. shotguns and slug guns. As far as pistols I've owned or shot 22's, 32's, 48's, 45's, and 357's. I'm saying I'm a lousy shot based on plenty of experience across the board.
Now lets talk about this a little.
DO you already have all that in place? What if you can't get that much ammo when you need it.
Now like I've said before I am pretty accurate with a slingshot. You can spend a couple bucks on a bag of marbles and have plenty of ammo.
Here's a comparison of the hitting force of a few handguns compared to a slingshot.
Can a slingshot hit harder than handguns? The Shootout. - YouTube

Check out the Pocket Shot:

Pocketshot Vs. Slingshot - YouTube

The Pocket Shot Test & Review - YouTube

Now if it can be equiped with a whisker bisquit to shoot arrows it would be even cooler....(Claude...keep your degenerate thoughts to yourself and quit giggling about "pocket shot" and "whisker bisquit".)

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ThomM

9 years ago

I like it Kurt. In fact I found their website and bookmarked it

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by ThomM

I like it Kurt. In fact I found their website and bookmarked it

I think I'll get one. It looks like it would be fun to mess around with.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

I think I'll get one. It looks like it would be fun to mess around with.

I was thinking the same thing. The whisker biscuit looks like it could work with the PocketShot, except I can't see how to attach it. Guess I'll need to get them both to figure it out, lol.
I'm already thinking you'd have to modify the arrow a little, like taking the nock off and rounding that end of the shaft.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by ThomM

I was thinking the same thing. The whisker biscuit looks like it could work with the PocketShot, except I can't see how to attach it. Guess I'll need to get them both to figure it out, lol.
I'm already thinking you'd have to modify the arrow a little, like taking the nock off and rounding that end of the shaft.

Duct tape.

I know the Pocket Shot has a screw on cap, maybe something can be threaded and screwed on like some PVC? Maybe somehow the whisker bisquit can be rigged so that it can be attached with a hose clamp? Is it possible to attach four wires to the whisker bisquit then use a 2-3 inch hose clamp to attach the wires to the Pocket Shot?

Good idea with the arrow. I'm thinking it also may need to be shortened, more of a dart than an arrow.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

Duct tape.

I know the Pocket Shot has a screw on cap, maybe something can be threaded and screwed on like some PVC? Maybe somehow the whisker bisquit can be rigged so that it can be attached with a hose clamp? Is it possible to attach four wires to the whisker bisquit then use a 2-3 inch hose clamp to attach the wires to the Pocket Shot?

Good idea with the arrow. I'm thinking it also may need to be shortened, more of a dart than an arrow.

I'd have to have them both in front of me to figure it out

I didn't think about shortening the arrow, but I think you're right.
Also the arrow weight needs to be considered.
Maybe starting with a crossbow arrow with a flat nock?
From the picture on this page it looks like a small ball could be placed in the PocketShot first. If the trajectory of both are the same then the ball would act like a one hit hammer on the arrow driving it further into the target. Crossbow Bolts / Arrows Guide - Shafts, Field Points, Broadheads,Grain

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by ThomM

In the past I've owned rifles going from b.b guns and 22's to 50 cal. black powder and a few in between including 10ga., 12 ga., and 16 ga. shotguns and slug guns. As far as pistols I've owned or shot 22's, 32's, 48's, 45's, and 357's. I'm saying I'm a lousy shot based on plenty of experience across the board.
Now lets talk about this a little.
DO you already have all that in place? What if you can't get that much ammo when you need it.
Now like I've said before I am pretty accurate with a slingshot. You can spend a couple bucks on a bag of marbles and have plenty of ammo.
Here's a comparison of the hitting force of a few handguns compared to a slingshot.
Can a slingshot hit harder than handguns? The Shootout. - YouTube

I question how effective a slingshot will be against a zombie. You have to remember that zombies feel no pain because the part of the brain that makes them feel pain has been shut off by the virus. Putting a huge dent in a zombie's skull isn't going to do anything, except maybe knock him over for a few seconds.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

I question how effective a slingshot will be against a zombie. You have to remember that zombies feel no pain because the part of the brain that makes them feel pain has been shut off by the virus. Putting a huge dent in a zombie's skull isn't going to do anything, except maybe knock him over for a few seconds.

Did you watch that video? That slingshot was hitting the target with more force then almost every handgun used even the .357.

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gregdavidson727

9 years ago

Originally Posted by ThomM

Did you watch that video? That slingshot was hitting the target with more force then almost every handgun used even the .357.

Even if a slingshot can kill a zombie, it's not going to be quick enough to take out dozens of zombies at a time. When the Zombie Apocalypse first starts, thousands of those things are going to come out of nowhere like a giant herd of crazed animals. You'll only have a few seconds to react. The only feasible weapon during the early stages of the Zombie Apocalypse is a semi-automatic rifle. Once the zombies run out of energy, you might be able to switch over to a slingshot to save some ammunition, but always have a side arm within reach in case you run into a giant horde of undead.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

Even if a slingshot can kill a zombie, it's not going to be quick enough to take out dozens of zombies at a time. When the Zombie Apocalypse first starts, thousands of those things are going to come out of nowhere like a giant herd of crazed animals. You'll only have a few seconds to react. The only feasible weapon during the early stages of the Zombie Apocalypse is a semi-automatic rifle. Once the zombies run out of energy, you might be able to switch over to a slingshot to save some ammunition, but always have a side arm within reach in case you run into a giant horde of undead.

You really don't understand the potential of slingshots, do you.

Full Auto: Gatling Slingshot Crossbow - YouTube

Can a Slingshot Kill a Zombie? (ft. Jörg Sprave)...

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gregdavidson727

9 years ago

Originally Posted by ThomM

You really don't understand the potential of slingshots, do you.
Full Auto: Gatling Slingshot Crossbow - YouTube

Can a Slingshot Kill a Zombie? (ft. Jörg Sprave) | ZOMBIE GO BOOM - YouTube

I understand the potential but it may be too slow. It takes about 3-5 seconds to kill a zombie with a regular slingshot. With a gun, you can kill a zombie in less than 1 second.

The 8 shot slingshot looks a little more efficient. But where can you buy those?

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Claude Whitacre

9 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

I question how effective a slingshot will be against a zombie.

Well, let me think...

An imaginary slingshot can be as powerful as you like. Just like Zombies can have any attribute you like.

So I would pick the imaginary slingshot over these real ones.

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gregdavidson727

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

Just like Zombies can have any attribute you like.

Claude, one of these days you're going to be standing out in your front yard and 5,000 rabid cannibals (zombies) are going to come running out of nowhere. What are you going to do when this happens? What if the virus they carry is airborne?

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Claude Whitacre

9 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

Claude, one of these days you're going to be standing out in your front yard and 5,000 rabid cannibals (zombies) are going to come running out of nowhere. What are you going to do when this happens? What if the virus they carry is airborne?

Then I'll die. And I'll be very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very surprised.

I'd be just as surprised if Superman flew down, and granted me three wishes. To me they are equally as likely.

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gregdavidson727

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

Then I'll die. And I'll be very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very surprised.

I'd be as surprised if Superman flew down, and granted me three wishes. To me they are equally as likely.

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ThomM

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

Well, let me think...

An imaginary slingshot can be as powerful as you like. Just like Zombies can have any attribute you like.

So I would pick the imaginary slingshot over these real ones.

Claude check out the slingshot channel on youtube where myself and Kurt have posted videos from.
A real slingshot can be as powerful as you like

I was watching a video earlier where a guy fitted a removable notch to his slingshot so it could shoot arrows. Then he went deer hunting with it and was getting clean kills at 100 ft. At 33 yards your in the black powder riffle range.

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Richard Van

9 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

Because there is no such thing as reindeer that have the natural ability to fly across the world in a few hours. But there is such thing as a voracious human being that is crazy enough to eat your face off. Multiply that by 6.5 billion and infect every single one of them with Ebola and you have a real-life Zombie Apocalypse. Do you believe me now?

Miami cannibal victim recounts brutal attack for first time - U.S. News

No, not even remotely. That's like me saying there is such thing as a comedian, times that by 6.5 million and infect them all with herpes and you'll have 6.5 million STD comedians. True but about as likely to happen as a reindeer flying.

You have 2 shreds of evidence. A guy in Miami that was loopy and a virus that Nigeria has already wiped out.

Explain how you'll multiply the face eater to 6.5 billion people, then give them Ebola and what exactly will happen to the 500 million left?

Ebola will kill most of the planet in your doomsday scenario and you're assuming it'll leave about 500 million. What you've failed to think about is that if you have all those people with Ebola also totally psychotic, those 500 million will be eaten.

I don't think you've thought this through but it's fun to theorize it all.

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Claude Whitacre

9 years ago

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

His name is Jonathan. I've known him since I was about 11 years old. Do you want his number so you two can have a long chat about the Zombie Apocalypse?

So....you've known him 3 years?

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

I know what's getting ready to happen so I have an advantage over the doubters.

We aren't doubters. We're adults.

Originally Posted by gregdavidson727

Sounds like a getaway plan when the world falls apart. How high are the mountains there?

Not as high as you are. (OK, I'm done with the snarky remarks. We don't make fun of others here, who have ideas equally inane)

OK, one more. I don't know which is loopier, believing in zombies, or believing in trillionaires.

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Fortunately for us, Chuck Norris' tears cure the zombie virus (and provide a lovely base for skin moisturizer). Unfortunately for us, nobody's figured out how to make Chuck cry. We MUST get the government working on this STAT!

You idiot! Chuck Norris's tears are what cause the Zombie virus. And all we need is to have a trillionaire pay him enough to make him cry. That's my theory, and....and....hungry...brains....BRAINS!

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Claude Whitacre 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

A "friend" of yours? <wink wink>

I was thinking the same thing.
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Dan Riffle

9 years ago

Fortunately for us, Chuck Norris' tears cure the zombie virus (and provide a lovely base for skin moisturizer). Unfortunately for us, nobody's figured out how to make Chuck cry. We MUST get the government working on this STAT!

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gregdavidson727

9 years ago

The super wealthy people who are behind this sinister conspiracy only need to infect a few thousand people with the zombie virus to get the pandemic started. Think of the "double a penny a day" concept. If you double a penny once every day, you'll be a millionaire within 26 days.

So basically, if you double a zombie everyday, you'll have 1,000,000 zombies in less than a month.

But if the virus is anything like the ones in the latest movies, the zombie population will double once every few minutes which means that this entire world will be infected in a matter of days.

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gregdavidson727

9 years ago

Here's something else I find very interesting. If you're into online gaming, you're probably familiar with a game called World Of Warcraft. It's basically a game where millions of players play different roles in a massive virtual world. In many ways, it simulates the real world we live in now.

Back in 2005, a video game glitch known as Corrupted Blood caused an "unintended" pandemic which killed off most of the lower-level players. The higher-level players were the ones who survived.

Corrupted Blood incident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The conditions and reactions of the event attracted the attention of epidemiologists for its implications of how human populations could react to a real-world epidemic.

About 3 years later, an intentional zombie plague was spread to promote the second World Of Warcraft expansion.

During one week of October 2008, a zombie plague was spread to promote the second World of Warcraft expansion, Wrath of the Lich King, before its release. Unlike Corrupted Blood, this plague was intentional and was dubbed by an authorized representative of Blizzard Entertainment as the "Great Zombie Plague of '08".[12]

I estimate that a real-life Zombie Apocalypse will occur shortly after Russia pulls the plug on the dollar in about 3 years. When the economy collapses, people will become completely helpless making it impossible for last minute preppers to stock up on crucial supplies such as ammunition.

Russia could ditch US dollar in 2-3 years ? head of Russia's #2 bank ? RT Business

What happened on World Of Warcraft is about to happen in real life. The people who are behind this sinister conspiracy used a "silly game" as a hidden means to study the effectiveness of the upcoming pandemic at depopulating the earth. It's too much of a coincidence to write it off as anything else.

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gregdavidson727

9 years ago

This video does a superb job at explaining what's really going on here...

THE EBOLA DECEPTION: Vaccine Agenda Fully Exposed...

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HeySal

9 years ago

I'm surprised that, since these things are going to be infected, that nobody is making any nice flame throwers for those of them that are in the open enough you won't be burning a forest or house down when you set them off.

Fire. Now THAT'S entertainment.

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gregdavidson727 9 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

Fire. Now THAT'S entertainment.

It's only entertainment if you didn't know the zombies in their former lives. I dread the thought of having to take out my former relatives, friends, neighbors and co-workers simply because they're infected with a virus that makes them lose their minds.
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Kurt

9 years ago

Here's Joerg with a sling shot with a whisker bisquit attached to create a "sling bow". It seems adding a whisker bisquit to a Pocket Shot could turn it into a "Pocket Bow Shot". The whisker bisquit and Pocket Shot are both round, so it appears they would be a good match.

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Kurt

9 years ago

At least we know if zombies eat Claude they aren't on a low fat diet.

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KelvinN

9 years ago

If you play the game Dead Rising 3 (I think thats what it's called) then you will know that everybody who decided to take the chip turned into a zombie.. this is also somewhat relevant to the RFID chip conspiracy. And also related to this post.

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gregdavidson727 9 years ago

Originally Posted by KelvinN

this is also somewhat relevant to the RFID chip conspiracy. And also related to this post.

This probably isn't going to happen until the Zombie Apocalypse is over. Injecting people with valuable RFID microchips before the zombie pandemic will be a waste of chips because most of those people aren't going to survive. Once the Zombie Apocalypse is over, they're probably going to force every survivor to take a zombie vaccine that makes them immune to the zombie virus. That vaccine will probably be the one that contains the RFID chip. Those who refuse to take the vaccine will be unable to join the rest of the "subhumans" in the New World Order.
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socialentry

Banned 9 years ago

Did you guys play Resident Evil 6.

That game has a missile that turn people into Zombies.

Resident Evil 6 Zombie Missile Attack in China!!...

Entertainment.....or EDUtainment... ?

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gregdavidson727 9 years ago

Originally Posted by socialentry

Entertainment.....or EDUtainment... ?

It's called "human programming". Why do you think the news keeps on mentioning the word "zombie"?
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socialentry

Banned 9 years ago

It might be that they are trying to mold public opinion toward a prospective anti-zombie unit in advance.

In the game the BSAA is a global military unit under the UN that has jurisdiction everywhere including the USA and the People's Republic of China.

IMO, it's a neat idea not only to fight zombies but also to establish peace on earth. We cannot let petty politics divide us as the UN represents all of humanity.

Espescially in the face of a threat like zombies.

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gregdavidson727 9 years ago

Originally Posted by socialentry

the UN represents all of humanity.

I wouldn't be too sure about that.
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Paul Myers 9 years ago

It might be that they are trying to mold public opinion toward a prospective anti-zombie unit in advance.

Way ahead of 'em...
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